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Barry Punchard
May 18, 2013, 2:25:22 PM5/18/13
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Is anyone going to continue with BTinternet (BT Yahoo) after 3rd June? I can't
get a straight answer from them about whether their webmail change on that date
will have any affect on POP3 services. Does anyone know?
It all looks sinister to me and after many decades, it looks like the time to
change. I have been paying BT 1.60 per month to keep using my original
btinternet.com email address.
Barry
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get a straight answer from them about whether their webmail change on that date
will have any affect on POP3 services. Does anyone know?
It all looks sinister to me and after many decades, it looks like the time to
change. I have been paying BT 1.60 per month to keep using my original
btinternet.com email address.
Barry
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Dave Plowman (News)
May 19, 2013, 6:27:14 AM5/19/13
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In article <535fe34d53.b...@barry.btinternet.com>,
address is to log into it twice a year. I've set PopStar to log into it
every time I log into my most used box - but then I upload using
mail.btinternet.com anyway.
The email is confusing suggesting you have to log in via Yahoo - but if
you go to the help page is says logging in via your email software is fine.
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Barry Punchard <barry.p...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Is anyone going to continue with BTinternet (BT Yahoo) after 3rd June? I
> can't get a straight answer from them about whether their webmail change
> on that date will have any affect on POP3 services. Does anyone know?
> It all looks sinister to me and after many decades, it looks like the
> time to change. I have been paying BT 1.60 per month to keep using my
> original btinternet.com email address.
Unless I've misread the email I got, all you have to do to keep the email
> Is anyone going to continue with BTinternet (BT Yahoo) after 3rd June? I
> can't get a straight answer from them about whether their webmail change
> on that date will have any affect on POP3 services. Does anyone know?
> It all looks sinister to me and after many decades, it looks like the
> time to change. I have been paying BT 1.60 per month to keep using my
> original btinternet.com email address.
address is to log into it twice a year. I've set PopStar to log into it
every time I log into my most used box - but then I upload using
mail.btinternet.com anyway.
The email is confusing suggesting you have to log in via Yahoo - but if
you go to the help page is says logging in via your email software is fine.
--
*'Progress' and 'Change' are not synonyms.
Dave Plowman da...@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.
Barry Punchard
May 19, 2013, 10:35:32 AM5/19/13
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On 19 May da...@davenoise.co.uk wrote:
> In article <535fe34d53.b...@barry.btinternet.com>,
> Barry Punchard <barry.p...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > Is anyone going to continue with BTinternet (BT Yahoo) after 3rd June? I
> > can't get a straight answer from them about whether their webmail change
> > on that date will have any affect on POP3 services. Does anyone know?
> >
> In article <535fe34d53.b...@barry.btinternet.com>,
> Barry Punchard <barry.p...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > Is anyone going to continue with BTinternet (BT Yahoo) after 3rd June? I
> > can't get a straight answer from them about whether their webmail change
> > on that date will have any affect on POP3 services. Does anyone know?
> >
> Unless I've misread the email I got, all you have to do to keep the email
> address is to log into it twice a year. I've set PopStar to log into it
> every time I log into my most used box - but then I upload using
> mail.btinternet.com anyway.
>
> The email is confusing suggesting you have to log in via Yahoo - but if
> you go to the help page is says logging in via your email software is fine.
>
They keep saying you MUST 'upgrade', but that can only apply to webmail. I have
> address is to log into it twice a year. I've set PopStar to log into it
> every time I log into my most used box - but then I upload using
> mail.btinternet.com anyway.
>
> The email is confusing suggesting you have to log in via Yahoo - but if
> you go to the help page is says logging in via your email software is fine.
>
told them that most certainly the POP3 protocol hasn't changed, so there is
nothing for the POP user to upgrade. They say the 'upgrade' implies giving them
permission to extract certain additional information from your computer, but
only give one example of what it WON'T be used for and not what it will be used
for..
Dave Plowman (News)
May 19, 2013, 10:47:00 AM5/19/13
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In article <a92a524e53.b...@barry.btinternet.com>,
**************************
BT My BT Help
Important changes to your BT email terms
Hello,
We're changing the terms and conditions for accessing the email that comes
with your BT Broadband - BT Yahoo! Mail.
From 17 June this year, you'll need to log in to your email account at
least once every 150 days. If you don't, we'll presume you don't use your
email account anymore and we'll close it. Read our new terms and
conditions.
How to keep your BT email
Make sure you use your email at least once every 150 days by logging on at
bt.yahoo.com, using your computer email software (like Microsoft Outlook
or Mozilla Thunderbird) or checking your email on your smartphone. If you
don't, we'll close the account and delete everything that goes with it -
including your emails, contacts, calendar and notes.
If you haven't used an account since 18 Jan or if you're not sure when you
last logged in, just log in before 17 June and at least once every 150
days after.
If we do close your account, you can still use the email address to log in
to BT Wi-fi or other BT services. You just won't be able to use it for
email.
If you don't want to keep your BT email
That's fine. Just don't use it anymore. Then, from 17 June, we'll close
any accounts that haven't been used for 150 days.
Make it easier for us to get in touch with you
The next time you log in to bt.com, make sure the email address you used
for My BT is one you check regularly. If it isn't, change it to one you
do.
Change your contact details now.
Need some help?
To find out more about these changes, go to bt.com/help/emailterms.
Thanks for choosing BT.
Warren Buckley
Managing Director, Customer Service
Please don't reply to this email - it's been automatically generated by
our computer. If you need to get in touch, go to www.bt.com/contact
Log in| Contact us| Privacy policy
� British Telecommunications plc 2013.
We're registered in England at 81 Newgate Street, London EC1A 7AJ (company
number 1800000).
All this information was correct on the date we sent this email. See terms
and conditions
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Barry Punchard <barry.p...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> On 19 May da...@davenoise.co.uk wrote:
> > In article <535fe34d53.b...@barry.btinternet.com>,
> > Barry Punchard <barry.p...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > > Is anyone going to continue with BTinternet (BT Yahoo) after 3rd
> > > June? I can't get a straight answer from them about whether their
> > > webmail change on that date will have any affect on POP3 services.
> > > Does anyone know?
> > >
> > Unless I've misread the email I got, all you have to do to keep the
> > email address is to log into it twice a year. I've set PopStar to log
> > into it every time I log into my most used box - but then I upload
> > using mail.btinternet.com anyway.
> >
> > The email is confusing suggesting you have to log in via Yahoo - but
> > if you go to the help page is says logging in via your email software
> > is fine.
> >
> They keep saying you MUST 'upgrade', but that can only apply to webmail.
> I have told them that most certainly the POP3 protocol hasn't changed,
> so there is nothing for the POP user to upgrade. They say the 'upgrade'
> implies giving them permission to extract certain additional information
> from your computer, but only give one example of what it WON'T be used
> for and not what it will be used for..
This is the email I got:-
> On 19 May da...@davenoise.co.uk wrote:
> > In article <535fe34d53.b...@barry.btinternet.com>,
> > Barry Punchard <barry.p...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > > Is anyone going to continue with BTinternet (BT Yahoo) after 3rd
> > > June? I can't get a straight answer from them about whether their
> > > webmail change on that date will have any affect on POP3 services.
> > > Does anyone know?
> > >
> > Unless I've misread the email I got, all you have to do to keep the
> > email address is to log into it twice a year. I've set PopStar to log
> > into it every time I log into my most used box - but then I upload
> > using mail.btinternet.com anyway.
> >
> > The email is confusing suggesting you have to log in via Yahoo - but
> > if you go to the help page is says logging in via your email software
> > is fine.
> >
> They keep saying you MUST 'upgrade', but that can only apply to webmail.
> I have told them that most certainly the POP3 protocol hasn't changed,
> so there is nothing for the POP user to upgrade. They say the 'upgrade'
> implies giving them permission to extract certain additional information
> from your computer, but only give one example of what it WON'T be used
> for and not what it will be used for..
**************************
BT My BT Help
Important changes to your BT email terms
Hello,
We're changing the terms and conditions for accessing the email that comes
with your BT Broadband - BT Yahoo! Mail.
From 17 June this year, you'll need to log in to your email account at
least once every 150 days. If you don't, we'll presume you don't use your
email account anymore and we'll close it. Read our new terms and
conditions.
How to keep your BT email
Make sure you use your email at least once every 150 days by logging on at
bt.yahoo.com, using your computer email software (like Microsoft Outlook
or Mozilla Thunderbird) or checking your email on your smartphone. If you
don't, we'll close the account and delete everything that goes with it -
including your emails, contacts, calendar and notes.
If you haven't used an account since 18 Jan or if you're not sure when you
last logged in, just log in before 17 June and at least once every 150
days after.
If we do close your account, you can still use the email address to log in
to BT Wi-fi or other BT services. You just won't be able to use it for
email.
If you don't want to keep your BT email
That's fine. Just don't use it anymore. Then, from 17 June, we'll close
any accounts that haven't been used for 150 days.
Make it easier for us to get in touch with you
The next time you log in to bt.com, make sure the email address you used
for My BT is one you check regularly. If it isn't, change it to one you
do.
Change your contact details now.
Need some help?
To find out more about these changes, go to bt.com/help/emailterms.
Thanks for choosing BT.
Warren Buckley
Managing Director, Customer Service
Please don't reply to this email - it's been automatically generated by
our computer. If you need to get in touch, go to www.bt.com/contact
Log in| Contact us| Privacy policy
� British Telecommunications plc 2013.
We're registered in England at 81 Newgate Street, London EC1A 7AJ (company
number 1800000).
All this information was correct on the date we sent this email. See terms
and conditions
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Bruce Goatly
May 19, 2013, 6:16:12 PM5/19/13
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> This is the email I got:-
[snip]
> This is the email I got:-
> If you don't want to keep your BT email
>
> That's fine. Just don't use it anymore. Then, from 17 June, we'll
> close any accounts that haven't been used for 150 days.
former subscriber has written a well-argued and apparently well-merited
diatribe about this in
http://community.bt.com/t5/Other-BB-Queries/BT-email-accounts-hacked/m-p/851812/highlight/true#M51074
and following posts in the thread.
If not, this has serious data protection implications.
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Dave Plowman (News)
May 19, 2013, 6:46:46 PM5/19/13
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download posts and they appear to be deleted from there afterwards.
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Bruce Goatly <s...@goatly.co.uk> wrote:
> > If you don't want to keep your BT email
> >
> > That's fine. Just don't use it anymore. Then, from 17 June, we'll
> > close any accounts that haven't been used for 150 days.
> But will BT also *delete the details and contacts* from the account? A
> former subscriber has written a well-argued and apparently well-merited
> diatribe about this in
> http://community.bt.com/t5/Other-BB-Queries/BT-email-accounts-hacked/m-p/851812/highlight/true#M51074
> and following posts in the thread.
> If not, this has serious data protection implications.
I've no idea. I don't keep any contacts or data there that I know of - I
> > If you don't want to keep your BT email
> >
> > That's fine. Just don't use it anymore. Then, from 17 June, we'll
> > close any accounts that haven't been used for 150 days.
> But will BT also *delete the details and contacts* from the account? A
> former subscriber has written a well-argued and apparently well-merited
> diatribe about this in
> http://community.bt.com/t5/Other-BB-Queries/BT-email-accounts-hacked/m-p/851812/highlight/true#M51074
> and following posts in the thread.
> If not, this has serious data protection implications.
download posts and they appear to be deleted from there afterwards.
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Barry Punchard
May 20, 2013, 4:19:22 AM5/20/13
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On 19 May da...@davenoise.co.uk wrote:
> In article <a92a524e53.b...@barry.btinternet.com>,
> Barry Punchard <barry.p...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > On 19 May da...@davenoise.co.uk wrote:
>
> > > In article <535fe34d53.b...@barry.btinternet.com>,
> > > Barry Punchard <barry.p...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > > > Is anyone going to continue with BTinternet (BT Yahoo) after 3rd
> > > > June? I can't get a straight answer from them about whether their
> > > > webmail change on that date will have any affect on POP3 services.
> > > > Does anyone know?
> > > >
> > > Unless I've misread the email I got, all you have to do to keep the
> > > email address is to log into it twice a year. I've set PopStar to log
> > > into it every time I log into my most used box - but then I upload
> > > using mail.btinternet.com anyway.
> > >
> > > The email is confusing suggesting you have to log in via Yahoo - but
> > > if you go to the help page is says logging in via your email software
> > > is fine.
> > >
> > They keep saying you MUST 'upgrade', but that can only apply to webmail.
>
> In article <a92a524e53.b...@barry.btinternet.com>,
> Barry Punchard <barry.p...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > On 19 May da...@davenoise.co.uk wrote:
>
> > > In article <535fe34d53.b...@barry.btinternet.com>,
> > > Barry Punchard <barry.p...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > > > Is anyone going to continue with BTinternet (BT Yahoo) after 3rd
> > > > June? I can't get a straight answer from them about whether their
> > > > webmail change on that date will have any affect on POP3 services.
> > > > Does anyone know?
> > > >
> > > Unless I've misread the email I got, all you have to do to keep the
> > > email address is to log into it twice a year. I've set PopStar to log
> > > into it every time I log into my most used box - but then I upload
> > > using mail.btinternet.com anyway.
> > >
> > > The email is confusing suggesting you have to log in via Yahoo - but
> > > if you go to the help page is says logging in via your email software
> > > is fine.
> > >
> > They keep saying you MUST 'upgrade', but that can only apply to webmail.
>
> This is the email I got:-
>
SNIP EMAIL
>
Thanks for posting that. The email I got gave a different date (03.06.2013) for
cutoff. After numerous exchanges with support they say:
Discussion Thread
-----------------
Response (Thiyagarajan Kandan) - 18/05/2013 07:32 PM
Hi Barry,
I am really sorry for the inconvenience caused. The upgrade is done for the BT
Yahoo website and it will not affect the POP3 Mail. I understand you are using
an Email Client to access your emails. You can continue using it. The POP3 Mail
will not be affected. If you have any queries, please get back to us. We will
make sure we provide all relevent information.
Thiyagarajan
Digital Care
____________
Barry
Stuart
May 20, 2013, 5:55:30 AM5/20/13
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> If not, this has serious data protection implications.
Any respect I may have had for BT went through the floor when they were
trialing Phorm. As for Yahoo and Google I wouldn't trust either of them as
far as I could throw my 300kg milling machine.
I do have a Yahoo account but only because I needed it to sign up for some
of the mailing lists they host and, apart from the necessary email
addresses, the rest of the information I gave them was entirely fictitious.
From what I have seen, Yahoo accounts regularly get hacked and used by
spammers.
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Vince M Hudd
May 20, 2013, 7:30:59 AM5/20/13
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Stuart <Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> From what I have seen, Yahoo accounts regularly get hacked and used by
> spammers.
And for the definition of spammers, I would include Yahoo! themselves.
> From what I have seen, Yahoo accounts regularly get hacked and used by
> spammers.
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SG nws
May 20, 2013, 7:33:22 AM5/20/13
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BP, quoting BT, wrote:
> The upgrade is done for
> the BT Yahoo website and it will not affect the POP3 Mail. I understand
> you are using an Email Client to access your emails. You can continue
> using it. The POP3 Mail will not be affected.
Sounds like the same thing as Virgin/Google.
> The upgrade is done for
> the BT Yahoo website and it will not affect the POP3 Mail. I understand
> you are using an Email Client to access your emails. You can continue
> using it. The POP3 Mail will not be affected.
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Tim Hill
May 20, 2013, 7:49:35 AM5/20/13
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(BT still have retail customers? Wow.)
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<vin...@softrock.co.uk> wrote:
> Stuart <Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> > From what I have seen, Yahoo accounts regularly get hacked and used
> > by spammers.
> And for the definition of spammers, I would include Yahoo! themselves.
They are really good at blocking email that isn't spam too.
> Stuart <Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> > From what I have seen, Yahoo accounts regularly get hacked and used
> > by spammers.
> And for the definition of spammers, I would include Yahoo! themselves.
(BT still have retail customers? Wow.)
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May 20, 2013, 2:57:40 PM5/20/13
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<gemini.519a0a02001cb7130d34%nws...@ntlworld.com>, SG nws
about four years ago is still live - at least I was able to
log in to it last night...
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<gemini.519a0a02001cb7130d34%nws...@ntlworld.com>, SG nws
<nws...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> BP, quoting BT, wrote:
> > The upgrade is done for the BT Yahoo website and it
> > will not affect the POP3 Mail. I understand you are
> > using an Email Client to access your emails. You can
> > continue using it. The POP3 Mail will not be affected.
> Sounds like the same thing as Virgin/Google.
For some reason, the Virgin account that I stopped using
> BP, quoting BT, wrote:
> > The upgrade is done for the BT Yahoo website and it
> > will not affect the POP3 Mail. I understand you are
> > using an Email Client to access your emails. You can
> > continue using it. The POP3 Mail will not be affected.
> Sounds like the same thing as Virgin/Google.
about four years ago is still live - at least I was able to
log in to it last night...
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