and to the following User's groups :
1) Los Angeles Amiga Users Group @1711 Altivo Way Los Angeles CA 90026
2) 1st Amiga Users Group @543 Old Colony Road San Carlos CA 94070
3) Amiga Users Group @PO Box 3761 Cherry Hill NJ 08034
4) New York Amiga Users Group @151 1st Avenue Suite 182 New York NY
10003
5) Economy Amiga Users Group @189 Pinewood Road Hartsdale NY 10530
6) Amiga Mouse Users Group BBS @PO Box 148 Central Islip NY 11722
7) Computer Users Group of Rochester @PO Box 23463 Rochester NY 14692
8) National Capital Area User Group @PO Box 18088 Washington DC
20036-8088
9) Baltimore Area Computer Club @PO Box 479 Reisterstown MD 21136-9998
10) Baltimore Amiga Users/Developers @243 West 31st Street Baltimore
MD 21121
11) The Computer Club @4843-a South 28th st. Arlington VA 22206
12) The Amigans @PO Box 411 Hatteras NC 27943
13) Carolina Amiga Users @2224 Airport Rd. West Columbia SC 29169
14) Amiga Info Exchange BBS @225 S. Clair Drive Panama City FL 32401
15) Central Florida Amiga Club @1056 Neely Street Oviedo FL 32765
16) Space Coast Amiga Users Group @PO Box 2096 Merritt Island FL 32952
17) Tampa Bay Amiga Group @920 South Rome Avenue Tampa FL 33606
18) Commodore Hardware Users Group @1322 Fairview Drive Greenfield IN
46140
19) Fort Wayne Amiga Users Group @183 Oak Park Drive Roanoke IN 46783
20) Indiana Amiga Advisors @912 South Brown Avenue Terre Haute IN
47803
21) Amiga Users Group PontiacMI @2548 Orchard Lake Rd. Pontiac MI
48053-2435
22) Gateway Amiga Club Inc. @14850 Phelps Bridgetown MO 63044
23) Greater Omaha Commodore Users Group @PO Box 241155 Omaha NE 68124
24) Nebraska Amiga Users Group @PO Box 2414 Lincoln NE 68502
25) Amiga Computer Enthusiasts @1111 N. St. Charles number 16 Oklahoma
City OK 73127
26) Amiga Users Club of Houston @6525 S. Gessner number 3100 Houston
TX 77036
27) North American Digital BBS @3512 East Grant Road Tucson AZ 85716
28) New Mexico Commodore Users Group @PO Box 37127 Albuquerque NM
87176
29) *** National Public Domain @1533 Avohill Dr. Vista CA 92083 ***
30) *** Valley Computer Club @505 Ryan Avenue Modesto CA 95350 ***
31) The Northwest Amiga Group @PO Box 1140 Oregon City OR 97045
32) Olympia Amiga Users Group @4104 Amber Ct. SE Olympia WA 98501
The remaining copies were sent to Amiga hardware and software vendors.
The disk was readable by the Scribble! word processor. It was a full
disk which when printed out was 160 pages of text. One of the
outstanding features was a list of highly recommended science fiction
novels, so sf fans may have been more interested than the usual run of
the mill. The remainder was a kitchen sink of blather. Basically it
was whatever came to my mind at the keyboard as a way to fill up the
disk. I was attempting to start up a monthly computer diskette
magazine, which made MUCH more sense in the days before the internet
than in the 90s up to now. The scheme was a dismal flop, with only
seven responses returned. So after publishing HotDisk 2 as promised
and sending it out to the respondents, I gave up on the idea.
What I would like to know is whether anyone still has a working Amiga
and Scribble! with the contents of the disk archived. If so then would
you please post a response on this thread, or alternatively privately
send me an email to cla...@comcast.net ? What I want is to publish
the contents of the disk on my Google group "Lonnie Courtney Clay" for
historical purposes. So I need to have plain text or HTML versions of
the files converted from Scribble! format. Of course I still have the
original disks, but they spent several years in the attic. So 99%
probability is that they are unreadable, hence my desperate plea. Also
I have not had a working Amiga since 1997.
Somewhat off topic, if you want to see a picture of me then check out
my orkut.com user "Lonnie Clay" in Arlington TN page. If you love rock
and roll, then check out my YouTube channel ClayLC2, with over 700
playlists and growing. For other things which I am doing, check out
Google group "Lonnie Courtney Clay". For example thread "Merry
Christmas!" posted July 23 provides specifications for easily
implemented data compression and encryption applications. Thread "I
make a pre-emptive total war nuclear strike against hackers" last
modified on July 1 is my revenge for being repeatedly hacked on
Windows XP and Vista machines. Thread "I discuss music and the English
Language" gives lists of movies which I liked from 1967 to present. I
am about to make a new thread in the next couple of days on that
topic, so if you are interested in old movies you might want to wait
for it rather than reading the current thread. In case you were
wondering, due to my radical political views and bad reputation (see
Google group rec.arts.sf.written thread "I claim the title of world's
greatest con artist!!!") nobody is interested in employing me
regardless of my talents. Someday the situation may evolve into a
hospitable environment, but I am not holding my breath waiting for
it.....
Thank you very much for taking the time to read this thread! Long live
Amiga! For so long as there are Amigans the dream will NEVER die,
regardless of how unsuccessful the official company may be! Time after
time Amiga has been pronounced dead on the operating table, but has
arisen from the grave to try yet again! Someday we will get it right
and BURY Microsoft with a stake through its heart like the blood
sucking EULA issuing and hacker loving vampire it is! In the meantime
do as I have and patronize Apple corporation, avoiding any contact
with the beast and its friends. I have an Apple Mac mini which has
been hacker free for over a month now. Considering that my Vista
machine was hacked and re-installed from manufacturer's configuration
several times in the four days which I used it, the Apple computer's
record is amazing.
Hasta La Vista Baby, and to Microsoft loving enemies reading this I
say - GO AHEAD, MAKE MY DAY!
anagram TARZAN Chic Logo Guy =
Laughing Crazy Coot/
Lonnie Courtney Clay
>Thank you very much for taking the time to read this thread! Long live
>Amiga! For so long as there are Amigans the dream will NEVER die,
>regardless of how unsuccessful the official company may be! Time after
>time Amiga has been pronounced dead on the operating table, but has
>arisen from the grave to try yet again! Someday we will get it right
>and BURY Microsoft with a stake through its heart like the blood
>sucking EULA issuing and hacker loving vampire it is! In the meantime
>do as I have and patronize Apple corporation, avoiding any contact
>with the beast and its friends. I have an Apple Mac mini which has
>been hacker free for over a month now. Considering that my Vista
>machine was hacked and re-installed from manufacturer's configuration
>several times in the four days which I used it, the Apple computer's
>record is amazing.
I'd help if I could.
If nobody can help you, try finding somebody with an Amiga and get the
disk copied asap, it may yet be okay. I don't have Scribble, but there has
to be a way.
Good luck.
All the best,
Angus Manwaring. (for e-mail remove ANTISPEM)
I need your memories for the Amiga Games Database: A collection of Amiga
Game reviews by Amiga players http://www.angusm.demon.co.uk/AGDB/AGDB.html
> Hello fellow Amigans! Back in Sept. 1986 I published an Amiga computer
> 3.5 inch 880 kbyte diskette called "Freedom Computing Publications"
> FCP-HotDisk 1. I sent 49 copies to California addresses of the 200
> which I sent out. In particular, I sent copies to :
[big snip]
> 31) The Northwest Amiga Group @PO Box 1140 Oregon City OR 97045
Ack! NAG just disbanded a year or two ago.
> The remaining copies were sent to Amiga hardware and software vendors.
With your permission, I will forward your message to Commodore/
Amiga mailing lists.
CommVEx v3 info at http://www.portcommodore.com/commvex
or http://www.commodore.ca/forum
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
I give my permission for anyone at all to contact anyone else at all
regarding this matter. I give my permission for anyone at all to do
whatever is necessary (without contacting me) to convert the original
two FCP-HotDisk 1&2 into whatever form is appropriate for posting the
unexpurgated contents on the internet. No further participation by me
is required, because (although I would be extremely pleased to see the
two disks published) I lack the expertise and resources to perform the
task myself. No compensation is forthcoming in this matter between any
of the parties involved. The only reward expected by anyone is the
satisfaction of seeing a minor event in Amiga history revealed to the
present public and future miners of internet archives. If those
statements are not sufficiently clear or fail to encompass all
potential legal disputes, then just post a response on this thread
which highlights the defect. I will respond in a timely fashion to
anyone who is willing to take the time to post on this thread.
Thanks for looking! It seems very likely that the original disks are
all unreadable. What is needed is somebody who copied their disk to a
hard drive. Then as computers upgraded over the years, the hard drive
copy was transferred along with other things to newer computers. As a
fallback position, I can buy a scanner and scan in the original
printouts....
Just a thought, get somebody to try the disk. It may well work, I've got
floppies here that are ancient and not given me any trouble.
That is a good suggestion! Now all I need is to find someone in my
area who has a working Amiga etc. etc. etc. I am reluctant to send it
through the mail, since it could so easily be damaged or lost. There
is no hurry, so I am willing to see what turns up as a result of this
post. Actually, before I even made this post I contacted a person
located by an internet search who had the whole ball of wax. So the
set of persons who still have it is not empty. Unfortunately, that
person lacks an Amiga, so I opened up this can of worms to see if
anything would squirm out....
Thank you very much! However I no longer use Microsoft products or
computers. I have an Apple Mac Mini. It has no 3.5 inch diskette port.
Rather than spend a week of your time on this, perhaps it would be
better to wait for the rumor mill to disperse my request until a
golden combination of a hard drive descendant of my disk, the
Scribble! word processor, an Amiga or comparable computer, and
interest in the project come together like magic. In a month or two if
nothing happens sooner, I will buy a scanner and scan the original
printouts, then post the results on Google group "Lonnie Courtney
Clay". So I have the essential piece of the puzzle myself. All that is
stopping me is the cost of buying hardware to perform the task. My
only income is a VA disability pension which I get for being
crazy......
http://sourceforge.net/projects/maxuae
If you do not have the OS and Roms go to Amiga Forever for a very
reasonable cost all you need is there.
Thank you very much for the two links! I will visit them as soon as I
post this. I hate to be such a moving target, but I am giving up on
Apple computers the way I gave up on Microsoft products. In the past
week I have encountered an apparently insurmountable problem with my
Mac Mini. Every minute or so it pops up a requester twice for "Unlock
Keychain" from Safari wanting me to unlock my login keychain. This is
a hacker initiated rather than website initiated request. If I oblige
and unlock it, then within a few minutes, I get the "beach ball of
death" and other problems. I tried to work out the problem by posting
on the Apple forum a request for how to suppress the popup, and was
given the runaround. So last night I purchased on the web a Sun Ultra
20 M2 Workstation, running Solaris and Linux. It has only a DVD
player, so I cannot put a 3.5 inch diskette into it anyway. I might
borrow a craposoft XP machine from my brother and use it offline to
try out the old disks, if as you say I can emulate an Amiga with a
modern machine. I am amazed to learn that somebody thought it
worthwhile to develop such software, unless it was Amigans who did it.
My situation reminds me of the Amiga game "Global Effect". It was a
primitive world simulator written by ecofreaks which pretended to be a
game. No matter how long you stretched out the game, the world died
either from pollution, global warming, or a catastrophic ice age.
There was NO way to win. The only triumph was in how long you could
avert disaster. What a bummer.....
> only income is a VA disability pension which I get for being
> crazy......
Yeah, I'd say that's a fair evaluation of the situation...
Thank you very much for your help! I live in Arlington TN, U.S.A.,
which is in Fayette county east of Shelby county. The city of Memphis
and small city of Bartlett in Shelby country are the nearest
population centers. My phone number is 901-867-3152. I will see what
information I can find about how to read Amiga formatted disks using
modern 3.5 inch floppy drives. There may be a real problem there
because the cylinder, sector, and track layouts changed with increased
density media long ago. What I would need to read my original disks is
probably a working Amiga. At one point I had two Amiga 1000 and an
Amiga 2000. But they were worn out, and some equipment was discarded
when I moved from Bartlett to Arlington in 2001. I offer all of my old
Amiga stuff to anyone who shows up at the door with a working Amiga
for processing my disks. That is at least two cartons of games and
books plus the hardware. As a sign of optimism, I will start digging
it out of the closets today!