fake z80 CPUs

[Alex Freed]

Another bunch of fakes:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/180916882049?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2648

The photo shows likely genuine parts, but I got the same crap as before.
In fact worse - they don't even run at 12 MHz as the other ones, but
only at 8 MHz. No more e-bay. I guess plan "C" is to wait the 4-5 weeks
from Zilog.

-Alex.

[osgeld]

would the Z8S18020PSG be compatible?

digikey has 90 of them

http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/Z8S18020PSG/269-4301-ND/928984

[A2CPM]

Hi!

On Mar 25, 10:00 pm, osgeld wrote:
> would the Z8S18020PSG be compatible?
> digikey has 90 of them

<--- snip --->

No. Pin count is too high.

Willi

[Gene Buckle]

To: Alex Freed
Alex wrote:
> From Newsgroup: comp.sys.apple2

Alex, have you tried Jameco or Unicorn Electronics?

g.

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[Alex Freed]

On 3/26/2013 9:58 AM, Gene Buckle wrote:
> Alex, have you tried Jameco

Jameco is always my first choice - it is a mile or two from my home.

>or Unicorn Electronics?

did you?

-Alex.

[Gene Buckle]

To: Alex Freed
Alex wrote:
> From Newsgroup: comp.sys.apple2
>

> On 3/26/2013 9:58 AM, Gene Buckle wrote:
>> Alex, have you tried Jameco
>
> Jameco is always my first choice - it is a mile or two from my home.
>

Ah, must be nice. :)

>>or Unicorn Electronics?
>
> did you?
>

That response makes _no_ sense at all.

[Alex Freed]

On 3/27/2013 7:20 AM, Gene Buckle wrote:
>>
>> did you?
>>
> That response makes _no_ sense at all.
>

It does to me. If you suggest I look in a certain place it would make
sense to first check it yourself. And not to suggest an on-line store
that has no CPUs of any kind at all.

-Alex.

[STYNX]

>
> that has no CPUs of any kind at all.

> -Alex.

http://www.unicornelectronics.com/IC/Z80.html
but not 20mhz ;-)
the Apple 1 Component-Kit is nice though

[Bill Garber]

"Gene Buckle" <gene....@bbs.retroarchive.org.remove-9ea-this> wrote
in message news:51530029.20662...@bbs.retroarchive.org...

> To: Alex Freed
> Alex wrote:
>> From Newsgroup: comp.sys.apple2
>>
>> On 3/26/2013 9:58 AM, Gene Buckle wrote:
>>> Alex, have you tried Jameco
>>
>> Jameco is always my first choice - it is a mile or two from my home.
>>
> Ah, must be nice. :)

Agreed. I always try Jameco first too, but the shipping on just a few
items can be atrocious.

>>>or Unicorn Electronics?
>>
>> did you?
>>
> That response makes _no_ sense at all.

Makes perfect sense... He is asking you if you tried looking for
the Z80 chips he needs on there. If you want to help, then help.

Bill Garber
http://www.sepa-electronics.com

[Raymond Wiker]

It does in fact have CPUs, even Z80s, but I could only find the 2, 4 and
6 MHz versions.

[Alex Freed]

On 3/27/2013 11:53 AM, Raymond Wiker wrote:>
> It does in fact have CPUs, even Z80s, but I could only find the 2, 4 and
> 6 MHz versions.
>

I'll meet you half way: apparently there is more than one "Unicorn
Electronics". When I entered this name into Google I got this:
http://unicornelex.com/

And they sure have no CPUs. So my reply was a bit harsher than it
should have been.

The good fallout is that I have learned about a new (to me) on-line store.

-Alex.

[Chuck Morris]

I have no way of knowing whether or not these are fakes, but are the ones at the following address (in theory) the correct ones?

http://tinyurl.com/bqvvqus

[Egan Ford]

On 3/27/13 3:27 PM, Chuck Morris wrote:
> I have no way of knowing whether or not these are fakes

There's a button on that URL--Ask a question. So ask them if they are
fake. :-)

[Chuck Morris]

Great idea! I'd better ask them if their answer to that question is truthful or not too while I'm at it. You can't be too cautious nowadays!

[Michael J. Mahon]

"Bill Garber" <will...@comcast.net> wrote:
> "Gene Buckle" <gene....@bbs.retroarchive.org.remove-9ea-this> wrote
> in message news:51530029.20662...@bbs.retroarchive.org...
>> To: Alex Freed
>> Alex wrote:
>>> From Newsgroup: comp.sys.apple2
>>>
>>> On 3/26/2013 9:58 AM, Gene Buckle wrote:
>>>> Alex, have you tried Jameco
>>>
>>> Jameco is always my first choice - it is a mile or two from my home.
>>>
>> Ah, must be nice. :)
>
> Agreed. I always try Jameco first too, but the shipping on just a few
> items can be atrocious.

They apparently have figured that out--for the next month or so they are
featuring free shipping. ;-)

-michael - NadaNet 3.1 and AppleCrate II: http://home.comcast.net/~mjmahon

[BLuRry]

What about these suppliers? Any luck?

http://www.cyclops-electronics.com/part_search.php?partNumber=Z84C0020PEC&utm_source=octopart&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=octopart

http://www.eurotech.co.uk/dynamic/detail.php?part1=Z84C0020PEC&man=ZILOG

-B

[Raymond Wiker]

I just checked Mouser, and they show the Z84C0020PEC as "obsolete", but
then indicate that there is a "ROHS Version available", linking to the
Z84C0020PEG. I'm not an expert on this by any means, but maybe you'd
have better luck looking for the latter?

[Scott Hemphill]

But if they're liars, they'll lie about that, too. So you have to ask
the question this way: "If I were to ask if they are fake, what would
your answer be?" :-)

Scott
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[Gene Buckle]

To: Alex Freed
Alex wrote:
> From Newsgroup: comp.sys.apple2
>

Don't be a dick.

First search result for "z80" on the Unicorn Electronics website:
http://198.170.117.30/IC/Z80.html
6502
http://198.170.117.30/IC/6500.html
6800
http://198.170.117.30/IC/6800.html
General products page
http://198.170.117.30/prod.htm

Yeah, not a CPU in sight.

[Mark]

Le 26/03/2013 02:29, Alex Freed a �crit :>

> Another bunch of fakes:
>
http://www.ebay.com/itm/180916882049?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2648

> The photo shows likely genuine parts, but I got the same crap as before.
> In fact worse - they don't even run at 12 MHz as the other ones, but
> only at 8 MHz. No more e-bay.

> -Alex.

If you need fake and not working components, a good address: UTSOURCE
http://stores.ebay.com/UTSOURCE-STORE
http://www.utsource.net/

Like most of the Chinese sellers, they sell counterfeit components.
If you are lucky, they work but not vey well.

Last month, I received:
- HD63C09EP(25pcs): All fake
- HD63C09P (10pcs): All fake
- MC6820 (1pc): fake

--

[Steven Hirsch]

On 04/02/2013 06:53 AM, Mark wrote:
> Le 26/03/2013 02:29, Alex Freed a �crit :>
> > Another bunch of fakes:
> >
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/180916882049?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2648
>
> > The photo shows likely genuine parts, but I got the same crap as before.
> > In fact worse - they don't even run at 12 MHz as the other ones, but
> > only at 8 MHz. No more e-bay.
> > -Alex.
>
> If you need fake and not working components, a good address: UTSOURCE
> http://stores.ebay.com/UTSOURCE-STORE
> http://www.utsource.net/
>
> Like most of the Chinese sellers, they sell counterfeit components.
> If you are lucky, they work but not vey well.

I would urge anyone having such experiences to complain loudly to eBay. And,
if that fails, US Customs Service (since they theoretically have an interest
in counterfeits).