Nathan (NZ) is safe and well :)
Angus
Hi guys,
Just to say, those of you that remember Nathan Wain who used to post on
this group and generally be a cool guy (and still is) lives in
Christchurch, New Zealand and is alive and well as are his family.
Apparently the earthquake took place on the other side of the city.
Obviously not a happy time for New Zealand, and Christchurch in
particular but great to hear that Nathan and family are okay.
Hidehiko Ogata
Angus-san <angus@_ANTISPEM_angusm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Just to say, those of you that remember Nathan Wain who used to post on
> this group and generally be a cool guy (and still is) lives in
> Christchurch, New Zealand and is alive and well as are his family.
> Apparently the earthquake took place on the other side of the city.
Good to hear!
The 'quakes can be such a nuisance in the pan-Pacific area (which, of
course, Japan too is a part of). I hope things will get back to normal
soon.
--
// }{idehiko ()gata "I'm not like other people.
\X/ Amigan since '86 I can't stand pain.
It hurts me." - Daffy Duck
Seppo
This is great news indeed, many thanks for the information! :)
Seppo
Joachim Reiter
Well, great to know.
Best wishes and greetings to all the people from Christchurch and particular
surroundings
--
Greetings... Joachim
Angus
hide_no@spam_leaf.ocn.ne.jp says...
>
> In article <MPG.27dc2f045...@news.demon.co.uk>,
> Angus-san <angus@_ANTISPEM_angusm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >
> > Just to say, those of you that remember Nathan Wain who used to post on
> > this group and generally be a cool guy (and still is) lives in
> > Christchurch, New Zealand and is alive and well as are his family.
> > Apparently the earthquake took place on the other side of the city.
>
> Good to hear!
>
> The 'quakes can be such a nuisance in the pan-Pacific area (which, of
> course, Japan too is a part of). I hope things will get back to normal
> soon.
Hidehiko-San - very sorry to here that now Japan has been hit. I hope
you and your family and friends are safe. Let us know.
Hidehiko Ogata
Angus-san <angus@_ANTISPEM_angusm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Hidehiko-San - very sorry to here that now Japan has been hit. I hope
> you and your family and friends are safe. Let us know.
Many thanks for your sentiments, much appreciated. I'm okay, and
so are my family and friends... so far. We are still having numerous
aftershocks, so we are on the high alert yet. The biggest concern
as of now is the nuclear plant - they seem to be having a hard time
getting the cooling system back up, so the worst is feared, and now
the evacuation of the nearby resident has started. Fingers crossed.
As for me... well, I'm a bit ashamed to admit that, when the Big One
hit us, I WAS PLAYING BLOODY PINBALL! *^_^* The shock was 5+ on the
Richter scale in Tokyo, the biggest I've ever experienced in my life,
*and* enough to tilt the table (Mata Hari) by itself.
Going home was hell - the largest train company (JR) didn't even bother
to restart trains for the rest of the day, so there were tens of
thousands of people who lost any means to go back home. They had to
spend the night at nearby schools and city halls. Buses were running
all right - the road was jammed with cars shut out from highway, so it
took ~3 hours' ride rather than the normal .5 hours back home, yet
I felt darned lucky to be able to come home that night at all.
Oddly enough, nothing was toppled in my "cave", full of stacked
cardboard boxes, cd's, books and whatnot, as if nothing had happened.
It was kind of spooky.
But the news on the damage on the north-eastern Japan - I'm at a loss
of words. I can only pray for their souls.
Angus
hide_no@spam_leaf.ocn.ne.jp says...
>
> In article <MPG.27e48fb6a...@news.demon.co.uk>,
> Angus-san <angus@_ANTISPEM_angusm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Hidehiko-San - very sorry to here that now Japan has been hit. I hope
> > you and your family and friends are safe. Let us know.
>
> Many thanks for your sentiments, much appreciated. I'm okay, and
> so are my family and friends... so far.
Great news.
> We are still having numerous
> aftershocks, so we are on the high alert yet. The biggest concern
> as of now is the nuclear plant - they seem to be having a hard time
> getting the cooling system back up, so the worst is feared, and now
> the evacuation of the nearby resident has started. Fingers crossed.
The news here suggests that despite an explosion in one of the 4 reactor
buildings, it seems likely that the important steel containment part of
that reactor is undamaged. They _think._
I'm sorry, I should remember but I'm pretty awful with names - remind us
where you are in Japan, Hidehiko-San.
>
> As for me... well, I'm a bit ashamed to admit that, when the Big One
> hit us, I WAS PLAYING BLOODY PINBALL! *^_^* The shock was 5+ on the
> Richter scale in Tokyo, the biggest I've ever experienced in my life,
> *and* enough to tilt the table (Mata Hari) by itself.
>
I can't believe this! :)
There's a 7.9 quake and Hidehiko-San gets a "TILT!" :)
>
> Oddly enough, nothing was toppled in my "cave", full of stacked
> cardboard boxes, cd's, books and whatnot, as if nothing had happened.
> It was kind of spooky.
Weird.
>
> But the news on the damage on the north-eastern Japan - I'm at a loss
> of words. I can only pray for their souls.
Yes indeed.
Hidehiko Ogata
Angus-san <angus@_ANTISPEM_angusm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> The news here suggests that despite an explosion in one of the 4 reactor
> buildings, it seems likely that the important steel containment part of
> that reactor is undamaged. They _think._
Yeah, exactly. It seems that the tsunami's did far more damage than the
quake itself - all fuel tanks for the backup power supply for the cooling
system were washed away, rendering them useless.
Now they have started to pour sea water in there, as a last-ditch effort
to cool down the darned thing. Whoever is working there, making one
heroic effort for everyone, my heart is with you, guys.
> I'm sorry, I should remember but I'm pretty awful with names - remind us
> where you are in Japan, Hidehiko-San.
This page has a good map of the relative position between the epicenter
and Tokyo (where I am):
We are ~300km away from the epicenter, so we had it relatively "easy".
The nuclear plant is in Fukushima prefecture:
http://maps.google.com/maps?cid=17060867344567820820
> I can't believe this! :)
>
> There's a 7.9 quake and Hidehiko-San gets a "TILT!" :)
Yeah, we knew it was awfully tasteless, but my pinball pal and I couldn't
contain a little chuckle. I suppose a little sense of humor won't hurt
in a time like this *^_^*
Angus
hide_no@spam_leaf.ocn.ne.jp says...
>
> In article <MPG.27e56c76b...@news.demon.co.uk>,
> Angus-san <angus@_ANTISPEM_angusm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >
>
> Now they have started to pour sea water in there, as a last-ditch effort
> to cool down the darned thing. Whoever is working there, making one
> heroic effort for everyone, my heart is with you, guys.
>
Absolutely.
> > I'm sorry, I should remember but I'm pretty awful with names - remind us
> > where you are in Japan, Hidehiko-San.
>
> This page has a good map of the relative position between the epicenter
> and Tokyo (where I am):
Got it. Nathan says that some of the search and rescue teams from
Christchurch are on their way to Japan, as I believe is a team from the
UK, and I guess lots of other places too. Its made clear on the news
that Japan has great expertise in this field of course, and also
mentioned by some of the Brits in the area is how calm and orderly the
Japanese people are.
> >
> > There's a 7.9 quake and Hidehiko-San gets a "TILT!" :)
>
> Yeah, we knew it was awfully tasteless, but my pinball pal and I couldn't
> contain a little chuckle. I suppose a little sense of humor won't hurt
> in a time like this *^_^*
Completely agreed. You have to keep your sense of humour, that's no
disrespect to anybody.
Leo
.......................................
>
> Yeah, we knew it was awfully tasteless, but my pinball pal and I couldn't
> contain a little chuckle. I suppose a little sense of humor won't hurt
> in a time like this *^_^*
If you want some humor, then can you please check is this all really just a
natural disaster or it's caused by awaken Godzilla. All elements of Godzilla
attack are here, so please inform us.
Hidehiko Ogata
Angus-san <angus@_ANTISPEM_angusm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Nathan says that some of the search and rescue teams from
> Christchurch are on their way to Japan, as I believe is a team from the
> UK, and I guess lots of other places too.
My deepest gratitude for all the helping hands around the world!
However many terrible things there may be in the world, this is
heartily encouraging and inspiring.
> Its made clear on the news
> that Japan has great expertise in this field of course, and also
> mentioned by some of the Brits in the area is how calm and orderly the
> Japanese people are.
That is about to be put to the test - the controlled power outage will
commence as of Monday, ranging from 3 to 6 hours a day, *including*
nighttime in some area (mine too)... let's see if we can meet the high
standards! ;)
Hidehiko Ogata
"Leo" <leo...kulcar@inet...hr> wrote:
>
> If you want some humor, then can you please check is this all really just a
> natural disaster or it's caused by awaken Godzilla. All elements of Godzilla
> attack are here, so please inform us.
Too early for *that* kind of joke, dude! ;) With the nuke plant still on
the very, very thin line... (Godzilla *was* nuke-induced, you know.)
Leo
>>
>> If you want some humor, then can you please check is this all really just
>> a
>> natural disaster or it's caused by awaken Godzilla. All elements of
>> Godzilla
>> attack are here, so please inform us.
>
> Too early for *that* kind of joke, dude! ;) With the nuke plant still on
> the very, very thin line... (Godzilla *was* nuke-induced, you know.)
Now without a joke, only good thing in all this is, I think nobody on the
whole world is not more capable in dealing with such a serious situation
than Japanese. I know, thoughts like this still can't help much to the
people directly involved in this disaster, but it's better than nothing. I
wish you all the best and all the luck of the world and I hope nuclear
powerplants will be OK.
Hidehiko Ogata
"Leo" <leo...kulcar@inet...hr> wrote:
>
> Now without a joke, only good thing in all this is, I think nobody on the
> whole world is not more capable in dealing with such a serious situation
> than Japanese. I know, thoughts like this still can't help much to the
> people directly involved in this disaster, but it's better than nothing.
But it does help! The mere thought that there are someone out there who
care for us gives us hope. And who knows... some daring folks in the
disaster area seem to be tweeting away as the electricity tickles in, so
they might be reading your very words, right now.
Wonderful technology, this net thing is. :)
> I
> wish you all the best and all the luck of the world and I hope nuclear
> powerplants will be OK.
Many thanks for your kind words!
Angus
hide_no@spam_leaf.ocn.ne.jp says...
>
> In article <iljh3s$4u3$1...@sunce.iskon.hr>,
> "Leo" <leo...kulcar@inet...hr> wrote:
> >
> > Now without a joke, only good thing in all this is, I think nobody on the
> > whole world is not more capable in dealing with such a serious situation
> > than Japanese. I know, thoughts like this still can't help much to the
> > people directly involved in this disaster, but it's better than nothing.
>
> But it does help! The mere thought that there are someone out there who
> care for us gives us hope. And who knows... some daring folks in the
> disaster area seem to be tweeting away as the electricity tickles in, so
> they might be reading your very words, right now.
>
Hidehiko, how is it going? I gather the problems with cooling the
reators are worse than they thought last week. There's new stories about
helicopters trying to drop seawater on to the reactors, and efforts to
resupply power to the pumps - but how are you? Okay, I hope.
Best wishes to you and yours.
Hidehiko Ogata
Angus-san <angus@_ANTISPEM_angusm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Hidehiko, how is it going? I gather the problems with cooling the
> reators are worse than they thought last week. There's new stories about
> helicopters trying to drop seawater on to the reactors, and efforts to
> resupply power to the pumps - but how are you? Okay, I hope.
Well, not so bad (yet), but things are getting rather ugly.
I suppose you've already heard of TEPCO (Tokyo Electric Power Company)'s
total inability to handle the disaster situation? It seems that the
frustration and anger has started to affect many people.
Gas and groceries are getting ridiculously harder to pick up, *not*
because of their shortage, but because of some panic-strucken squirrels
who have started to stock up like mad. Toilet rolls seem to be a very,
very hot item now too... why it's always toilet rolls??? %-)
TEPCO's haphazard application of power outage isn't helping, either.
It may or may not come in effect, the schedule changes day by day, which
is announced late at night right on the day before - you just can't plan
anything ahead that way. And some stupid corporate head is now trying
to open the bloody baseball season at night, when commuter trains are
bending over backwards to acquire enough electricity!
But that's nothing compared to what those folks in the northeast are
suffering. They are having a rare heavy snow now, and some casualties
are reported among refugees due to the coldness :(((
In the middle of all this mess, Mt. Fuji has sneaked a 5+ quake on us
several days ago, so *it* may have some trick up its sleeve...
Well, on a lighter note, I was able to secure a replacement CD player.
I guess the old one has given up the ghost due to manic depression or
something 8). Even I need some music to cheer me up!
Leo
> Well, not so bad (yet), but things are getting rather ugly.
>
> I suppose you've already heard of TEPCO (Tokyo Electric Power Company)'s
> total inability to handle the disaster situation? It seems that the
> frustration and anger has started to affect many people.
>
> Gas and groceries are getting ridiculously harder to pick up, *not*
> because of their shortage, but because of some panic-strucken squirrels
> who have started to stock up like mad. Toilet rolls seem to be a very,
> very hot item now too... why it's always toilet rolls??? %-)
>
But, I've heard, reactor cooling system working now and radiation falling
down. Is this the true?
Also, I've heard some workers were over exposed to radiation during their
efforts to cool down the reactors and that can be fatal to them. That's a
very sad thing to hear...
Hidehiko Ogata
"Leo" <leo...kulcar@inet...hr> wrote:
>
> But, I've heard, reactor cooling system working now and radiation falling
> down. Is this the true?
AFAIK, nope. They should be just about plugging in the power cable into
the cooling system of the 2nd plant now. They say it's parallel to that
of the 1st plant as well, so there is a little hope (phew!)
Meanwhile, firefighters are sprinkling water all over the place in the
scant hope it might help at all.
Whether the system itself is intact, after the quake, flood and
explosions, is another story...
> Also, I've heard some workers were over exposed to radiation during their
> efforts to cool down the reactors and that can be fatal to them. That's a
> very sad thing to hear...
Indeed. Sad thing is, they are most likely to be part-timers hired just
for the job. I'd bet my A4000 that TEPCO execs are already farthest
away from the plant as possible, if they are still in Japan at all :/
Angus
hide_no@spam_leaf.ocn.ne.jp says...
>
> In article <im02ua$5rl$1...@sunce.iskon.hr>,
> "Leo" <leo...kulcar@inet...hr> wrote:
> >
> > But, I've heard, reactor cooling system working now and radiation falling
> > down. Is this the true?
>
> AFAIK, nope. They should be just about plugging in the power cable into
> the cooling system of the 2nd plant now. They say it's parallel to that
> of the 1st plant as well, so there is a little hope (phew!)
>
How's it going with you now, Hidehiko-San?
We hear the news but its quite confusing as to what progress is being
made and how bad things are. The last I heard was they'd found a 30 cm
crack in one of the reactors that was leaking radioactive water into the
sea.
How is your day-to-day life old friend? Not too bad, I hope.
All the best.
Nate Brazil
> In article <wile-e-hide_no-9E2425.09113619032...@nntp.aioe.org>, wile-e-
> hide_no@spam_leaf.ocn.ne.jp says...
>
>
>
> > In article <im02ua$5r...@sunce.iskon.hr>,
> > "Leo" <leo...kulcar@inet...hr> wrote:
>
> > > But, I've heard, reactor cooling system working now and radiation falling
> > > down. Is this the true?
>
> > AFAIK, nope. They should be just about plugging in the power cable into
> > the cooling system of the 2nd plant now. They say it's parallel to that
> > of the 1st plant as well, so there is a little hope (phew!)
>
> How's it going with you now, Hidehiko-San?
>
> We hear the news but its quite confusing as to what progress is being
> made and how bad things are. The last I heard was they'd found a 30 cm
> crack in one of the reactors that was leaking radioactive water into the
> sea.
>
> How is your day-to-day life old friend? Not too bad, I hope.
>
> All the best.
Indeed - how are things going for you? I haven't posted in a while
but
am watching the newsgroup closely, as well as watching a very
good friend of mine track her way home from Japan to the U.S.
She arrived in San Diego safely and is finding some temporary
work before being transferred back to Japan.
It's great that we can communicate through this old Amiga
newsgroup to friends in the East.
When things settle down, and this may take a while, perhaps
we can pick a new game or two to review. I got kind of
bogged down in KGB...
Nate Brazil
Angus
@k22g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, nateb...@comcast.net says...
>
>
> It's great that we can communicate through this old Amiga
> newsgroup to friends in the East.
>
> When things settle down, and this may take a while, perhaps
> we can pick a new game or two to review. I got kind of
> bogged down in KGB...
>
Me too. :)
It was going so well until I got stuck in a freezer with some dead
bodies!
I agree we should start something else.
I'm a bit concerned about Hidehiko, no response from e-mail either.
I expect the rolling power cuts aren't exactly helping, but if you read
this Hidehiko, let us know how you are.