Amiga Inc Insolvent
Thomas Peters
Gary Beeton
news:3F5E6D9B...@I.Hate.Spam.net:
> http://flyingmice.com/cgi-bin/squidcgi/mbmessage.pl/amiga/90774.shtml
Well it wouldn't surprise me if it were true, but we've seen many, many
false rumours of Amiga Inc's demise in the past. And I certainly
wouldn't trust any "news" that came from Merlancia!
[Let's see how long it will take now for TerryTroll to twist this into
a declaration that I have betrayed Mr. McEwen, shall we?]
--
Gary Beeton
Clockmeister
"Gary Beeton" <gbe...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:Xns93F1E6BCC26...@24.66.94.159...
> Thomas Peters <gionp...@I.Hate.Spam.net> wrote in
> news:3F5E6D9B...@I.Hate.Spam.net:
>
> > http://flyingmice.com/cgi-bin/squidcgi/mbmessage.pl/amiga/90774.shtml
>
> Well it wouldn't surprise me if it were true, but we've seen many, many
> false rumours of Amiga Inc's demise in the past. And I certainly
> wouldn't trust any "news" that came from Merlancia!
merlancia.us is not Merlancia Industries.
I believe it, last I heard Amiga Inc. was operated as a home business so it
was only going to be a matter of time before they folded altogether.
Regards,
Clockmeister.
Brian E. Doe
<3F5E6D9B...@I.Hate.Spam.net> in :
> http://flyingmice.com/cgi-bin/squidcgi/mbmessage.pl/amiga/90774.shtml
>
> Mad Dog
This coming from a post by Rich Woods on a MorphOS-sympathetic message forum?
Hang on, let me see what amiga.com has to say about the subject...
Hmmmm... Bill McEwen states that it's all bunk.
Now, who do we believe? The MOS camp? The Amiga CEO? They both have obvious
bias, so I choose to believe someone who has no ties to either camp. Can
anyone suggest such a site?
--
Brian Team *AMIGA* NewsCoaster v1.57
Member "I Am Amiga" Fan Club
"La Amiga est morte. Viva la Amiga!"
T Palfrey
> Thomas Peters <gionp...@I.Hate.Spam.net> wrote in
> news:3F5E6D9B...@I.Hate.Spam.net:
> > http://flyingmice.com/cgi-bin/squidcgi/mbmessage.pl/amiga/90774.shtml
> Well it wouldn't surprise me if it were true, but we've seen many, many
> false rumours of Amiga Inc's demise in the past. And I certainly
> wouldn't trust any "news" that came from Merlancia!
Do you have a password?
Gee what a stupid question. I have lots.
No, did you read the examination for discovery?
What examination and what is there to discover.
Uhh, uhhh. Sigh.
The depths of your ignorance remain unplumbed.
> [Let's see how long it will take now for TerryTroll to twist this into
> a declaration that I have betrayed Mr. McEwen, shall we?]
What are you on about?
Trolling again.
Terry
Gary Beeton
news:vlvnl2a...@corp.supernews.com:
> The depths of your ignorance remain unplumbed.
Please do enlighten us, O Wise One.
>> [Let's see how long it will take now for TerryTroll to twist this
>> into a declaration that I have betrayed Mr. McEwen, shall we?]
>
> What are you on about?
It goes like this, TerryTroll: I say something (anything - it doesn't
matter what). Then TerryTroll launches a vicious and malicious attack
upon me for no reason other than spite (just like you are doing now).
That's what happens when Terry goes...
> Trolling again.
Bingo! Thanks for admitting it.
--
Gary Beeton
Clockmeister
"Brian E. Doe" <bdoe.sp...@nozirev.net> wrote in message
news:93831006325701453.NC...@news.verizon.net...
> On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 20:17:32 -0400, Thomas Peters ranted and raved about
> <3F5E6D9B...@I.Hate.Spam.net> in :
>
> > http://flyingmice.com/cgi-bin/squidcgi/mbmessage.pl/amiga/90774.shtml
> >
> > Mad Dog
>
> This coming from a post by Rich Woods on a MorphOS-sympathetic message
forum?
> Hang on, let me see what amiga.com has to say about the subject...
>
> Hmmmm... Bill McEwen states that it's all bunk.
>
> Now, who do we believe? The MOS camp? The Amiga CEO? They both have
obvious
> bias, so I choose to believe someone who has no ties to either camp. Can
> anyone suggest such a site?
>
With Amiga Inc. working operating from a spare bedroom these days I have no
doubt that the end is nigh.
Regards,
Clockmeister.
T Palfrey
> "T Palfrey" <tpal...@istar.ca> wrote in
> news:vlvnl2a...@corp.supernews.com:
> > http://flyingmice.com/cgi-bin/squidcgi/mbmessage.pl/amiga/90774.shtml
>> >Well it wouldn't surprise me if it were true, but we've seen many, many
> >>false rumours of Amiga Inc's demise in the past. And I certainly
> >>wouldn't trust any "news" that came from Merlancia!
>>Do you have a password?
>>Gee what a stupid question. I have lots.
>>No, did you read the examination for discovery?
>>What examination and what is there to discover.
>>Uhh, uhhh. Sigh.
>>The depths of your ignorance remain unplumbed.
> Please do enlighten us, O Wise One.
Us? The royal we? This was solely about you, your
Highness, do not presume to speak for any other posters
or lurkers.
Did you read the attached document that Thomas provided?
Do you have a password to read the rest of the court
documents? Do you know what they are talking about?
Or ae you once again flailing about waiting for someone to
explain it all to you?
> >> [Let's see how long it will take now for TerryTroll to twist this
> >> into a declaration that I have betrayed Mr. McEwen, shall we?]
> > What are you on about?
> It goes like this, TerryTroll: I say something (anything - it doesn't
> matter what). Then TerryTroll launches a vicious and malicious attack
> upon me for no reason other than spite (just like you are doing now).
> That's what happens when Terry goes...
Ahh, so you specifically attack me as a troll in an attempt to draw
me into your fantasy martyrdom so that you can then gratify yourself
by saying I am starting things by attacking you. Funny troll.
> > Trolling again.
> Bingo! Thanks for admitting it.
Since the subject was you and your unplumbed depths of
ignorance this is a simple statement about your actions.
I added the snips back in for actual context. The question
remains, do you have a password, ie. to be taken as access
to the court documents, or not.
Terry
Gary Beeton
> "Gary Beeton" <gbe...@shaw.ca> wrote in
> message news:Xns93F2E9592A8...@24.66.94.159...
>
>> Please do enlighten us, O Wise One.
>
> Us? The royal we? This was solely about you, your
> Highness, do not presume to speak for any other posters
> or lurkers.
IOW, TerryTroll has no fucking clue what he's talking about (as usual)
but he won't let that stop him from trolling. Sorry, WeaselBoy, but
I'm not biting. Go find yourself somebody else to victimize for a
change.
--
Gary Beeton
David S Lund
> On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 20:17:32 -0400, Thomas Peters ranted and raved about
> <3F5E6D9B...@I.Hate.Spam.net> in :
>
> > http://flyingmice.com/cgi-bin/squidcgi/mbmessage.pl/amiga/90774.shtml
> >
> > Mad Dog
>
> This coming from a post by Rich Woods on a MorphOS-sympathetic message forum?
> Hang on, let me see what amiga.com has to say about the subject...
>
> Hmmmm... Bill McEwen states that it's all bunk.
>
> Now, who do we believe? The MOS camp? The Amiga CEO? They both have obvious
> bias, so I choose to believe someone who has no ties to either camp. Can
> anyone suggest such a site?
>
We could ask Steve? :)
--
Pegasos1 * 256 MB Ram * Morphos 1.4 * 60 GB HD * Catweasel MKIII *
Rockin!!!
Terry
> 222 341027 <Xns93F357CC63C...@24.66.94.159>
Don't bite then. Don't post, don't answer back and stop trolling.
Let's put the snips back in so that you can't run away again,
the questions remain totally dodged and completely unanswered:
> > http://flyingmice.com/cgi-bin/squidcgi/mbmessage.pl/amiga/90774.shtml
>> >Well it wouldn't surprise me if it were true, but we've seen many, many
> >>false rumours of Amiga Inc's demise in the past. And I certainly
> >>wouldn't trust any "news" that came from Merlancia!
>>Do you have a password?
>>Gee what a stupid question. I have lots.
>>No, did you read the examination for discovery?
>>What examination and what is there to discover.
>>Uhh, uhhh. Sigh.
>>The depths of your ignorance remain unplumbed.
> Please do enlighten us, O Wise One.
Us? The royal we? This was solely about you, your
Highness, do not presume to speak for any other posters
or lurkers.
Did you read the attached document that Thomas provided?
Do you have a password to read the rest of the court
documents? Do you know what they are talking about?
Or ae you once again flailing about waiting for someone to
explain it all to you?
> >> [Let's see how long it will take now for TerryTroll to twist this
> >> into a declaration that I have betrayed Mr. McEwen, shall we?]
> > What are you on about?
> It goes like this, TerryTroll: I say something (anything - it doesn't
> matter what). Then TerryTroll launches a vicious and malicious attack
> upon me for no reason other than spite (just like you are doing now).
> That's what happens when Terry goes...
Ahh, so you specifically attack me as a troll in an attempt to draw
me into your fantasy martyrdom so that you can then gratify yourself
by saying I am starting things by attacking you. Funny troll.
> > Trolling again.
> Bingo! Thanks for admitting it.
Since the subject was you and your unplumbed depths of
ignorance this is a simple statement about your actions.
I added the snips back in for actual context. The question
remains, do you have a password, ie. to be taken as access
to the court documents, or not.
Terry
Terry
> --
> Gary Beeton
>
Gary Beeton
news:938410...@a1a65803.sympatico.bconnected.net:
> Don't post, don't answer back and stop trolling.
Go fuck yourself, scumbag. I'll do as I please despite TerryTroll's
demands.
--
Gary Beeton
T Palfrey
It was simple advice, you're frothing at the mouth and the foam
is dripping on your keyboard, take a break before you become
Mr. Anonymous's replacement :^)
Terry
Gary Beeton
> "Gary Beeton" <gbe...@shaw.ca> wrote in
> message news:Xns93F3E660A5A...@24.66.94.159...
>
>> tpal...@zool.com (Terry) wrote in
>> news:938410...@a1a65803.sympatico.bconnected.net:
>
>> > Don't post, don't answer back and stop trolling.
>
>> Go fuck yourself, scumbag. I'll do as I please despite
>> TerryTroll's demands.
>
> It was simple advice
Looked to me like Mr. Dictatorwannabe rearing its ugly head again.
(BTW, you're not fooling anybody with that smiley - you are a
malicious troll and everybody knows it)
--
Gary Beeton
Brian E. Doe
<93841080349840...@news.charter.net> in :
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 20:46:47 GMT, "Brian E. Doe" wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 20:17:32 -0400, Thomas Peters ranted and raved about
> > <3F5E6D9B...@I.Hate.Spam.net> in :
> >
> > > http://flyingmice.com/cgi-bin/squidcgi/mbmessage.pl/amiga/90774.shtml
> > >
> > > Mad Dog
> >
> > This coming from a post by Rich Woods on a MorphOS-sympathetic message forum?
> > Hang on, let me see what amiga.com has to say about the subject...
> >
> > Hmmmm... Bill McEwen states that it's all bunk.
> >
> > Now, who do we believe? The MOS camp? The Amiga CEO? They both have obvious
> > bias, so I choose to believe someone who has no ties to either camp. Can
> > anyone suggest such a site?
> >
>
> We could ask Steve? :)
Oh, good GOD no! =:)
T Palfrey
> "T Palfrey" <tpal...@istar.ca> wrote in
> news:vm3bv9r...@corp.supernews.com:
> > "Gary Beeton" <gbe...@shaw.ca> wrote in
> > message news:Xns93F3E660A5A...@24.66.94.159...
> >> tpal...@zool.com (Terry) wrote in
> >> news:938410...@a1a65803.sympatico.bconnected.net:
<snippage restored for context>
:IOW, TerryTroll has no fucking clue what he's talking about (as usual)
: but he won't let that stop him from trolling. Sorry, WeaselBoy, but
: I'm not biting. Go find yourself somebody else to victimize for a
: change.
> >> > Don't post, don't answer back and stop trolling.
> >> Go fuck yourself, scumbag. I'll do as I please despite
> >> TerryTroll's demands.
> > It was simple advice
> Looked to me like Mr. Dictatorwannabe rearing its ugly head again.
> (BTW, you're not fooling anybody with that smiley - you are a
> malicious troll and everybody knows it)
:It was simple advice, you're frothing at the mouth and the foam
:is dripping on your keyboard, take a break before you become
:Mr. Anonymous's replacement :^)
Seems like the only out of control spew factory around here at
the moment is you Gary. Take a pill, settle down. You've given
me several direct orders which in your book constitutes being
a real fascist.
Try hooking up your Amiga and posting from it.
It will make you feel much better.
Remember, Amigas are fun.
Terry
Gary Beeton
> <snippage restored for context>
Geeze, Palfrey, you just can't prevent yourself from trolling, can you?
--
Gary Beeton
palfrey
> > <snippage restored for context>
Geeze Beeton, you started it. Posting about H&P selling Amithlon
still despite the "dispute".
Why don't you hook up your Amiga at least?
Is it beneath you or something?
Terry
Gary Beeton
Keep trollin', trollin', trollin',
Though they're disapprovin',
Keep them insults rollin', run'n'hide.
Don't try to understand 'em,
Just bate 'em, lie, and brand 'em.
Soon I'll be despised from far and wide.
My heart's calculatin',
Conniving, scheming, baitin',
Baitin' 'til the end of my ride.
Troll along, tell a lie,
Tell a lie, troll along,
Troll along, tell a lie, run'n'hide!
Head in sand, not a clue,
Not a clue, head in sand,
Dodge the truth, not a clue, run'n'hide!
Keep trollin', trollin', trollin',
Though my head is swollen,
Keep that bullshit flowin', run'n'hide.
Through rain and wind and weather,
I think I'm pretty clever,
Just wishin' I had a little pride.
All the things I'm missin',
Good sense, wit and learnin',
Won't be caught dead within my stinkin' hide.
Troll along, tell a lie,
Tell a lie, troll along,
Troll along, tell a lie, run'n'hide!
Head up ass, not a clue,
Not a clue, head up ass,
Dodge the truth, not a clue, run'n'hide!
RUN'N'HIDE!!!
--
Gary Beeton
palfrey
Oh dear, have I done something to hurt your feelings?
I don't think about you that way at all.
If you weren't such a pompous ass you would have
posted from your Amiga way back when instead of
giving off a bs "you just have to trust me" that I
still have an run an Amiga.
But no Gary, you went bonkers and started to
accuse me of being a fascist dictator who was trying
to determine who was worthy or not of posting in
comp.sys.amiga.advocacy.
You reap what you sow "little man" enjoy your
self imposed martyrdom - someday when you
want to talk about Amigas or actually put yours
online again we'll talk.
You're done.
Terry
Gary Beeton
@corp.supernews.com:
> Oh dear, have I done something to hurt your feelings?
You maliciously attacked me without cause. DUH!
> But no Gary, you went bonkers and started to
> accuse me of being a fascist dictator who was trying
> to determine who was worthy or not of posting in
> comp.sys.amiga.advocacy.
You mean like when you demanded: "Don't post, don't answer back and
stop trolling"?
> You reap what you sow "little man"
I've been telling you that for months! Why do you think everybody
makes SO MUCH fun of you here??
> someday when you
> want to talk about Amigas or actually put yours
> online again we'll talk.
Every time I try to talk about Amigas you maliciously attack me. Is
that what you mean by "talking"?
> You're done.
palfrey
> "palfrey" <tpal...@dccnet.com> wrote in news:vm70asdtb46527
> @corp.supernews.com:
> > Oh dear, have I done something to hurt your feelings?
> You maliciously attacked me without cause. DUH!
There was little malicious intent, it was simple payback for
the months of having to endure your rants on fascism directed
at me in an open and public newsgroup. How could I not
take note of your sudden and completely downplayed
position about Amithlon and call you on it. Thank goodness
you came to your senses, as well as Noel, and put it
on H&P again where you had it before.
> > But no Gary, you went bonkers and started to
> > accuse me of being a fascist dictator who was trying
> > to determine who was worthy or not of posting in
> > comp.sys.amiga.advocacy.
> You mean like when you demanded: "Don't post, don't
> answer back and stop trolling"?
Back to your dictionary young man, there was nothing
urgent or premptory about that line. It was made in
response to your over the top potty mouthed spew, you
lost it, try and imagine me giving you some good advice,
quietly and without rancor.
As for my "demand" that people post from an Amiga,
that was along the lines of a "requirement" and was not
either premptory nor urgent which are definers of
"demand" in the form that you are using it.
Either way you chose not to do so despite assuring us
that you indeed had and used an Amiga but then you took
it much farther and claimed that this stopped you from
having any legitimacy with regard to having used an
Amiga when such was clearly not the case.
> > You reap what you sow "little man"
> I've been telling you that for months! Why do you think everybody
> makes SO MUCH fun of you here??
You're the one literally frothing with your potty mouth spew,
not me. You've followed your current path for over a year and
you cannot now say that it is simply a matter of months.
> > someday when you
> > want to talk about Amigas or actually put yours
> > online again we'll talk.
> Every time I try to talk about Amigas you maliciously attack me. Is
> that what you mean by "talking"?
Only in your tiny pointy little head Gary. It's all been hashed over,
you cannot sustain a conversation for more than two iterations
before you descend into your own little private hell where
everyone is against you.
> > You're done.
> RUN'N'HIDE!!!
So now you think it is a lot of fun for me to be the butt of
your Mr. Anonymous impersonation?
You're deluded. Get a little civility going and get back
to me.
Put your Amiga online and see how you feel then.
Terry
Gary Beeton
news:vm75p8q...@corp.supernews.com:
> "Gary Beeton" <gbe...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:Xns93F5A0702B8...@24.66.94.159...
>
>> You maliciously attacked me without cause. DUH!
>
> There was little malicious intent
BULLSHIT!!
> How could I not
> take note of your sudden and completely downplayed
> position about Amithlon and call you on it.
You *just* *can't* *stop* yourself from lying, can you!
Keep trollin', trollin', trollin' ...
>> You mean like when you demanded: "Don't post, don't
>> answer back and stop trolling"?
>
> Back to your dictionary young man, there was nothing
> urgent or premptory about that line.
I guess you forgot your smiley, huh?
> try and imagine me giving you some good advice,
> quietly and without rancor.
Sorry, that's impossible. Even if you were capable of doing so
(which you aren't!), your reputation precedes you, preventing
anybody from accepting anything you say ever again.
> As for my "demand" that people post from an Amiga,
> that was along the lines of a "requirement"
Sorry, TrollBoy, but there is no such "requirement" mandated for
people to post to c.s.a.a (or any other public ng, for that matter).
It is because of your endeavours to impose such a requirement that
people call you a dictatorwannabe.
> Either way you chose not to do so despite assuring us
> that you indeed had and used an Amiga
Go look up the word "assure".
> but then you took
> it much farther and claimed that this stopped you from
> having any legitimacy with regard to having used an
> Amiga
Er, excuse me, but that was YOU, WeaselBreath, who claimed that
about me. I have never doubted my "legitimacy" here.
>> > You reap what you sow "little man"
>
>> I've been telling you that for months! Why do you think
>> everybody makes SO MUCH fun of you here??
>
> You're the one literally frothing with your potty mouth spew
Sorry if you don't like the language, but I guess you should have
thought of that before you attacked me without cause.
> You've followed your current path for over a year and
> you cannot now say that it is simply a matter of months.
Last I checked, a year was made up of months. Is that too tough a
concept for your tiny little mind to grasp?
>> Every time I try to talk about Amigas you maliciously attack me.
>> Is that what you mean by "talking"?
>
> Only in your tiny pointy little head Gary.
Have you so quickly forgotten that you owe c.s.a.a and myself an
apology for your most recent malicious attack upon me??
> So now you think it is a lot of fun for me to be the butt of
> your Mr. Anonymous impersonation?
Cause and effect, TerryTroll. You've EARNED it!!!
> Get a little civility going and get back to me.
As if an amoral little prick like you deserves any civility!
> Put your Amiga online and see how you feel then.
As you well know, they've been online for many, many years. But
that hasn't made you any less of an infantile, low-life,
mealymouthed, lying asshole. So obviously having my Amigas online
hasn't changed my feeling about you one little bit. Why, how is it
supposed to make me feel? Is it supposed to make me forget what a
putrid little worm you are?
--
Gary Beeton
Terry
> 222 341041 <Xns93F5B7F2ED7...@24.66.94.159>
> "palfrey" <tpal...@dccnet.com> wrote in
> news:vm75p8q...@corp.supernews.com:
> > "Gary Beeton" <gbe...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> > news:Xns93F5A0702B8...@24.66.94.159...
> >> You maliciously attacked me without cause. DUH!
> > There was little malicious intent
> BULLSHIT!!
Really, the only maliciousness around here is that that is
generated in your tiny pointy little head.
> > How could I not
> > take note of your sudden and completely downplayed
> > position about Amithlon and call you on it.
> You *just* *can't* *stop* yourself from lying, can you!
You made such a big deal out of Mr. Ethical, suddenly it
isn't. Do the math.
> Keep trollin', trollin', trollin' ...
Your theme song....
> >> You mean like when you demanded: "Don't post, don't
> >> answer back and stop trolling"?
> > Back to your dictionary young man, there was nothing
> > urgent or premptory about that line.
> I guess you forgot your smiley, huh?
Don't need a smiley when someone is frothing over.
The contrast of simple statements says it all.
> > try and imagine me giving you some good advice,
> > quietly and without rancor.
> Sorry, that's impossible. Even if you were capable of doing so
> (which you aren't!), your reputation precedes you, preventing
> anybody from accepting anything you say ever again.
That reputation is wholey manufactured by you. Oops, was
I supposed to notice that?
> > As for my "demand" that people post from an Amiga,
> > that was along the lines of a "requirement"
> Sorry, TrollBoy, but there is no such "requirement" mandated for
> people to post to c.s.a.a (or any other public ng, for that matter).
> It is because of your endeavours to impose such a requirement that
> people call you a dictatorwannabe.
Yes there is certainly a requirement for that if you want me to
believe that you still own and use an Amiga. All the rest that comes
out of your mouth is simply so much heresay.
Do you understand that?
If you don't post from an Amiga then gee, you might know stuff
but there isn't anything to show that you actually still use one.
Unless of course you are willing to back up your words.
You aren't.
And chicken little, it was you that started that nonsense to
cover up the fact that you weren't posting from an Amiga.
> > Either way you chose not to do so despite assuring us
> > that you indeed had and used an Amiga
> Go look up the word "assure".
I'm willing to go with had but that's it.
> > but then you took
> > it much farther and claimed that this stopped you from
> > having any legitimacy with regard to having used an
> > Amiga
> Er, excuse me, but that was YOU, WeaselBreath, who claimed that
> about me. I have never doubted my "legitimacy" here.
It's not about your legitimacy, it's about your credibility. You
no longer have any in my book, you're just a troll.
> >> > You reap what you sow "little man"
> >> I've been telling you that for months! Why do you think
> >> everybody makes SO MUCH fun of you here??
> > You're the one literally frothing with your potty mouth spew
> Sorry if you don't like the language, but I guess you should have
> thought of that before you attacked me without cause.
There was more than adequate cause Mr. Ethical. As for the
language, I'd say you and Mr. Anonymous share far more traits
than I do according to your *evidence* and *proof*.
> > You've followed your current path for over a year and
> > you cannot now say that it is simply a matter of months.
> Last I checked, a year was made up of months. Is that too tough a
> concept for your tiny little mind to grasp?
Any excuse. Go play.
> >> Every time I try to talk about Amigas you maliciously attack me.
> >> Is that what you mean by "talking"?
> > Only in your tiny pointy little head Gary.
> Have you so quickly forgotten that you owe c.s.a.a and myself an
> apology for your most recent malicious attack upon me??
Nothing malicious about calling a troll on an overextended
hyperbolic rant about ethics when he reverses himself.
> > So now you think it is a lot of fun for me to be the butt of
> > your Mr. Anonymous impersonation?
> Cause and effect, TerryTroll. You've EARNED it!!!
You're a little minded troll.
> > Get a little civility going and get back to me.
> As if an amoral little prick like you deserves any civility!
Look in a mirror, would you like me to repost your little rants?
> > Put your Amiga online and see how you feel then.
> As you well know, they've been online for many, many years. But
> that hasn't made you any less of an infantile, low-life,
> mealymouthed, lying asshole.
X-news runs on an Amiga?
>So obviously having my Amigas online
> hasn't changed my feeling about you one little bit. Why, how is it
> supposed to make me feel? Is it supposed to make me forget what a
> putrid little worm you are?
The output of WhichAmiga posted from an Amiga newsreader.
Otherwise you have been hoist on your own petard.
Terry
>
Gary Beeton
news:938613...@a1a65803.sympatico.bconnected.net:
> Gary Beeton <gbe...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> 222 341041 <Xns93F5B7F2ED7...@24.66.94.159>
>
>> "palfrey" <tpal...@dccnet.com> wrote in
>> news:vm75p8q...@corp.supernews.com:
>
>> > There was little malicious intent
>
>> BULLSHIT!!
>
> Really, the only maliciousness around here is that that is
> generated in your tiny pointy little head.
BULLSHIT!!
>> You *just* *can't* *stop* yourself from lying, can you!
>
> You made such a big deal out of Mr. Ethical, suddenly it
> isn't. Do the math.
"Mr. Ethical"?? *What* "suddenly isn't" *what*?? Do what "math"??
As usual, you are making absolutely no sense whatsoever. So please
let's get back to the topic at hand. We were discussing your
pathological need to lie in order to make your so-called "point"
(which you have, thus far, failed to get around to) ...
>> > try and imagine me giving you some good advice,
>> > quietly and without rancor.
>
>> Sorry, that's impossible. Even if you were capable of doing so
>> (which you aren't!), your reputation precedes you, preventing
>> anybody from accepting anything you say ever again.
>
> That reputation is wholey manufactured by you.
Cause and effect, TerryTroll. You reap what you sow, TerryTroll.
You get what you deserve, TerryTroll. You've EARNED that
reputation, TerryTroll. Now you are paying the price for being such
an asshole for so long, TerryTroll. Is any of this sinking in,
TerryTroll?
> Yes there is certainly a requirement for that if you want me to
> believe that you still own and use an Amiga.
You already know that I do. You told me that you have been assured
of that fact. So what is your problem exactly?
> If you don't post from an Amiga then gee, you might know stuff
> but there isn't anything to show that you actually still use one.
And? So? What if I do? What if I don't? Does it really matter to
anybody but one tired old dictatorwannabe troll? You already
acknowledged that I "know stuff". Isn't that more important than
passing your meaningless test? [Hint: Yes, it is]
> Unless of course you are willing to back up your words.
I have. You just finished acknowledging it.
> And chicken little, it was you that started that nonsense to
> cover up the fact that you weren't posting from an Amiga.
Another one of your goofy conspiracy theories, TrollBoy? I have
never tried hiding it. There is absolutely zero point in me posting
from my Amiga. I am on record for stated that from the outset.
> It's not about your legitimacy, it's about your credibility. You
> no longer have any in my book
I'm glad to hear that! Having credibility in your book would be the
biggest insult I could imagine.
>> Sorry if you don't like the language, but I guess you should have
>> thought of that before you attacked me without cause.
>
> There was more than adequate cause Mr. Ethical.
Such as? (Please do try to stick to the facts for a change,
WeaselBoy)
>> Have you so quickly forgotten that you owe c.s.a.a and myself an
>> apology for your most recent malicious attack upon me??
>
> Nothing malicious about calling a troll on an overextended
> hyperbolic rant about ethics when he reverses himself.
You're doing it again, Sleazebag. More lies won't hide your past
lies. The mature thing for you to do would be to apologize for this
malicious attack. So what will TerryTroll do?
>> > So now you think it is a lot of fun for me to be the butt of
>> > your Mr. Anonymous impersonation?
>
>> Cause and effect, TerryTroll. You've EARNED it!!!
>
> You're a little minded troll.
Hiding behind more lies, Terry? Do you think that will endear you
in the minds of the followers of c.s.a.a? Are you beginning to see
why I and so very many other people have made fun of you here over
the years? It's quite a L-O-O-O-O-O-N-G list of people, isn't it,
Terry?
>> As if an amoral little prick like you deserves any civility!
>
> Look in a mirror, would you like me to repost your little rants?
As long as you put them into their proper context and also include a
few of your own doozies, sure, go ahead! Unlike you, I have nothing
to be ashamed of.
>> > Put your Amiga online and see how you feel then.
>
>> As you well know, they've been online for many, many years. But
>> that hasn't made you any less of an infantile, low-life,
>> mealymouthed, lying asshole.
>
> X-news runs on an Amiga?
You've completely missed the point, as usual. Please read it again,
Terry, starting with: "But that hasn't made you any less of an
infantile, low-life, mealymouthed, lying asshole".
>>So obviously having my Amigas online
>> hasn't changed my feeling about you one little bit. Why, how is
>> it supposed to make me feel? Is it supposed to make me forget
>> what a putrid little worm you are?
>
> The output of WhichAmiga posted from an Amiga newsreader.
The output of WhichAmiga will make me forget what a putrid little
worm you are?? Please explain...
--
Gary Beeton
tpalfrey
>tpal...@zool.com (Terry) wrote in
>news:938613...@a1a65803.sympatico.bconnected.net:
>> Gary Beeton <gbe...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>> 222 341041 <Xns93F5B7F2ED7...@24.66.94.159>
>>> "palfrey" <tpal...@dccnet.com> wrote in
>>> news:vm75p8q...@corp.supernews.com:
>>> > There was little malicious intent
>>> BULLSHIT!!
>> Really, the only maliciousness around here is that that is
>> generated in your tiny pointy little head.
>BULLSHIT!!
Fine, believe what you will.
>>> You *just* *can't* *stop* yourself from lying, can you!
>> You made such a big deal out of being Mr. Ethical, suddenly it
>> isn't. Do the math.
>"Mr. Ethical"?? *What* "suddenly isn't" *what*?? Do what
>"math"?? As usual, you are making absolutely no sense whatsoever.
>So please let's get back to the topic at hand. We were discussing
>your pathological need to lie in order to make your so-called
>"point" (which you have, thus far, failed to get around to) ...
Like your martyr complex that equated providing proof of use as
being barred as a legitimate user. Like somehow a "show me" request
denied the existence of your experience. Get off that horse, the
height is affecting your judgement.
>>>> try and imagine me giving you some good advice, quietly and
>>>> without rancor.
>>> Sorry, that's impossible. Even if you were capable of doing so
>>> (which you aren't!), your reputation precedes you, preventing
>>> anybody from accepting anything you say ever again.
>> That reputation is wholey manufactured by you.
>Cause and effect, TerryTroll. You reap what you sow, TerryTroll.
>You get what you deserve, TerryTroll. You've EARNED that
>reputation, TerryTroll. Now you are paying the price for being
>such an asshole for so long, TerryTroll. Is any of this sinking
>in, TerryTroll?
Actually Gary you're the one hung up on that. Somehow I am
responsible for your feelings. All I asked was proof of current use
and you have been going off half cocked ever since. Too lazy to
plug in the cable, you are a fascist, your test is useless and on
and on and on...
>> Yes there is certainly a requirement for that if you want me to
>> believe that you still own and use an Amiga.
>You already know that I do. You told me that you have been
>assured of that fact. So what is your problem exactly?
No Gary, I don't, all I know is that you have done everything under
the sun to avoid posting from it. You haven't proved one thing here
except that you lead a frustrating enough life that you need to
blow off in a public newsgroup no matter how stupid it makes you
look.
>> If you don't post from an Amiga then gee, you might know stuff
>> but there isn't anything to show that you actually still use
>> one.
>And? So? What if I do? What if I don't? Does it really matter
>to anybody but one tired old dictatorwannabe troll? You already
>acknowledged that I "know stuff". Isn't that more important than
>passing your meaningless test? [Hint: Yes, it is]
Nope, the issue at the time was currency of use. Go look it up.
>> Unless of course you are willing to back up your words.
>I have. You just finished acknowledging it.
Twist and burn troll. You haven't proved one thing except that you
have a very low threshold of excitability when someone questions
your story.
>> And chicken little, it was you that started that nonsense to
>> cover up the fact that you weren't posting from an Amiga.
>Another one of your goofy conspiracy theories, TrollBoy? I have
>never tried hiding it. There is absolutely zero point in me
>posting from my Amiga. I am on record for stated that from the
>outset.
Nothing goofy about it you got caught doing everything but and now
you want to make it a "zero point"?
>> It's not about your legitimacy, it's about your credibility. You
>> no longer have any in my book
>I'm glad to hear that! Having credibility in your book would be
>the biggest insult I could imagine.
Then why the song and dance for the last year?
>>> Sorry if you don't like the language, but I guess you should
>>> have thought of that before you attacked me without cause.
>> There was more than adequate cause Mr. Ethical.
>Such as? (Please do try to stick to the facts for a change,
>WeaselBoy)
You ranted and raved and went off on Steve over his take on
Amithlon, H&P and so on and then casually suggest to Sam that he
can have Amithlon by ordering it from H&P. That is a complete
reversal of your high and mighty declarations and condemnations.
>>> Have you so quickly forgotten that you owe c.s.a.a and myself
>>> an apology for your most recent malicious attack upon me??
>> Nothing malicious about calling a troll on an overextended
>> hyperbolic rant about ethics when he reverses himself.
>You're doing it again, Sleazebag. More lies won't hide your past
>lies. The mature thing for you to do would be to apologize for
>this malicious attack. So what will TerryTroll do?
Why don't you go and get Mommy to wipe your mouth.
>>> > So now you think it is a lot of fun for me to be the butt of
>>> > your Mr. Anonymous impersonation?
>>> Cause and effect, TerryTroll. You've EARNED it!!!
>> You're a little minded troll.
>Hiding behind more lies, Terry? Do you think that will endear
>in the minds of the followers of c.s.a.a? Are you beginning to
>see why I and so very many other people have made fun of you here
>over the years? It's quite a L-O-O-O-O-O-N-G list of people,
>isn't it, Terry?
You accuse me of being Mr. Anonymous based on the fact I've never
been attacked and then use his writing style to attack me, so much
for the moral highground.
>>> As if an amoral little prick like you deserves any civility!
>> Look in a mirror, would you like me to repost your little rants?
>As long as you put them into their proper context and also include
>a few of your own doozies, sure, go ahead! Unlike you, I have
>nothing to be ashamed of.
Sure you do, go read what you've written in the last year and then
go to the source posts and see how badly you've overreacted.
>>> Put your Amiga online and see how you feel then.
>>> As you well know, they've been online for many, many years.
>>> But that hasn't made you any less of an infantile, low-life,
>>> mealymouthed, lying asshole.
>> X-news runs on an Amiga?
>You've completely missed the point, as usual. Please read it
>again, Terry, starting with: "But that hasn't made you any less of
>an infantile, low-life, mealymouthed, lying asshole".
I don't think so, if they are online you can post from them.
>>> So obviously having my Amigas online hasn't changed my feeling
>>> about you one little bit. Why, how is it supposed to make me
>>> feel? Is it supposed to make me forget what a putrid little
>>> worm you are?
>> The output of WhichAmiga posted from an Amiga newsreader.
>The output of WhichAmiga will make me forget what a putrid little
>worm you are?? Please explain...
Suddenly you won't be the biggest troll here anymore.
Terry
--
The "From:" address has been ROT13d as an antiSPAM measure
Gary Beeton
news:G6.A6.QR2FKZ...@zool.com:
> "Gary Beeton" writes:
>
>>BULLSHIT!!
>
> Fine, believe what you will.
I happen to believe the truth of the matter, not your malicious
bullshit.
>>"Mr. Ethical"?? *What* "suddenly isn't" *what*?? Do what
>>"math"?? As usual, you are making absolutely no sense whatsoever.
>>So please let's get back to the topic at hand. We were discussing
>>your pathological need to lie in order to make your so-called
>>"point" (which you have, thus far, failed to get around to) ...
>
> Like your martyr...
No, Terry. You're trolling again. Back to the topic at hand - we
were discussing your compulsive lying disorder. Remember? Try to
stay focused.
>>Cause and effect, TerryTroll. You reap what you sow, TerryTroll.
>>You get what you deserve, TerryTroll. You've EARNED that
>>reputation, TerryTroll. Now you are paying the price for being
>>such an asshole for so long, TerryTroll. Is any of this sinking
>>in, TerryTroll?
>
> Actually Gary you're the one hung up on that. Somehow I am
> responsible for your feelings.
Well, DUH! You maliciously slander me in a public forum for no
reason other than your petty spite and then expect me not to be
offended??? Get real, TrollBoy!
>>You already know that I do. You told me that you have been
>>assured of that fact. So what is your problem exactly?
>
> No Gary, I don't
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8
&safe=off&selm=vm75p8qo5guc7a%40corp.supernews.com
"...despite assuring us that you indeed had and used an Amiga..."
-Terry Palfrey, 2003-09-13 15:16:18 PST
Which is it, Terry? Either you are assured that I use an Amiga or
you are not. Pick one. You can't have it both ways.
>>> If you don't post from an Amiga then gee, you might know stuff
>>> but there isn't anything to show that you actually still use
>>> one.
>
>>And? So? What if I do? What if I don't? Does it really matter
>>to anybody but one tired old dictatorwannabe troll? You already
>>acknowledged that I "know stuff". Isn't that more important than
>>passing your meaningless test? [Hint: Yes, it is]
>
> Nope
Yup. Trust me, TerryTroll, NOBODY but you gives a shit about your
silly little test. Posting is meaningless. Knowledge is everything.
Sorry if that cuts you deeply.
>>> Unless of course you are willing to back up your words.
>
>>I have. You just finished acknowledging it.
>
> Twist and burn troll. You haven't proved one thing
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8
&safe=off&selm=vm75p8qo5guc7a%40corp.supernews.com
"...despite assuring us that you indeed had and used an Amiga..."
-Terry Palfrey, 2003-09-13 15:16:18 PST
You contradict yourself once again. And once again I am going to ask
you to pick one of your many personalities and stick with it.
>>Another one of your goofy conspiracy theories, TrollBoy? I have
>>never tried hiding it. There is absolutely zero point in me
>>posting from my Amiga. I am on record for stated that from the
>>outset.
>
> Nothing goofy about it you got caught doing everything but and now
> you want to make it a "zero point"?
It always has been a "zero point" exercise. Despite my many, many
requests asking you to explain what benefit I could possibly gain by
posting from my Amiga, you have yet to answer. If you don't know
then who does?? Not me.
>>I'm glad to hear that! Having credibility in your book would be
>>the biggest insult I could imagine.
>
> Then why the song and dance for the last year?
Gawd but you're thick!! I DON'T LIKE YOUR MALICIOUS LIES AND ABUSE.
How many times must I say it??
>>> There was more than adequate cause Mr. Ethical.
>
>>Such as? (Please do try to stick to the facts for a change,
>>WeaselBoy)
>
> You ranted and raved...
You missed the part where I asked you to please stick to the facts
for a change. You know - facts? As in *not* more of your lies? As
in *not* more of your usual fabricated bullshit? As in the truth?
>>You're doing it again, Sleazebag. More lies won't hide your past
>>lies. The mature thing for you to do would be to apologize for
>>this malicious attack. So what will TerryTroll do?
>
> Why don't you go and get Mommy to wipe your mouth.
TerryTroll chooses the least mature response imaginable.
<heavy sarcasm>What a surprise!</heavy sarcasm>
>>Hiding behind more lies, Terry? Do you think that will endear
>>in the minds of the followers of c.s.a.a? Are you beginning to
>>see why I and so very many other people have made fun of you here
>>over the years? It's quite a L-O-O-O-O-O-N-G list of people,
>>isn't it, Terry?
>
> You accuse me of being Mr. Anonymous based on the fact I've never
> been attacked and then use his writing style to attack me, so much
> for the moral highground.
What part of "You've EARNED it!!!" don't you understand?
>>As long as you put them into their proper context and also include
>>a few of your own doozies, sure, go ahead! Unlike you, I have
>>nothing to be ashamed of.
>
> Sure you do, go read what you've written in the last year and then
> go to the source posts and see how badly you've overreacted.
You being the "source"??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Wow, your Ego
seems to have taken over again. It must be nice to have Mr. Ego to
protect you from the awful truth.
>>You've completely missed the point, as usual. Please read it
>>again, Terry, starting with: "But that hasn't made you any less of
>>an infantile, low-life, mealymouthed, lying asshole".
>
> I don't think so
Think again. Having my Amigas online has most assuredly NOT made you
any less of an infantile, low-life, mealymouthed, lying asshole!
> if they are online you can post from them.
<heavy sarcasm>Wow, that's profound!</heavy sarcasm>
>>The output of WhichAmiga will make me forget what a putrid little
>>worm you are?? Please explain...
>
> Suddenly you won't be the biggest troll here anymore.
Don't be so modest, TerryTroll. Nobody can hold a candle to your
dominant reign! (And BTW, you posting from your Amiga certainly
hasn't lessened your queen-troll stature one little bit)
--
Gary Beeton
tpalfrey
>"tpalfrey" <tpal...@zool.com> wrote in
>news:G6.A6.QR2FKZ...@zool.com:
>> "Gary Beeton" writes:
>>>BULLSHIT!!
>>Fine, believe what you will
.
>>Really, the only maliciousness around here is that that is
>>generated in your tiny pointy little head.
>I happen to believe the truth of the matter, not your malicious
>bullshit.
Tough, you got caught.
>>>"Mr. Ethical"?? *What* "suddenly isn't" *what*?? Do what
>>>"math"?? As usual, you are making absolutely no sense
>>>whatsoever. So please let's get back to the topic at hand. We
>>>were discussing your pathological need to lie in order to make
>>>your so-called "point" (which you have, thus far, failed to get
>>>around to) ...
>> Like your martyr...
>No, Terry. You're trolling again. Back to the topic at hand - we
>were discussing your compulsive lying disorder. Remember? Try to
>stay focused.
Actually Gary we were discussing your lack of ethics and your self
imposed martyrdom:
> Like your martyr complex that equated providing proof of use as
> being barred as a legitimate user. Like somehow a "show me"
> request denied the existence of your experience. Get off that
> horse, the height is affecting your judgement.
I don't have to lie about anything, it's you that revises things,
like your more powerful Amiga, that advocacy is not using or
supporting the Amiga and that there are fascist dictators lurking
everywhere to deny free speech in an open public newsgroup.
>>>Cause and effect, TerryTroll. You reap what you sow,
>>>TerryTroll. You get what you deserve, TerryTroll. You've EARNED
>>>that reputation, TerryTroll. Now you are paying the price for
>>>being such an asshole for so long, TerryTroll. Is any of this
>>>sinking in, TerryTroll?
>> Actually Gary you're the one hung up on that. Somehow I am
>> responsible for your feelings.
>Well, DUH! You maliciously slander me in a public forum for no
>reason other than your petty spite and then expect me not to be
>offended??? Get real, TrollBoy!
So calling me Mr. Anonymous, a fascist dictator and every name in
the book isn't slander? Asking you for proof of your Amiga currency
is malicious slander? Get a life. You gave advice that was the
equivalent of a 180 degree shift in your previous position, in
comp.sys.amiga.advocacy, and you deny that you are trolling or that
you got caught. This is all about feeding your ego.
>>>You already know that I do. You told me that you have been
>>>assured of that fact. So what is your problem exactly?
>> No Gary, I don't
>http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8
>&safe=off&selm=vm75p8qo5guc7a%40corp.supernews.com
>"...despite assuring us that you indeed had and used an Amiga..."
> -Terry Palfrey, 2003-09-13 15:16:18 PST
>Which is it, Terry? Either you are assured that I use an Amiga or
>you are not. Pick one. You can't have it both ways.
The one doing the assuring, based on no evidence at all except your
past record, was you. I wasn't being assured on that basis, the
action was on your part alone. Do you need some help parsing that?
And that's "used" not "use" or "using".
>>>> If you don't post from an Amiga then gee, you might know
>>>> stuff but there isn't anything to show that you actually
>>>> still use one.
>>>And? So? What if I do? What if I don't? Does it really
>>>matter to anybody but one tired old dictatorwannabe troll? You
>>>already acknowledged that I "know stuff". Isn't that more
>>>important than passing your meaningless test? [Hint: Yes, it
>>>is]
>> Nope
Oops, more context snipping of the hard parts:
>No Gary, I don't, all I know is that you have done everything
>under the sun to avoid posting from it. You haven't proved one
>thing here except that you lead a frustrating enough life that you
>need to blow off in a public newsgroup no matter how stupid it
>makes you look.
>>> If you don't post from an Amiga then gee, you might know stuff
>>> but there isn't anything to show that you actually still use
>>> one.
>>And? So? What if I do? What if I don't? Does it really
>>to anybody but one tired old dictatorwannabe troll? You already
>>acknowledged that I "know stuff". Isn't that more important
>>passing your meaningless test? [Hint: Yes, it is]
>Nope, the issue at the time was currency of use. Go look it up.
>>>> Unless of course you are willing to back up your words.
>>>I have. You just finished acknowledging it.
>> Twist and burn troll. You haven't proved one thing
>http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8
>&safe=off&selm=vm75p8qo5guc7a%40corp.supernews.com
>"...despite assuring us that you indeed had and used an Amiga..."
> -Terry Palfrey, 2003-09-13 15:16:18 PST
>You contradict yourself once again. And once again I am going to
>ask you to pick one of your many personalities and stick with it.
Again, the issue at the time was currency of use. Go look it up.
>>>Another one of your goofy conspiracy theories, TrollBoy? I
>>>never tried hiding it. There is absolutely zero point in me
>>>posting from my Amiga. I am on record for stated that from the
>>>outset.
>> Nothing goofy about it you got caught doing everything but and
>> now you want to make it a "zero point"?
>It always has been a "zero point" exercise. Despite my many, many
>requests asking you to explain what benefit I could possibly gain
>by posting from my Amiga, you have yet to answer. If you don't
>know then who does?? Not me.
Maybe some credibility that you are actually telling the truth to
balance off all of your decidely goofy actions for the last year.
>>>I'm glad to hear that! Having credibility in your book would
>>>the biggest insult I could imagine.
>> Then why the song and dance for the last year?
>Gawd but you're thick!! I DON'T LIKE YOUR MALICIOUS LIES AND
>ABUSE. How many times must I say it??
That never stopped you from posting all of your abuse and crap. So
it's another case of do what I say not what I've done. Good on you.
>>>> There was more than adequate cause Mr. Ethical.
>>>Such as? (Please do try to stick to the facts for a change,
>>>WeaselBoy)
>> You ranted and raved...
>You missed the part where I asked you to please stick to the facts
>for a change. You know - facts? As in *not* more of your lies?
>As in *not* more of your usual fabricated bullshit? As in the
>truth?
You missed something:
>>>> Sorry if you don't like the language, but I guess you should
>>>> have thought of that before you attacked me without cause.
>>> There was more than adequate cause Mr. Ethical.
>>Such as? (Please do try to stick to the facts for a change,
>>WeaselBoy)
>You ranted and raved and went off on Steve over his take on
>Amithlon, H&P and so on and then casually suggest to Sam that he
>can have Amithlon by ordering it from H&P. That is a complete
>reversal of your high and mighty declarations and condemnations.
Deal with that set of facts.
You've ranted and raved at me for over a year. Live with it.
You've been called on not posting from your Amiga.
You've been called on your delusional fixations.
You've been called on your claim to be an advocate.
You've been called on your troll welching ways.
You've been called on your so called ethical position.
>>>You're doing it again, Sleazebag. More lies won't hide your
>>>past lies. The mature thing for you to do would be to apologize
>>>for this malicious attack. So what will TerryTroll do?
>> Why don't you go and get Mommy to wipe your mouth.
>TerryTroll chooses the least mature response imaginable. <heavy
>sarcasm>What a suprise!</heavy sarcasm>
You are frothing potty mouthed spew. Go get it wiped off your
chinny chin chin.
As if calling you on an apparent reversal of a high and mighty
moral position unsupported by anything except undocumented claims
is a malicious attack. Get out your dictionary young man.
>>>Hiding behind more lies, Terry? Do you think that will endear
>>>in the minds of the followers of c.s.a.a? Are you beginning to
>>>see why I and so very many other people have made fun of you
>>>here over the years? It's quite a L-O-O-O-O-O-N-G list of
>>>people, isn't it, Terry?
>> You accuse me of being Mr. Anonymous based on the fact I've
>> never been attacked and then use his writing style to attack me,
>> so much for the moral highground.
>What part of "You've EARNED it!!!" don't you understand?
Earned? Pretty impressed with yourself aren't you. Must be the VTVL
you operate under. Who's the more likely suspect, someone so out
of control he imitates the writing style of someone universally
condemned or someone who only gets attacked by trolls he asks for
proof?
>>>As long as you put them into their proper context and also
>>>include a few of your own doozies, sure, go ahead! Unlike you,
>>>I have nothing to be ashamed of.
>> Sure you do, go read what you've written in the last year and
>> then go to the source posts and see how badly you've
>> overreacted.
>You being the "source"??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Wow, your Ego
>seems to have taken over again. It must be nice to have Mr. Ego
>to protect you from the awful truth.
The source being the actual posts, get a grip Gary, you are so
focused on your cheap shots that you miss the point as often as
not.
>>>You've completely missed the point, as usual. Please read it
>>>again, Terry, starting with: "But that hasn't made you any less
>>>of an infantile, low-life, mealymouthed, lying asshole".
>> I don't think so
>Think again. Having my Amigas online has most assuredly NOT made
>you any less of an infantile, low-life, mealymouthed, lying
>asshole!
If that were true, it may however be indicative of why you aren't
pushing that nonsense about fascist dictators taking over public
newsgroups and denying you the "right" to post.
>> if they are online you can post from them.
><heavy sarcasm>Wow, that's profound!</heavy sarcasm>
You keep making claims that you can't back up.
>>>The output of WhichAmiga will make me forget what a putrid
>>>little worm you are?? Please explain...
>> Suddenly you won't be the biggest troll here anymore.
>Don't be so modest, TerryTroll. Nobody can hold a candle to your
>dominant reign! (And BTW, you posting from your Amiga certainly
>hasn't lessened your queen-troll stature one little bit)
Not posting from yours hasn't cleared your record chicken little.
Now about keeping the motherboard based ram on your A4000 which is
a machine you actually know something about...why did you?
Gary Beeton
> "Gary Beeton" writes:
>
>>I happen to believe the truth of the matter, not your malicious
>>bullshit.
>
> Tough, you got caught.
I got caught exposing your malicious lies.
>>No, Terry. You're trolling again. Back to the topic at hand - we
>>were discussing your compulsive lying disorder. Remember? Try to
>>stay focused.
>
> Actually Gary we were discussing your lack of ethics and your self
> imposed martyrdom:
More of your pathological lies. Seek psychiatric help, Terry. Maybe they can
help you before you grow up and become a burden on society.
> I don't have to lie about anything
They why do you do it?
>>Well, DUH! You maliciously slander me in a public forum for no
>>reason other than your petty spite and then expect me not to be
>>offended??? Get real, TrollBoy!
>
> So calling me Mr. Anonymous, a fascist dictator and every name in
> the book isn't slander?
Not when you've earned it. (And remember, it's 'fascist dictatorWANNABE' - you
haven't succeeded yet)
> Asking you for proof of your Amiga currency
> is malicious slander?
No, but re-writing my words to suit your sadistic agenda certainly is. Example
follows:
> You gave advice that was the
> equivalent of a 180 degree shift in your previous position, in
> comp.sys.amiga.advocacy, and you deny that you are trolling or that
> you got caught.
There, now THAT is malicious slander!
>>http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8
>>&safe=off&selm=vm75p8qo5guc7a%40corp.supernews.com
>
>>"...despite assuring us that you indeed had and used an Amiga..."
>> -Terry Palfrey, 2003-09-13 15:16:18 PST
>
>>Which is it, Terry? Either you are assured that I use an Amiga or
>>you are not. Pick one. You can't have it both ways.
>
> The one doing the assuring, based on no evidence at all except your
> past record, was you. I wasn't being assured on that basis, the
> action was on your part alone. Do you need some help parsing that?
No but it seems you do. If I was assuring you then obviously you were assured.
Your choice of words, not mine.
> And that's "used" not "use" or "using".
Ah, so now I have to send you bi-minutely Amiga usage reports to satisfy your
Ego?? Get a life, TrollBoy!
>>No Gary, I don't, all I know is that you have done everything
>>under the sun to avoid posting from it.
You are speaking on my behalf now? Hint: get your newsreader's attribution fixed!
You still haven't given me one reason, good or otherwise, to post from my Amiga.
And even when I did so (on multiple occations from multiple Amigas using a variety
of news software) it proved rather effectively that you were incapable of noticing
any difference - I.E. *you* proved that posting from an Amiga is completely and
utterly meaningless, even to yourself.
>>It always has been a "zero point" exercise. Despite my many, many
>>requests asking you to explain what benefit I could possibly gain
>>by posting from my Amiga, you have yet to answer. If you don't
>>know then who does?? Not me.
>
> Maybe some credibility that you are actually telling the truth to
> balance off all of your decidely goofy actions for the last year.
Is that non-sentence supposed to have some connection with what I said in any way?
Because it doesn't. Maybe your newsreader garbled that too.
BTW, given your track record, you are completely, utterly, and totally unqualified
to be judging credibility, honesty, and goofy behaviour!!
>>Gawd but you're thick!! I DON'T LIKE YOUR MALICIOUS LIES AND
>>ABUSE. How many times must I say it??
>
> That never stopped you from posting all of your abuse and crap. So
> it's another case of do what I say not what I've done.
The difference being that YOU HAVE EARNED IT!
>>You ranted and raved and went off on Steve over his take on
>>Amithlon, H&P and so on and then casually suggest to Sam that he
>>can have Amithlon by ordering it from H&P. That is a complete
>>reversal of your high and mighty declarations and condemnations.
Again, I said none of this. Those are YOUR words, not mine.
> Deal with that set of facts.
What facts? All I see is more of TerryTroll's typical fabricated malicious lies.
The best way to "deal" with bullshit like that is to expose you as the pathetic
slimy weasel troll that you are.
>>> Why don't you go and get Mommy to wipe your mouth.
>
>>TerryTroll chooses the least mature response imaginable. <heavy
>>sarcasm>What a suprise!</heavy sarcasm>
>
> You are frothing potty mouthed spew. Go get it wiped off your
> chinny chin chin.
Grow up, WeaselBoy!
> As if calling you on an apparent reversal of a high and mighty
> moral position unsupported by anything except undocumented claims
> is a malicious attack. Get out your dictionary young man.
This is what it says:
slimy adj. -Consisting of or resembling slime. Covered with or exuding slime.
Vile; foul
weasel n. -A person regarded as sneaky or treacherous.
liar n. -One that tells lies.
troll n. -An individual who chronically trolls;
regularly posts specious arguments, flames or personal attacks to a
newsgroup, discussion list, or in email for no other purpose than to
annoy someone or disrupt a discussion.
honesty n. -Something that Terry Palfrey lacks in abundance.
>>What part of "You've EARNED it!!!" don't you understand?
>
> Earned?
earn v. -To acquire or deserve as a result of effort or action.
> Who's the more likely suspect, someone so out
> of control he imitates the writing style of someone universally
> condemned
That would be you...
> or someone who only gets attacked by trolls he asks for
> proof?
And that would be you as well. So the answer to "Who's the more likely suspect?"
is obviously 'TerryTroll Palfrey'. Like I said.
>>> Sure you do, go read what you've written in the last year and
>>> then go to the source posts and see how badly you've
>>> overreacted.
>
>>You being the "source"??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Wow, your Ego
>>seems to have taken over again. It must be nice to have Mr. Ego
>>to protect you from the awful truth.
>
> The source being the actual posts
Ah, so you want me to "go read what [I've] written" (i.e the actual posts) and
compare that to the actual posts. I see. Perfect Palfrey Logik at its finest.
>>Think again. Having my Amigas online has most assuredly NOT made
>>you any less of an infantile, low-life, mealymouthed, lying
>>asshole!
>
> If that were true
It is, trust me! If anything you've gotten much worse lately.
> it may however be indicative of why you aren't
> pushing that nonsense about fascist dictators taking over public
> newsgroups and denying you the "right" to post.
Wannabe. You haven't succeeded yet. Aren't likely to.
> You keep making claims that you can't back up.
Such as? (Again, please refrain from your usual fabricated bullshit)
>>Don't be so modest, TerryTroll. Nobody can hold a candle to your
>>dominant reign! (And BTW, you posting from your Amiga certainly
>>hasn't lessened your queen-troll stature one little bit)
>
> Not posting from yours hasn't cleared your record chicken little.
What record would that be, TrollBoy?
> Now about keeping the motherboard based ram on your A4000 which is
> a machine you actually know something about...why did you?
??? Yet another question from way out in left field. Desperate to change the
subject again, TrollBoy? If you ever actually *did* anything with your Amiga you
would know that you can never have too much RAM, especially given the lack of
page-swapping and the memory limitaions inherent in the Amiga platform. Any other
stupid questions?
--
Gary Beeton
tpalfrey
>"tpalfrey" <tpal...@zool.com> wrote in
news:s6.Y6.SR2rFA...@zool.com:
>>Now about keeping the motherboard based ram on your A4000 which
>>is a machine you actually know something about...why did you?
>??? Yet another question from way out in left field.
This is comp.sys.amiga.advocacy.
>Desperate to change the subject again, TrollBoy?
Ooops, sorry, I forgot you are just a troll.
>If you ever actually *did* anything with your Amiga you would
>know that you can never have too much RAM, especially given the
>lack of page-swapping and the memory limitaions inherent in the
>Amiga platform.
Gosh, what about VM? You know, the program.
As for memory:
12:0:Workbench:> avail
Type Available In-Use Maximum Largest
chip 1924168 168888 2093056 1914384
fast 240465240 27970216 268435456 134217696
total 242389408 28139104 270528512 134217696
I don't have that many problems.
>Any other stupid questions?
Lots and lots and lots. Now we know that you would keep the
motherboard ram despite having an accelerator we can judge your
expertise that much better.
tpalfrey
>"tpalfrey" <tpal...@zool.com> wrote in
>news:s6.Y6.SR2rFA...@zool.com:
>> "Gary Beeton" writes:
>>>I happen to believe the truth of the matter, not your malicious
>>>bullshit.
>> Tough, you got caught.
>I got caught exposing your malicious lies.
Baloney, I simply showed you up for the hypocrite you are. On the
one hand it was jihad over Steve about Amithlon and H&P against me
for not agreeing with you about him being bad for the Amiga
community and then you posted your "innocuous" direction to Sam
about where he could obtain Amithlon.
The fact that he hasn't been back since shows how obnoxious you've
become.
>>>No, Terry. You're trolling again. Back to the topic at hand -
>>>we were discussing your compulsive lying disorder. Remember?
>>>Try to stay focused.
>>Actually Gary we were discussing your lack of ethics and your
>>self imposed martyrdom:
>More of your pathological lies.
I don't think so, all I did was ask for simple proof of Amiga
currency way back when and everything you have done or said in this
group has followed from that.
You claim to be the victim.
>Seek psychiatric help, Terry. Maybe they can help you before you
>grow up and become a burden on society.
Now you are a Doctor? Try getting someone to examine the last year
and half of postings you've made, from the delusions to the potty
mouthed spew.
>> I don't have to lie about anything
>They why do you do it?
Gary, you are being silly. I didn't lie about anything, I asked
whether or not your ethical meter was broken. Everything else
flowed from that.
>>>Well, DUH! You maliciously slander me in a public forum for no
>>>reason other than your petty spite and then expect me not to be
>>>offended??? Get real, TrollBoy!
>>So calling me Mr. Anonymous, a fascist dictator and every name
>>in the book isn't slander?
>Not when you've earned it.
Ah, I can earn this abuse and you aren't responsible for your own
words. Excellent, now we have the rules straight.
(And remember, it's 'fascist dictatorWANNABE' - you
>haven't succeeded yet)
Gary, we've been over your revisionist tendencies.
>> Asking you for proof of your Amiga currency is malicious
>> slander?
>No, but re-writing my words to suit your sadistic agenda
>certainly is.
You must lie awake at nights over your chicken little phase
postings then.
>Example follows:
>> You gave advice that was the
>> equivalent of a 180 degree shift in your previous position, in
>> comp.sys.amiga.advocacy, and you deny that you are trolling or
>> that you got caught.
>There, now THAT is malicious slander!
That's the simple facts trollboy.
>>>http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8
>>>&safe=off&selm=vm75p8qo5guc7a%40corp.supernews.com
>>>"...despite assuring us that you indeed had and used an
>>>Amiga..."
>>> -Terry Palfrey, 2003-09-13 15:16:18 PST
>>>Which is it, Terry? Either you are assured that I use an Amiga
>>>or you are not. Pick one. You can't have it both ways.
>> The one doing the assuring, based on no evidence at all except
>> your past record, was you. I wasn't being assured on that
>> basis, the action was on your part alone. Do you need some help
>> parsing that?
>No but it seems you do. If I was assuring you then obviously you
>were assured.
Gary, you are delusional again, I said that you were doing the
assuring and that that wasn't enough, proof of currency was needed.
>Your choice of words, not mine.
That's right Gary, however it doesn't matter what I say you
deliberately do not get it.
>> And that's "used" not "use" or "using".
>Ah, so now I have to send you bi-minutely Amiga usage reports to
>satisfy your Ego?? Get a life, TrollBoy!
Nice misdirection, but then again what else can we expect from you.
One posting from an Amiga based newsreader with the results of
"WhichAmiga" is the bar you have to reach.
No one has denied your "past" record of having and using Amigas.
That's all in your head.
No one has denied your expertise, as far as it goes, with Amigas.
No one can take that from you.
What is at issue, and always has been since you got started on your
present troll path is simply "currency". No assurances will serve
to allay the suspicion that you no longer have or use an Amiga
until you meet the condition of posting from an Amigan newsreader
with the results of "whichamiga" included in the body of the post.
And no, the sophistry of posting through google doesn't cut it
either.
And no you don't have any obligation to do this.
But then again I don't have any obligation to believe what you
"say".
>>>No Gary, I don't, all I know is that you have done everything
>>>under the sun to avoid posting from it.
>You are speaking on my behalf now? Hint: get your newsreader's
>attribution fixed!
Whatever, don't play stupid.
>You still haven't given me one reason, good or otherwise, to post
>from my Amiga.
Okay, so you have no ability to convince me that your Amigas are in
use or that you even still have them.
>And even when I did so (on multiple occations from multiple
>Amigas using a variety of news software) it proved rather
>effectively that you were incapable of noticing any difference -
>I.E. *you* proved that posting from an Amiga is completely and
>utterly meaningless, even to yourself.
Feel completely free to make a fool of me by posting the url of
those posts that I completely missed.
I can't imagine how I missed you posting from an "Amiga" with
either showconfig or whichamiga results included.
In the future when you are humiliating me about my test, please
don't scrimp on including the whole of it instead of your simple
and totally misdirecting interpretation.
Gee Gary, that would be like putting words in my mouth in reverse,
you know, like leaving out the context of what I said.
>>>It always has been a "zero point" exercise. Despite my many,
>>>many requests asking you to explain what benefit I could
>>>possibly gain by posting from my Amiga, you have yet to
>>>answer. If you don't know then who does?? Not me.
>> Maybe some credibility that you are actually telling the truth
>> to balance off all of your decidely goofy actions for the last
>> year.
>Is that non-sentence supposed to have some connection with what I
>said in any way? Because it doesn't. Maybe your newsreader
>garbled that too.
At least it is an Amigan newsreader.
You get out of my posts what you can bring to them. In your case
we've seen the results.
>BTW, given your track record, you are completely, utterly, and
>totally unqualified to be judging credibility, honesty, and goofy
>behaviour!!
At least from your sorry assed troll perspective.
>>>Gawd but you're thick!! I DON'T LIKE YOUR MALICIOUS LIES AND
>>>ABUSE. How many times must I say it??
Just apologize for your chicken little phase, your irrational
behaviour and potty mouthed spew and I won't have to point out the
inconsistencies that riddle your trolling.
>> That never stopped you from posting all of your abuse and crap.
>> So it's another case of do what I say not what I've done.
>The difference being that YOU HAVE EARNED IT!
Sorry Gary, I asked for some simple proof and you have been
deranged ever since.
>>>You ranted and raved and went off on Steve over his take on
>>>Amithlon, H&P and so on and then casually suggest to Sam that
>>>he can have Amithlon by ordering it from H&P. That is a
>>>complete reversal of your high and mighty declarations and
>>>condemnations.
>Again, I said none of this. Those are YOUR words, not mine.
That's right Gary, I certainly do not speak for you, that's up to
you and the little voices from your monitor and plants.
You ranted and raved at Steve calling him an anti- Amigan
terrorist. You called down H&P over their treatment of Meyer.
I can imagine why you are so pissed after having bought Amithlon
and now find it useless to you.
>> Deal with that set of facts.
>What facts? All I see is more of TerryTroll's typical fabricated
>malicious lies.
Observations trollboy, based on your postings.
>The best way to "deal" with bullshit like that is to expose you
>as the pathetic slimy weasel troll that you are.
Because if everyone looked at what you were up to you would be
caught.
>>>> Why don't you go and get Mommy to wipe your mouth.
>>>TerryTroll chooses the least mature response imaginable. <heavy
>>>sarcasm>What a suprise!</heavy sarcasm>
>> You are frothing potty mouthed spew. Go get it wiped off your
>> chinny chin chin.
>Grow up, WeaselBoy!
QUIT TALKING TO YOURSELF YOU DELUSIONAL TROLL!!!!!!
>> As if calling you on an apparent reversal of a high and mighty
>> moral position unsupported by anything except undocumented
>> claims is a malicious attack. Get out your dictionary young
>> man.
>> Who's the more likely suspect, someone so out of control he
>> imitates the writing style of someone universally condemned
>That would be you...
Yes, Gary, that would be you.
>> or someone who only gets attacked by trolls he asks for proof?
>And that would be you as well. So the answer to "Who's the more
>likely suspect?" is obviously 'TerryTroll Palfrey'. Like I said.
That's right Gary, it would be you.
>>>> Sure you do, go read what you've written in the last year and
>>>> then go to the source posts and see how badly you've
>>>> overreacted.
>>>You being the "source"??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Wow, your
>>>Ego seems to have taken over again. It must be nice to have Mr.
>>>Ego to protect you from the awful truth.
>> The source being the actual posts
>Ah, so you want me to "go read what [I've] written" (i.e the
>actual posts) and compare that to the actual posts. I see.
>Perfect Palfrey Logik at its finest.
That's right Gary, I want you to go back to where it all started
and reread your pathetic posts that fell flat on their face until
you reversed your tactics and simply mirrored my superior
methodology back which has allowed you to live in denial for over a
year. You are the victim, boo hoo.
>>>Think again. Having my Amigas online has most assuredly NOT
>>>made you any less of an infantile, low-life, mealymouthed,
>>>lying asshole!
>> If that were true
>It is, trust me! If anything you've gotten much worse lately.
Heh, and there we have the crux of the matter, trust. Trust and
Gary Beeton are anathema.
>> it may however be indicative of why you aren't pushing that
>> nonsense about fascist dictators taking over public newsgroups
>> and denying you the "right" to post.
>Wannabe. You haven't succeeded yet. Aren't likely to.
Your cheap tactic of revisionism does not make your strident
chicken little phase disappear nor does it excuse it.
>> You keep making claims that you can't back up.
>Such as? (Again, please refrain from your usual fabricated
>bullshit)
That you have and use Amigas.
>>>Don't be so modest, TerryTroll. Nobody can hold a candle to
>>>your dominant reign! (And BTW, you posting from your Amiga
>>>certainly hasn't lessened your queen-troll stature one little
>>>bit)
>> Not posting from yours hasn't cleared your record chicken
>> little.
>What record would that be, TrollBoy?
Being a pointy headed troll.
Gary Beeton
news:P2.L2.UR2NLg...@zool.com:
> "Gary Beeton" writes:
>
>>??? Yet another question from way out in left field.
>
> This is comp.sys.amiga.advocacy.
Indeed it is. That's never prevented you from doing anything BUT
advocate the Amiga in the past. What's with the sudden about-face?
Trying to divert attention away from your malicious trolling
perchance? I noticed you snipped all the bits out which questioned
that behaviour. Curious that!
>>If you ever actually *did* anything with your Amiga you would
>>know that you can never have too much RAM, especially given the
>>lack of page-swapping and the memory limitaions inherent in the
>>Amiga platform.
>
> Gosh, what about VM? You know, the program.
1) It's a hack. All reports suggest that it is less than reliable.
2) "Spinning memory" (to use Steve's vernacular) compromises
performance very badly. Ex.: Large image 90 deg. rotation in
ImageFX using sufficient RAM ~1 minute. Same image 90 deg. rotation
in ImageFX using VM ~1 day.
> I don't have that many problems.
That's because you don't DO anything with your Amiga that requires
buckets of memory. DUH!
>>Any other stupid questions?
>
> Lots and lots and lots.
No doubt!
--
Gary Beeton
Gary Beeton
news:q3.m3.VR2L8A...@zool.com:
> "Gary Beeton" writes:
>
>>I got caught exposing your malicious lies.
>
> Baloney
Lies, baloney, bullshit - it all amounts to the same thing: You are an
infantile, slimy, mealymouthed, lying asshole.
> The fact that he hasn't been back since shows how obnoxious you've
> become.
We were having a nice discussion relating to Amiga advocacy before
PalfreyWeasel showed his ugly troll face. That's when Sam disappeared.
I don't blame him.
>>More of your pathological lies.
>
> I don't think so
Don't just take my word for it, go see a psychiatrist.
>>Seek psychiatric help, Terry. Maybe they can help you before you
>>grow up and become a burden on society.
>
> Now you are a Doctor?
No, that's why I recommended you see one.
>>> I don't have to lie about anything
>
>>They why do you do it?
>
> Gary, you are being silly. I didn't lie about anything.
You're doing it again, WeaselBoy. SEEK PROFESSIONAL HELP. SOON!
>>>So calling me Mr. Anonymous, a fascist dictator and every name
>>>in the book isn't slander?
>
>>Not when you've earned it.
>
> Ah, I can earn this abuse and you aren't responsible for your own
> words.
More PalfreyWeasel Logik at work. I have never denied being
responsible for my own words. You REALLY ARE a low-life, sleazey,
lying scumbag. I stand behind those words!
>> (And remember, it's 'fascist dictatorWANNABE' - you
>>haven't succeeded yet)
>
> Gary, we've been over your revisionist tendencies.
You're thinking of your own tendencies again.
>>No, but re-writing my words to suit your sadistic agenda
>>certainly is.
>
> You must lie awake at nights over your chicken little phase
> postings then.
Me?? Lie awake over a smelly little pissant prick like you??
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! In your dreams, WeaselBreath.
BTW, I noticed you were unable to deny that you re-write my words to
suit your sadistic agenda.
>>Example follows:
>
>>> You gave advice that was the
>>> equivalent of a 180 degree shift in your previous position, in
>>> comp.sys.amiga.advocacy, and you deny that you are trolling or
>>> that you got caught.
>
>>There, now THAT is malicious slander!
>
> That's the simple facts trollboy.
Seek psychiatric help before your lies gets you in serious trouble.
>>No but it seems you do. If I was assuring you then obviously you
>>were assured.
>
> Gary, you are delusional again, I said that you were doing the
> assuring and that that wasn't enough
You said that I had assured you. If I had assured you then you were
assured. If you were not assured then I did not assure you. QED.
Please make up your mind. Either I assured you, or were you lying when
you said that I did. Pick one.
>>Your choice of words, not mine.
>
> That's right Gary, however it doesn't matter what I say you
> deliberately do not get it.
No, that's your ploy, TerryTroll. The reason I don't get what you say
is more obvious - your writing is gibberish.
> One posting from an Amiga based newsreader with the results of
> "WhichAmiga" is the bar you have to reach.
You have yet to explain why I would want to, let alone need to.
> No one has denied your "past" record of having and using Amigas.
> That's all in your head.
>
> No one has denied your expertise, as far as it goes, with Amigas.
>
> No one can take that from you.
Wow, talk about your revisionism!
> What is at issue, and always has been since you got started on your
> present troll path is simply "currency".
Actually, we were discussing your pathlogical lying, your sleazey
malicious attacks, and your pathetic trolling, but for some reason you
keep changing the subject.
>>You still haven't given me one reason, good or otherwise, to post
>>from my Amiga.
>
> Okay, so you have no ability to convince me that your Amigas are in
> use or that you even still have them.
What difference does it make what I do. I could walk up to you and
bash you over the head with my Amiga and you still wouldn't acknowledge
it. It doesn't suit your malicious agenda to acknowledge all of the
facts and evidence that I have been bashing you over the head with.
You will continue to be an obdurate moron until your dying breath. So
I ask again, what's in it for me to post from my Amiga?
>>And even when I did so (on multiple occations from multiple
>>Amigas using a variety of news software) it proved rather
>>effectively that you were incapable of noticing any difference -
>>I.E. *you* proved that posting from an Amiga is completely and
>>utterly meaningless, even to yourself.
>
> Feel completely free to make a fool of me by posting the url of
> those posts that I completely missed.
You are perfectly capable of making a fool of yourself without any help
from me whatsoever. We've been over this many, many times in the past.
You didn't want to acknowledge those URLs in the past and you're not
any more likely to do so now. So why should I bother? If you really
wanted to see them you could easlily look them up for yourself. But
you don't and you won't because then you would have to admit that you
have been trolling all this long time, and you will never allow that to
happen, no matter how foolish you make yourself look in the process.
Feel free to prove me wrong.
> I can't imagine how I missed you posting from an "Amiga"
I can. It happened. On multiple occations. You missed them all. How
foolish does that make you look!
> In the future when you are humiliating me about my test, please
> don't scrimp on including the whole of it instead of your simple
> and totally misdirecting interpretation.
Like I said before, you don't need my help to humiliate yourself.
> Gee Gary, that would be like putting words in my mouth in reverse,
> you know, like leaving out the context of what I said.
Gee TerryTroll, like, when have you ever *included* any content in
anything you've said?
> At least it is an Amigan newsreader.
BTW, your newsreader still isn't ROT13ing your from address like your
sig says it is supposed to be doing.
>>>>Gawd but you're thick!! I DON'T LIKE YOUR MALICIOUS LIES AND
>>>>ABUSE. How many times must I say it??
>
> Just apologize for your chicken little phase, your irrational
> behaviour and potty mouthed spew and I won't have to point out the
> inconsistencies that riddle your trolling.
You first. Apologize for your malicious lies and slander against me.
Then apologize to c.s.a.a for wasting their time with all your
trolling.
BTW, "chicken little" is YOUR phrase. I've never used it. Go look it
up (if you are capable).
>>> That never stopped you from posting all of your abuse and crap.
>>> So it's another case of do what I say not what I've done.
>
>>The difference being that YOU HAVE EARNED IT!
>
> Sorry Gary, I asked for some simple proof and you have been
> deranged ever since.
See what I mean about you earning it!
>>>>You ranted and raved and went off on Steve over his take on
>>>>Amithlon, H&P and so on and then casually suggest to Sam that
>>>>he can have Amithlon by ordering it from H&P. That is a
>>>>complete reversal of your high and mighty declarations and
>>>>condemnations.
>
>>Again, I said none of this. Those are YOUR words, not mine.
>
> That's right Gary, I certainly do not speak for you
Then please fix the attribution of your newsreader.
> You ranted and raved at Steve calling him an anti- Amigan
> terrorist. You called down H&P over their treatment of Meyer.
As any good Amigan would. And did.
> I can imagine why you are so pissed after having bought Amithlon
> and now find it useless to you.
I don't like to see Amigans and Amiga users treated poorly or taken
advantage of. That happens to be exactly the same reason I give you
and Steve a hard time.
>>> Deal with that set of facts.
>
>>What facts? All I see is more of TerryTroll's typical fabricated
>>malicious lies.
>
> Observations trollboy, based on your postings.
Fabricated malicious lies, as is plain for all to see. You're not
fooling anybody, not even yourself.
>>The best way to "deal" with bullshit like that is to expose you
>>as the pathetic slimy weasel troll that you are.
>
> Because if everyone looked at what you were up to you would be
> caught.
Caught exposing you as the pathetic slimy weasel troll that you are.
>>> You are frothing potty mouthed spew. Go get it wiped off your
>>> chinny chin chin.
>
>>Grow up, WeaselBoy!
>
> QUIT TALKING TO YOURSELF YOU DELUSIONAL TROLL!!!!!!
You aren't doing yourself any favours here, TerryTroll. Grow up!
>>So the answer to "Who's the more
>>likely suspect?" is obviously 'TerryTroll Palfrey'. Like I said.
>
> That's right Gary
I'm glad we have that cleared up (as if there was ever any doubt!)
>>Ah, so you want me to "go read what [I've] written" (i.e the
>>actual posts) and compare that to the actual posts. I see.
>>Perfect Palfrey Logik at its finest.
>
> That's right Gary
Okay. I have compare the actual posts with the actual posts and they
are perfectly consistent with each other. Again, thanks for clearing
that up!
>>It is, trust me! If anything you've gotten much worse lately.
>
> Heh, and there we have the crux of the matter, trust. Trust and
> Gary Beeton are anathema.
If you're going to slinging mud, TerryTroll, at least try to make the
insults make a little sense. I don't think "anathema" is quite the
word you were groping for here (unless you think that the word "trust"
is cursed or damned, along with myself). "Antithesis" perhaps?
>>> it may however be indicative of why you aren't pushing that
>>> nonsense about fascist dictators taking over public newsgroups
>>> and denying you the "right" to post.
>
>>Wannabe. You haven't succeeded yet. Aren't likely to.
>
> Your cheap tactic of revisionism does not make your strident
> chicken little phase disappear nor does it excuse it.
Your cheap tactic of revisionism does not make your dictatorwannabe
behaviour disappear nor does it excuse it.
>>> You keep making claims that you can't back up.
>
>>Such as? (Again, please refrain from your usual fabricated
>>bullshit)
>
> That you have and use Amigas.
Proven over and over and over again. If you weren't so bent on your
malicious agendas you would have no problem acknowledging that fact.
>>> Not posting from yours hasn't cleared your record chicken
>>> little.
>
>>What record would that be, TrollBoy?
>
> Being a pointy headed troll.
Not only is that not a "record", TerryTroll, but it isn't true either.
But since when have you ever let little things like proper grammar or
the truth get in the way of a good rant!
--
Gary Beeton
tpalfrey
>"tpalfrey" <tpal...@zool.com> wrote in
>news:q3.m3.VR2L8A...@zool.com:
>> "Gary Beeton" writes:
>>>I got caught exposing your malicious lies.
>> Baloney
>Lies, baloney, bullshit - it all amounts to the same thing: You
>are an infantile, slimy, mealymouthed, lying asshole.
Enough about you, why don't you just stop doing that stuff and act
normal.
>> The fact that he hasn't been back since shows how obnoxious
>> you've become.
>We were having a nice discussion relating to Amiga advocacy
>before PalfreyWeasel showed his ugly troll face.
Which discussion Gary, the one that goes on in your head or the one
you have with your monitor faeries?
>That's when Sam disappeared. I don't blame him.
Sam lamented the fact that anyone with any ethics could no longer
get Amithlon.
>>>More of your pathological lies.
>> I don't think so
>Don't just take my word for it, go see a psychiatrist.
Gary, please, take a pill and slow it down.
>>>Seek psychiatric help, Terry. Maybe they can help you before
>>>you grow up and become a burden on society.
>> Now you are a Doctor?
>No, that's why I recommended you see one.
I think you need to be a doctor to make a referral.
>>>> I don't have to lie about anything
>>>They why do you do it?
>> Gary, you are being silly. I didn't lie about anything.
>You're doing it again, WeaselBoy. SEEK PROFESSIONAL HELP. SOON!
Gary, you need to settle down and breathe.
>>>>So calling me Mr. Anonymous, a fascist dictator and every
>>>>name in the book isn't slander?
>>>Not when you've earned it.
>> Ah, I can earn this abuse and you aren't responsible for your
>> own words.
>More PalfreyWeasel Logik at work. I have never denied being
>responsible for my own words. You REALLY ARE a low-life, sleazey,
>lying scumbag. I stand behind those words!
And they remain slander. You do know that even truth is not a
defence in such a charge as motivation is the key. You are unable
to dodge the challenge about posting the results of whichamiga from
an Amigan newsreader and have constructed a fantasy world of
fascism, castes and dictators to hide behind.
>>> (And remember, it's 'fascist dictatorWANNABE' - you
>>>haven't succeeded yet)
>> Gary, we've been over your revisionist tendencies.
>You're thinking of your own tendencies again.
Yes, Gary, your prediliction for rewriting history, for misleading
people and for denying the facts.
>>>No, but re-writing my words to suit your sadistic agenda
>>>certainly is.
>> You must lie awake at nights over your chicken little phase
>> postings then.
>Me?? Lie awake over a smelly little pissant prick like you??
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! In your dreams, WeaselBreath.
You can run but you cannot hide.
You were the first to rewrite my words to make it look like I was
admitting to something that I wasn't.
>BTW, I noticed you were unable to deny that you re-write my words
>to suit your sadistic agenda.
Absolutely denied.
>>>Example follows:
>>>> You gave advice that was the
>>>> equivalent of a 180 degree shift in your previous position,
>>>> in comp.sys.amiga.advocacy, and you deny that you are
>>>> trolling or that you got caught.
>>>There, now THAT is malicious slander!
>> That's the simple facts trollboy.
>Seek psychiatric help before your lies gets you in serious
>trouble.
Sorry, you went to great lengths to make sure your opinion about
Steve's position was heard in no uncertain terms. You have stated
that your copy of Amithlon is shelved on principle, that's what, a
hundred dollar statement?
And then, out of the blue, you seek to advise someone without any
of the previous background being mentioned that Amithlon was
available from H&P, not to mention various retailers.
How is it that you explain that anyone reading CSAA on any regular
basis wouldn't know about Amithlon?
How is it that you only accept one explanation for Sam's words and
cannot entertain an alternative such as it being a lament about the
whole sordid situation that sees H&P continue to sell Amithlon
though Bernd has removed their rights to do so and Bernd & Amiga
Inc. are stopped dead in their tracks by H&P from selling
AmithlonII?
You really need to seek help. You are in total denial.
>>>No but it seems you do. If I was assuring you then obviously
>>>you were assured.
>> Gary, you are delusional again, I said that you were doing the
>> assuring and that that wasn't enough
>You said that I had assured you. If I had assured you then you
>were assured. If you were not assured then I did not assure you.
>QED. Please make up your mind. Either I assured you, or were
>you lying when you said that I did. Pick one.
More of your ingenuous sophistry.
No Gary, the assuring was done by you, I wasn't assured. Is that
too hard to grasp. Your statements are not backed up by proof, we
only have your word about your Amiga currency which is simply not
good enough.
>>>Your choice of words, not mine.
>> That's right Gary, however it doesn't matter what I say you
>> deliberately do not get it.
>No, that's your ploy, TerryTroll. The reason I don't get what you
>say is more obvious - your writing is gibberish.
Especially when you cannot answer it in your usual manner and have
to snip it to get around it.
>> One posting from an Amiga based newsreader with the results of
>> "WhichAmiga" is the bar you have to reach.
>You have yet to explain why I would want to, let alone need to.
You do not need to do this. You might want to however to show that
you are not a complete fraud.
>> No one has denied your "past" record of having and using Amigas.
>> That's all in your head.
>> No one has denied your expertise, as far as it goes, with
>> Amigas.
>> No one can take that from you.
>Wow, talk about your revisionism!
What is at issue is the currency of your Amiga use. You were down
to one program and a dozen excuses about why your couldn't use it
for anything else and how it was far too much effort, 301 seconds
or something, to hook the cable connection back in to your Hydra.
You want us to believe that you bought AmithlonI instead of waiting
for AmithlonII despite the information in the public sphere. This
when you have a Pentium based machine. Yet you won't even reveal
the date of this purchase and cut out the timeline and documents I
offered so that you could make your case.
And on top of that you claim to run UAe but can't prove it with a
cursory post from it via Newscoaster.
>> What is at issue, and always has been since you got started on
>> your present troll path is simply "currency".
>Actually, we were discussing your pathlogical lying, your sleazey
>malicious attacks, and your pathetic trolling, but for some reason
>you keep changing the subject.
Do you currently use an internet capable Amiga or not?
>>>You still haven't given me one reason, good or otherwise, to
>>>post from my Amiga.
>> Okay, so you have no ability to convince me that your Amigas are
>> in use or that you even still have them.
>What difference does it make what I do.
It's about your credibility.
>I could walk up to you and bash you over the head with my Amiga
>and you still wouldn't acknowledge it.
Would your fantasy encounter where you bash me over the head prove
anything other than that you no longer value your Amiga?
Would it show that you use it at all besides in an unprovoked
assault on my person.
All that would show is that you need help desperately for your
mental state. You could sell it and fund a complete clone rather
than try to "brain" me to show that you actually have it. Why go to
such desperate measures that would only point to your condition
rather than simply plugging in your cable connection and shutting
me up.
>It doesn't suit your malicious agenda to acknowledge all of the
>facts and evidence that I have been bashing you over the head
>with. You will continue to be an obdurate moron until your dying
>breath.
Really. There was a simple step you could have taken over a year
ago that you have avoided at all costs to promulgate your self
deluded martrydom in this NG. Yet you continue on with your
ridiculous behaviour.
>So I ask again, what's in it for me to post from my Amiga?
You can't. You don't have one any more.
>>>And even when I did so (on multiple occations from multiple
>>>Amigas using a variety of news software) it proved rather
>>>effectively that you were incapable of noticing any difference
>>>- I.E. *you* proved that posting from an Amiga is completely
>>>and utterly meaningless, even to yourself.
>> Feel completely free to make a fool of me by posting the url of
>> those posts that I completely missed.
>You are perfectly capable of making a fool of yourself without any
>help from me whatsoever. We've been over this many, many times
>in the past. You didn't want to acknowledge those URLs in the
>past and you're not any more likely to do so now. So why should
>I bother? If you really wanted to see them you could easlily
>look them up for yourself. But you don't and you won't because
>then you would have to admit that you have been trolling all this
>long time, and you will never allow that to happen, no matter how
>foolish you make yourself look in the process.
You took the words about you right out of my keyboard. Wow.
>Feel free to prove me wrong.
At any time you are free to point to the post where you posted the
results of your showconfig or from whichamiga to this newsgroup in
the last two years. You cannot, it did not happen.
>> I can't imagine how I missed you posting from an "Amiga"
>I can. It happened. On multiple occations. You missed them all.
>How foolish does that make you look!
You posted from an Amigan newsreader? You included your showconfig
results or whichamiga output? I think not.
>> In the future when you are humiliating me about my test, please
>> don't scrimp on including the whole of it instead of your simple
>> and totally misdirecting interpretation.
>Like I said before, you don't need my help to humiliate yourself.
Gary, you need help. No one is putting you in a caste. You however
are making a fool of yourself.
>> Gee Gary, that would be like putting words in my mouth in
>> reverse, you know, like leaving out the context of what I said.
>Gee TerryTroll, like, when have you ever *included* any content in
>anything you've said?
Ha, all we have to to is look for what you snip.
>> At least it is an Amigan newsreader.
>BTW, your newsreader still isn't ROT13ing your from address like
>your sig says it is supposed to be doing.
Your Amigan newsreader isn't posting to the net.
>>>>>Gawd but you're thick!! I DON'T LIKE YOUR MALICIOUS LIES
>>>>>ABUSE. How many times must I say it??
>> Just apologize for your chicken little phase, your irrational
>> behaviour and potty mouthed spew and I won't have to point out
>> the inconsistencies that riddle your trolling.
>You first. Apologize for your malicious lies and slander against
>me. Then apologize to c.s.a.a for wasting their time with all
>your trolling.
There are no malicious lies and slander. You have created a fantasy
world in which you are a martyr, condemned to a lower caste of some
sort and constantly twitching in response to the voices in your
head.
>BTW, "chicken little" is YOUR phrase. I've never used it. Go
>look it up (if you are capable).
That's right Gary, a real fact, Chicken Little refers to the little
chicken who got bonked on the head by a small object and ran around
from then on declaring that the sky is falling. You might notice a
similarity between that and your actions over that fascist dictator
you ranted on.
>>>> That never stopped you from posting all of your abuse and
>>>> crap. So it's another case of do what I say not what I've
>>>> done.
>>>The difference being that YOU HAVE EARNED IT!
>> Sorry Gary, I asked for some simple proof and you have been
>> deranged ever since.
>See what I mean about you earning it!
Heh, please feel free to read this to your medical practioner when
asking for a professional referral.
>>>>>You ranted and raved and went off on Steve over his take on
>>>>>Amithlon, H&P and so on and then casually suggest to Sam
>>>>>he can have Amithlon by ordering it from H&P. That is a
>>>>>complete reversal of your high and mighty declarations and
>>>>>condemnations.
>>>Again, I said none of this. Those are YOUR words, not mine.
>> That's right Gary, I certainly do not speak for you
>Then please fix the attribution of your newsreader.
Whatever, another distraction instead of facing up to the fact that
you are caught.
>> You ranted and raved at Steve calling him an anti- Amigan
>> terrorist. You called down H&P over their treatment of Meyer.
>As any good Amigan would. And did.
Only in your mind Gary. Please feel free to explain away the
anomalies that I have mentioned again and again. Why is H&P still
distributing Amithlon and Amiga Inc is enjoined from selling
Umilator aka AmithlonII? What's missing from this story?
>> I can imagine why you are so pissed after having bought Amithlon
>> and now find it useless to you.
>I don't like to see Amigans and Amiga users treated poorly or
>taken advantage of. That happens to be exactly the same reason I
>give you and Steve a hard time.
You mean why you slander, defame and libel him? He's earned it
right? Where were you when Amiga Inc axed QNX? Do you think that
the AmigaOne is more NG than say Pegasos?
>>>> You keep making claims that you can't back up.
>>>Such as? (Again, please refrain from your usual fabricated
>>>bullshit)
>> That you have and use Amigas.
>Proven over and over and over again. If you weren't so bent on
>your malicious agendas you would have no problem acknowledging
>that fact.
Had and used Mr. Beeton. No more than that has been proven.
>>>> Not posting from yours hasn't cleared your record chicken
>>>> little.
>>>What record would that be, TrollBoy?
>> Being a pointy headed troll.
>Not only is that not a "record", TerryTroll, but it isn't true
>either. But since when have you ever let little things like
>proper grammar or the truth get in the way of a good rant!
That was a reference you could go and look up.
tpalfrey
>"tpalfrey" <tpal...@zool.com> wrote in
>news:P2.L2.UR2NLg...@zool.com:
>> "Gary Beeton" writes:
>>>??? Yet another question from way out in left field.
>> This is comp.sys.amiga.advocacy.
>Indeed it is. That's never prevented you from doing anything BUT
>advocate the Amiga in the past. What's with the sudden
>about-face? Trying to divert attention away from your malicious
>trolling perchance? I noticed you snipped all the bits out which
>questioned that behaviour. Curious that!
Actually Gary you have the story backwards as usual. I use my Amiga
as my primary machine, that in itself is a statement of monumental
proportion in that I also have a Dual P133 HP Netserver, Duron 800,
Dual PIII and a PIV box running various Windows, Linux and Unix
OS's.
You've only laid claim to having one application that you use on
your Amiga which could easily be run on your UAe setup on your Dell
much faster.
Everything about your claims are in the "past tense" nothing is
current despite what you intimate. You refuse to prove your claims
of current possession and use except to threaten my person. That's
fine of course but don't expect me to rely on what you expound as
fact.
>>>If you ever actually *did* anything with your Amiga you would
>>>know that you can never have too much RAM, especially given
>>>lack of page-swapping and the memory limitaions inherent in
>>>Amiga platform.
>> Gosh, what about VM? You know, the program.
>1) It's a hack. All reports suggest that it is less than
>reliable.
Not claiming any experience like before? What memory limitations
are you saddling the Amiga platform with? Are you now claiming that
the Amiga cannot use 256M or 512M of memory?
>2) "Spinning memory" (to use Steve's vernacular) compromises
>performance very badly. Ex.: Large image 90 deg. rotation in
>ImageFX using sufficient RAM ~1 minute. Same image 90 deg.
>rotation in ImageFX using VM ~1 day.
That's from personal experience is it? We all know that Gary,
didn't you run Win95 with 8-16M of memory? I know what an Amiga did
with that amount.
>> I don't have that many problems.
>That's because you don't DO anything with your Amiga that requires
>buckets of memory. DUH!
I have buckets of memory or can you not parse the information
derived from an avail command?
Type Available In-Use Maximum Largest
chip 1862440 230616 2093056 1860496
fast 242296216 26139240 268435456 134217696
total 244158656 26369856 270528512 134217696
You snipped it because... maybe it doesn't agree with your
worldview?
Wed, 26 Feb 2003 07:30:32 MST
"Not that that helps the Amiga because it's hardware architecture
limits you to a very tiny amount of RAM."
>>>Any other stupid questions?
>> Lots and lots and lots.
>No doubt!
Without the context it makes me look stupid but if we add it back
in and combine it with your take on Amiga ram handling capacity and
capabilities you fall flat on your face.
tpalfrey
>"tpalfrey" <tpal...@zool.com> wrote in
>news:q3.m3.VR2L8A...@zool.com:
>>"Gary Beeton" writes:
>>>It is, trust me! If anything you've gotten much worse lately.
>>Heh, and there we have the crux of the matter, trust. Trust and
>>Gary Beeton are anathema.
>If you're going to slinging mud, TerryTroll, at least try to make
>the insults make a little sense. I don't think "anathema" is
>quite the word you were groping for here (unless you think that
>the word "trust" is cursed or damned, along with myself).
>"Antithesis" perhaps?
Once again the power and flexibility of the english language lies
beyond the simple ken of the pointy headed troll Beeton.
No Gary, I meant anathema when referring to "trust and Gary
Beeton", in the context of you glibly suggesting that you are
worthy of such confidence despite the behaviours you have regularly
demonstrated which guarantee that it is never likely to happen.
On the other hand if I was referring to the all the demonstrations
of your current Amiga possession and use in comparison to Amiga
advocacy I might have used "antithesis" in some form to illuminate
that condition.
Gary Beeton
news:c1.61.WR2fAC...@zool.com:
> "Gary Beeton" writes:
>
>>"tpalfrey" <tpal...@zool.com> wrote in
>>news:P2.L2.UR2NLg...@zool.com:
>
>>> This is comp.sys.amiga.advocacy.
>
>>Indeed it is. That's never prevented you from doing anything BUT
>>advocate the Amiga in the past. What's with the sudden
>>about-face? Trying to divert attention away from your malicious
>>trolling perchance? I noticed you snipped all the bits out which
>>questioned that behaviour. Curious that!
>
> Actually Gary you have the story backwards as usual. I use my Amiga
> as my primary machine
I never accused you of not *using* an Amiga. I accused you of not
*advocating* the Amiga. Big difference.
> You've only laid claim to having one application that you use on
> your Amiga which could easily be run on your UAe setup on your Dell
> much faster.
UAE is an Amiga too. It also happens to be far more reliable than my
hardware based Amiga these days :(
> Everything about your claims are in the "past tense" nothing is
> current despite what you intimate.
No, TerryTroll, that's another one of your PalfreyWeasel inventions.
> You refuse to prove your claims
> of current possession and use
I've given up trying because every time I do you look the other way and
pretend not to see it.
> except to threaten my person.
Oh brother, what a paranoid hypochondriac victimwannabe you are!
> That's
> fine of course but don't expect me to rely on what you expound as
> fact.
Your choice, your loss.
>>> Gosh, what about VM? You know, the program.
>
>>1) It's a hack. All reports suggest that it is less than
>>reliable.
>
> Not claiming any experience like before?
I used it breifly, but reports I read from more experienced users gave
me the willies. Of course I have ImageFX configured to use VM when
necessary, but everybody knows that having sufficient RAM is a far
better solution. Everybody but you, that is.
> What memory limitations
> are you saddling the Amiga platform with?
Are you serious? No VM, no page swapping, no memory protection, 15
year old memory bus architecture, low bandwidth.
> Are you now claiming that
> the Amiga cannot use 256M or 512M of memory?
Mine can't. But even if it could, it would still be saddled with the
above limitations.
>>2) "Spinning memory" (to use Steve's vernacular) compromises
>>performance very badly. Ex.: Large image 90 deg. rotation in
>>ImageFX using sufficient RAM ~1 minute. Same image 90 deg.
>>rotation in ImageFX using VM ~1 day.
>
> That's from personal experience is it?
Yes.
> We all know that Gary,
If you already knew the answer to your stupid question then why did you
ask it? Just to make yourself look foolish?
> didn't you run Win95 with 8-16M of memory? I know what an Amiga did
> with that amount.
PCs have moved on. Unfortunately, Amigas have not.
>>> I don't have that many problems.
>
>>That's because you don't DO anything with your Amiga that requires
>>buckets of memory. DUH!
>
> I have buckets of memory or can you not parse the information
> derived from an avail command?
Once again you fail to comprehend what I said. I didn't accused you of
not *having* buckets of memory. I accused you of not *needing* buckets
of memory. Once again, big difference. Your avail output supports my
accusation.
>>>>Any other stupid questions?
>
>>> Lots and lots and lots.
>
>>No doubt!
>
> Without the context it makes me look stupid
You look just as stupid with the content too!
--
Gary Beeton
Gary Beeton
news:t1.o1.WR2CCq...@zool.com:
> "Gary Beeton" writes:
>
>>"tpalfrey" <tpal...@zool.com> wrote in
>>news:q3.m3.VR2L8A...@zool.com:
>
>>>Trust and Gary Beeton are anathema.
>
>>If you're going to slinging mud, TerryTroll, at least try to make
>>the insults make a little sense. I don't think "anathema" is
>>quite the word you were groping for here (unless you think that
>>the word "trust" is cursed or damned, along with myself).
>>"Antithesis" perhaps?
>
> Once again the power and flexibility of the english language lies
> beyond the simple ken of the pointy headed troll Beeton.
>
> No Gary, I meant anathema
In that case your sentence makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Let's break it down, shall we?
"Trust and Gary Beeton are anathema."
That is exactly equivalent to saying:
"Trust is anathema" and "Gary Beeton is anathema."
If you ignore truth and reality for a moment, I can see how you might
make a cheap insult out of the second part. But what exactly do you
mean by "Trust is anathema"??? Trust is excommunicated?? Trust is
cursed?? Perhaps you should try sticking with cheap insults
consisting of two syllables or less.
--
Gary Beeton
tpalfrey
>"tpalfrey" <tpal...@zool.com> wrote in
>news:t1.o1.WR2CCq...@zool.com:
>> "Gary Beeton" writes:
>>>"tpalfrey" <tpal...@zool.com> wrote in
>>>news:q3.m3.VR2L8A...@zool.com:
>>>>Trust and Gary Beeton are anathema.
>>>If you're going to slinging mud, TerryTroll, at least try to
>>>make the insults make a little sense. I don't think "anathema"
>>>is quite the word you were groping for here (unless you think
>>>that the word "trust" is cursed or damned, along with myself).
>>>"Antithesis" perhaps?
>> Once again the power and flexibility of the english language
>> lies beyond the simple ken of the pointy headed troll Beeton.
>> No Gary, I meant anathema
>In that case your sentence makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
>Let's break it down, shall we?
Let's restore it to context instead.
What you said was:
>>It is, trust me!
And I said, in context as a reply:
>"Trust and Gary Beeton are anathema."
>That is exactly equivalent to saying:
>"Trust is anathema" and "Gary Beeton is anathema."
And no it is not.
>If you ignore truth and reality for a moment, I can see how you
>might make a cheap insult out of the second part. But what
>exactly do you mean by "Trust is anathema"??? Trust is
>excommunicated?? Trust is cursed?? Perhaps you should try
>sticking with cheap insults consisting of two syllables or less.
Once again the power and flexibility of the english language lies
beyond the simple ken of the pointy headed troll Beeton.
No Gary, I meant anathema when referring to "trust and Gary
Beeton", in the context of you glibly suggesting that you are
worthy of such confidence despite the behaviours you have regularly
demonstrated which guarantee that it is never likely to happen.
On the other hand if I was referring to the all the demonstrations
of your current Amiga possession and use in comparison to Amiga
advocacy I might have used "antithesis" in some form to illuminate
that condition.
Snip and snap all you want. Anathema it is. Trusting you I mean.
tpalfrey
>"tpalfrey" <tpal...@zool.com> wrote in
>news:c1.61.WR2fAC...@zool.com:
>> "Gary Beeton" writes:
>>>"tpalfrey" <tpal...@zool.com> wrote in
>>>news:P2.L2.UR2NLg...@zool.com:
>>>> This is comp.sys.amiga.advocacy.
>>>Indeed it is. That's never prevented you from doing anything
>>>BUT advocate the Amiga in the past. What's with the sudden
>>>about-face? Trying to divert attention away from your
>>>malicious trolling perchance? I noticed you snipped all the
>>>bits out which questioned that behaviour. Curious that!
>> Actually Gary you have the story backwards as usual. I use my
>> Amiga as my primary machine
>I never accused you of not *using* an Amiga. I accused you of not
>*advocating* the Amiga. Big difference.
Once again the contextual snip of why using an Amiga as my primary
machine is advocacy in itself, shall we un-snip that part...
:Actually Gary you have the story backwards as usual. I use my
:Amiga as my primary machine, that in itself is a statement of
:monumental proportion in that I also have a Dual P133 HP
:Netserver, Duron 800, Dual PIII and a PIV box running various
:Windows, Linux and Unix OS's.
>> You've only laid claim to having one application that you use on
>> your Amiga which could easily be run on your UAe setup on your
>> Dell much faster.
>UAE is an Amiga too. It also happens to be far more reliable than
>my hardware based Amiga these days :(
So, is it a question of you not being able to post from your Amiga
after all? Take the MB ram out, put in a new PS and check for leaks
on the capacitors.
As for UAe, heh, I trashed it finally, interesting but nothing that
can hold a candle to an actual Amiga.
>> Everything about your claims are in the "past tense" nothing is
>> current despite what you intimate.
>No, TerryTroll, that's another one of your PalfreyWeasel
>inventions.
Point out the URL's then where you have posted from your Amiga
using an Amigan newsreader and verified that with the output of
showconfig or whichamiga. Google posting doesn't count, after all
you claim to have not only UAe running but a Hydra equipped Amiga
in your possession.
>> You refuse to prove your claims of current possession and use
>I've given up trying because every time I do you look the other
>way and pretend not to see it.
Point out those URL's then.
>> except to threaten my person.
>Oh brother, what a paranoid hypochondriac victimwannabe you are!
Did you or did you not threaten to smash it over my head? I didn't
make that up, that's what you typed.
>> That's fine of course but don't expect me to rely on what you
>> expound as fact.
>Your choice, your loss.
What are you going to tell me? How to make a PIV run? How to
connect to the net with a Hydra and MiamiDX? Burn a CD? How about
how to post from UAe. Ooops, gosh, done all that - no help from
you.
>>>> Gosh, what about VM? You know, the program.
>>>1) It's a hack. All reports suggest that it is less than
>>>reliable.
>> Not claiming any experience like before?
>I used it breifly, but reports I read from more experienced users
>gave me the willies. Of course I have ImageFX configured to use
>VM when necessary, but everybody knows that having sufficient RAM
>is a far better solution. Everybody but you, that is.
Don't listen to people. Make it work, I did that with ARP in the
old floppy days. Used a ram disk, three floppies and a meg of ram
to excellent effect. No one else was getting recoverable alerts
that worked.
I also have enough memory to serve my needs.
>> What memory limitations
>> are you saddling the Amiga platform with?
>Are you serious? No VM, no page swapping, no memory protection,
>15 year old memory bus architecture, low bandwidth.
Ah, and here I thought you were talking aobut all Amigas. You
should try a tuned and accelerated CSPPC with 64bit ram.
>> Are you now claiming that
>> the Amiga cannot use 256M or 512M of memory?
>Mine can't. But even if it could, it would still be saddled with
>the above limitations.
Ouch, mine can and is. And VMem works here.
>>>2) "Spinning memory" (to use Steve's vernacular) compromises
>>>performance very badly. Ex.: Large image 90 deg. rotation in
>>>ImageFX using sufficient RAM ~1 minute. Same image 90 deg.
>>>rotation in ImageFX using VM ~1 day.
>> That's from personal experience is it?
>Yes.
Uh, so one image is smaller than your 144M and the other is larger?
Hmm, is that like going from 300DPI printing to 600DPI?
>> We all know that Gary,
>If you already knew the answer to your stupid question then why
>did you ask it? Just to make yourself look foolish?
:You snipped it because... maybe it doesn't agree with your
:worldview?
:Wed, 26 Feb 2003 07:30:32 MST
:"Not that that helps the Amiga because it's hardware
:limits you to a very tiny amount of RAM."
>> didn't you run Win95 with 8-16M of memory? I know what an Amiga
>> did with that amount.
>PCs have moved on. Unfortunately, Amigas have not.
Did you or didn't you use a pc with 8-16M of ram running windows
95?
Are you saying there is a limitation on how much ram an Amiga can
address?
>>>> I don't have that many problems.
>>>That's because you don't DO anything with your Amiga that
>>>requires buckets of memory. DUH!
>> I have buckets of memory or can you not parse the information
>> derived from an avail command?
>Once again you fail to comprehend what I said. I didn't accused
>you of not *having* buckets of memory. I accused you of not
>*needing* buckets of memory. Once again, big difference. Your
>avail output supports my accusation.
There is no current project open on my Amiga, I am only cleaning
drives, doing newsreading, a Pagestream layout and a little
research on the web. Should I get a project going I will bring up
an RRD with my system setup that saves all output every two minutes
from my active applications and proceed in merry fashion on a
nearly decade old system.
>>>>>Any other stupid questions?
>>>> Lots and lots and lots.
>>>No doubt!
>> Without the context it makes me look stupid
>You look just as stupid with the content too!
Context.
:Without the context it makes me look stupid but if we add it back
Aaron Young
whining at each other. koochie koo babys!
Gary Beeton
> "Gary Beeton" writes:
>
>>Lies, baloney, bullshit - it all amounts to the same thing: You
>>are an infantile, slimy, mealymouthed, lying asshole.
>
> Enough about you, why don't you just stop doing that stuff and act
> normal.
You are in denial.
>>We were having a nice discussion relating to Amiga advocacy
>>before PalfreyWeasel showed his ugly troll face.
>
> Which discussion Gary
We were discussing Amigas. PalfreyWeasel then launched a totally fabricated
abusive personal attack upon my person for no other reason than malicious spite.
Even you person you labeled as my "victim" said clearly that your attack was
completely unfounded.
> Sam lamented the fact that anyone with any ethics could no longer
> get Amithlon.
Considering he said nothing of the sort, how would you know? Sounds like
PalfreyWeasel trying to put words into other peoples' mouths again to "support"
his malicious agenda.
>>> Now you are a Doctor?
>
>>No, that's why I recommended you see one.
>
> I think you need to be a doctor to make a referral.
If you are sane then you stand to lose nothing by going to see a phychiatrist.
But just think of what you might stand to gain if you, as all outward appearances
would suggest, are not sane! Can you really afford not to go see one?
>>You're doing it again, WeaselBoy. SEEK PROFESSIONAL HELP. SOON!
>
> Gary, you need to settle down and breathe.
Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure that won't stop you from lying compulsively.
>>More PalfreyWeasel Logik at work. I have never denied being
>>responsible for my own words. You REALLY ARE a low-life, sleazey,
>>lying scumbag. I stand behind those words!
>
> And they remain slander.
As do yours. At least I have truth and honesty on my side. You have only
bullshit on your side, and that won't do you any good in a court of law.
>>You're thinking of your own tendencies again.
>
> Yes, Gary, your prediliction for rewriting history, for misleading
> people and for denying the facts.
Not to mension your infantile tendence to say "I know you are but what am I?"
whenever you are cornered.
>>>>No, but re-writing my words to suit your sadistic agenda
>>>>certainly is.
>
>>> You must lie awake at nights over your chicken little phase
>>> postings then.
>
>>Me?? Lie awake over a smelly little pissant prick like you??
>>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! In your dreams, WeaselBreath.
>
> You can run but you cannot hide.
Unlike you, I am not trying to run or hide.
>>BTW, I noticed you were unable to deny that you re-write my words
>>to suit your sadistic agenda.
>
> Absolutely denied.
Too bad the Google records don't support your baseless assertion.
>>Seek psychiatric help before your lies gets you in serious
>>trouble.
>
> Sorry, you went to great lengths to make sure your opinion about
> Steve's position was heard in no uncertain terms. You have stated
> that your copy of Amithlon is shelved on principle, that's what, a
> hundred dollar statement?
$144.95US, to be exact.
> And then, out of the blue, you seek to advise someone without any
> of the previous background being mentioned that Amithlon was
> available from H&P, not to mention various retailers.
Here's where you begin your malicious inventions, TrollBoy. It wasn't "advise"
and it wasn't "out of the blue". It was a statement of fact made in direct
response to an errant statement. Why do you hate it so much when people post
facts?
> How is it that you explain that anyone reading CSAA on any regular
> basis wouldn't know about Amithlon?
I took him at his word. You should try it some day.
> How is it that you only accept one explanation for Sam's words and
> cannot entertain an alternative such as it being a lament about the
> whole sordid situation that sees H&P continue to sell Amithlon
> though Bernd has removed their rights to do so and Bernd & Amiga
> Inc. are stopped dead in their tracks by H&P from selling
> AmithlonII?
How is it you can read so much into what Sam did not say or imply?
> You really need to seek help. You are in total denial.
You are the one putting words into other peoples' mouths in a pathetic attempt to
pack up your baseless and malicious attack, not me.
>>You said that I had assured you. If I had assured you then you
>>were assured. If you were not assured then I did not assure you.
>>QED. Please make up your mind. Either I assured you, or were
>>you lying when you said that I did. Pick one.
>
> No Gary, the assuring was done by you, I wasn't assured.
Wow, nice contradiction! First you say I assured you, then you say you were not
assured. Which is it, TrollBoy? You can't have it both ways. Pick one.
> Your statements are not backed up by proof, we
> only have your word about your Amiga currency which is simply not
> good enough.
You said you were assured - that's good enough for me. Unless of course you were
lying.
>>The reason I don't get what you
>>say is more obvious - your writing is gibberish.
>
> Especially when you cannot answer it in your usual manner and have
> to snip it to get around it.
Your writing is gibberish no matter how I choose to reply.
>>> One posting from an Amiga based newsreader with the results of
>>> "WhichAmiga" is the bar you have to reach.
>
>>You have yet to explain why I would want to, let alone need to.
>
> You do not need to do this.
You just finished saying that I "have to". Make up your mind.
> You might want to however to show that
> you are not a complete fraud.
I don't think that is necessary. Everybody knows what a low-life, sleazy, lying
asshole the accuser is. The readers of c.s.a.a are too intellegent to fall for
your bullshit.
> What is at issue is the currency of your Amiga use.
Nobody but you cares. Why are you so hung up on this meaningless piece of trivia?
> You were down
> to one program and a dozen excuses about why your couldn't use it
> for anything else and how it was far too much effort, 301 seconds
> or something, to hook the cable connection back in to your Hydra.
"301 seconds"?? "Hydra"?? Aside from these revisionistic blunders of your, you
are essentially correct. But what you fail to convey is the REASON why it is far
too much effort. You are the only person who cares, but you are a worthless
troll. I wouldn't lift a finger to give you the satisfaction of having me
prostrate myself before you over one of your egotistical demands. You aren't
worth it!
> You want us to believe that you bought AmithlonI instead of waiting
> for AmithlonII despite the information in the public sphere.
Why would anybody have any reason not to believe that? Unless that person was
trying to invent yet another conspiracy.
> Yet you won't even reveal the date of this purchase
I have told you over and over and over. What agenda do you have for ramming your
fingers in your ears and singing the "La, la" song?
> And on top of that you claim to run UAe but can't prove it with a
> cursory post from it via Newscoaster.
I have already done so. On numerous occations. Again, what agenda do you have
for sticking your head in the sand and playing dumb?
>>Actually, we were discussing your pathlogical lying, your sleazey
>>malicious attacks, and your pathetic trolling, but for some reason
>>you keep changing the subject.
>
> Do you currently use an internet capable Amiga or not?
Since you insist on changing the subject: Yes I do, as you well know. Two of
them in fact.
>>> Okay, so you have no ability to convince me that your Amigas are
>>> in use or that you even still have them.
>
>>What difference does it make what I do.
>
> It's about your credibility.
Unlike yours, my credibility is just fine.
>>I could walk up to you and bash you over the head with my Amiga
>>and you still wouldn't acknowledge it.
>
> Would your fantasy encounter where you bash me over the head prove
> anything other than that you no longer value your Amiga?
We could make it a clue that I bash you over the head with if you prefer.
> Would it show that you use it at all besides in an unprovoked
> assault on my person.
Provoked. Warranted. Probably even applauded.
> You could sell it and fund a complete clone rather
> than try to "brain" me to show that you actually have it.
1) I don't need another clone.
2) If I sold my Amiga it certainly wouldn't bring anything near enough to "fund a
complete clone"!
3) (You won't understand this as it involves ethics, but here goes anyway) I
refuse to sell my Amiga to anybody because it does not work reliably.
> Why go to
> such desperate measures that would only point to your condition
Because "braining" you would bring joy to so very many people!
> rather than simply plugging in your cable connection and shutting
> me up.
Shutting you up is impossible. You would just invent some other dumb excuse or
some other ridiculous lie or go off on some other ludicrous tangent pretending not
to have seen the proof. PalfreyWeasel SOP.
>>It doesn't suit your malicious agenda to acknowledge all of the
>>facts and evidence that I have been bashing you over the head
>>with. You will continue to be an obdurate moron until your dying
>>breath.
>
> Really.
Really! Just ask your shrink.
>>So I ask again, what's in it for me to post from my Amiga?
>
> You can't. You don't have one any more.
Would this be one of your ridiculous lies or one of your ludicrous tangents? It's
hard to tell them apart sometimes.
>>You are perfectly capable of making a fool of yourself without any
>>help from me whatsoever. We've been over this many, many times
>>in the past. You didn't want to acknowledge those URLs in the
>>past and you're not any more likely to do so now. So why should
>>I bother? If you really wanted to see them you could easlily
>>look them up for yourself. But you don't and you won't because
>>then you would have to admit that you have been trolling all this
>>long time, and you will never allow that to happen, no matter how
>>foolish you make yourself look in the process.
>
> You took the words about you right out of my keyboard. Wow.
PalfreyWeasel denial. Very sad.
>>Feel free to prove me wrong.
>
> At any time you are free to point to the post where you posted the
> results of your showconfig or from whichamiga to this newsgroup in
> the last two years. You cannot, it did not happen.
Ah, so now you have moved the goalposts. Clever dodge, WeaselBreath! But I have
not failed to notice that you were unable to prove me wrong.
>>> I can't imagine how I missed you posting from an "Amiga"
>
>>I can. It happened. On multiple occations. You missed them all.
>>How foolish does that make you look!
>
> You posted from an Amigan newsreader?
Yup. On multiple occations.
> You included your showconfig results or whichamiga output?
Sorry, WeaselBoy, but that was never in the contract (the one that I never
signed).
>>> Gee Gary, that would be like putting words in my mouth in
>>> reverse, you know, like leaving out the context of what I said.
>
>>Gee TerryTroll, like, when have you ever *included* any content in
>>anything you've said?
>
> Ha, all we have to to is look for what you snip.
I've snipped lots of your bullshit. I've snipped lots of your lies. I've snipped
lots of your malicious insults. I've snipped lots of your off-topic diversionary
ploys. I've snipped lots of your muddleheaded gibberish. But I've NEVER snipped
any of your content. I cannot snip that which does not exist!
>>BTW, your newsreader still isn't ROT13ing your from address like
>>your sig says it is supposed to be doing.
>
> Your Amigan newsreader isn't posting to the net.
Yours *shouldn't* be posting to the net. Not until you fix it.
>>Apologize for your malicious lies and slander against
>>me. Then apologize to c.s.a.a for wasting their time with all
>>your trolling.
>
> There are no malicious lies and slander.
There's one malicious lie...
> You have created a fantasy
> world in which you are a martyr,
There's a second malicious lie...
> condemned to a lower caste of some
> sort
That makes three malicious lies...
> and constantly twitching in response to the voices in your
> head.
Four malicious lies and a little slander thrown in for good measure. Well done,
TrollBoy. Are you building up for one REALLY BIG apology?
>>BTW, "chicken little" is YOUR phrase. I've never used it. Go
>>look it up (if you are capable).
>
> That's right Gary, a real fact
I know, TerryTroll, that's why I corrected you.
>>Then please fix the attribution of your newsreader.
>
> Whatever
Look, TrollBoy, your writing "style" (and I use the word loosely) is hard enough
to read as it is without your newsreader mangling things even worse. Please fix
it.
> Why is H&P still distributing Amithlon
Because, like you, they have no moral conscience.
> and Amiga Inc is enjoined from selling
> Umilator aka AmithlonII?
Because, unlike you and H&P, they have a moral conscience.
> What's missing from this story?
Your moral conscience.
>>I don't like to see Amigans and Amiga users treated poorly or
>>taken advantage of. That happens to be exactly the same reason I
>>give you and Steve a hard time.
>
> You mean why you slander, defame and libel him? He's earned it
> right?
Hey, you're catching on!
> Where were you when Amiga Inc axed QNX?
I think I was in the bathroom. What does that have to do with anything?
> Do you think that the AmigaOne is more NG than say Pegasos?
More non sequitur diversionary bullshit! Let's get back to on topic. You were
about to apologize for your malicious lies and slander against me. Then you were
about to apologize to c.s.a.a for wasting their time with all your trolling.
>>> That you have and use Amigas.
>
>>Proven over and over and over again. If you weren't so bent on
>>your malicious agendas you would have no problem acknowledging
>>that fact.
>
> Had and used Mr. Beeton. No more than that has been proven.
Just as soon as I post, say, or do anything it becomes past tense. That's the way
the universe works. Live with it.
--
Gary Beeton
Terry
> 222 341063 <slrnbmshi7...@primefactor.com>
> you are both such little babies! weee! babaies so cute talking and
> whining at each other. koochie koo babys!
Top posting is not used here or at least not for a simple comment
on such a long quote.
So, what's your interest in the Amiga?
Or do you have anything salient to comment on?
Terry
tpalfrey
>"tpalfrey" <tpal...@zool.com> wrote in
>news:31.z0.WR2i9X...@zool.com:
>> "Gary Beeton" writes:
>>>Lies, baloney, bullshit - it all amounts to the same thing:
>>>are an infantile, slimy, mealymouthed, lying asshole.
>> Enough about you, why don't you just stop doing that stuff and
>> act normal.
>You are in denial.
Nope, and it ain't denial, I am sure there is a reasonable and
rational person somewhere in there with your voices.
>>>We were having a nice discussion relating to Amiga advocacy
>>>before PalfreyWeasel showed his ugly troll face.
>> Which discussion Gary
>We were discussing Amigas.
You advised someone they could get Amithlon from H&P?
>PalfreyWeasel then launched a totally fabricated abusive personal
>attack upon my person for no other reason than malicious spite.
You totally did a 180 degree turnabout on an ethical issue.
>Even you person you labeled as my "victim" said clearly that your
>attack was completely unfounded.
Heh, where? Are your voices saying things again?
Who was discussing Amigas? Name that thread and post that URL.
>> Sam lamented the fact that anyone with any ethics could no
>> longer get Amithlon.
>Considering he said nothing of the sort, how would you know?
Anyone with half a brain, that includes pointy headed trolls has
been made well aware of what actually happened to Amithlon via the
various cryings of the parties involved. What we haven't seen is
the actual signed contracts and agreements or the correspondence
between the parties to that point.
Nonetheless it stands as a grounding reef in the water that H&P
continues to distribute Amithlon and Amiga Inc. and Bernd are
estopped from selling AmithlonII. Can you explain that?
But, that's not the issue, back to anyone with half a brain who was
considering the purchase of Amithlon, which is that it has been
broadcast far and wide.
>Sounds like PalfreyWeasel trying to put words into other peoples'
>mouths again to "support" his malicious agenda.
Gary get off your paranoid delusion and look around you.
>>>> Now you are a Doctor?
>>>No, that's why I recommended you see one.
>> I think you need to be a doctor to make a referral.
>If you are sane then you stand to lose nothing by going to see a
>phychiatrist. But just think of what you might stand to gain if
>you, as all outward appearances would suggest, are not sane! Can
>you really afford not to go see one?
Did it help you that much? I think not.
>>>You're doing it again, WeaselBoy. SEEK PROFESSIONAL HELP.
>>>SOON!
>> Gary, you need to settle down and breathe.
>Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure that won't stop you from lying
>compulsively.
I don't need to lie with the way you act.
>>>More PalfreyWeasel Logik at work. I have never denied being
>>>responsible for my own words. You REALLY ARE a low-life,
>>>sleazey, lying scumbag. I stand behind those words!
>> And they remain slander.
>As do yours. At least I have truth and honesty on my side. You
>have only bullshit on your side, and that won't do you any good
>in a court of law.
Heh, I didn't make a stake on the moral highground in the first
place. You did. And any reversal or watering down of that very
public position will attract fair comment.
The fair comment was, "is your ethical meter broken".
Wherever you and Noel took that to after that is entirely on your
plates, you made me explain what you had done with that public
post.
>>>You're thinking of your own tendencies again.
>> Yes, Gary, your prediliction for rewriting history, for
>> misleading people and for denying the facts.
>Not to mension your infantile tendence to say "I know you are but
>what am I?" whenever you are cornered.
First occation and now mension, what's going on here, are you
Gary's other personality?
>>>>>No, but re-writing my words to suit your sadistic agenda
>>>>>certainly is.
>>>> You must lie awake at nights over your chicken little phase
>>>> postings then.
>>>Me?? Lie awake over a smelly little pissant prick like you??
>>>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! In your dreams, WeaselBreath.
>> You can run but you cannot hide.
>Unlike you, I am not trying to run or hide.
Why dodge and bob so much then?
What date did you purchase Amithlon on? When did you last post to
CSAA from your Amiga? Do you still have a hardware Amiga?
>>>BTW, I noticed you were unable to deny that you re-write my
>>>words to suit your sadistic agenda.
>> Absolutely denied.
>Too bad the Google records don't support your baseless assertion.
I don't need to re-write anything, I simply juxtapose what you said
before with what you say now. Seems different. Ooops.
>>>Seek psychiatric help before your lies gets you in serious
>>>trouble.
>> Sorry, you went to great lengths to make sure your opinion about
>> Steve's position was heard in no uncertain terms. You have
>> stated that your copy of Amithlon is shelved on principle,
>> that's what, a hundred dollar statement?
>$144.95US, to be exact.
So, what's with your comment to Sam? Insiders Irony? Why in public
instead of e-mail? Ever going to answer that one or is the trolling
call going to stand?
>> And then, out of the blue, you seek to advise someone without
>> any of the previous background being mentioned that Amithlon was
>> available from H&P, not to mention various retailers.
>Here's where you begin your malicious inventions, TrollBoy.
I think not, CSAA was fallow, you posted into it.
>It wasn't "advise" and it wasn't "out of the blue".
Past tense is "advice". Out of the blue in that you hadn't posted
in days in answer to anything.
>It was a statement of fact made in direct response to an errant
>statement.
Right, and that's your story. Too bad you already made such a huge
huffing and puffing that contrasts very badly with your "statement
of fact".
>Why do you hate it so much when people post facts?
What, because I called a troll on his apparently broken ethical
meter?
>> How is it that you explain that anyone reading CSAA on any
>> regular basis wouldn't know about Amithlon?
>I took him at his word. You should try it some day.
Heh, right Gary, tell me about the A3K again, based on your errant
assumptions. Your more powerful A4K with 16M more of slow
motherboard ram weighing down the WE's 128M.
>> How is it that you only accept one explanation for Sam's words
>> and cannot entertain an alternative such as it being a lament
>> about the whole sordid situation that sees H&P continue to sell
>> Amithlon though Bernd has removed their rights to do so and
>> Bernd & Amiga Inc. are stopped dead in their tracks by H&P from
>> selling AmithlonII?
>How is it you can read so much into what Sam did not say or imply?
I simply asked if your ethical meter was broken.
>> You really need to seek help. You are in total denial.
>You are the one putting words into other peoples' mouths in a
>pathetic attempt to pack up your baseless and malicious attack,
>not me.
It was an observation troll boy. It seemed like your ethical meter
had broken.
>>>You said that I had assured you. If I had assured you then you
>>>were assured. If you were not assured then I did not assure
>>>you. QED. Please make up your mind. Either I assured you, or
>>>were you lying when you said that I did. Pick one.
>> No Gary, the assuring was done by you, I wasn't assured.
>Wow, nice contradiction! First you say I assured you, then you
>say you were not assured. Which is it, TrollBoy? You can't have
>it both ways. Pick one.
Be as slow as you want, you are not a party that I can be assured
by you despite your pathetic attempts to lbluff your way through.
>> Your statements are not backed up by proof, we only have your
>> word about your Amiga currency which is simply not good enough.
>You said you were assured - that's good enough for me. Unless of
>course you were lying.
Post the proof troll boy, shut me up by showing I'm wrong.
>>>The reason I don't get what you say is more obvious - your
>>>writing is gibberish.
>> Especially when you cannot answer it in your usual manner and
>> have to snip it to get around it.
>Your writing is gibberish no matter how I choose to reply.
You get the point troll boy.
>>>> One posting from an Amiga based newsreader with the results
>>>> of "WhichAmiga" is the bar you have to reach.
>>>You have yet to explain why I would want to, let alone need to.
>> You do not need to do this.
>You just finished saying that I "have to". Make up your mind.
Heh, it's your credibility. You make lots of claims about what you
run and have but you haven't proved since you were challenged.
>> You might want to however to show that you are not a complete
>> fraud.
>I don't think that is necessary. Everybody knows what a low-life,
>sleazy, lying asshole the accuser is. The readers of c.s.a.a are
>too intellegent to fall for your bullshit.
Right, just post those message url's.
>> What is at issue is the currency of your Amiga use.
>Nobody but you cares. Why are you so hung up on this meaningless
>piece of trivia?
Because of the implications about your character if it is not true.
>> You were down
>> to one program and a dozen excuses about why your couldn't use
>> it for anything else and how it was far too much effort, 301
>> seconds or something, to hook the cable connection back in to
>> your Hydra.
>"301 seconds"?? "Hydra"?? Aside from these revisionistic
>blunders of your, you are essentially correct. But what you fail
>to convey is the REASON why it is far too much effort. You are
>the only person who cares, but you are a worthless troll. I
>wouldn't lift a finger to give you the satisfaction of having me
>prostrate myself before you over one of your egotistical demands.
>You aren't worth it!
Right. So I have the Hydra and you have the Ariadne. But you also
claim you run UAe.
>> You want us to believe that you bought AmithlonI instead of
>> waiting for AmithlonII despite the information in the public
>> sphere.
>Why would anybody have any reason not to believe that? Unless
>that person was trying to invent yet another conspiracy.
You won't state the date you made the purcahse.
>> Yet you won't even reveal the date of this purchase
>I have told you over and over and over. What agenda do you have
>for ramming your fingers in your ears and singing the "La, la"
>song?
You gave a period, not a date.
>> And on top of that you claim to run UAe but can't prove it with
>> a cursory post from it via Newscoaster.
>I have already done so. On numerous occations. Again, what
>agenda do you have for sticking your head in the sand and playing
>dumb?
The fact that no URL's are forthcoming nor was there any attention
drawn to that historic event.
>>>Actually, we were discussing your pathlogical lying, your
>>>sleazey malicious attacks, and your pathetic trolling, but for
>>>some reason you keep changing the subject.
>> Do you currently use an internet capable Amiga or not?
>Since you insist on changing the subject: Yes I do, as you well
>know. Two of them in fact.
Sure you do. But you won't post from them.
>>>> Okay, so you have no ability to convince me that your Amigas
>>>> are in use or that you even still have them.
>>>What difference does it make what I do.
>> It's about your credibility.
>Unlike yours, my credibility is just fine.
Heh. Don't look now but it's in tatters and your ethical meter is
completely dead.
>>>I could walk up to you and bash you over the head with my Amiga
>>>and you still wouldn't acknowledge it.
>> Would your fantasy encounter where you bash me over the head
>> prove anything other than that you no longer value your Amiga?
>We could make it a clue that I bash you over the head with if you
>prefer.
Settle down, threats of phsical violence don't become you.
>> Would it show that you use it at all besides in an unprovoked
>> assault on my person.
>Provoked. Warranted. Probably even applauded.
Cyber delusions Gary.
>> You could sell it and fund a complete clone rather than try to
>> "brain" me to show that you actually have it.
>1) I don't need another clone.
Well the one you have doesn't seem to be able to use anything but
X-news.
>2) If I sold my Amiga it certainly wouldn't bring anything near
>enough to "fund a complete clone"!
Prices have dropped.
>3) (You won't understand this as it involves ethics, but here goes
>anyway) I refuse to sell my Amiga to anybody because it does not
>work reliably.
Ah, so when I post about my dead A3KT, as is for parts, it won't
garner a half decent price as spare parts and added bits like a
graphics card and some network cards? Are you saying that doing
that is unethical? Do you know how rare the little bits on the
motherboard are becoming?
>> Why go to
>> such desperate measures that would only point to your condition
>Because "braining" you would bring joy to so very many people!
Ouch. Sure it's not just you and voices you seem to hear?
>> rather than simply plugging in your cable connection and
>> shutting me up.
>Shutting you up is impossible. You would just invent some other
>dumb excuse or some other ridiculous lie or go off on some other
>ludicrous tangent pretending not to have seen the proof.
>PalfreyWeasel SOP.
That's an off base accusation. You could ask for someone to back
you up and simply repost the result everytime I popped up.
>>>It doesn't suit your malicious agenda to acknowledge all of the
>>>facts and evidence that I have been bashing you over the head
>>>with. You will continue to be an obdurate moron until your
>>>dying breath.
>> Really.
>Really! Just ask your shrink.
What does yours say?
>>>So I ask again, what's in it for me to post from my Amiga?
>> You can't. You don't have one any more.
>Would this be one of your ridiculous lies or one of your ludicrous
>tangents? It's hard to tell them apart sometimes.
Nope, I've decided that after a year or so you can not not that you
won't.
>>>You are perfectly capable of making a fool of yourself without
>>>any help from me whatsoever. We've been over this many, many
>>>times in the past. You didn't want to acknowledge those URLs
>>>in the past and you're not any more likely to do so now. So
>>>why should I bother? If you really wanted to see them you
>>>could easlily look them up for yourself. But you don't and you
>>>won't because then you would have to admit that you have been
>>>trolling all this long time, and you will never allow that to
>>>happen, no matter how foolish you make yourself look in the
>>>process.
>> You took the words about you right out of my keyboard. Wow.
>PalfreyWeasel denial. Very sad.
Nope I agree, that's you to a "T".
>>>Feel free to prove me wrong.
>> At any time you are free to point to the post where you posted
>> the results of your showconfig or from whichamiga to this
>> newsgroup in the last two years. You cannot, it did not happen.
>Ah, so now you have moved the goalposts. Clever dodge,
>WeaselBreath! But I have not failed to notice that you were
>unable to prove me wrong.
What, I gave you the benefit of two years. There are no such posts.
>>>> I can't imagine how I missed you posting from an "Amiga"
>>>I can. It happened. On multiple occations. You missed them
>>>all. How foolish does that make you look!
>> You posted from an Amigan newsreader?
>Yup. On multiple occations.
>> You included your showconfig results or whichamiga output?
>Sorry, WeaselBoy, but that was never in the contract (the one that
>I never signed).
Ahh, so that's why there are no url's to prove your claims. And
that was the "test" and you acknowledged it many many times when
you ran it down.
>>>> Gee Gary, that would be like putting words in my mouth in
>>>> reverse, you know, like leaving out the context of what I
>>>> said.
>>>Gee TerryTroll, like, when have you ever *included* any content
>>>in anything you've said?
>> Ha, all we have to to is look for what you snip.
>I've snipped lots of your bullshit. I've snipped lots of your
>lies. I've snipped lots of your malicious insults. I've snipped
>lots of your off-topic diversionary ploys. I've snipped lots of
>your muddleheaded gibberish. But I've NEVER snipped any of your
>content. I cannot snip that which does not exist!
Heh, quaint rationalization.
>>>BTW, your newsreader still isn't ROT13ing your from address
>>>your sig says it is supposed to be doing.
>> Your Amigan newsreader isn't posting to the net.
>Yours *shouldn't* be posting to the net. Not until you fix it.
It's fixed you just don't get the joke. I told Noel but he didn't
get it either, maybe he didn't understand.
>>>Apologize for your malicious lies and slander against me. Then
>>>apologize to c.s.a.a for wasting their time with all your
>>>trolling.
>> There are no malicious lies and slander.
>There's one malicious lie...
Acck, you don't have a working Amiga and you won't be posting from
it. That's a truth.
>> You have created a fantasy
>> world in which you are a martyr,
>There's a second malicious lie...
Go look up your posts about being maligned and relegated to a lower
caste.
>> condemned to a lower caste of some sort
>That makes three malicious lies...
It's all on google.
>> and constantly twitching in response to the voices in your head.
>Four malicious lies and a little slander thrown in for good
>measure. Well done, TrollBoy. Are you building up for one
>REALLY BIG apology?
Post from your Amiga with WhichAmiga as the content of the message
and I'll stop following up your slander.
>>>BTW, "chicken little" is YOUR phrase. I've never used it. Go
>>>look it up (if you are capable).
>> That's right Gary, a real fact
>I know, TerryTroll, that's why I corrected you.
You are "chicken little".
>>>Then please fix the attribution of your newsreader.
>> Whatever
>Look, TrollBoy, your writing "style" (and I use the word loosely)
>is hard enough to read as it is without your newsreader mangling
>things even worse. Please fix it.
You should see the formatting of your text.
>> Why is H&P still distributing Amithlon
>Because, like you, they have no moral conscience.
>> and Amiga Inc is enjoined from selling Umilator aka AmithlonII?
>Because, unlike you and H&P, they have a moral conscience.
We're talking dollars here, what are you on about. Amiga Inc axed
QNX without a backwards glance.
>> What's missing from this story?
>Your moral conscience.
It's not about me.
>>>I don't like to see Amigans and Amiga users treated poorly or
>>>taken advantage of. That happens to be exactly the same reason
>>>I give you and Steve a hard time.
>> You mean why you slander, defame and libel him? He's earned it
>> right?
>Hey, you're catching on!
Good, an admission up front makes things so much easier.
>> Where were you when Amiga Inc axed QNX?
>I think I was in the bathroom. What does that have to do with
>anything?
Your ethical meter seems a bit off.
>> Do you think that the AmigaOne is more NG than say Pegasos?
>More non sequitur diversionary bullshit! Let's get back to on
>topic. You were about to apologize for your malicious lies and
>slander against me. Then you were about to apologize to c.s.a.a
>for wasting their time with all your trolling.
There is no aplogy forthcoming from a pary that has been maligned
as much as me over such a simple but effective test of whether or
not a party is simply bullshitting when they say that they have and
own and use an Amiga. You failed.
The question is which way are you going to jump, following the
underpowered and late AmigaOne OS/4 route or the dynamic MorphOS
and Pegasos path?
>>>> That you have and use Amigas.
>>>Proven over and over and over again. If you weren't so bent on
>>>your malicious agendas you would have no problem acknowledging
>>>that fact.
>> Had and used Mr. Beeton. No more than that has been proven.
>Just as soon as I post, say, or do anything it becomes past tense.
>That's the way the universe works. Live with it.
Sophistry again. Guess what, you don't have an Amiga that works.
Gary Beeton
news:a4.W4.WR2GGD...@zool.com:
> "Gary Beeton" writes:
>
>>I never accused you of not *using* an Amiga. I accused you of not
>>*advocating* the Amiga. Big difference.
>
> Once again the contextual snip of why using an Amiga as my primary
> machine is advocacy in itself, shall we un-snip that part...
>
>:Actually Gary you have the story backwards as usual. I use my
>:Amiga as my primary machine, that in itself is a statement of
>:monumental proportion in that I also have a Dual P133 HP
>:Netserver, Duron 800, Dual PIII and a PIV box running various
>:Windows, Linux and Unix OS's.
Woop T Do! But I don't see anything resembling advocacy there.
>>UAE is an Amiga too. It also happens to be far more reliable than
>>my hardware based Amiga these days :(
>
> So, is it a question of you not being able to post from your Amiga
> after all?
I said it was unreliable, not dead. Why don't you read what is
actually written for a change instead trying to twist it into it
whatever suits your agenda?
> Take the MB ram out, put in a new PS and check for leaks
> on the capacitors.
Not worth the effort or cost.
> As for UAe, heh, I trashed it finally, interesting but nothing that
> can hold a candle to an actual Amiga.
Suit yourself. For me UAE is faster, more reliable, and more
convenient than my hardware Amiga.
> Point out the URL's then where you have posted from your Amiga
> using an Amigan newsreader
What, AGAIN? Go look it up yourself, you lazy duffus.
> after all
> you claim to have not only UAe running but a Hydra equipped Amiga
> in your possession.
You are confusing me with somebody else. I have never claimed that.
>>I've given up trying because every time I do you look the other
>>way and pretend not to see it.
>
> Point out those URL's then.
I have. It's not my fault you had your head stuck up your ass at the
time.
>>Oh brother, what a paranoid hypochondriac victimwannabe you are!
>
> Did you or did you not threaten to smash it over my head? I didn't
> make that up, that's what you typed.
Nice try, TrollBoy, but no, I didn't threaten any such thing.
<snicker>
> What are you going to tell me? How to make a PIV run? How to
> connect to the net with a Hydra and MiamiDX? Burn a CD? How about
> how to post from UAe.
There appears to be a great many things you have no clue about.
However you are far too high and mighty to actually admit that there
might be something you don't know. Most people *like* to learn and
improve themselves. If you don't, that's just fine by me.
>>> Not claiming any experience like before?
>
>>I used it breifly, but reports I read from more experienced users
>>gave me the willies. Of course I have ImageFX configured to use
>>VM when necessary, but everybody knows that having sufficient RAM
>>is a far better solution. Everybody but you, that is.
>
> Don't listen to people.
Classic TerryTroll denial! TerryTroll knows far more than anybody
else about any possible subject. So obviously anybody who says
anything that isn't already in TerryTroll's enormous sphere of
understanding is a troll and shouldn't be listened to.
>>> What memory limitations
>>> are you saddling the Amiga platform with?
>
>>Are you serious? No VM, no page swapping, no memory protection,
>>15 year old memory bus architecture, low bandwidth.
>
> Ah, and here I thought you were talking aobut all Amigas. You
> should try a tuned and accelerated CSPPC with 64bit ram.
A CSPPC which uses low bandwidth 60ns SIMMs with no VM, no page
swapping, no memory protection, and a 15 year old memory bus
architecture?
>>>>2) "Spinning memory" (to use Steve's vernacular) compromises
>>>>performance very badly. Ex.: Large image 90 deg. rotation in
>>>>ImageFX using sufficient RAM ~1 minute. Same image 90 deg.
>>>>rotation in ImageFX using VM ~1 day.
>
>>> That's from personal experience is it?
>
>>Yes.
>
> Uh, so one image is smaller than your 144M and the other is larger?
What part of "Same image" don't you understand?
> Hmm, is that like going from 300DPI printing to 600DPI?
No, nothing like that at all.
>>PCs have moved on. Unfortunately, Amigas have not.
>
> Did you or didn't you use a pc with 8-16M of ram running windows
> 95?
Don't recall. Seems to me I went straight to Win95 under 32MB. What
difference does it make? Win95 and 8-16MB machines are ancient
history. Things have progressed since the stone age - you should
poke your head out of your cave once in a while to see.
> Are you saying there is a limitation on how much ram an Amiga can
> address?
No, I didn't say that. But obviously there is. As there is with any
and all computers.
>>Once again you fail to comprehend what I said. I didn't accused
>>you of not *having* buckets of memory. I accused you of not
>>*needing* buckets of memory. Once again, big difference. Your
>>avail output supports my accusation.
>
> There is no current project open on my Amiga, I am only cleaning
> drives, doing newsreading, a Pagestream layout and a little
> research on the web. Should I get a project going I will bring up
> an RRD with my system setup that saves all output every two minutes
> from my active applications and proceed in merry fashion on a
> nearly decade old system.
That's nice. So nothing that requires buckets of memory then, huh?
--
Gary Beeton
Gary Beeton
news:T4.L4.WR27GY...@zool.com:
> "Gary Beeton" writes:
>
>>"Trust and Gary Beeton are anathema."
>
>>That is exactly equivalent to saying:
>
>>"Trust is anathema" and "Gary Beeton is anathema."
>
> And no it is not.
Riiiiiiiiight. Haven't taken conjunctives like 'and' and 'or' yet in
school? Actually what you wrote makes sense, but not in the way you
had intended. You probably DO curse and condemn trust. You probably
HAVE excommunicated trust from your little world. IOW, you cower in
paranoia. That would explain why you label everybody who disagrees
with you as 'troll'. My but you make an interesting psychiatric case
study!
--
Gary Beeton
Gary Beeton
> "Gary Beeton" writes:
>
> >You were about to apologize for your malicious lies and
> >slander against me. Then you were about to apologize to c.s.a.a
> >for wasting their time with all your trolling.
>
> There is no aplogy forthcoming
In that case, please fuck off until you are mature enough to do so.
--
Gary Beeton
Aaron Young
> Aaron Young <aa...@cometsite.com> wrote:
>
>> 222 341063 <slrnbmshi7...@primefactor.com>
>
>> you are both such little babies! weee! babaies so cute talking and
>> whining at each other. koochie koo babys!
>
> Top posting is not used here or at least not for a simple comment
> on such a long quote.
>
No. Just being an asshole. Carry on.
palfrey
"Aaron Young" <aa...@cometsite.com> wrote in
message news:slrnbmukjk...@primefactor.com...
> > Aaron Young <aa...@cometsite.com> wrote:
> >> 222 341063 <slrnbmshi7...@primefactor.com>
What do you think of AmigaOne vs Pegasos?
Terry
palfrey
> On 21 Sep 03 18:52:34, Terry <tpal...@zool.com> wrote:
> > Aaron Young <aa...@cometsite.com> wrote:
> >> 222 341063 <slrnbmshi7...@primefactor.com>
What do you think of AmigaOne vs Pegasos?
Terry
palfrey
> On 21 Sep 03 18:52:34, Terry <tpal...@zool.com> wrote:
> > Aaron Young <aa...@cometsite.com> wrote:
> >> 222 341063 <slrnbmshi7...@primefactor.com>
What do you think of AmigaOne vs Pegasos?
Terry
RaYzor
"palfrey" <tpal...@dccnet.com> wrote in message
news:vmv1eka...@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Aaron Young" <aa...@cometsite.com> wrote in
> message news:slrnbmukjk...@primefactor.com...
>
> > On 21 Sep 03 18:52:34, Terry <tpal...@zool.com> wrote:
>
> > > Aaron Young <aa...@cometsite.com> wrote:
>
> > >> 222 341063 <slrnbmshi7...@primefactor.com>
>---snip---<
> What do you think of AmigaOne vs Pegasos?
>
> Terry
>
Can you post that about 3 more times? The first three were not enough.
RaYzor
tpalfrey
>
>On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 04:04:57 -0000, "tpalfrey"
><tpal...@zool.com> wrote:
>>>You are in denial.
>>Nope, and it ain't denial, I am sure there is a reasonable and
>>rational person somewhere in there with your voices.
>It appears you are in denial, and this 'denial' is not a river in
>Egypt.
Speak of the devil.
>>>>>We were having a nice discussion relating to Amiga advocacy
>>>>>before PalfreyWeasel showed his ugly troll face.
>>>> Which discussion Gary
>>>We were discussing Amigas.
>>You advised someone they could get Amithlon from H&P?
>He noted that the product was still being sold. What he wrote did
>not come across as an exhortation to buy Amithlon from H&P.
Nor did it have to. However in juxtaposition with his prior rants
it did constitute a smartly executed 180.
>>>PalfreyWeasel then launched a totally fabricated abusive
>>>personal attack upon my person for no other reason than
>>>malicious spite.
>>You totally did a 180 degree turnabout on an ethical issue.
>There was no turnabout, except in your mind.
Heh, sorry, it was stunning.
>>Anyone with half a brain, that includes pointy headed trolls has
>>been made well aware of what actually happened to Amithlon via
>>the various cryings of the parties involved.
>And the outright lying of various parties not involved, such as
>your master and mentor, Giovanella.
H&P still sells Amithlon, Amithlon II died at birth with Amiga Inc
backing it. This isn't about ethics. Nor do we know who is lying
about what.
>>Nonetheless it stands as a grounding reef in the water that H&P
>>continues to distribute Amithlon and Amiga Inc. and Bernd are
>>estopped from selling AmithlonII. Can you explain that?
>One possibility is that H&P are doing so without proper license to
>do so.
So, what's stops Amithlon II?
>>Gary get off your paranoid delusion and look around you.
>ROFTLMAO, that is just precious coming from you.
You guys are not a hilarious tag team matchup?
>>>Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure that won't stop you from lying
>>>compulsively.
>>I don't need to lie with the way you act.
>If you don't need to, then why do it?
Where have you been hiding anyway?
>>>As do yours. At least I have truth and honesty on my side.
>>>have only bullshit on your side, and that won't do you any
>>>in a court of law.
>>Heh, I didn't make a stake on the moral highground in the first
>>place. You did.
>I have to disagree with you there. As far as I can see, you are
>the one constantly trying to capture the high moral ground.
Whatever. But in this particular instance it was Gary who arrived
there first and loudest.
>>And any reversal or watering down of that very public position
>>will attract fair comment.
>From you.
Exactly.
>>The fair comment was, "is your ethical meter broken".
>The fair comment in return is that you are not capable of reading,
>or at least not capable of reading something without reading other
>things into it.
Tough. Things aren't as simple as you try and make them out to be.
>>Wherever you and Noel took that to after that is entirely on
>>plates, you made me explain what you had done with that public
>>post.
>I did not *make* you do anything. Indeed, given your tendency
>weasel-like obfuscation and twisting of words, I would not be
>minded to ask you to explain anything, let alone make you do it.
Heh, you act I react. You came here on vendetta chasing after Steve
and decided to stay. At least you have posted from your "Amiga".
>>>Unlike you, I am not trying to run or hide.
>>Why dodge and bob so much then?
>The trouble is that when you are ducking and weaving so much you
>perceive the rest of the world as dodging and bobbing when in fact
>it is standing still.
Okay, did you happen to notice Gary posting from his "Amigas"?
>>What date did you purchase Amithlon on? When did you last post
>>CSAA from your Amiga? Do you still have a hardware Amiga?
>What has any of this got to do with you? You have a hardware
>Amiga, and it appears you do precious little real work with it.
Character of the troll. He made statements and I would like him to
back up his comments or stop making them.
>>What, because I called a troll on his apparently broken ethical
>>meter?
>You think you did, but you only made a fool of yourself ranting
>about an ethical u-turn that never happened.
Oh, it happened, despite what you would like to spin now, and if it
didn't then Gary was just trolling.
>>Be as slow as you want, you are not a party that I can be
>>by you despite your pathetic attempts to lbluff your way through.
>Do you think he really cares what YOU think?
No. But he has said lots of things and now he is being called to
account.
>>>> Your statements are not backed up by proof, we only have your
>>>> word about your Amiga currency which is simply not good
>>>> enough.
>>>You said you were assured - that's good enough for me. Unless
>>>of course you were lying.
>>Post the proof troll boy, shut me up by showing I'm wrong.
>You have yet to prove your Amiga currency by posting proof that
>you know how to do anything useful with your soooper-doooper
>Amiga.
Tough. Now you've re-written `currency'?
>>>>>The reason I don't get what you say is more obvious - your
>>>>>writing is gibberish.
>>>> Especially when you cannot answer it in your usual manner and
>>>> have to snip it to get around it.
>>>Your writing is gibberish no matter how I choose to reply.
>>You get the point troll boy.
>Strange how the biggest trolls are the quickest to accuse others
>of being trolls, isn't it?
There are trolls and then there are trolls.
>>>>>> One posting from an Amiga based newsreader with the results
>>>>>> of "WhichAmiga" is the bar you have to reach.
>Still posting your idiotic 'Amiga currency' test? How about you
>proving that you know how to do anything useful with this box
>other than post to the net. Heck, an MS-DOS box can do that.
Heh, shades of the old Pagestream thread.
>>Heh, it's your credibility.
>Why don't you worry about yours? It is in tatters.
I own and run an Amiga as my primary machine. Your problem with
that is?
>>You make lots of claims about what you run and have but you
>>haven't proved since you were challenged.
>You haven't proved that much either.
Gary claims to have and use an Amiga. Gary touted it as more
powerful than my Amiga and that his applications and understanding
of the Amiga were superior to mine. You posted from your "Amiga"
what's Gary done?
>>>Nobody but you cares. Why are you so hung up on this
>>>meaningless piece of trivia?
>>Because of the implications about your character if it is not
>>true.
>It is your preoccupation, perhaps shared only by that other
>fool.
Raving fools come in all shapes and sizes. There's this tag team
pair that is pretty funny too.
>>>Why would anybody have any reason not to believe that? Unless
>>>that person was trying to invent yet another conspiracy.
>>You won't state the date you made the purcahse.
>Why should he? Are you a tax inspector?
What do taxes have to do with it. This is about the veracity of his
story.
>>Sure you do. But you won't post from them.
>Duh. Maybe because has another system he *prefers* to post from?
Whatever.
>>>Unlike yours, my credibility is just fine.
>>Heh. Don't look now but it's in tatters and your ethical meter
>>completely dead.
>An opinion held solely by you, as far as I can see.
How far would that be?
>>>> Would it show that you use it at all besides in an unprovoked
>>>> assault on my person.
>>>Provoked. Warranted. Probably even applauded.
>>Cyber delusions Gary.
>Yours?
No, his.
>>>Would this be one of your ridiculous lies or one of your
>>>ludicrous tangents? It's hard to tell them apart sometimes.
>>Nope, I've decided that after a year or so you can not not that
>>you won't.
>And the significance of your having made that decision is? Who
>are you anyway? Anyone significant?
What does that matter. Gary has proven himself an ass.
>>Ahh, so that's why there are no url's to prove your claims.
>There are no URLs to show that you do anything other than post to
>the net from your Amiga (when you are not posting from Windows).
>So what?
Wrong, you just don't have access to them.
>>And >that was the "test" and you acknowledged it many many times
>>And >when
>>you ran it down.
>He ran it down because it was stupid, infantile and proved little
>or nothing.
You took it.
>>It's fixed you just don't get the joke. I told Noel but he
>>get it either, maybe he didn't understand.
>You told me what, precisely?
See.
>>>> There are no malicious lies and slander.
>>>There's one malicious lie...
>>Acck, you don't have a working Amiga and you won't be posting
>>from it. That's a truth.
>Perhaps the truth is far more like... he has a working Amiga but
>has better computers to post to the net from.
As an Amigan advocate that would be an excellent position to take.
>>>> You have created a fantasy
>>>> world in which you are a martyr,
>>>There's a second malicious lie...
>>Go look up your posts about being maligned and relegated to a
>>lower caste.
>By whom? By anyone of any significance?
It was all in his head.
>>Post from your Amiga with WhichAmiga as the content of the
>>message and I'll stop following up your slander.
>What exactly is slander, in your opinion? If you can substantiate
>it, why not follow it up in court, given that you live in the
>country?
Different provinces. Different statutes. Besides he lives on the
wrong side of the mountains.
>>>I know, TerryTroll, that's why I corrected you.
>>You are "chicken little".
>Still drawing analogies from children's stories, I see.
Simple analogies for simple situations. Are you saying he wasn't
off his nut for his fascist dictator phase and now for his potty
mouthed spew?
>>>>>I don't like to see Amigans and Amiga users treated poorly or
>>>>>taken advantage of. That happens to be exactly the same
>>>>>reason I give you and Steve a hard time.
>>>> You mean why you slander, defame and libel him? He's earned it
>>>> right?
>>>Hey, you're catching on!
>>Good, an admission up front makes things so much easier.
>Steve is not being slandered. He is a bare-faced liar and such
>accusations against him could easily be substantiated should he
>decide to take legal action on it.
According to you.
>>There is no aplogy forthcoming from a pary that has been
>>as much as me over such a simple but effective test of whether
>>not a party is simply bullshitting when they say that they have
>>and own and use an Amiga. You failed.
>Your test is proof of ownership (not necessarily by the person
>posting, but also by a friend or relative), not proof of usage.
>You have yet to substantiate the latter
Whatever. Trust has to start someplace an it sure doesn't come from
temper tantrums like Gary throws.
>>The question is which way are you going to jump, following the
>>underpowered and late AmigaOne OS/4 route or the dynamic MorphOS
>>and Pegasos path?
>Or neither.
He claims to be advocating the Amiga.
>>Sophistry again. Guess what, you don't have an Amiga that works.
>Or so you would like to think.
Haven't seen any proof, I would like to believe that he is telling
the truth but without proof he is just another loud mouthed troll.
tpalfrey
>> "Gary Beeton" writes:
Does this mean you are going to run and hide again?
tpalfrey
>"tpalfrey" <tpal...@zool.com> wrote in
>news:a4.W4.WR2GGD...@zool.com:
>> "Gary Beeton" writes:
>>>I never accused you of not *using* an Amiga. I accused you of
>>>not *advocating* the Amiga. Big difference.
>> Once again the contextual snip of why using an Amiga as my
>> primary machine is advocacy in itself, shall we un-snip that
>> part...
>>:Actually Gary you have the story backwards as usual. I use my
>>:Amiga as my primary machine, that in itself is a statement of
>>:monumental proportion in that I also have a Dual P133 HP
>>:Netserver, Duron 800, Dual PIII and a PIV box running various
>>:Windows, Linux and Unix OS's.
>Woop T Do! But I don't see anything resembling advocacy there.
Ahh, so having the old PIV and passing it up as my primary machine
isn't a demonstration of advocating my Amiga?
I mention the other machines to validate what I've said about
Wintel over the years.
>>>UAE is an Amiga too. It also happens to be far more reliable
>>>than my hardware based Amiga these days :(
>> So, is it a question of you not being able to post from your
>> Amiga after all?
>I said it was unreliable, not dead. Why don't you read what is
>actually written for a change instead trying to twist it into it
>whatever suits your agenda?
Because you have this irrational need to be obdurate about posting
from your Amiga. That is the key to rational discussion which you
have disdained to this point.
>> Take the MB ram out, put in a new PS and check for leaks on the
>> capacitors.
>Not worth the effort or cost.
Oh, just like plugging in the cable.
>> As for UAe, heh, I trashed it finally, interesting but nothing
>> that can hold a candle to an actual Amiga.
>Suit yourself. For me UAE is faster, more reliable, and more
>convenient than my hardware Amiga.
Sure it is. I guess you don't want it to do too much.
>> Point out the URL's then where you have posted from your Amiga
>> using an Amigan newsreader
>What, AGAIN? Go look it up yourself, you lazy duffus.
In the last year? They don't exist.
>> after all
>> you claim to have not only UAe running but a Hydra equipped
>> Amiga in your possession.
>You are confusing me with somebody else. I have never claimed
>that.
Ariadne, sorry.
>>>I've given up trying because every time I do you look the other
>>>way and pretend not to see it.
>> Point out those URL's then.
>I have. It's not my fault you had your head stuck up your ass at
>the time.
What your Steve URL's?
>>>Oh brother, what a paranoid hypochondriac victimwannabe you are!
>> Did you or did you not threaten to smash it over my head? I
>> didn't make that up, that's what you typed.
>Nice try, TrollBoy, but no, I didn't threaten any such thing.
><snicker>
Liar.
>> What are you going to tell me? How to make a PIV run? How to
>> connect to the net with a Hydra and MiamiDX? Burn a CD? How
>> about how to post from UAe.
>There appears to be a great many things you have no clue about.
>However you are far too high and mighty to actually admit that
>there might be something you don't know. Most people *like* to
>learn and improve themselves. If you don't, that's just fine by
>me.
I'm having trouble with your attitudes.
>>>> Not claiming any experience like before?
>>>I used it breifly, but reports I read from more experienced
>>>users gave me the willies. Of course I have ImageFX configured
>>>to use VM when necessary, but everybody knows that having
>>>sufficient RAM is a far better solution. Everybody but you,
>>>that is.
>> Don't listen to people.
>Classic TerryTroll denial! TerryTroll knows far more than anybody
>else about any possible subject. So obviously anybody who says
>anything that isn't already in TerryTroll's enormous sphere of
>understanding is a troll and shouldn't be listened to.
Let me quote you from above:
>There appears to be a great many things you have no clue about.
>However you are far too high and mighty to actually admit that
>there might be something you don't know. Most people *like* to
>learn and improve themselves. If you don't, that's just fine by
>me.
In context that meant to work it through yourself.
>>>> What memory limitations
>>>> are you saddling the Amiga platform with?
>>>Are you serious? No VM, no page swapping, no memory
>>>15 year old memory bus architecture, low bandwidth.
>> Ah, and here I thought you were talking aobut all Amigas. You
>> should try a tuned and accelerated CSPPC with 64bit ram.
>A CSPPC which uses low bandwidth 60ns SIMMs with no VM, no page
>swapping, no memory protection, and a 15 year old memory bus
>architecture?
Running AmigaOS and apps, not dragging the windows behemoth around
the block.
>> Are you saying there is a limitation on how much ram an Amiga
>> can address?
>No, I didn't say that. But obviously there is. As there is with
>any and all computers.
Oh, it seemed like you were on about memory limitations in a very
specific way and now you seem to be backing up the onramp of that
particular point.
:Wed, 26 Feb 2003 07:30:32 MST
:"Not that that helps the Amiga because it's hardware limits you to
:a very tiny amount of RAM."
Or is it that you just forgot about all the different ways to add
memory to an Amiga?
>>>Once again you fail to comprehend what I said. I didn't
>>>you of not *having* buckets of memory. I accused you of not
>>>*needing* buckets of memory. Once again, big difference.
>>>avail output supports my accusation.
>> There is no current project open on my Amiga, I am only cleaning
>> drives, doing newsreading, a Pagestream layout and a little
>> research on the web. Should I get a project going I will bring
>> up an RRD with my system setup that saves all output every two
>> minutes from my active applications and proceed in merry fashion
>> on a nearly decade old system.
>That's nice. So nothing that requires buckets of memory then,
>huh?
Nope. But I do have the equivalent of "buckets of memory" for when
I do need it which isn't right now as there is no project on the
go.
tpalfrey
>On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 00:13:41 -0000, "tpalfrey"
>wrote:
>>Once again the contextual snip of why using an Amiga as my
>>primary machine is advocacy in itself, shall we un-snip that
>>part...
>Once again you ignore that your excuse above is not considered
>part of any accepted definition of advocacy. Perhaps you are just
>too lazy to advocate it. Perhaps you just can't.
Despite having those other systems and OS's I choose the Amiga as
my primary machine because it is so much more capable of doing what
I want it to in the way that I want it done.
Terry
"Gary Beeton" <gbe...@shaw.ca> wrote in
message news:Xns93FE579FA31...@24.66.94.159...
> > "Gary Beeton" writes:
Thank you Doctor Beeton.
Once again the power and flexibility of the english language lies
beyond the simple ken of the pointy headed troll.
No Gary, I meant anathema when referring to "trust and Gary
Beeton", in the context of you glibly suggesting that you are
worthy of such confidence despite the behaviours you have regularly
demonstrated which guarantee that it is never likely to happen.
Snip and snap all you want. Anathema it is. Trusting you I mean.
What you said is "trust me", and that is anathema.
Terry
Gary Beeton
news:F7.A7.XR25Jf...@zool.com:
> "Gary Beeton" writes:
>
>>"tpalfrey" <tpal...@zool.com> wrote in message
>>news:<K5.G5.WR2IJy...@zool.com>...
>
>>> "Gary Beeton" writes:
>
>>>>You were about to apologize for your malicious lies and slander
>>>>against me. Then you were about to apologize to c.s.a.a for
>>>>wasting their time with all your trolling.
>
>>>There is no aplogy forthcoming
>
>>In that case, please fuck off until you are mature enough to do
>>so.
>
> Does this mean you are going to run and hide again?
I'm tired to the core of your constant regurgitation of the same old
tired lies and bullshit. Unless you have come to apologize you can
go fuck yourself. Do I make myself clear little boy?
--
Gary Beeton
Terry
> > "Gary Beeton" writes:
> >>> "Gary Beeton" writes:
Run and hide it is.
Terry
Gary Beeton
@corp.supernews.com:
>
> "Gary Beeton" <gbe...@shaw.ca> wrote in
> message news:Xns93FEEEE2B9E...@24.66.94.159...
>
>> I'm tired to the core of your constant regurgitation of the same old
>> tired lies and bullshit. Unless you have come to apologize you can
>> go fuck yourself. Do I make myself clear little boy?
>
> Run and hide it is.
Fuck yourself it is.
--
Gary Beeton
Aaron Young
>
> What do you think of AmigaOne vs Pegasos?
Don't know much about them. Does the Amiga come with a C compiler now?
Terry
> "Terry" <tpal...@zool.com> wrote in news:vn0adqe8j3scc8
> @corp.supernews.com:
>>> > Does this mean you are going to run and hide again?
> >> I'm tired to the core of your constant regurgitation of the same old
> >> tired lies and bullshit. Unless you have come to apologize you can
> >> go fuck yourself. Do I make myself clear little boy?
> > Run and hide it is.
> Fuck yourself it is.
You're tired of hearing about your lack of credibility
because you won't simply prove that you still have
and use an Amiga like you claim to have.
That I question what part of Amiga advocacy not using one
represents?
That I labelled your ducking and dodging akin to
a rendition of Chicken Little when you accused me
of being a fascist dictator and anti-Amiga terrorist
over that very same test?
That I nailed your revisionism to the wall when you
changed your story several times over everything from
your Amiga expertise to how things actually happened?
That even with full expletive potty mouthed spew you
resemble Mr. Anonymous far more than I?
What next?
AOOYOWCF, the only way to win!!!
Terry
Gary Beeton
Oh, never mind, I see you are doing so even now. And in public too!
--
Gary Beeton
Terry
> What part of "go fuck yourself" don't you understand?
> Oh, never mind, I see you are doing so even now. And in public too!
So, with his fingers firmly planted in his ears Gary does the troll
"LaLaLaLaLa I can't hear you" dance pretending that the stuff
he snipped doesn't really exist.
Too bad he couldn't have simply posted from his Amiga over
a year ago and not entered into a pissing contest that he has lost
badly.
Remembering that "one of the advantages of the A4K over the A3K
was ZorroIII slots"?
Harummmph!! said the Gary troll.
Terry
Gary Beeton
public (should I live to see the day!), your apology will always be
welcomed.
--
Gary Beeton
Terry
> Remember, TerryTroll, if you ever get tired of fucking yourself in
> public (should I live to see the day!), your apology will always be
> welcomed.
I, Terry, am not Gary.
Gary, you've provided a wealth of material which I'll be happy
to reproduce until you see fit to apologise for your unseemly and ill
advised tactics over the last year:
First, the basics:
"You want me to disconnect my PC's cable modem
connection, re-connect it to my Amiga, wait for my
Amiga to boot, run THOR, find your stinking post
and reply to it, all just so you can say "Oh, okay,
thanks, you pass my stupid test"?"
For the record that stupid test was for elimating those who
claimed to have and use an Amiga while running the Amiga
down in comp.sys.amiga.advocacy.
About Gary's understanding of Amigas:
"I have used an Amiga for roughly the same length of time as you. I have
a more powerful Amiga than you. I use far more complex software than
you to do far more complex tasks. Based on other discussion you have
been involved with, I am pretty confident stating that I understand the
inner workings of the Amiga far, far better than you. Now, what were
you saying about 'expertise' again?"
"My A4K/WE4040/136MB/SCSI2/PIV is a bit more powerful
than your otherwise similarly decked out A3K."
"Mine is only just a bit more powerful than yours, as I've already
stated. Nevertheless, if you consider me to have no credibility
based on my system, then you have just a little bit less."
"I have all those (or equivalents) and more. You only have an A3k
against my A4K, and you have less RAM. "
"Dude, look up. "My A4K/WE4040/136MB/SCSI2/PIV is a bit
more powerful" is a direct quote of my original post. Stop trying
to place false attribution on me."
>Remind us all again what the superiority of the A4K is over
>the A3K after adding an accelerator and a graphics card?
>Your A4KD vs my A3KT?
"ZorroIII for starters."
"Having only ever seen an A3K once, it is perhaps not too surprising
that I don't know all its features and nuances."
Now on to the Amiga bashing part of Gary's agenda:
"Yes, well, it's a bit overused when talking about Amiga hardware.
Can we just assume that if we are talking about Amiga hardware
that it IS obsolete without actually having to say it?"
Terry
Gary Beeton
it must be VERY difficult for you to admit to yourself that you were
wrong. Because in doing so you must also admit to yourself that you
are a malicious troll, damaging the reputation of the Amiga community
in the process, and an asshole. But don't worry, some day you WILL
grow up, and on that day you will be ashamed of yourself and
remorseful. It will be important for you not to retreat into a self-
loathing, self-abusive malaise on the day you come to that dreadful
realization. The best thing you can do for yourself is to come out and
admit just what a colossal asshole you have been. To yourself and to
the world. Only then will people begin to treat you with any respect.
On that day I will forgive you.
Until then, continue to fuck yourself in public if you must. I can
wait.
--
Gary Beeton
Terry
> Terry, you're obviously not mature enough to apologize yet. I'm sure
> it must be VERY difficult for you to admit to yourself that you were
> wrong. Because in doing so you must also admit to yourself that you
> are a malicious troll, damaging the reputation of the Amiga community
> in the process, and an asshole. But don't worry, some day you WILL
> grow up, and on that day you will be ashamed of yourself and
> remorseful. It will be important for you not to retreat into a self-
> loathing, self-abusive malaise on the day you come to that dreadful
> realization. The best thing you can do for yourself is to come out and
> admit just what a colossal asshole you have been. To yourself and to
> the world. Only then will people begin to treat you with any respect.
> On that day I will forgive you.
AOOYOWCF!!
ROTFLMAO!
> Until then, continue to fuck yourself in public if you must. I can
> wait.
Well I have to admit that was a very good reply for deflecting the
Amiga knowledge that you've shared with us here in CSAA.
But enough about you, back to my personal grievances with the
treatment you have showered upon me for daring to ask you to
prove what you claimed:
"...and try to make c.s.a.a into a fascist regime by excluding everyone
who disagrees with the self-proclaimed dictators."
"No, you're postings make you out as a "fascist agent". I had nothing to
do with it."
"Perhaps. No one has ever prevented me from speaking my mind, so I've
never questioned it. I'll look into it more closely if your
must-use-an-amiga fascist regime ever takes off."
"You were trying to start a fascist state. That is
*not* what these newsgroups are for."
"You trying to become c.s.a.a Dictator-For-Life is far more comical that
sinister. Is this more of your paranoid delusions, Terry, or simply
your ego taking over again?"
"I was simply and accurately describing your behaviour. If you don't
like being called a fascist then stop acting like one."
Then all of a sudden you did an about face and said:
"Fascist dictatorwannabe. As if you really *could* make people jump
through your silly hoops. LOL!"
Go figure.
You never seemed to come up short for your fascist bent:
"Since you've proven beyond any shadow of a doubt that you have no idea
what Amiga advocacy is, your opinion means nothing."
Maybe it stems from your martyr complex:
"And how would I ever "gain your ears" if your test has already labeled
me as being a member of the lower caste and therefore not worthy of an
audience?"
All this over a simple test to determine if claimed Amiga currency was
actually true.
Terry
Gary Beeton
your infantile behaviour, TerryTroll, but frankly that hardly seems
likely considering you appear to be getting less mature with every
passing minute.
--
Gary Beeton
Terry
AOOYOWCF!! To put it in terms you seem to understand.
Once you've accepted responsibility for what you have done
in your juvenile avoidance, ie. actually proving something for
once, of the simple Amiga means test we can move on.
The messenger isn't pleased with your actions.
I can only sit in wonder and awe at the audacity you exhibit
when confronted with what you have been doing rather than
simply ending the exchange at the very beginning when your
cards were all still close to your chest instead of being
strewn over the table in plain sight.
It's your call.
But remember, even your tag team buddy Noel fired up UAe
and posted just to show he could do as he claimed and earned
my grudging respect.
You on the other hand have been unable to back up your
claims of Amiga knowledge vis a vis various machines
and their capabilities much less address the issues
around the higher end CSPPC/CVPPC/scsiUW configurations
or even the Mediator based pci enhancements.
Everyone knows that you ran an Amiga for years and used it
for the magic it embodied. You played that as if it was
a continuing "get out of jail free" card. But when it came right
down to it you have written the Amiga off yet still want to
be considered an advocate acting on the side of good.
You decide Gary, this is solely based on your actions, not
anyone else's unlike what you have thrown at me.
Grow up.
Terry
Gary Beeton
so in the privacy of your own home instead of in public? Nobody likes
seeing you embarrass yourself this badly. And it certainly isn't Amiga
advocacy. Like I said, I'll be waiting to forgive you should you ever
choose to grow up.
--
Gary Beeton
palfrey
"Noel" <no.t...@I.dont.want.your.spam> wrote in message
news:i169nvccn3ov1s49u...@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 02:45:16 -0000, "tpalfrey" <tpal...@zool.com>
> wrote:
> >Sorry, you know how it is using unconfigured Windows crap. You want
> >that in the newsgroup or would e-mail suffice?
> Strange how you never had that problem before now. Perhaps you are
> using problems with your news server as yet another reason to bash
> something which is not at fault.
I think not Mr. Fancy Pants tag team member.
The Duron has recently been upgraded and a new install of Windows
put on it. That means that while things are present they have not been
set up like on the other windows capable boxes.
That message burst resulted from sending from the Duron box, a games
machine, because it was open and available at that moment. I'm not sure
what I did wrong if anything.
Terry
tpalfrey
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 03:03:35 -0000,
>"tpalfrey" <tpal...@zool.com> wrote:
> >Despite having those other systems and OS's I choose the Amiga
> >as my primary machine because it is so much more capable of
> >doing what I want it to in the way that I want it done.
> Why not have a go at advocating it then?
Tried that and it didn't work. Don't you remember when you held up
Qark and challenged the Amiga to do the same. We all remember
where that debate ended up or do we have to rehash it again?
Something about you using a DTP as a support item not a mainstay
app.
tpalfrey
>On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:48:41 -0700, "palfrey"
><tpal...@dccnet.com> wrote:
>>The Duron has recently been upgraded and a new install of
>>put on it. That means that while things are present they have not
>>been set up like on the other windows capable boxes.
>A trained monkey could configure Outhouse Express. So what is
>your point?
The point dear sir is that while what you say may be true it is not
related in any way to what I said. You do remember the `reading for
comprehension' thread do you not?
The main and most salient point was, that while things were present
they were not set up, which to most reasonable people would mean
that OE was being used `out of the box'. It has nothing to do with
your trained monkeys or your penchant for misdirection.
tpalfrey
>On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 02:53:57 -0000, "tpalfrey"
>wrote:
>>Tried that and it didn't work. Don't you remember when you held
>>up Qark and challenged the Amiga to do the same. We all remember
>>where that debate ended up or do we have to rehash it again?
>No, you don't have to rehash it, I remember it all too well.
>However, you showed little evidence of having used Quark to make
>such comparisons meaningful.
You were the one that pulled Qark out of your hat, the rest is
history and it doesn't look good on you.
>>Something about you using a DTP as a support item not a mainstay
>>app.
>Huh? If you are going to attempt to paraphrase me, please do me
>the favour of not twisting my words. I use DTP, along with a
>number of other diverse types of apps. For work.
In a support manner not as original working applications.
>Now, tell us again, what is it that you do?
Ask Beeton, he has a list of apps that I use that are eqivalents to
his.
My answer is, "Whatever I want".
Oh, and he is quite willing to drag RL into this forum if it serves
his purposes regardless of the consequences.
tpalfrey
>On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 07:31:16 -0700, "Terry" <tpal...@zool.com>
>wrote:
>>Too bad he couldn't have simply posted from his Amiga over a year
>>ago and not entered into a pissing contest that he has lost
>>badly.
>And you think you have won? Bwwwaaaaahhhhh!
You mean against the Beeton troll who has descended to potty
mouthed spew instead of rational responses?
Yes.
All he had to do was to post from an "Amiga" and he would have
credibility for all that he claimed instead of just his past Amiga
experience.
tpalfrey
>On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 09:14:51 -0700, "Terry" <tpal...@zool.com>
>wrote:
>>"You want me to disconnect my PC's cable modem connection,
>>re-connect it to my Amiga, wait for my Amiga to boot, run THOR,
>>find your stinking post and reply to it, all just so you can say
>>"Oh, okay, thanks, you pass my stupid test"?"
>Yes, I remember that post you quoted. What part of it did you
>understand?
It speaks to the big hole in Gary's claims. To shut me up you
simply posted from UAe. Gary did everything but.
>>For the record that stupid test was for elimating those who
>>claimed to have and use an Amiga while running the Amiga down in
>>comp.sys.amiga.advocacy.
>Many who claimed to have but not to use were also invited to take
>your utterly silly, meaningless 'test' of 'currency'.
They also don't post a lot do they and certainly not in the manner
of Mr. Beeton.
>>About Gary's understanding of Amigas:
>Lets have something about yours, for a change.
Fine, I've used most models except the A1000/A1200 fairly
extensively. But I know enough about them to converse
intelligently, the A1000 was the first and most limited machine and
it was outside my budgetary bounds and the A1200 embodied the A500
limitations with respect to the equivalent but more endowed A2000
making it a natural miss.
That would be continuous use as my main platform for over 16 years.
I ran everything from 1.2 to ARP to 1.3, 2.04, 3.1, 3.9 and NetBSD
and Debian on my Amigas as well as "Watchtower".
>>"I have used an Amiga for roughly the same length of time as you.
>>I have a more powerful Amiga than you. I use far more complex
>>software than you to do far more complex tasks. Based on other
>>discussion you have been involved with, I am pretty confident
>>stating that I understand the inner workings of the Amiga far,
>>far better than you. Now, what were you saying about 'expertise'
>>again?"
>Well, it is a statement you can neither prove nor disprove, and on
>the basis of your 'content-free' advocacy posts here, the balance
>of probability lies with Gary.
Unbeknownst to an outsider like yourself I actually can suss out a
lot more about this machine and its capabilities than you would
think. The basis for that machine was a WE4040/scsi2/128M running a
ZorroIII graphics card complete with an ethernet link.
What's missing is a description of his HD's - scsi or native ide.
Is that important? Another thing is the fact that he kept his MB
ram instead of removing it as everybody with a half a clue did.
Why? Didn't he know what it caused?
The software itself only indicates his uses and preferences and he
sees no use for a replacement shell like WSHell written by the same
person that gave the Amiga ARexx. Having GeekGadgets installed
also raises no envy from him or even shows that he has an awareness
of what it would mean.
>>"My A4K/WE4040/136MB/SCSI2/PIV is a bit more powerful than your
>>otherwise similarly decked out A3K."
>And you had a fit of jealousy and invented your test. Is that it?
Ah, that was from a set of posts he made where he crowed about a
more powerful machine and quickly realised that he mispoke and had
made a fool of himself.
The test was in place long before Mr. Beeton made his outrageous
demand that I should just "trust him".
>>Now on to the Amiga bashing part of Gary's agenda:
>>"Yes, well, it's a bit overused when talking about Amiga
>>hardware. Can we just assume that if we are talking about Amiga
>>hardware that it IS obsolete without actually having to say it?"
>It is a perspective, one your stuck-in-the-past mindset does not
>like.
Stuck-in-the-past mindset? ROTFL! Good one.
Just because I bought a 32bit pre-emptive multitasking machine over
sixteen years ago with an integrated GUI/CLI which still works
amazingly well when measured against the last two or three
iterations of Windows/Mac offerings I am stuck-in-the-past? ROTFL!!
That little blurb attested to the likelihood that he still had or
used an Amiga.
Gary Beeton
news:u0.p0.cR2MEJ...@zool.com:
> To shut me up you simply posted from UAe.
It didn't work. In spades!
> Another thing is the fact that he kept his MB
> ram instead of removing it as everybody with a half a clue did.
> Why?
I told TerryTroll why. As usual, the truth didn't suit his agenda so
he dismissed it.
> Didn't he know what it caused?
Unlike TerryTroll, yes I did.
> The software itself only indicates his uses and preferences and he
> sees no use for a replacement shell like WSHell written by the same
> person that gave the Amiga ARexx. Having GeekGadgets installed
> also raises no envy from him or even shows that he has an awareness
> of what it would mean.
TerryTroll has never been able to answer the question: What does
TerryTroll USE WShell or GeekGadgets for? Unlike TerryTroll, I don't
bother installing software I don't need or use.
> Stuck-in-the-past mindset? ROTFL! Good one.
>
> Just because I bought a 32bit pre-emptive multitasking machine over
> sixteen years ago with an integrated GUI/CLI which still works
> amazingly well when measured against the last two or three
> iterations of Windows/Mac offerings I am stuck-in-the-past? ROTFL!!
TerryTroll doesn't think making do with 16 year old computer
technology constitutes a stuck-in-the-past mindset??? Wow!
--
Gary Beeton
Gary Beeton
news:dq3cnvk94u33fs52s...@4ax.com:
> On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:45:52 -0000, "tpalfrey" <tpal...@zool.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>Now, tell us again, what is it that you do?
>>
>>Ask Beeton, he has a list of apps that I use that are eqivalents to
>>his.
>
> What do you USE your machine for, and what do you work at?
TerryTroll has consistently refused to answer that question. My guess
is that all he ever uses his Amiga for is newsgroup trolling. Even
then he uses PCs as often as he uses his "preferred" system.
--
Gary Beeton
tpalfrey
>"tpalfrey" <tpal...@zool.com> wrote in
>news:u0.p0.cR2MEJ...@zool.com:
>> To shut me up you simply posted from UAe.
>It didn't work. In spades!
>> Another thing is the fact that he kept his MB ram instead of
>> removing it as everybody with a half a clue did. Why?
>I told TerryTroll why. As usual, the truth didn't suit his agenda
>so he dismissed it.
Ooops, no he didn't, he just added it to the deficit column of your
actual Amiga knowledge.
>> Didn't he know what it caused?
>Unlike TerryTroll, yes I did.
Ahh, so what does it cause?
>> The software itself only indicates his uses and preferences and
>> he sees no use for a replacement shell like WSHell written by
>> the same person that gave the Amiga ARexx. Having GeekGadgets
>> installed also raises no envy from him or even shows that he has
>> an awareness of what it would mean.
>TerryTroll has never been able to answer the question: What does
>TerryTroll USE WShell or GeekGadgets for? Unlike TerryTroll, I
>don't bother installing software I don't need or use.
OK. It was directed to the part about your overall Amiga expertise.
>> Stuck-in-the-past mindset? ROTFL! Good one.
>> Just because I bought a 32bit pre-emptive multitasking machine
>> over sixteen years ago with an integrated GUI/CLI which still
>> works amazingly well when measured against the last two or three
>> iterations of Windows/Mac offerings I am stuck-in-the-past?
>> ROTFL!!
>TerryTroll doesn't think making do with 16 year old computer
>technology constitutes a stuck-in-the-past mindset??? Wow!
That 16 year old technology and OS engenders a mindset that is just
beginning to percolate through the rest of the world now that they
have enough horsepower to see it working with the pig OS's.
tpalfrey
>On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:37:56 -0000, "tpalfrey"
>wrote:
>>The point dear sir is that while what you say may be true it is
>>not related in any way to what I said. You do remember the
>>`reading for comprehension' thread do you not?
>A thread about 'reading for comprehension' started by a person
>with a proven inability to write for comprehension is about as
>informative as an article on artic survival written by a tribesman
>who had never left his village in Africa.
Really, is that why you totally disregard it?
>>The main and most salient point was, that while things were
>>present they were not set up, which to most reasonable people
>>would mean that OE was being used `out of the box'. It has
>>nothing to do with your trained monkeys or your penchant for
>>misdirection.
>No OE configuration element would result in the 'multiple post'
>problem, other than (as an outside possibility) the server
>parameter. Try again.
Hmm, got me then, I have no idea.
tpalfrey
>On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:45:52 -0000, "tpalfrey"
>wrote:
>>You were the one that pulled Qark out of your hat, the rest is
>>history and it doesn't look good on you.
>I remember writing a comparison based on specs which you failed
>respond to, which looks bad on you. What looks bad for me is my
>business, and frankly is of little consequence to me.
You're lucky you still have your STFU card and that the general
public has no access your no-archive posts.
>>>Now, tell us again, what is it that you do?
>>Ask Beeton, he has a list of apps that I use that are equivalents
>>to his.
>What do you USE your machine for, and what do you work at?
>>My answer is, "Whatever I want".
>Good answer. Not.
Tough, what's the reason for your curiosity? Getting bored without
Steve to kick around or just plain nosy?
tpalfrey
And that's all you have isn't it? Your guesses, too bad you
couldn't be civil enough to play the Amiga proof game and had to be
such a dick head. Funny thing though, it was your bridge you burned
you pointy headed troll.
So have fun passing tags back and forth between yourself and Noel,
at least he proved he could post from an "Amiga" that he was
actually running.
Gary Beeton
news:A4.64.cR2qKv...@zool.com:
> "Gary Beeton" writes:
>
>>TerryTroll has consistently refused to answer that question. My
>>guess is that all he ever uses his Amiga for is newsgroup
>>trolling. Even then he uses PCs as often as he uses his
>>"preferred" system.
>
> And that's all you have isn't it? Your guesses, too bad you
> couldn't be civil enough to play the Amiga proof game and had to be
> such a dick head. Funny thing though, it was your bridge you burned
> you pointy headed troll.
TerryTroll's reply proves that my guess is correct.
--
Gary Beeton
Gary Beeton
news:q3.m3.cR2gKj...@zool.com:
> "Gary Beeton" writes:
>
>>"tpalfrey" <tpal...@zool.com> wrote in
>>news:u0.p0.cR2MEJ...@zool.com:
>
>>> Another thing is the fact that he kept his MB ram instead of
>>> removing it as everybody with a half a clue did. Why?
>
>>I told TerryTroll why. As usual, the truth didn't suit his agenda
>>so he dismissed it.
>
> Ooops, no he didn't
Subject: Re: Terry's Theme
From: Gary Beeton <gbe...@shaw.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Message-ID: <Xns93FA4F538E4...@24.66.94.159>
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 00:29:18 MDT
<quote>
> Now about keeping the motherboard based ram on your A4000 which is
> a machine you actually know something about...why did you?
??? Yet another question from way out in left field. Desperate to
change the
subject again, TrollBoy? If you ever actually *did* anything with
your Amiga you
would know that you can never have too much RAM, especially given the
lack of
page-swapping and the memory limitaions inherent in the Amiga
platform. Any other
stupid questions?
</quote>
So tell us, TerryTroll, what is your motivation for pretending that I
hadn't told you? Didn't like the answer perhaps? Didn't suit your
agenda?
>>> Didn't he know what it caused?
>
>>Unlike TerryTroll, yes I did.
>
> Ahh, so what does it cause?
It causes TerryTroll to invent conspiracy theories.
It also causes my system to have more memory, with the following
limitations:
1) Motherboard RAM is slower than RAM on the WarpEngine accelerator
card. However, motherboard RAM is also lower priority than WE RAM,
so it only gets used when needed (I.E. when it's run out of WE RAM).
2) Motherboard RAM is not contiguous with WE RAM. Owing to the lack
of VM in AOS, some applications require that the memory it uses be in
one contiguous block.
>>> The software itself only indicates his uses and preferences and
>>> he sees no use for a replacement shell like WSHell written by
>>> the same person that gave the Amiga ARexx. Having GeekGadgets
>>> installed also raises no envy from him or even shows that he has
>>> an awareness of what it would mean.
>
>>TerryTroll has never been able to answer the question: What does
>>TerryTroll USE WShell or GeekGadgets for? Unlike TerryTroll, I
>>don't bother installing software I don't need or use.
>
> OK. It was directed to the part about your overall Amiga expertise.
See what I mean! Once again Terry dodges, ducks, weaves, and bobs
the question.
> That 16 year old technology and OS engenders a mindset that is just
> beginning to percolate through the rest of the world now that they
> have enough horsepower to see it working with the pig OS's.
You may have been able to defend that argument 10 years ago. But
things have moved on since then. Big time! Sadly AOS and "current"
Amiga hardware fall way far behind today's performance/capability
curve. You'd see that if you didn't have such a stuck-in-the-past
mindset.
--
Gary Beeton
tpalfrey
>On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 04:23:47 -0000, "tpalfrey"
>wrote:
>>Ooops, no he didn't, he just added it to the deficit column of
>>your actual Amiga knowledge.
>Save it for someone who gives a shit, Terry.
Oooh, don't the details matter to you?
>>That 16 year old technology and OS engenders a mindset that is
>>just beginning to percolate through the rest of the world now
>>that they have enough horsepower to see it working with the pig
>>OS's.
>Oh, so that's why MacOS X and Windows XP are so much more capable
>and powerful?
Well at least they multitask better, too bad it takes a tank to
make it move.
tpalfrey
>"tpalfrey" <tpal...@zool.com> wrote in
>news:q3.m3.cR2gKj...@zool.com:
>> "Gary Beeton" writes:
>>>"tpalfrey" <tpal...@zool.com> wrote in
>>>news:u0.p0.cR2MEJ...@zool.com:
>>>> Another thing is the fact that he kept his MB ram instead of
>>>> removing it as everybody with a half a clue did. Why?
>>>I told TerryTroll why. As usual, the truth didn't suit his
>>>agenda so he dismissed it.
>> Ooops, no he didn't
>Subject: Re: Terry's Theme
>From: Gary Beeton <gbe...@shaw.ca> Newsgroups:
>comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Message-ID:
><Xns93FA4F538E4...@24.66.94.159> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003
>00:29:18 MDT
><quote>
>> Now about keeping the motherboard based ram on your A4000 which
>> is a machine you actually know something about...why did you?
>??? Yet another question from way out in left field. Desperate
>to change the subject again, TrollBoy? If you ever actually
>*did* anything with your Amiga you would know that you can never
>have too much RAM, especially given the lack of page-swapping and
>the memory limitaions inherent in the Amiga platform. Any
>otherstupid questions?
></quote>
>So tell us, TerryTroll, what is your motivation for pretending
>that I hadn't told you? Didn't like the answer perhaps? Didn't
>suit your agenda?
Oh, "you can never have enough ram" was your answer?
>>>> Didn't he know what it caused?
>>>Unlike TerryTroll, yes I did.
>> Ahh, so what does it cause?
>It causes TerryTroll to invent conspiracy theories.
ROTFL! Good one.
>It also causes my system to have more memory, with the following
>limitations:
>1) Motherboard RAM is slower than RAM on the WarpEngine
>accelerator card. However, motherboard RAM is also lower
>priority than WE RAM, so it only gets used when needed (I.E. when
>it's run out of WE RAM).
With the cost of slowing down the WE based memory as well, right?
>2) Motherboard RAM is not contiguous with WE RAM. Owing to the
>lack of VM in AOS, some applications require that the memory it
>uses be in one contiguous block.
Ah, yah, like the old AdPro workarounds and all those lowfrag,
defrag and mempool utilities.
>>>> The software itself only indicates his uses and preferences
>>>> and he sees no use for a replacement shell like WSHell written
>>>> by the same person that gave the Amiga ARexx. Having
>>>> GeekGadgets installed also raises no envy from him or even
>>>> shows that he has an awareness of what it would mean.
>>>TerryTroll has never been able to answer the question: What
>>>TerryTroll USE WShell or GeekGadgets for? Unlike TerryTroll, I
>>>don't bother installing software I don't need or use.
>> OK. It was directed to the part about your overall Amiga
>> expertise.
>See what I mean! Once again Terry dodges, ducks, weaves, and bobs
>the question.
Really? I'm sure it is no worse than your avoidance of plugging in
your Amiga for one, single, but extremely informative post.
>> That 16 year old technology and OS engenders a mindset that is
>> just beginning to percolate through the rest of the world now
>> that they have enough horsepower to see it working with the pig
>> OS's.
>You may have been able to defend that argument 10 years ago. But
>things have moved on since then. Big time! Sadly AOS and
>"current" Amiga hardware fall way far behind today's
>performance/capability curve. You'd see that if you didn't have
>such a stuck-in-the-past mindset.
Depends on what you do with your computer. A 486 will still perform
more than adequately running a dos environment.
tpalfrey
>On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 04:25:50 -0000, "tpalfrey"
>wrote:
>>>A thread about 'reading for comprehension' started by a person
>>>with a proven inability to write for comprehension is about as
>>>informative as an article on artic survival written by a
>>>tribesman who had never left his village in Africa.
>>Really, is that why you totally disregard it?
>I disregard it as you are the last person who should be lecturing
>others on reading comprehension and inevitably such posts are full
>of meaningless waffle.
Ah, your old fallback.
>>>No OE configuration element would result in the 'multiple post'
>>>problem, other than (as an outside possibility) the server
>>>parameter. Try again.
>>Hmm, got me then, I have no idea.
>Server problems, internet connection problems.
There we have it. Case solved.
Thanks Noel.
tpalfrey
>On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 04:30:55 -0000, "tpalfrey"
>wrote:
>>You're lucky you still have your STFU card and that the general
>>public has no access your no-archive posts.
>Fire away Terry, if you want to allow the general public to see
>what a pathetic worm you are, archiving posts of others, then
>fine. It poses no problems for me.
I just thought it was a funny response when you know your posts are
unarchived. Why would you let me present just my side of the story?
Any one with half a brain might use that against you and only
answer to certain parts of your posts which would give a skewed
picture of what went on.
>>Tough, what's the reason for your curiosity? Getting bored
>>without Steve to kick around or just plain nosy?
>Just plain nosey.
Hadda hunch.
tpalfrey
>"tpalfrey" <tpal...@zool.com> wrote in
>news:A4.64.cR2qKv...@zool.com:
>> "Gary Beeton" writes:
>>>TerryTroll has consistently refused to answer that question.
>>>guess is that all he ever uses his Amiga for is newsgroup
>>>trolling. Even then he uses PCs as often as he uses his
>>>"preferred" system.
>> And that's all you have isn't it? Your guesses, too bad you
>> couldn't be civil enough to play the Amiga proof game and had to
>> be such a dick head. Funny thing though, it was your bridge you
>> burned you pointy headed troll.
>TerryTroll's reply proves that my guess is correct.
What? That you arent' civil? That you burned your own bridge?
Gary Beeton
news:S9.O9.eR2hGv...@zool.com:
Still no answer to the question, eh TerryTroll? What's the matter,
are you embarrassed by how little you actually use that "preferred"
system of yours?
--
Gary Beeton
Gary Beeton
news:A9.49.eR2RGT...@zool.com:
> "Gary Beeton" writes:
>
>>So tell us, TerryTroll, what is your motivation for pretending
>>that I hadn't told you? Didn't like the answer perhaps? Didn't
>>suit your agenda?
>
> Oh, "you can never have enough ram" was your answer?
Yes. Sorry, was that too obvious for you?
>>It also causes my system to have more memory, with the following
>>limitations:
>
>>1) Motherboard RAM is slower than RAM on the WarpEngine
>>accelerator card. However, motherboard RAM is also lower
>>priority than WE RAM, so it only gets used when needed (I.E. when
>>it's run out of WE RAM).
>
> With the cost of slowing down the WE based memory as well, right?
No, why, is that the way your CSPPC works? Ugh!
>>2) Motherboard RAM is not contiguous with WE RAM. Owing to the
>>lack of VM in AOS, some applications require that the memory it
>>uses be in one contiguous block.
>
> Ah, yah, like the old AdPro workarounds and all those lowfrag,
> defrag and mempool utilities.
Then you DO know why VM would be a good thing for AOS to have.
>>>>TerryTroll has never been able to answer the question: What
>>>>TerryTroll USE WShell or GeekGadgets for? Unlike TerryTroll, I
>>>>don't bother installing software I don't need or use.
>
>>> OK. It was directed to the part about your overall Amiga
>>> expertise.
>
>>See what I mean! Once again Terry dodges, ducks, weaves, and bobs
>>the question.
>
> Really? I'm sure it is no worse than your avoidance of plugging in
> your Amiga for one, single, but extremely informative post.
You just did it again. Why is that? Are you embarrassed to admit
that you don't actually USE WShell or GeekGadgets?
>>You may have been able to defend that argument 10 years ago. But
>>things have moved on since then. Big time! Sadly AOS and
>>"current" Amiga hardware fall way far behind today's
>>performance/capability curve. You'd see that if you didn't have
>>such a stuck-in-the-past mindset.
>
> Depends on what you do with your computer. A 486 will still perform
> more than adequately running a dos environment.
It's statements like that that have earned you the "stuck-in-the-
past" label.
--
Gary Beeton
Terry
"Noel" <no.t...@I.dont.want.your.spam> wrote in message
> On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 00:10:51 -0000, "tpalfrey" <tpal...@zool.com>
> wrote:
> >>I disregard it as you are the last person who should be lecturing
> >>others on reading comprehension and inevitably such posts are full
> >>of meaningless waffle.
> >Ah, your old fallback.
> Well, you have an award for it. What more can I say?
Most Confusing Writer.
Not confused.
It was about others missing my point not about me not having one.
Terry
Gary Beeton
@corp.supernews.com:
>
> "Noel" <no.t...@I.dont.want.your.spam> wrote in message
> news:7keinv88408jgfvg1...@4ax.com...
>
>> Well, you have an award for it. What more can I say?
>
> Most Confusing Writer.
Effect.
> Not confused.
Cause.
> It was about others missing my point not about me not having one.
Or so you'd like to believe.
--
Gary Beeton
Paul
> "tpalfrey" <tpal...@zool.com> wrote in
> news:A9.49.eR2RGT...@zool.com:
>> Depends on what you do with your computer. A 486 will still perform
>> more than adequately running a dos environment.
>
> It's statements like that that have earned you the "stuck-in-the-
> past" label.
Take one 486, add a gentoo tarball and some compile time and bingo, you've
got yourself a nice firewall/proxy. Not every machine has to be an
all-singing, all-dancing 'multimedia' powerhouse.
Gary Beeton
news:pan.2003.10.01....@mymachine.mydomain.com:
> Take one 486, add a gentoo tarball and some compile time and
> bingo, you've got yourself a nice firewall/proxy. Not every
> machine has to be an all-singing, all-dancing 'multimedia'
> powerhouse.
Yes, I'm aware of that. However, just because it is still possible to
find a use for an old 486 box that doesn't mean, as Terry was trying to
argue, that his 16 year old Amiga system is every bit as powerful and
useful as modern PC technology.
--
Gary Beeton
tpalfrey
>On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 23:58:32 -0000, "tpalfrey"
>wrote:
>>>On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 04:23:47 -0000, "tpalfrey" wrote:
>>Oooh, don't the details matter to you?
>No, what you consider 'details' do not matter to me.
Ah, small wonder that.
>>>>That 16 year old technology and OS engenders a mindset that is
>>>>just beginning to percolate through the rest of the world now
>>>>that they have enough horsepower to see it working with the
>>>>OS's.
>>>Oh, so that's why MacOS X and Windows XP are so much more
>>>capable and powerful?
>>Well at least they multitask better, too bad it takes a tank to
>>make it move.
>And they are capable of performing tasks your 'preferred'
>could not even hope to do.
Yah, I guess we have to make do with apps instead of having a
kitchen sink OS.
tpalfrey
>"tpalfrey" <tpal...@zool.com> wrote in
>news:A9.49.eR2RGT...@zool.com:
>> "Gary Beeton" writes:
>>>So tell us, TerryTroll, what is your motivation for pretending
>>>that I hadn't told you? Didn't like the answer perhaps?
>>>Didn't suit your agenda?
>> Oh, "you can never have enough ram" was your answer?
>Yes. Sorry, was that too obvious for you?
Way. I don't work with the size of images etc. that you work with.
Something about knowing the capacity of my machine and where the
drop off is for performance over capacity.
>>>It also causes my system to have more memory, with the
>>>limitations:
>>>1) Motherboard RAM is slower than RAM on the WarpEngine
>>>accelerator card. However, motherboard RAM is also lower
>>>priority than WE RAM, so it only gets used when needed (I.E.
>>>when it's run out of WE RAM).
>> With the cost of slowing down the WE based memory as well,
>> right?
>No, why, is that the way your CSPPC works? Ugh!
Uh, I think that is the way the WE works, but gee I could be wrong.
After all my experience is through the A3K where motherboard ram
was the first thing removed because of incompatibilities and
general slowdowns. I just carried that forward to the A4K and found
no one in disagreement with that principle because they had removed
it as well as soon as they mounted an accelerator.
>>>2) Motherboard RAM is not contiguous with WE RAM. Owing to the
>>>lack of VM in AOS, some applications require that the memory
>>>uses be in one contiguous block.
>> Ah, yah, like the old AdPro workarounds and all those lowfrag,
>> defrag and mempool utilities.
>Then you DO know why VM would be a good thing for AOS to have.
Well since you are so fired certain that I need a max amount of
memory, I actually did something about it.
12:10:Workbench:GeekGadgets> avail
Type Available In-Use Maximum Largest
chip 1817816 275240 2093056 1812464
fast 237554896 30880560 268435456 134217696
total 239372712 31155800 270528512 134217696
But for other programs VMem works fine.
>>>>>TerryTroll has never been able to answer the question: What
>>>>>TerryTroll USE WShell or GeekGadgets for? Unlike TerryTroll,
>>>>>I don't bother installing software I don't need or use.
>>>> OK. It was directed to the part about your overall Amiga
>>>> expertise.
>>>See what I mean! Once again Terry dodges, ducks, weaves, and
>>>bobs the question.
>> Really? I'm sure it is no worse than your avoidance of plugging
>> in your Amiga for one, single, but extremely informative post.
>You just did it again. Why is that? Are you embarrassed to admit
>that you don't actually USE WShell or GeekGadgets?
Actually Gary I do, others have demanded that AOS have all sorts of
things included in it to be a proper OS, I on the other hand like
the unix model of many small tools joining together to accomplish
larger tasks. Arexx and WShell are the glue for that and
GeekGadgets is a toolchest.
>>>You may have been able to defend that argument 10 years ago.
>>>But things have moved on since then. Big time! Sadly AOS and
>>>"current" Amiga hardware fall way far behind today's
>>>performance/capability curve. You'd see that if you didn't
>>>have such a stuck-in-the-past mindset.
>> Depends on what you do with your computer. A 486 will still
>> perform more than adequately running a dos environment.
>It's statements like that that have earned you the "stuck-in-the-
>past" label.
Actually, you can call it anything you want, not everyone will
agree with you.
tpalfrey
>On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 00:08:45 -0000, "tpalfrey"
>wrote:
>>Really? I'm sure it is no worse than your avoidance of plugging
>>in your Amiga for one, single, but extremely informative post.
>Perhaps your attempts to dictate how he uses Amiga(s) are getting
>up his nose.
He's already admitted to what he used his Amiga for. He has clearly
stated what he thinks of Amigas in comparison to his Dell PC. And
if he doesn't want to make the effort to prove that he still has a
working Amiga that's on his own hook. But, I'll be double dipped if
I have to allow him any credibility about his statements.
Simple cause and effect as Gary is so fond of pointing out.
tpalfrey
And if you get one of those tricked out 486's that cost thousands
back when, you can also set up a nice dos based environment to play
my favourite game, "Z".