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Michael J. Mahon  
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 More options Apr 13, 9:08 pm
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.programmer
From: "Michael J. Mahon" <mjma...@aol.com>
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:08:48 -0700
Local: Sun, Apr 13 2008 9:08 pm
Subject: Re: Streaming video over serial?

Joshua Bell wrote:
> And after much delay:

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAZHJa91JHk

> (I had the video recorded yesterday, but downsizing/uploading proved a
> problem so I had to re-record. At least this time I said "128 kilobytes"
> instead of "128 megabytes"!)

Way to go, Joshua--you get a prize for getting the rubber
to hit the road so fast!

 From this point on, it's all "incremental improvement"!  ;-)

-michael

NadaPong: Network game demo for Apple II computers!
Home page:  http://members.aol.com/MJMahon/

"The wastebasket is our most important design
tool--and it's seriously underused."


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Discussion subject changed to "vnIIc (Re: Streaming video over serial?)" by Joshua Bell
Joshua Bell  
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 More options Apr 24, 2:30 am
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From: "Joshua Bell" <inexorablet...@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:30:36 -0700
Local: Thurs, Apr 24 2008 2:30 am
Subject: vnIIc (Re: Streaming video over serial?)
It's up:

http://www.calormen.com/vnIIc/

Source coming soon.


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aiiad...@gmail.com  
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 More options Apr 24, 2:24 pm
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From: aiiad...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:24:23 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Apr 24 2008 2:24 pm
Subject: Re: vnIIc (Re: Streaming video over serial?)
On Apr 23, 11:30 pm, "Joshua Bell" <inexorablet...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> It's up:

> http://www.calormen.com/vnIIc/

> Source coming soon.

would be neat to see (on the IIc) the PC  running AppleWin

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Michael J. Mahon  
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 More options Apr 24, 4:08 pm
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From: "Michael J. Mahon" <mjma...@aol.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:08:00 -0700
Subject: Re: vnIIc (Re: Streaming video over serial?)

aiiad...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Apr 23, 11:30 pm, "Joshua Bell" <inexorablet...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>It's up:

>>http://www.calormen.com/vnIIc/

>>Source coming soon.

> would be neat to see (on the IIc) the PC  running AppleWin

THERE'S There's there's... TOO Too too... MUCH Much much...
ECHO Echo echo...
;-)

-michael

NadaPong: Network game demo for Apple II computers!
Home page:  http://members.aol.com/MJMahon/

"The wastebasket is our most important design
tool--and it's seriously underused."


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sfahey  
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 More options Apr 24, 5:26 pm
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From: "sfahey" <sfa...@a2central.com.remove-qbr-this>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:26:03 -0500
Local: Thurs, Apr 24 2008 5:26 pm
Subject: Re: vnIIc (Re: Streaming video over serial?)
  To: Michael J. Mahon
On 4/24/08 3:08 PM, in article -4adnQEfS985dY3VnZ2dnUVZ_hjin...@comcast.com,
"Michael J. Mahon" <mjma...@aol.com> wrote:

> THERE'S There's there's... TOO Too too... MUCH Much much...
> ECHO Echo echo...
> ;-)

Has anyone seen Stephen Heumann around? His site that hosted VNCViewGS is
offline. I was hoping he'd still be working on it.

The last version I know of is available from Syndicomm as part of their
telecom starter kit ... but the program is free, and I'll try to get a copy
from Sheppy to post to A2C.

http://www.a2central.com/portal/?p=790\
http://www.a2central.com/portal/?p=826
--- Synchronet 3.14a-Win32 NewsLink 1.85
A2Central.com - Your total source for Apple II computing.


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Michael Kent  
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 More options Apr 24, 10:31 pm
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From: Michael Kent <mich...@syndicomm.remove.this.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:31:56 +0000
Local: Thurs, Apr 24 2008 10:31 pm
Subject: Re: vnIIc (Re: Streaming video over serial?)
Michael J. Mahon <mjma...@aol.com> wrote:

> aiiad...@gmail.com wrote:
>> would be neat to see (on the IIc) the PC  running AppleWin

Only if you could run vnIIc on AppleWin!

> THERE'S There's there's... TOO Too too... MUCH Much much...
> ECHO Echo echo...

Kind of like putting your virtual memory on your RAMdisk.  :)

Mike

PS: Way cool program!


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Joshua Bell  
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 More options Apr 25, 2:22 am
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From: "Joshua Bell" <inexorablet...@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:22:19 -0700
Local: Fri, Apr 25 2008 2:22 am
Subject: Re: vnIIc (Re: Streaming video over serial?)
<aiiad...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:d9a32403-395e-42a7-a24c-6d2023a31fcd@u12g2000prd.googlegroups.com...

> would be neat to see (on the IIc) the PC  running AppleWin

Ask and ye shall receive:

http://calormen.com/vnIIc/images/ - scroll to the bottom. I'll make the site
more attractive at some point.

I chose Karateka since it has bold colors. I'm actually surprised (once
again) at how good it looks, particularly the castle image. I used a feature
of the server which lets you drag-select a portion of the desktop to
stream - basically, cropped it to just the AppleWin client area.

The last image on that page expands the screen capture to the whole desktop
so you can see - on the Apple display - the Windows desktop, including the
AppleWin window, the capture program, and the capture program's thumbnail of
the Windows desktop, including the AppleWin window, the capture program, and
the capture program's thumbnail of the Windows desktop, including the
AppleWin window... and I think you run out of pixels at that level of
recursion.


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Michael J. Mahon  
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 More options Apr 25, 4:20 pm
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From: "Michael J. Mahon" <mjma...@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:20:32 -0700
Local: Fri, Apr 25 2008 4:20 pm
Subject: Re: vnIIc (Re: Streaming video over serial?)

Actually, that would be a good way of using extended RAM for
a 64KB-capable processor...  Not as fast as bank-switching,
but infinitely versatile.

-michael

NadaPong: Network game demo for Apple II computers!
Home page:  http://members.aol.com/MJMahon/

"The wastebasket is our most important design
tool--and it's seriously underused."


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 More options Apr 25, 4:23 pm
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From: "Michael J. Mahon" <mjma...@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:23:24 -0700
Local: Fri, Apr 25 2008 4:23 pm
Subject: Re: vnIIc (Re: Streaming video over serial?)

Kind of makes you think that in full-screen mode, with the image
conversion algorithm mapping a pure Apple II screen to an Apple II
screen, it might even look *identical* to the native display...  ;-)

-michael

NadaPong: Network game demo for Apple II computers!
Home page:  http://members.aol.com/MJMahon/

"The wastebasket is our most important design
tool--and it's seriously underused."


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 More options Apr 26, 10:38 am
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From: aiiad...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 07:38:39 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Apr 26 2008 10:38 am
Subject: Re: vnIIc (Re: Streaming video over serial?)
On Apr 24, 1:08 pm, "Michael J. Mahon" <mjma...@aol.com> wrote:

> aiiad...@gmail.com wrote:
> > would be neat to see (on the IIc) the PC  running AppleWin

> THERE'S There's there's... TOO Too too... MUCH Much much...
> ECHO Echo echo...
> ;-)

That's the
point :-)  .   .    .   .   ..  . . . . . .... ..............................

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 More options Apr 26, 10:42 am
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From: aiiad...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 07:42:05 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: vnIIc (Re: Streaming video over serial?)
On Apr 25, 1:23 pm, "Michael J. Mahon" <mjma...@aol.com> wrote:

If only AppleWin would map apple II pixels directly to VGA pixels.....

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From: "Michael J. Mahon" <mjma...@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 10:20:00 -0700
Subject: Re: vnIIc (Re: Streaming video over serial?)