Some advice on a comms program sought
Jim
display screen for my FreeBSD box. It will be essentially showing
whatever is sent at the serial port, hence it's not acting as a terminal
but just a sort of serial screen. A glass printer if you will.
I'm waaaaay out of touch with how things worked on the Apple 2, so I
have some (hopefully simple) questions:
If I'm right, I can use a programme called ATDPro to transfer a disk
image from my PC to my Apple 2, and have it write it to disk. Is this
correct? If so, can anyone recommend a good (free) comms package? Must
be 80col compatible. The idea is I'll be able to boot off the disk and
go quickly into comms mode. As it stands I've got a DOS 3.3 disk and
that's about it, so I'm starting from scratch here.
With regards the 80col bit, you activate it normally with 'PR#3', yes?
If so, could I simply add that to the HELLO programme?
As I say, I'm essentially starting from scratch on the Apple 2, so I may
be getting stuff hilariously wrong.
Many thanks.
Jim
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Polymorph
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>
> If I'm right, I can use a programme called ATDPro to transfer a disk
> image from my PC to my Apple 2, and have it write it to disk. Is this
> correct? If so, can anyone recommend a good (free) comms package? Must
> be 80col compatible. The idea is I'll be able to boot off the disk and
> go quickly into comms mode. As it stands I've got a DOS 3.3 disk and
> that's about it, so I'm starting from scratch here.
You are correct about ADT. A newer version that includes many more
features and pretty comprehensive online help is ADTPro which can be
found here:
http://adtpro.sourceforge.net/
Two good free comms programs are Zlink and MMGR. They both support 80
columns out of the box IIRC - ie. no special configuration should be
necessary (you definately won't need to issue a PR#3). Both programs
can be downloaded from here:
http://www.apple2.org.za/mirrors/ground.icaen.uiowa.edu/useful.stuff/Disks/
> With regards the 80col bit, you activate it normally with 'PR#3', yes?
> If so, could I simply add that to the HELLO programme?
As I mentioned, you won't need to do this with either of the programs
I've recommended.
> As I say, I'm essentially starting from scratch on the Apple 2, so I may
> be getting stuff hilariously wrong.
You weren't hilariously wrong at all! Welcome to the Apple II
community. Are you a newbie, or returning after an extended hiatus?
> Many thanks.
No problem. :-)
cheers,
-p
Tristan Mumford
> On Sep 4, 7:05 am, j...@magrathea.plus.com (Jim) wrote:
>
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> Two good free comms programs are Zlink and MMGR. They both support 80
> columns out of the box IIRC - ie. no special configuration should be
> necessary (you definately won't need to issue a PR#3). [...]
>
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I've found ZLink to be a nice match the terminal program which I use in
Linux... Which I seem to have forgotten the name of again! It isn't minicom
though.
Anyway, I am curious about this. I just realised I have completely forgotten
how to fully divert the streams to different places. If you feel like
telling me what I can find out again go for it.
I'm sure I found it on a Palm oriented page though. Lots of info on using a
palm as a serial terminal in Linux out there. It translates directly to
other things too. Worth a look.
>> As I say, I'm essentially starting from scratch on the Apple 2, so I may
>> be getting stuff hilariously wrong.
>
> You weren't hilariously wrong at all! Welcome to the Apple II
> community. Are you a newbie, or returning after an extended hiatus?
Exactly! And how can we learn if we don't ask questions?
That's a Welcome from me too :)
Tristan.
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> Hi. I've decided to dust off one of my Apple 2s (a //e) and use it as a
> display screen for my FreeBSD box.
very thing:
http://www.dataswamp.net/apple2eserialterm/
Jim
> > As I say, I'm essentially starting from scratch on the Apple 2, so I may
> > be getting stuff hilariously wrong.
>
> You weren't hilariously wrong at all! Welcome to the Apple II
> community. Are you a newbie, or returning after an extended hiatus?
Thanks for the information. I'm effectively a newbie to the Apple II.
It's a machine I've always admired (for its part in the computer
revolution if nothing else) but as I'm UK based getting hold of one at
the time was prohibitively expensive.
Hence I started out on a TRS-80 Model 1 Level 2 (which I still have),
then an Acorn BBC Micro (ditto) [0] which in many ways was the UK's
answer to the Apple II.
I own three Apple II's - a ][europlus, a //e and what's probably another
//e except it doesn't say. The keyboard is the same however, and the
green power light has '65C02' on it. Last night I swapped boards around
in order to get one of them to have a serial card, a disk card and an
80col card. Beyond making sure this still worked (booting my DOS 3.3
disk) that's about as far as I went last night.
I know a _little_ about the operation of Apple IIs but nowhere near
enough - for instance I know that you type CATALOG in DOS3.3 to catalog
the disk in drive one, but I have no idea how you catalog drive 2 :-)
If there's an FAQ I should be reading first, please feel free to shout
me in the general direction.
Many thanks.
Jim
[0] I collect all sorts of old computer stuff. For instance, when
testing the FreeBSD server end of the serial link I used one of my Tandy
100 units.
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Jim
A very useful link, thank you. Although I'm not making a terminal (yet)
most of the info will be relevant, especially the bits to do with ADTPro
(and I agree, that looks like it seriously rocks - well done whoever you
are).
Jim
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Jim
> > You weren't hilariously wrong at all!
Oh, I will be - give me time...
> Welcome to the Apple II
> > community. Are you a newbie, or returning after an extended hiatus?
>
> Exactly! And how can we learn if we don't ask questions?
>
> That's a Welcome from me too :)
Thank you!
Jim
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Polymorph
> Polymorph <polymorp...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>
> If there's an FAQ I should be reading first, please feel free to shout
> me in the general direction.
>
The Apple II FAQ is pretty comprehensive:
http://home.swbell.net/rubywand/A2FAQs2CONTENT.html
Also, a good reference for DOS and ProDOS commands:
http://www.landsnail.com/a2ref4.htm
Hope this is of help to you.
cheers,
-p
Jim
> > If there's an FAQ I should be reading first, please feel free to shout
> > me in the general direction.
>
> The Apple II FAQ is pretty comprehensive:
> http://home.swbell.net/rubywand/A2FAQs2CONTENT.html
>
> Also, a good reference for DOS and ProDOS commands:
> http://www.landsnail.com/a2ref4.htm
>
> Hope this is of help to you.
Very useful, thank you.
Jim