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Cyril Thibout

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Apr 25, 2013, 4:55:53 AM4/25/13
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Hi

Do you know where I can buy an Apple IIe ethernet card please?

Thanks

cyril

Sean Fahey

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Apr 25, 2013, 10:30:33 AM4/25/13
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On Thursday, April 25, 2013 3:55:53 AM UTC-5, Cyril Thibout wrote:

> Do you know where I can buy an Apple IIe ethernet card please?

Are you talking about the actual, rare collectible and hard to find Apple-branded Ethernet card or an Uthernet or LANceGS card?

Jesse

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Apr 26, 2013, 12:29:37 AM4/26/13
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On 2013-04-25 14:30:33 +0000, Sean Fahey said:

> Are you talking about the actual, rare collectible and hard to find
> Apple-branded Ethernet card or an Uthernet or LANceGS card?

Apple never made an Ethernet card for the Apple II:
http://www.apple2.org/AIIEthernet.html

It certainly was in the works but was never sold.

Jesse

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Apr 26, 2013, 12:38:06 AM4/26/13
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I should have said they never produced a card for public consumption.
There were some made but these would be *nearly* impossible to obtain.

mrbrad

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Apr 26, 2013, 6:47:39 AM4/26/13
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one sold on ebay a few years back but with othe apple ii ethernet
cards out by then it was kinda expensive for just being a novelty so i
passed on it

a friend of mind saw a bunch of them used with permission by apple corp
at the i "think it was" washington apple pi" site back in the day all
we're used to interconnect with mac's and internet...but only heard of
any getting out in the wild from that past ebay auction. Anyway what I
know of the background

brad
former sysop lost gonzo bbs

Sean Fahey

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Apr 26, 2013, 9:23:01 AM4/26/13
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On Thursday, April 25, 2013 11:29:37 PM UTC-5, Jesse wrote:


> Apple never made an Ethernet card for the Apple II:
> http://www.apple2.org/AIIEthernet.html
>
> It certainly was in the works but was never sold.


I happen to own a couple of these Apple 'was never sold' Ethernet cards. The reason I asked Cyril for clarification was because I didn't know if he was looking for the collectible or the practical. He wasn't specific.

Sean Fahey

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Apr 26, 2013, 9:31:13 AM4/26/13
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On Thursday, April 25, 2013 11:38:06 PM UTC-5, Jesse wrote:

> I should have said they never produced a card for public consumption.
> There were some made but these would be *nearly* impossible to obtain.


A few of us have them - I know 2 or 3 people who have them in their collections. We even have the support software that was removed at the last minute from the GS/OS 6 golden master.

It's Appletalk over Ethernet, faster than the Apple Workstation cards, or the built-in IIGS port. As of right now, no link layer driver exists for Marinetti, but smart people are working on it right now.

Steven Hirsch

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Apr 26, 2013, 10:02:18 PM4/26/13
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Were these built with multi-layer PCBs? I wonder how practical a
reverse-engineering effort would be.


Sean Fahey

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Apr 26, 2013, 11:50:01 PM4/26/13
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On Friday, April 26, 2013 9:02:18 PM UTC-5, Steven Hirsch wrote:

> Were these built with multi-layer PCBs? I wonder how practical a
> reverse-engineering effort would be.

Funny you should ask... smart people are working on that too.

Cyril Thibout

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May 3, 2013, 3:38:11 AM5/3/13
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actually I'm looking for a practical ethernet card for the Apple IIe

I whish to developp some web based applications for the apple IIe (!)
I also whish to use ADT with a faster connexion than the RS232

This one may be ?
http://apple2info.net/index.php?title=Apple_II_Workstation_Card

thanks

cyril

Sean Fahey

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May 3, 2013, 10:15:16 AM5/3/13
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On Friday, May 3, 2013 2:38:11 AM UTC-5, Cyril Thibout wrote:

> This one may be ?
> http://apple2info.net/index.php?title=Apple_II_Workstation_Card


Uh, no... as of now, you're still looking for an Uther or a LANceGS, until a new option becomes available. There may be a LANceGS or two going on eBay in a few weeks.

iv...@ivanx.com

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May 4, 2013, 4:38:54 PM5/4/13
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It will be slowish, but you can at least get TCP/IP on a IIgs now if you have a classic Mac with Ethernet and run sustainable softworks ipnetrouter on it.

on the IIgs, configure Marinetti to use MacIP. I just tried this and it works, though the IIgs and any other LocalTalk machines will be on their own NAT subnet and unable to talk to machines on your Ethernet subnet.

There's a page somewhere on the web that explains how to set up ipnetrouter for MacIP, and I was able to find a demo of it on their FTP site because they no longer seem to sell or reference the OS 7/8/9 version.

D Finnigan

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May 4, 2013, 9:36:36 PM5/4/13
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These two pages may be useful:
http://macgui.com/downloads/?file_id=25358
http://macgui.com/usenet/search.php?q=ipnetrouter

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iv...@ivanx.com

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May 5, 2013, 7:16:38 PM5/5/13
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You could also use AppleWin which will emulate an Uthernet card. It also works in Parallels on a Mac if you used bridged networking to a wired (not wifi) interface. If you need a IIgs, you can use GSPort.
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