FS: on eBay, various Apple II cards
Toinet
I am selling 34 old Apple II cards on eBay, find them under my name:
antoine_vignau
antoine
Silicon Sam
If you can fit ANY of them cards in a //c, I'll be amazed.... You
need to research your stuff first...
A2Pro
The starting bids are a bit high. But the killer for me is the 24
Euro cost of shipping across the big pond. I did the currency
conversion calculation in my head, got $35. There MUST be cheaper
ways of getting something as small as an Apple II card across the
Atlantic.
Willi
Toinet
It is only marketing, bigger market if you include IIc.
antoine
Toinet
Hi Willi,
What is funny is that I am sure that it exists cheaper ways of getting
something as small as an Apple II card across the Atlantic... when
sent to France. Sometimes I do not bid on items because of the
shipping rates but only after asking about them.
Be curious, visit the French post rates. And you know, I am honest
with my shipping charges making no benefits from it, I offer those
options in my previous auctions and that can be applied for those. I
should have made that clearer as I previously did but I doube those
items interest non-French people.
Prices are here / column C / Tarifs nets zone D /
http://www.laposte.fr/content/download/3408/29832/file/affiche_colis_ok.pdf?espace=particulier
- Please don't tell me the USA are in zone C at a price of 22,10
euros, I know but I don't create an auction for you specifically. The
shipping charge is for a 1kg package, i combine multiple items in a
single package making the latter lower.
The second option, which can be offered (as well as insurance) is the
"colis économique international" option for 21,50 euros (zone D) or
16,90 euros (zone C)
The third option is to send a card not as a package but as a letter.
The issue here is safety/security/protection of the card itself. It
would be really lower priced but with absolutely no guarantee of
delivery.
And with today's exchange rate between USD and EUR, it is not
interesting for you to bid but interesting for me to buy in the US.
antoine
Silicon Sam
May as well add Mac and PC too, it's even bigger. Wait until
someone buys a card and complains it doesn't work on the //c. C'mon,
be honest with your stuff.
Toinet
Dear X,
That's correct I should have written IIgs instead of IIc or for any
slot-based Apple II but please open your eyes: who do you think
believes that stuff works in a IIc at the end of 2009 among the 99
Apple II users around the world? Do you really believe I cheated on
purpose to be dishonest? Just like your sarcasm, it does not hurt me
but disappoints me.
I don't complain when I buy an Apple II software that does not run on
the IIgs because of its protection scheme (e.g. false opcodes like
Sirius games), I am happy to own it which is, I believe, why people
will buy my cards.
Antoine
Mike Spurgeon
> On 22 nov, 01:02, Silicon Sam <silicon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 21, 7:40 am, Toinet <antoine.vig...@laposte.net> wrote:
>>> It is only marketing, bigger market if you include IIc.
>> May as well add Mac and PC too, it's even bigger. Wait until
>> someone buys a card and complains it doesn't work on the //c. C'mon,
>> be honest with your stuff.
> That's correct I should have written IIgs instead of IIc or for any
> slot-based Apple II but please open your eyes: who do you think
> believes that stuff works in a IIc at the end of 2009 among the 99
> Apple II users around the world? Do you really believe I cheated on
> purpose to be dishonest? Just like your sarcasm, it does not hurt me
> but disappoints me.
He said no such thing, and it has noithing to do with eyes open. If it
doesn't work on a IIc, don't include it the description.
Some buyers are idiots, but they would have a legitimate complaint...
Toinet
but, as the remark is also legitimate, I have just modified my items
description: "La carte est compatible avec les Apple II comportant des
ports d'extension (II, II+, IIe, IIgs) mais pas avec le IIc. The card
is compatible with slot-based Apple IIs (II, II+, IIe, IIgs) not with
the IIc."
I won't add such a remark when I sell my Apple IIe :-)
Antoine
KPR
Personally I don't know anyone desperate enough to pay $40 dollars
Canadian to ship a 3 x 6 package for that amount.. The last laptop I
got from China didn't even cost that amount to ship.
Michael J. Mahon
Perhaps it's a clever way to prevent the French from exporting
small items. ;-)
-michael
NadaNet and AppleCrate II: parallel computing for Apple II computers!
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Toinet
Thank you.
> Personally I don't know anyone desperate enough to pay $40 dollars
> Canadian to ship a 3 x 6 package for that amount.. The last laptop I
> got from China didn't even cost that amount to ship.
Shipping charges from China are cheaper than the ones from France or
from Canada (http://www.chine-informations.com/forum/chine-quels-sont-
les-tarifs-de-china-post_12337.html) thanks to the cost of living.
Let's make a fair comparison together:
- at a weight of 1kg because FR does not offer less
- at the exchange rate given by google.com ("1 EUR en CAD?" or "1 CAD
in EUR?")
Get Canadian rates & prices to France:
- Canada Post : http://www.canadapost.ca/tools/pg/prices/CPinter-e.asp
- select France: http://canadapost.ca/tools/pg/manual/pgIntDest-e.asp?letter=F
Get French rates & prices to international:
- La Poste: http://www.laposte.fr/content/download/3408/29832/file/affiche_colis_ok.pdf?espace=particulier
Now make a fair comparison between two similar countries:
- compare CA surface with FR colis économique international (last
column, zone C)
- compare CA air with FR colissimo international (third column, zone
C)
=> French rates are a little bit lower (very little bit lower) than
yours.
=> You have the advantage to offer more shipping options and by
default your insurance is good.
But that is only the financial part of the bidding. Will that prevent
people from buying from France? Maybe. I don't have the answer but I
believe that you have more sellers in North America with the same
items than in Europe. If the card is rare (or useful) then maybe
someone will buy it from me. If not, I will put it again online and
again and again :-)
Antoine
Michael J. Mahon
> On 23 nov, 14:43, KPR <kevin.ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Good luck with your action..
>>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>>Personally I don't know anyone desperate enough to pay $40 dollars
>>Canadian to ship a 3 x 6 package for that amount.. The last laptop I
>>got from China didn't even cost that amount to ship.
>
>
> Shipping charges from China are cheaper than the ones from France or
> from Canada (http://www.chine-informations.com/forum/chine-quels-sont-
> les-tarifs-de-china-post_12337.html) thanks to the cost of living.
>
> Let's make a fair comparison together:
> - at a weight of 1kg because FR does not offer less
*There* is the problem--1kg is a very heavy minimum package.
The vast majority of packages I send out weigh less than
half a kilogram.
Toinet
>
> *There* is the problem--1kg is a very heavy minimum package.
>
> The vast majority of packages I send out weigh less than
> half a kilogram.
>
> -michael
>
I 100% agree with you, this is the problem. Minimum weight has
increased while total dimensions of a package has decreased.
A way to make prices higher, increase margins, etc. If only letter
could offer security and item protection that would be perfect.
antoine
Michael J. Mahon
I note that the USPS's weight limit on international first class
(letters) is 3.5oz (which is the US way of saying 100g ;-), so that
option would only work for very light cards with light stiffening.
Toinet
Gotcha, you gave me the idea to compare rates between letters and
packages. French letter rates are here:
http://www.laposte.fr/content/download/2894/24966/file/Tarifs_au_depart_de_France_Metropolitaine_a_compter_du_2_mars_2009.pdf?espace=particulier
It allows shipping items from 0,2 kg to 3 kg. The basic rate is
unbeatable but he letter is not insured and does not offer a tracking
option. If you add the two previous options to the letter (which are
included in the package rates) then we have the final order: lowest
rate for "classe économique" (aka surface mail) then letter, then
normal package rate.
The remaining issue is the item protection. I believe the one who buys
is willing to pay that extra charge to have the item protected.
Oh, no! I'm wrong. The remaining issue is the exchange rate. 1 EUR for
1.5 USD, 1 EUR for 1.58 CAD and 1 EUR for 0,90 GBP. The world is crazy
and North America has a weak money which is good for your exportations
and good for my shopping as well :-) The prices seem high for you, I
understand it now.
I may limit my future auctions to the world but North America. I won't
get any buyers there.
antoine
a2retro
Just wanted to give a heads up to anyone still thinking about getting an
Uthernet card.
As of today I am down to my last 5 in this batch
Cheers
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