_____
|[LD8]! 8-BIT SOUND & FURY : APPLE ][ AUDIO & MUSIC RESOURCES
| o. | +--------- http://8bitsoundandfury.ld8.org ---------+
!__!__! OLD APPLE WEB SERVER LIST http://www.ld8.org/servers
Wow!
It works!
Let's imagine how wonderful this could be with a hard drive on the IIe.
Guillaume.
Works for me on IE7 with XP. Sugestion since you want to run this on a
single Disk II, make a little program to clean up / compact the web
pages, remove leading spaces from each line, remove non-needed
elements (ie <!???>) etc. These aren't needed by the browser and every
little bit of savings help.
Bill H
One suggestion: add a picture of your IIe ;-)
antoine
> Works for me on IE7 with XP. Sugestion since you want to run this on a
> single Disk II, make a little program to clean up / compact the web
> pages, remove leading spaces from each line, remove non-needed
> elements (ie <!???>) etc. These aren't needed by the browser and every
> little bit of savings help.
That's a good idea... the server seems to be a bit finicky about tags and
attributes being uppercase, and there are problems with relative paths in
some browsers, so I'm still trying to figure out how to optimize things.
-s
Do you mean that any x86 - non-x86 PC machines use internet to connect
to Apple //e's web server through Uther card? Do Apple //e have an ability
to run web server 24 hours a day? I am curious.
Bryan Parkoff
Would you expect them to only be able to run a web server 17 hours a day,
or some other number of hours?
Looks like one does! (Actually I don't have a browser running on my
non-"PC" machines right now).
> This is something I've wanted to do for a long time:
> http://www.ld8.org:6502
> It's a 64K IIe with a single Disk II running Contiki web server v 2.0,
> connected to the interweb via Uther.
> It's pretty finicky as far as connecting goes -- you might have to relaod
> a few times (some browsers don't work at all).
Works fine on my G5x2 Mac, running OS X 10.5.2 and Firefox 2.0.0.12.
I'd suggest sending the link to Slashdot but I don't think it could
handle the traffic. :-)
--
Joe Claffey | "In the end, everything is a gag."
india...@comcast.net | - Charlie Chaplin
> This is something I've wanted to do for a long time:
> http://www.ld8.org:6502
Awesome.
> Do Apple //e have an ability to run web server 24 hours a day? I am
> curious.
I'm curious too... I'm assuming that I'll get slash-dotted by the weekend,
which should give some indication of how much traffic it can handle.
-s
How would you be curious? If 6502 rules, I suppose that 6502 chip will
be built in cellular mobile phone with only 256 colors. Too bad for video
camera.
Bryan Parkoff
Way to go Simon! Works great with Firefox 2.0.0.12, Windows XP Pro.
Charlie
> In article <Pine.GSO.4.64.08...@halifax.chebucto.ns.ca>,
> "Simon D. Williams" <bb...@chebucto.ns.ca> wrote:
>
> > This is something I've wanted to do for a long time:
> > http://www.ld8.org:6502
> > It's a 64K IIe with a single Disk II running Contiki web server v 2.0,
> > connected to the interweb via Uther.
> > It's pretty finicky as far as connecting goes -- you might have to relaod
> > a few times (some browsers don't work at all).
>
> Works fine on my G5x2 Mac, running OS X 10.5.2 and Firefox 2.0.0.12.
> I'd suggest sending the link to Slashdot but I don't think it could
> handle the traffic. :-)
Safari 3.0.4 on a G5 running OS X 10.4.11 was pretty good here. A little
slow to finish loading, but I could see where I was fairly quickly and
ended up completely loading the page.
> Way to go Simon! Works great with Firefox 2.0.0.12, Windows XP Pro.
Did anyone have any issues connecting from outside? I got in the first
time I tried with no (significant) problems. It is getting busier. I
first got on at 48 views and now it's showing 80.
> Did anyone have any issues connecting from outside? I got in the first time
> I tried with no (significant) problems. It is getting busier. I first got
> on at 48 views and now it's showing 80.
I'm seeing a few failed connections, but it's actually holding up quite
well. I've added a 20K image of the server... that's giving it a bit more
of a workout ;-)
I couldn't get in at all this afternoon. Trying now, just spinning...
and so is the browser!
I first looked at 49, and it's now 113. Firefox 3 beta. Works every
time I try.
worked for me using xp pro with latest patches on an evo n800v 2gig compaq
laptop and a really lame 45.4bps connection via the built in 56k
modem...loaded in around i'd say 8 secs..cool
also should 128 hits when i log'd on
very nice....makes me long for the days when the 2 apple //gs were up via my
worldgroup 3.20 server accessable via serial cable/ from internet server
running tpro 4.2f rpg bbs and fv 4.0xev bbs pkgs...now does anyone want to
play with the fv/metal language script and make it accessable directly via a
uthernet card? ie eliminate the pc as the internet link? now that would be
cool... fv/metal bbs's running amuck on everyones ap2 emulation via cell
phone...yeah like i know what i'm talking about..anyway..neat trick
brad
former sysop lost gonzo bbs
Cool image! A bit low to download, but yes we can see the server with
its Apple IIc monitor? And a single drive.
Guillaume.
Hmm - I got nothing at home (Mac OS X Tiger, with Camino browser on
1.5mb DSL) or at work (Win XP, Firefox, on highspeed connection that
tests at 5.5mb download speed).
And I've been trying all day...
Wait a minute, just tried IE, and it worked. Any reason why Firefox
keeps timing out? IE pulled up immediately.
Mauro
>This is something I've wanted to do for a long time:
>http://www.ld8.org:6502
>It's a 64K IIe with a single Disk II running Contiki web server v 2.0,
>connected to the interweb via Uther.
I'm really happy to see the results of my work in action :-))
When you write 'v 2.0' I presume that you compiled the server yourself
from the Contiki 2.x sources. Did you download the 2.1 zip file or
grab the latest stuff via anonymous CVS access?
For optimal results you should use the CVS head revision from 1/1/08
or later. There I introduced 'high level config macros'. They are not
yet documented so check out the source. In example the web server can
now be built without UDP support and 'active connect' support thus
saving precious memory. So (at least currently) the web server with
file access should be build best using:
TARGET=apple2enh HTTPD-CFS=1 DEFINES=WITH_LOGGING,WITH_BOOST
If you have specific questions on build options or alike don't
hesitate to get in touch with me...
Best, Oliver
ol.sc wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:58:46 -0400, "Simon D. Williams"
> <bb...@chebucto.ns.ca> wrote:
>
>> This is something I've wanted to do for a long time:
>> http://www.ld8.org:6502
>> It's a 64K IIe with a single Disk II running Contiki web server v 2.0,
>> connected to the interweb via Uther.
>
> I'm really happy to see the results of my work in action :-))
>
> When you write 'v 2.0' I presume that you compiled the server yourself
> from the Contiki 2.x sources. Did you download the 2.1 zip file or
> grab the latest stuff via anonymous CVS access?
actually I sent Simon a build of an older 2.x cvs download (mid December
2007). The last few attempts at building the webserver have failed due I
think to the recent bug/issue you have run into with cc65. I haven't
spent any cycles trying to find a work around for the moment.
>
> For optimal results you should use the CVS head revision from 1/1/08
> or later. There I introduced 'high level config macros'. They are not
> yet documented so check out the source. In example the web server can
> now be built without UDP support and 'active connect' support thus
> saving precious memory. So (at least currently) the web server with
> file access should be build best using:
>
> TARGET=apple2enh HTTPD-CFS=1 DEFINES=WITH_LOGGING,WITH_BOOST
Good to know .. if you have any suggestions to enable Contiki to build,
I can send Simon a new binary.
>
> If you have specific questions on build options or alike don't
> hesitate to get in touch with me...
>
> Best, Oliver
> --- Synchronet 3.14a-Win32 NewsLink 1.85
Glenn
> I'm really happy to see the results of my work in action :-))
> When you write 'v 2.0' I presume that you compiled the server yourself
> from the Contiki 2.x sources. Did you download the 2.1 zip file or
> grab the latest stuff via anonymous CVS access?
No, I'm not that clever... I got Glenn Jones to compile it for me ;-)
Thanksgo to both yourself and Glenn for making this possible... where do
I send bug reports?
-s>
Why not? Mine used to run 24/7 as a BBS. I have one that runs that way now
as a temperature controller. Why would a webserver be any different?
_/_
/ v \ Scott Alfter (remove the obvious to send mail)
(IIGS( http://alfter.us/ Top-posting!
\_^_/ rm -rf /bin/laden >What's the most annoying thing on Usenet?
> Hmm - I got nothing at home (Mac OS X Tiger, with Camino browser on
> 1.5mb DSL) or at work (Win XP, Firefox, on highspeed connection that
> tests at 5.5mb download speed).
I couldn't get Camino to connect either... wouldn't even show up as an
attempt on the server log. I also had problems with FireFox (in OS X),
but a lot of people have reported it working without a hitch.
> Wait a minute, just tried IE, and it worked. Any reason why Firefox
> keeps timing out? IE pulled up immediately.
Of all the browsers I've tested, IE 5.2.2 works best... very fast and
no connection problems.
-s
> In article <47ba2879$0$6135$4c36...@roadrunner.com>,
> Bryan Parkoff <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> Do Apple //e have an ability to run web server 24 hours a day?
>
> Why not? Mine used to run 24/7 as a BBS. I have one that runs that way now
> as a temperature controller. Why would a webserver be any different?
Indeed. With only a disk controller and Uther cards, it's unlikely to
overheat... not sure how much of a workout the Disk II can handle, but
something tells me it will keep up just fine.
Well, I was initially going to mention that you should make sure that port
6502 (great port# Simon :-) is open outbound on your router firewall (mine
wasn't), but if IE works through the same router that isn't the problem.
Charlie
And you deserve a big part of the credit.
Thank You for your work.
Charlie
Worked on the first shot with my Treo 650 running Blazer...hit count is now
up to 217.
Awesome. :-)
Ferdinand
Just a heads-up: Firefox 2 for Windows always times out trying to
connect. IE seems to work fine.
I've tried from several systems and three different networks, getting
the same response everywhere.
-Warr
Very strange! I have no trouble with either Firefox 2.0.0.12 or IE 6 on
Windows XP Pro and a DSL connection. The site begins to load (display in
the browser) in 2 or 3 seconds and is completely loaded in about 10 seconds.
Charlie
>
> actually I sent Simon a build of an older 2.x cvs download (mid December
> 2007). The last few attempts at building the webserver have failed due I
> think to the recent bug/issue you have run into with cc65. I haven't
> spent any cycles trying to find a work around for the moment.
>
Actually thats wrong - I sent him recent code up until it stopped
compiling with that error - my mistake I was using the disk images out
of the old directory and I got confused.
You can always try with AppleWin
;-)
Very cool. Working with Safari 3.1 beta.
Dave...
> Very strange! I have no trouble with either Firefox 2.0.0.12 or IE 6 on
> Windows XP Pro and a DSL connection. The site begins to load (display in
> the browser) in 2 or 3 seconds and is completely loaded in about 10 seconds.
>
> Charlie
>
>
> --- Synchronet 3.14a-Win32 NewsLink 1.85
It could be a squid proxy, or firewall or something else messing with
things. I had tons of troubles getting my tivo to talk through the
squid proxy while nothing else had any troubles at all. I can confirm
that Firefox 2 on XP has no significant issues through a linksys router.
Specifying the port with Contiki 1.x does not work - it just drops the
port override
Glenn
But then I'd have to buy a WIndows PC, which would probably cost more
than another Uther card ;-)
> Specifying the port with Contiki 1.x does not work - it just drops the
> port override
That's what I was afraid of... unfortunately I don't have the option
to use port 80 for this.
>Good to know .. if you have any suggestions to enable Contiki to build,
>I can send Simon a new binary.
Just to inform the others: Glenn and me are already working on
figuring this out via private messages...
Best, Oliver
>No, I'm not that clever... I got Glenn Jones to compile it for me ;-)
I see. Thanks Glenn !
>Thanksgo to both yourself and Glenn for making this possible...
You're welcome. We'll find a way to make sure you always get the
latest binary - if something significant changed.
>where do
>I send bug reports?
Good question, next question please ;-)
If you have an issue related to the Contiki core networking component
then you might send a message to the 'contiki-developers' mailing
list. But don't expect too much. Here's a pointer on how to subscribe:
http://www.sics.se/contiki/mailing-lists.html
If you have an issue related to the web server then you're most likely
out of luck. It is just an example created a long time ago as a
starting point for own developments. The original author isn't
maintaining it anymore. I noticed that there was code lying around for
serving files from the OS filesystem instead of builtin pages like the
Contiki 1.x web server does. So I made that filesystem code build
again and fixed some obvious bugs. Basically just enough to make the
owner of www.c64web.com acknowledge that it works for him.
Contiki 2.x is meant to be a framework for developing own applications
- or improving the existing ones. I'm providing that framework for
cc65 targets like the A2 and the C64. I'm not developing / maintaining
the applications. If there's someone out there willing/able to do so
I'm here to provide support on specific questions.
Best, Oliver
>> I'm really happy to see the results of my work in action :-))
>And you deserve a big part of the credit.
>Thank You for your work.
Thanks for the positive feedback :-)
Best, Oliver
Works fine for me with Swiftweasel 2.0.0.7 64-bit (Firefox fork) on x86_64
Kubuntu Linux.
>This is something I've wanted to do for a long time:
>http://www.ld8.org:6502
>It's a 64K IIe with a single Disk II running Contiki web server v 2.0,
>connected to the interweb via Uther.
>It's pretty finicky as far as connecting goes -- you might have to relaod
>a few times (some browsers don't work at all).
>Not much in the way of content yet... suggestions are welcomed.
>
> _____
>|[LD8]! 8-BIT SOUND & FURY : APPLE ][ AUDIO & MUSIC RESOURCES
>| o. | +--------- http://8bitsoundandfury.ld8.org ---------+
>!__!__! OLD APPLE WEB SERVER LIST http://www.ld8.org/servers
Any chance of getting a compiled binary posted online somewhere?
Thanks,
Chris Ryan
> You're welcome. We'll find a way to make sure you always get the
> latest binary - if something significant changed.
Now that's what I call support!
Glenn compiled a new version last night that increases the buffer size
and fixes the 404 problem. It now seems to be working with all browsers,
with far fewer connection issues.
It now works on machines that failed a few days ago, so I'd call it an
improvement.
I especially like the photo: it loads slowly enough that I can
practically hear the Disk ][ drive crunching away to serve it up.
-Warr
> Glenn compiled a new version last night that increases the buffer size
> and fixes the 404 problem. It now seems to be working with all browsers,
> with far fewer connection issues.
I concur - I was having trouble with Firefox .12 on Mac (Safari worked fine)
but now it's working too.
Now I feel like doing something stoopid and fun, like putting a special edition
of A2Central out, accessible to real Apple // machines with ethernet/tcpip.
Cool!
I can see the server more closer now (XPSP2/Firefox2.12) :-)
Jean-François
In a thread from 2007:
titled: Contiki 1.3 webserver?
I got the contiki 1.3 web server to work through Applewin + uther
emulation and served a page to the www....
(still looking for a java programmer to update Blurrys graphic
server :-)
Rich
Very cool, Simon!
-michael
NadaPong: Network game demo for Apple II computers!
Home page: http://members.aol.com/MJMahon/
"The wastebasket is our most important design
tool--and it's seriously underused."
>Any chance of getting a compiled binary posted online somewhere?
I could imagine very well one becoming available on
http://www.a2retrosystems.com/downloads.htm soon...
Best, Oliver
> On 18 fév, 23:37, Bill H <b...@ts1000.us> wrote:
>> On Feb 18, 5:05 pm, "Guillaume Tello" <houten....@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> "Simon D. Williams" <bb...@chebucto.ns.ca> a écrit dans le message de
> news:
>>> Pine.GSO.4.64.0802181749500.27...@halifax.chebucto.ns.ca...
>>
>>>> This is something I've wanted to do for a long time:
>>>> http://www.ld8.org:6502
>>>> It's a 64K IIe with a single Disk II running Contiki web server v 2.0,
>
>>>> connected to the interweb via Uther.
>>>> It's pretty finicky as far as connecting goes -- you might have to rel
> aod
>>>> a few times (some browsers don't work at all).
>>>> Not much in the way of content yet... suggestions are welcomed.
>>
> Works on Safari 3.0.4 also. It is really amazing!
>
> One suggestion: add a picture of your IIe ;-)
>
> antoine
The image at http://www.ld8.org:6502/server.jpg looks corrupted. Safari 3.0.4
(or is it QuickTime 7.4.1?) on Mac OS X Leopard has trouble decompressing it.
--tonza
> The image at http://www.ld8.org:6502/server.jpg looks corrupted. Safari 3.0.4
> (or is it QuickTime 7.4.1?) on Mac OS X Leopard has trouble decompressing it.
It is fine for me (also Safari 3.0.4, QuickTime 7.4.1, Mac OS X 10.5.2).
--
David Empson
dem...@actrix.gen.nz
On 2/22/08 6:32 AM, in article
1icqm0h.1g62e8b1kxmstiN%dem...@actrix.gen.nz, "David Empson"
<dem...@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> <Tony> wrote:
>
>> The image at http://www.ld8.org:6502/server.jpg looks corrupted. Safari
>> 3.0.4
>> (or is it QuickTime 7.4.1?) on Mac OS X Leopard has trouble decompressing it.
>
> It is fine for me (also Safari 3.0.4, QuickTime 7.4.1, Mac OS X 10.5.2).
Me too, Camino 1.5.4 on Mac OS X 10.4.11.
Although the background behind the computer is VERY interesting. Looks like
what I used to get when testing GIF decoders more than a dozen years ago
when I was having problems resizing for different screen widths...
Is that wallpaper? What is it?
> Although the background behind the computer is VERY interesting. Looks like
> what I used to get when testing GIF decoders more than a dozen years ago
> when I was having problems resizing for different screen widths...
>
> Is that wallpaper? What is it?
It's water tank insulation... basically bubble wrap with a layer of
aluminum foil on top. I had a 100' roll that I got free, so I stuck it
on the wall. Apart from keeping the room a bit warmer in the winter,
it also improves the acoustics of the room a bit.
> The image athttp://www.ld8.org:6502/server.jpglooks corrupted. Safari 3.0.4
> (or is it QuickTime 7.4.1?) on Mac OS X Leopard has trouble decompressing it.
I think it's just Safari... for me it loads the whole image, but stops
displaying after about 25%. If I hit reload it comes up fine. No
problems in Firefox though.
> Simon D. Williams wrote:
>> Can anyone test it with Contiki? The down-side of this project is that
>> it ties up my Uther card :(
>> --- Synchronet 3.14a-Win32 NewsLink 1.85
>
> Specifying the port with Contiki 1.x does not work - it just drops the
> port override
Glenn - I've tried to e-mail you but Dreamhost is bouncing.
mx2.balanced.randy.mail.dreamhost.com replied with:
"550 <in...@a2retrosystems.com>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in
virtual alias table"
instead of the expected reply:
"25* ..."
Sorry Sean, in...@a2retrosystems.com was not forwarded to my email
address .. all the others were though. I have fixed that now so it
should work.
Glenn
The exact same (to the pixel) corrupted image shows for me
under IE/Firefox Vista and Firefox Mac OS X.
Cheers,
Nick.