First-time networker
Chris Manning
and the RPC and Windows boxes, which sit next to each other, have exchanged
pleasantries only by means of floppy discs, or, occasionally, CDs.
Some time ago I bought a second-hand networking card
*ehinfo
EtherH Version 4.33 � i-cubed ltd. 1997
which came with neither documentation nor supporting software, and now
I've acquired a wireless router, with which were supplied a USB wireless
adapter, a networking cable, and two CDs of largely superfluous software.
With the wireless adapter plugged into the PC, and the cable connecting
the router to my printer, I can configure the router and access the printer
from both Windows and linux; an LED on the router indicates that it can
"see" the printer.
With the same cable connecting the RPC to the router there is no LED,
and *ehinfo goes on to tell me
Card Info:- i-cubed, EtherLan 600 Ethernet StrongARM interface
Unit 0, slot 8, 16-bit driver.
Ethernet address=00:c0:32:00:65:b9
10Base2 (coax) interface in use.
I/O Stats:- Rxframes=0, Rxerrs=0, Txframes=0, Txerrs=0, DMAframes=0
Collisions=0, Rejects=0, NoMbuf=0, NoDMA=0
RXPending=0, DMABusy=0, TXActive=0, IRQActive=0
Frame Info:- Type=8035 FrmLvl=1 AddrLvl=2 ErrLvl=0 Handler=3adebe0
Type= 806 FrmLvl=1 AddrLvl=2 ErrLvl=0 Handler=3adebe0
Type= 800 FrmLvl=1 AddrLvl=2 ErrLvl=0 Handler=3adebe0
Controller Mode:- Multicast, reject frames with errors
Driver Info:- Bringup fail unit:0 error:134706
Driver Error:- Cable is not connected at unit 0
Is there something further I need to configure in order to persuade the
system that a working cable (not co-ax) is attached, or am I to assume
that the networking card's a notworking card, of even less use than the
StrongARM card purchased from the same source?
Chris
Chris Hughes
Chris Manning <chr...@spuddy.mew.co.uk> wrote:
> For many years I've used a dial-up connection for accessing the internet,
> and the RPC and Windows boxes, which sit next to each other, have exchanged
> pleasantries only by means of floppy discs, or, occasionally, CDs.
> Some time ago I bought a second-hand networking card
> *ehinfo
> EtherH Version 4.33 � i-cubed ltd. 1997
> which came with neither documentation nor supporting software, and now
> I've acquired a wireless router, with which were supplied a USB wireless
> adapter, a networking cable, and two CDs of largely superfluous software.
> With the wireless adapter plugged into the PC, and the cable connecting
> the router to my printer, I can configure the router and access the printer
> from both Windows and linux; an LED on the router indicates that it can
> "see" the printer.
> With the same cable connecting the RPC to the router there is no LED,
> and *ehinfo goes on to tell me
> Card Info:- i-cubed, EtherLan 600 Ethernet StrongARM interface
> Unit 0, slot 8, 16-bit driver.
> Ethernet address=00:c0:32:00:65:b9
> 10Base2 (coax) interface in use.
It trying to use the Coax connection instead of your ethernet cable -
its a common problem.
Ensure the cable is in the RiscPC network card before you start up
your RiscPC so it can see that cable when the computer starts up.
[snip]
> Is there something further I need to configure in order to persuade the
> system that a working cable (not co-ax) is attached, or am I to assume
> that the networking card's a notworking card, of even less use than the
> StrongARM card purchased from the same source?
Have you configured your network settings in !Configure.
You don't say which version of RISC OS you are using.
Also what is the IP address of the router? (which needs to be in the
Gateway settings of your RISC PC's Network setting so it knows where
to route the traffic too.).
You are also using a pretty old version of Messenger 1.41 (but that
can be looked at later).
You have also made some reference to StrongARM card as well - what's
that about? They work fine - do you have a problem with that as well ?
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Chris Hughes
Theo Markettos
> It trying to use the Coax connection instead of your ethernet cable -
> its a common problem.
>
> Ensure the cable is in the RiscPC network card before you start up
> your RiscPC so it can see that cable when the computer starts up.
And as well as the cable being plugged in, that whatever is on the other end
(the router?) is switched on before the Risc PC is turned on.
Theo
S G
> Some time ago I bought a second-hand networking card
> *ehinfo
> EtherH Version 4.33 � i-cubed ltd. 1997
> Card Info:- i-cubed, EtherLan 600 Ethernet StrongARM interface
> Unit 0, slot 8, 16-bit driver.
> Ethernet address=00:c0:32:00:65:b9
> 10Base2 (coax) interface in use.
> Driver Info:- Bringup fail unit:0 error:134706
> Driver Error:- Cable is not connected at unit 0
>
> Is there something further I need to configure in order to persuade the
> system that a working cable (not co-ax) is attached
Try:
*Configure EHConnection 10BaseT
I forget where it needs to go - someone else will tell you.
--
Stewart Goldwater
http://janusg.co.nr
Theo Markettos
> On 30 Aug, Chris Manning wrote:
> > Some time ago I bought a second-hand networking card
> > *ehinfo
>
> Try:
> *Configure EHConnection 10BaseT
> I forget where it needs to go - someone else will tell you.
That only works on firmware written by Design IT - I think that's v4.40 and
later. Switching things on in order is the only way with previous firmware
(an always-on hub or switch is the traditional way to ensure something is
connected to the port at power-on)
Theo
Chris Manning
Theo Markettos <theom...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>> Ensure the cable is in the RiscPC network card before you start up
>> your RiscPC so it can see that cable when the computer starts up.
> And as well as the cable being plugged in, that whatever is on the other
> end (the router?)
The router indeed. If, at this stage, I could just persuade NetSurf to
talk to the router, and display its configuration pages, I'd be making
progress.
> is switched on before the Risc PC is turned on.
It was.
My thanks to you (and others) for your help, but, in the absence of further
suggestions, I think I shall have to assume that my networking card is a
notworking card.
Chris
Dave Plowman (News)
Chris Manning <chr...@spuddy.mew.co.uk> wrote:
> The router indeed. If, at this stage, I could just persuade NetSurf to
> talk to the router, and display its configuration pages, I'd be making
> progress.
Pretty unlikely, IMHO. They all seem to use JavaScript. My Billion can be
accessed and programmed by Fresco - but not strangely by Oregano 1. My
previous router with neither - had to use a PC. If you want to be sure
your router can be set up using RISC OS, you'd probably need to buy from a
RISC OS dealer.
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Derek.Moody
<URL:mailto:da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <509A0E1BB9%chr...@spuddy.mew.co.uk>,
> Chris Manning <chr...@spuddy.mew.co.uk> wrote:
> > The router indeed. If, at this stage, I could just persuade NetSurf to
> > talk to the router, and display its configuration pages, I'd be making
> > progress.
>
> Pretty unlikely, IMHO. They all seem to use JavaScript. My Billion can be
> accessed and programmed by Fresco - but not strangely by Oregano 1. My
> previous router with neither - had to use a PC. If you want to be sure
> your router can be set up using RISC OS, you'd probably need to buy from a
> RISC OS dealer.
A great many can be set up via telnet - the html pages are just a front end
to the text based command set. A little more long winded perhaps but
accessible.
Cheerio,
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>> derek...@clara.net
Dave Plowman (News)
An idiot's guide to this would be useful - I've no idea what telnet is let
alone how to use it.
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Tim Powys-Lybbe
> In article <ant13224...@strongarm.dereks.pad>,
> Derek.Moody <derek...@clara.net> wrote:
> > In article <509a1f6...@davenoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News)
> > <URL:mailto:da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> > > In article <509A0E1BB9%chr...@spuddy.mew.co.uk>,
> > > Chris Manning <chr...@spuddy.mew.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > The router indeed. If, at this stage, I could just persuade
> > > > NetSurf to talk to the router, and display its configuration
> > > > pages, I'd be making progress.
> > >
> > > Pretty unlikely, IMHO. They all seem to use JavaScript. My Billion
> > > can be accessed and programmed by Fresco - but not strangely by
> > > Oregano 1. My previous router with neither - had to use a PC. If
> > > you want to be sure your router can be set up using RISC OS, you'd
> > > probably need to buy from a RISC OS dealer.
>
> > A great many can be set up via telnet - the html pages are just a
> > front end to the text based command set. A little more long winded
> > perhaps but accessible.
>
> An idiot's guide to this would be useful - I've no idea what telnet is
> let alone how to use it.
Get Nettle: http://nettle.sourceforge.net
Read instructions, particularly see "Dummies Guide" therein.
Enter address for your router.
Follow instructions for your router.
Easy?
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for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/
Brian Howlett
> On 14 Sep at 9:01, "Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
[snip]
>> An idiot's guide to this would be useful - I've no idea what telnet is
>> let alone how to use it.
> Get Nettle: http://nettle.sourceforge.net
> Read instructions, particularly see "Dummies Guide" therein. Enter
> address for your router. Follow instructions for your router.
> Easy?
Not all ADSL routers have telnet enabled, although some can be made to
work.
Which router are we discussing?
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Derek.Moody
Or if you have the old Ant suite then ANT terminal is worth trying - it will
fail if the router insists on SSH but none I have tried do so.
Cheerio,
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>> derek...@clara.net