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mmphosis  
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From: mmphosis <mmpho...@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 22:54:56 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Dec 24 2011 1:54 am
Subject: RAINBOW: a "floating bus" example
 10 A = 9200
 20 B = 13136 + 32
 30 C = 100
 40  TEXT : HOME
 50
DATA173,87,192,173,83,192,173,84,192,173,80,192,208,251,173,86,192,160,22,1 36,208,253,234,173,87,192,76,9,3
 60  FOR I = 768 TO 796
 70  READ N: POKE I,N
 80  NEXT
 100  HGR : POKE  - 16302,0
 110  HCOLOR= 4
 120  HPLOT 0,0: CALL 62454
 130  HCOLOR= 2
 140  HPLOT 0,63 TO 279,63
 150  HPLOT 0,62 TO 279,62
 160  HCOLOR= 6
 170  HPLOT 0,61 TO 279,61
 180  HPLOT 0,60 TO 279,60
 190  HCOLOR= 1
 200  HPLOT 0,59 TO 279,59
 210  HPLOT 0,58 TO 279,58
 220  HCOLOR= 5
 230  HPLOT 0,55 TO 279,55
 240  HPLOT 0,54 TO 279,54
 250  HCOLOR= 0
 260  HPLOT 0,123 TO C,123
 261  HPLOT 0,122 TO C,122
 262  HPLOT 0,119 TO C,119
 263  HPLOT 0,118 TO C,118
 270  COLOR= 0
 280  FOR I = 0 TO 39
 290  VLIN 0,39 AT I
 300  NEXT
 310  COLOR= 13
 320  HLIN 0,39 AT 14
 330  FOR I = 0 TO 7
 340  POKE A + I,0
 345  POKE B + I,0
 350  NEXT
 360  COLOR= 1
 370  HLIN 0,39 AT 13
 380  VTAB 21
 390  PRINT  TAB( 16)"RAINBOW"
 400  PRINT : PRINT "MIXED GRAPHICS (HI-RES/COLOR)"
 500  CALL 768

 
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magnusfalkirk  
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From: magnusfalkirk <dean.pha...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 00:07:54 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Dec 24 2011 3:07 am
Subject: Re: RAINBOW: a "floating bus" example
On Dec 24, 12:54 am, mmphosis <mmpho...@yahoo.com> wrote:

I tried running this in Virtual II on my MacBook Air and got an error
"OUT OF DATA ERROR IN 70". I copied it from your post and pasted it
into Virtual II, so I know I couldn't have typed anything wrong. Any
ideas?

Dean


 
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From: BluPhoenyx <bluphoe...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 09:51:59 -0600
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Subject: Re: RAINBOW: a "floating bus" example
On 12/24/2011 02:07 AM, magnusfalkirk wrote:

> I tried running this in Virtual II on my MacBook Air and got an error
> "OUT OF DATA ERROR IN 70". I copied it from your post and pasted it
> into Virtual II, so I know I couldn't have typed anything wrong. Any
> ideas?

When I copied/(shift inserted) the text into Applewin the line 50 didn't
paste properly so the program had no DATA to work with.

Cheers,
Mike T


 
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From: Charlie <charlieD...@verEYEzon.net>
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 11:50:34 -0500
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Subject: Re: RAINBOW: a "floating bus" example
On 12/24/2011 10:51 AM, BluPhoenyx wrote:

> On 12/24/2011 02:07 AM, magnusfalkirk wrote:

>> I tried running this in Virtual II on my MacBook Air and got an error
>> "OUT OF DATA ERROR IN 70". I copied it from your post and pasted it
>> into Virtual II, so I know I couldn't have typed anything wrong. Any
>> ideas?

> When I copied/(shift inserted) the text into Applewin the line 50 didn't
> paste properly so the program had no DATA to work with.

> Cheers,
> Mike T

Before copying the text you need to move the DATA line so that it is
following the number 50 then it copies correctly into Applewin.

In Applewin I see horizontal stripes of the normal hires colors and they
occasionally blink.

Charlie


 
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From: mmphosis <mmpho...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 09:17:27 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Dec 24 2011 12:17 pm
Subject: Re: RAINBOW: a "floating bus" example

> Before copying the text you need to move the DATA line so that it is
> following the number 50 then it copies correctly into Applewin.

Yes, the line number 50 and the DATA need to all be on the same line.
Unfortunately, Google groups wants to word wrap code.

50DATA173,87,192,173,83,192,173,84,192,173,80,192,208,251,173,86,192,160,22 ,136,208,253,234,173,87,192,76,9,3

> In Applewin I see horizontal stripes of the normal hires colors and they
> occasionally blink.

Yes, this is the behavior in AppleWin.

On a real Apple II+, a rainbow is displayed.


 
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From: magnusfalkirk <dean.pha...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 20:48:43 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Dec 24 2011 11:48 pm
Subject: Re: RAINBOW: a "floating bus" example
On Dec 24, 11:17 am, mmphosis <mmpho...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > Before copying the text you need to move the DATA line so that it is
> > following the number 50 then it copies correctly into Applewin.

> Yes, the line number 50 and the DATA need to all be on the same line.
> Unfortunately, Google groups wants to word wrap code.

> 50DATA173,87,192,173,83,192,173,84,192,173,80,192,208,251,173,86,192,160,22 ,136,208,253,234,173,87,192,76,9,3

> > In Applewin I see horizontal stripes of the normal hires colors and they
> > occasionally blink.

> Yes, this is the behavior in AppleWin.

> On a real Apple II+, a rainbow is displayed.

After fixing line 50 I get the same thing in Virtual II that you got
in AppleWin. I guess I'll need to try it in a real II to see what it
really looks like.

Dean


 
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 More options Dec 25 2011, 12:15 am
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From: "Bill Garber" <willy4...@comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 00:15:43 -0500
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Subject: Re: RAINBOW: a "floating bus" example

"magnusfalkirk" <dean.pha...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:8f432809-c6f1-4ea7-8e38-bf1b62a44107@f15g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...

On Dec 24, 11:17 am, mmphosis <mmpho...@yahoo.com> wrote:

The correct syntax is:  50 DATA 173,87,...,76,9,3

I don't have Virtual II, or is that the online emulator?  

It works in AppleWIN.

Bill


 
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Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 22:40:18 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: RAINBOW: a "floating bus" example
On Dec 24, 11:15 pm, "Bill Garber" <willy4...@comcast.net> wrote:

Virtual II is an excellent Apple II emulator for the Macintosh, the
only thing it doesn't emulate is the GS. For that I use Sweet 16. The
web site you're thinking of is Virtual Apple 2.

 
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From: BLuRry <brendan.rob...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 21:10:39 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Dec 28 2011 12:10 am
Subject: Re: RAINBOW: a "floating bus" example
On Dec 24, 11:15 pm, "Bill Garber" <willy4...@comcast.net> wrote:

It looks mostly OK in my locally compiled version of kegs (xkegs) --
though I might have mistyped a couple of lines, I see a few black
stripes.  But the effect isn't lost at all.  Neat!

-Brendan


 
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 More options Dec 28 2011, 2:56 pm
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From: dog_...@macgui.com (D Finnigan)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 19:56:53 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: Re: RAINBOW: a "floating bus" example
I typed it in this morning. I found it interesting that when the Reset key
is held down, two of the color bars disappear. Presumably this is because it
causes the machine code program to stop.

I also disassembled the machine code to take a look at how it works. It
looks like it is waiting on a memory address to change ($C050, IIRC) before
taking further action.

--
]DF$
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Macintosh computing.
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From: Michael J. Mahon <mjma...@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 16:45:00 -0600
Subject: Re: RAINBOW: a "floating bus" example

D Finnigan <dog_...@macgui.com> wrote:
> I typed it in this morning. I found it interesting that when the Reset key
> is held down, two of the color bars disappear. Presumably this is because it
> causes the machine code program to stop.

> I also disassembled the machine code to take a look at how it works. It
> looks like it is waiting on a memory address to change ($C050, IIRC) before
> taking further action.

That reads the "floating bus" value--the byte last read by the video
refresh controlled by the video scanner.

Prior to the introduction of the VBL signal, this was the only way for the
processor to sense the state of the video scanner, and therefore to
synchronize with it.

-michael - NadaNet 3.1 and AppleCrate II: http://home.comcast.net/~mjmahon


 
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From: mmphosis <mmpho...@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 16:20:41 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Dec 28 2011 7:20 pm
Subject: Re: RAINBOW: a "floating bus" example
On Dec 28, 11:56 am, dog_...@macgui.com (D Finnigan) wrote:

> I typed it in this morning. I found it interesting that when the Reset key
> is held down, two of the color bars disappear. Presumably this is because it
> causes the machine code program to stop.

> I also disassembled the machine code to take a look at how it works. It
> looks like it is waiting on a memory address to change ($C050, IIRC) before
> taking further action.

> --
> ]DF$
> Mac GUI Vault - A source for retro Apple II and
> Macintosh computing.http://macgui.com/vault/

You got it!

Are you actually running it on "real" hardware?

I am pretty sure that anyone running this on an emulator, won't see
the same thing as on a real Apple II plus.  Although, I believe that
OpenEmulator is very close to making this work.

0300-   AD 57 C0    LDA   $C057
0303-   AD 53 C0    LDA   $C053
0306-   AD 54 C0    LDA   $C054
0309-   AD 50 C0    LDA   $C050 ; 4 cycles -- reads the "floating bus"
value--the byte last read by the video refresh controlled by the video
scanner.
030C-   D0 FB       BNE   $0309 ; 3 cycles if not $00, keep reading
the "floating bus" -- zeroes are strategically placed within the hi-
res screen
030E-   AD 56 C0    LDA   $C056 ; 4 cycles -- switch to lo-res
0311-   A0 16       LDY   #$16 ; 2 cycles -- Y = 22
0313-   88          DEY ; 2 cycles times 22 = 44 cycles
0314-   D0 FD       BNE   $0313 ; 3 cycles times 22 + 2 cycles = 68
cycles
0316-   EA          NOP ; 2 cycles -- 4 + 2 + 44 + 68 + 2 = 120
cycles, long enough to display horizontal lines of lo-res two pixels
high
0317-   AD 57 C0    LDA   $C057 ; switch to hi-res
031A-   4C 09 03    JMP   $0309 ; do it all over again

forgive me for the word wrap messing with the code


 
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 More options Dec 29 2011, 3:47 pm
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From: dog_...@macgui.com (D Finnigan)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 20:47:26 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Thurs, Dec 29 2011 3:47 pm
Subject: Re: RAINBOW: a "floating bus" example

Let me answer with a picture:

http://macgui.com/gallery/showphoto.php?pic_id=1519

> I am pretty sure that anyone running this on an emulator, won't see
> the same thing as on a real Apple II plus.  Although, I believe that
> OpenEmulator is very close to making this work.

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Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 01:06:35 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: RAINBOW: a "floating bus" example
On 29 déc, 21:47, dog_...@macgui.com (D Finnigan) wrote:

Just right now, DF$:
"Bandwidth Limit Exceeded

The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to the
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Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 09:37:35 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Jan 19 2012 12:37 pm
Subject: Re: RAINBOW: a "floating bus" example
On Dec 29 2011, 2:47 pm, dog_...@macgui.com (D Finnigan) wrote:

Is it supposed to look like this? (sorry for the horrible-looking URL)

https://5673158413791590328-a-1802744773732722657-s-sites.googlegroup...

I put this as one of the screenshots for JACE -->
https://sites.google.com/site/brendanrobert/projects/jace

-B


 
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From: dog_...@macgui.com (D Finnigan)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 20:50:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: RAINBOW: a "floating bus" example

BLuRry wrote:
> Is it supposed to look like this? (sorry for the horrible-looking URL)

Nay.

The machine code adds 2 extra bars in that middle black space.

If one holds the reset key (or Control-Reset, if you've got your switch that
way), the machine code halts, and the two bars disappear from the screen.

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Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 15:18:21 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Jan 19 2012 6:18 pm
Subject: Re: RAINBOW: a "floating bus" example
On Jan 19, 2:50 pm, dog_...@macgui.com (D Finnigan) wrote:

> BLuRry wrote:
> > Is it supposed to look like this? (sorry for the horrible-looking URL)

> Nay.

> The machine code adds 2 extra bars in that middle black space.

> If one holds the reset key (or Control-Reset, if you've got your switch that
> way), the machine code halts, and the two bars disappear from the screen.

> --
> ]DF$
> Mac GUI Vault - A source for retro Apple II and
> Macintosh computing.http://macgui.com/vault/

Hmmmm.... If I adjust my timing up or down it no longer holds still
and flickers a lot.  I know that my floating bus code is doing
*something* otherwise I wouldn't see it at all. :-D  Anyway, looks
like what I implemented is similar to what KEGS does.

 
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Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:09:18 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Fri, Jan 20 2012 2:09 pm
Subject: Re: RAINBOW: a "floating bus" example

KEGS? Even a real IIgs doesn't do the same thing as a real II Plus.

I saved the RAINBOW program on a 5.25" disk so I wouldn't have to type it
again. I loaded it on the IIgs. The results were... we shall say...
interesting.

On Fast speed (that's 2.8 MHz for me) there was quite a bit of screen
flickering. On normal speed, the flickering was less so, and was isolated
the right side of the screen.

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Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:53:15 -0800
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Subject: Re: RAINBOW: a "floating bus" example

Of course, being a cycle-counting program, it would have to run at
1MHz.

But does this mean that the vus structure of the IIgs does not allow
"bus sniffing" and "vapor lock" at all?

-michael

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Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 09:50:16 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: RAINBOW: a "floating bus" example
This is what I see with the Virtual ][ emulator:
http://i.imgur.com/L7iXj.jpg

The red and yellow lines of the rainbow were flickering off and on in
Virtual ][. The screenshot captured the rainbow when the red and
yellow lines were black.

Eric


 
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Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 18:17:43 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: Re: RAINBOW: a "floating bus" example

EricN wrote:

> The red and yellow lines of the rainbow were flickering off and on in
> Virtual ][. The screenshot captured the rainbow when the red and
> yellow lines were black.

Close, but no cigar. Every line of the rainbow should be solid with no
flicker.

 
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Subject: Re: RAINBOW: a "floating bus" example
I finally broke down and ran this on my IIe, and all I can say is:

ROY G. BIV !!!

Well, actually, more like ROY G. BI or maybe ROY G. BV, but it was
cool to see in HGR mode!


 
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Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 09:57:21 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: RAINBOW: a "floating bus" example
On 23 ene, 17:20, datawiz <rich.mar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I finally broke down and ran this on my IIe, and all I can say is:

> ROY G. BIV !!!

> Well, actually, more like ROY G. BI or maybe ROY G. BV, but it was
> cool to see in HGR mode!

So,

I've refactorized the timing component in OpenEmulator, and thinks
seem to be much nicer now :-).

http://openemulator.googlecode.com/files/rainbow.png

There is still a problem with two bars that flicker at the beginning
(I posted the worst case)... does that happen on an Apple II as well?

With the best wishes,

Marc.-


 
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Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 17:11:09 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Tues, Feb 7 2012 12:11 pm
Subject: Re: RAINBOW: a "floating bus" example

Marc S. Ressl wrote:

> http://openemulator.googlecode.com/files/rainbow.png

> There is still a problem with two bars that flicker at the beginning
> (I posted the worst case)... does that happen on an Apple II as well?

That is almost correct, but not quite.

Every bar of the rainbow should be of uniform length. There should not be
any flickering at all.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.programmer
From: "Marc S. Ressl" <mre...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 17:36:19 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Feb 7 2012 8:36 pm
Subject: Re: RAINBOW: a "floating bus" example
On 7 feb, 14:11, dog_...@macgui.com (D Finnigan) wrote:

Hello D Finnigan:

thanks a lot for your help! By "uniform length", do you mean that the
LORES lines do not have the same length as the HIRES lines, or
something else? Would it be a lot of trouble to post a picture of the
output on a real Apple II?

I emphasize this, because I feel this is an excellent test of the
timing emulation. It not only tests horizontal but also vertical
timing.

I must also confess that I still have to go into the code further to
fully understand what is going on :-).

With the best wishes,

Marc.-


 
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