Printer replacement

[T M Smith]

My HP laserjet5L is now 10 to 12 years old and has started 'smearing'
the pages it prints. I think it is ready for replacement after very
good service. It is connected to my Iyonix with a canon inkjet printer
on my Windows 7 PC. Can anyone recommend a replacement printer that
might be as reliable.
Obviously it must work with the Iyonix but I also wonder about
wireless connectivity(networking?) with the PC being useful. I
currently swap files around using a pen drive.
I would like duplex printing but has not been essential on the
laserjet since it was easy to turn over the sheet.
Colour would also be nice but I do want to keep running
costs low.
Anyone any advice or recommendations.

Malcolm Smith

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T M Smith
Using an Iyonix and RISC OS 5.16 in the North Riding of Yorkshire

[Jim Nagel]

I'd go for networked and Postscript.

A networked printer is equally available to all the computers on the
network (unlike a "shared" printer, which is accessed through the
machine it's plugged into). And there's no question about RiscOS USB.

With Postscript there's no question of finding drivers for RiscOS.

--
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>> "from" address is genuine but will change. website has current one.

[Dave Symes]

In article <459d734d53...@thomas.smith57.virginmedia.com>,

T M Smith <thomas....@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> My HP laserjet5L is now 10 to 12 years old and has started 'smearing'
> the pages it prints. I think it is ready for replacement after very
> good service. It is connected to my Iyonix with a canon inkjet printer
> on my Windows 7 PC. Can anyone recommend a replacement printer that
> might be as reliable.
> Obviously it must work with the Iyonix but I also wonder about
> wireless connectivity(networking?) with the PC being useful. I
> currently swap files around using a pen drive.
> I would like duplex printing but has not been essential on the
> laserjet since it was easy to turn over the sheet.
> Colour would also be nice but I do want to keep running
> costs low.
> Anyone any advice or recommendations.

> Malcolm Smith

Like you Malcolm, we'd had a HP Laserjet 5 series (5P) printer for many,
many years (16) and eventually it blew the fuser unit, so considering its
age a replacement unit was silly priced, even a refurb.

As by this time, all the computers (Various OSs) in the house were
networked together we decided to get a replacement that was network
connectable.

We ended up with another HP printer the HP Laserjet P2055dn and while is
wasn't cheap, it's another excellent printer.
We've had it for just over a year... No trouble, and the print output is
fast and excellent quality.

Connection via LAN with the RO computers (Both real and Virtual) was
somewhat easier than expected Via JetDirect.

Despite the suggestion by others that duplex is possible via RISC OS I've
never managed to do it.

But on the MS-Win run computers the output control and quality is easily
configurable, and you can, "Easy peasy" do Duplex (Fay uses it quite a lot
for her publications) and it does save a lot of time and bother.

Dave

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Dave Triffid

[Bill (Adopt)]

In article <459d734d53...@thomas.smith57.virginmedia.com>,
T M Smith <thomas....@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> My HP laserjet5L is now 10 to 12 years old and has started 'smearing'
> the pages it prints. I think it is ready for replacement after very
> good service.

Just check that this is not just the cartridge. As
cartridges for the 5L are self contained, it may
be just need replacing, or something in the machine
that needs cleaning.

..although I'm sure you know this already! :))

> It is connected to my Iyonix with a canon inkjet printer
> on my Windows 7 PC. Can anyone recommend a replacement printer that
> might be as reliable.

> Obviously it must work with the Iyonix but I also wonder about
> wireless connectivity(networking?) with the PC being useful. I
> currently swap files around using a pen drive.
> I would like duplex printing but has not been essential on the
> laserjet since it was easy to turn over the sheet.
> Colour would also be nice but I do want to keep running
> costs low.

> Anyone any advice or recommendations.

OK! Since you ask ..hopefully the following will be
useful! :))

I've recently acquired, as an Amazon Warehouse Deal, a
brand-new, elegant, Duplex version of the late(st):

HP Pro 400 Color LaserJet M451dn

The 'd' indicates duplex and the 'n' indicates network
enabled. (A 'w' would indicate wireless capability as
well - should that be of interest - but see further
below).

The M451dn is very similar to the single sided HP CP1515n,
of which earlier reports have been made - itself a very
satisfactory and capable printer which, for myself, was
a replacement for the HP LaserJet 5L. (Which 5L is,
by the way, still working)!

Although the M451dn seems initially expensive at around
300.00gbp/350.00gbp it is, at that price, rather cheaper
than the HP LaserJet 5L which, inflation adjusted from
when I purchased one in 1995, would now be standing around
707.95gbp.

I think the latest home-use Color LaserJets kind of have
it on present price. (Given that HP, as all these days,
have realised that they can make more money out of cartridges
than base equipment).

Why purchased through Amazon Warehouse Deal?

Having discovered that Amazon's description of 'Used - like
new' actually means brand-new, still in original packaging
and possibly just re-boxed, their offer price of around
160.00gbp including p&p was, to say the least, attractive.

Incidentally, Amazon do have a 'Square Deal' - and well
honoured - additional warranty package available - as equally
HP have their own on and off site service engineer package(s)
available for customer purchase as well.

Result, a brand new HP LaserJet colour printer, with
networking and duplex with a full set of cartridges onboard
for less than the cost of a new set of HP colour print
cartridges.

Being duplex, of course, even the lesser capacity intro
cartridge set is, cf the single-sided CP1515n, double the
single sided page/side count of that printer. (One doesn't
always have to print duplex)!

..so, if available as a 'Like New' (ie brand=new) special
deal from Amazon ..why not?! ;))


Cartridge replacement costs?

A set of remanufactured replacement cartridges - usually from
one of the many more reputable cartridge fillers, is around
129.99gbp, or less - and should give, as do the original HP
replacements, a page count of around 2600, with the larger
black (X) cartridge printing around 4000 pages.

This is expected print life is considerably more than that
expected with similar cost replacements for the single-side
print of the CP1515n..

By the way, if these prices seem expensive, believe me, they
aren't in comparison to their continual cleaning and oft
blocked ink-jet brethren. The cost, per side, does seems to
be considerably less overall with lasers)..

Additional extras?

You will probably need, with any/all HP LaserJets, a memory
module to bring the printer up to it's full glory. Both the
CP 1515n and the duplex M451dn use the same module - cost
around 9.99gbp to around 16.50gbp or less, from Amazon.co.uk
or Misco.com. An essential item!

Network facilities?

..in my case connected via a Cat6 cable through the router so
that the printer is accessible not only from my main RiscPC
(RISC OS 4.02!) via PostScript 2 (includes text file
printing) and Martin and John's PostScript 3 (printing
pretty pictures)..

However, as I do little A4 colour picture printing, mostly I
leave it in PostScript 2 - I have lots of little !Edit
files hanging around, as one might after nearly 19 years -
also text files appear to be ubiquitous in just about every
software package ..and so on...

Equally I have recently dropped in a tiny Netbook operating
with Linux that prints out perfectly correctly to the printer
wirelessly through the router and the Cat6 cable connection
between the router and the printer. I'd expect the
Raspberry Pi to have an equally successful connection, both
wirelessly and/or Cat6!

Have never had any problems with this type of network
connection - each machine following it's own printing track
with the router directing output to the printer as it
receives the various jobs..


Colour printing?

Most printing is black! Colour is great, but expensive,
for pictures - if you're into that sort of thing - but
for the most part colour is just a sparing part of what is
essentially normal (black) printing. Comes into it's own
when sorting out spreadsheets, mind!

You will notice - and enjoy - the difference.


Duplex printing!

For me both a revelation and a delight! ..and no, work is
not required as the duplex facility is automatic.

First, ignore CJE's adapated version of a duplex driver for
the RiscPC - it doesn't and will never work! It cost me
35.00gbp out of my Old Age Pension to find this one out.

Utilising !Netsurf and accessing the printer's onboard web
control pages, it is possible to switch on (or off) the
duplex facility. Printing will then be automatically
duplexed as determined by the print jobs you send to it..

..such that single-sided sheets are printed as such and
immediately ejected into the top output bin..

..duplex printing, (both sides of the media), the sheet
is first printed on side one, then 'sucked back' into the
printer before being fully ejected into the output bin, with
side two also printed.

After so many years of single sided printing, the process
is both intriguing and somehow satisfying to watch ..but
then, little things please little 4.02 minds..!

There is no apparent pause in printing side 2 before the
completed sheet is re-ejected into the output bin..

..neither is there a need to drop a flap, open another bin,
or mess around as might have been required with earlier
printers; the duplex unit is automatic!

Single sided sheets rattle out a rate of around 20 sheets
per minute, duplex is slightly slower.

Leaving the printer in auto duplex mode is, for me, the best
policy. Single sheets, or single-sided sheets print out
exactly as they have done for the last 30/40 years with
anything double-sided, or duplex, now printing in similar
fashion, just as expected.

Incidentally, there are three bins (with the possible
expensive option of a fourth bin that may be added).

Bin 1, if you will, is the top output bin. Bin 2, in the
middle of the group, is one that takes up to 50 sheets of
specialist media, envelopes etc with bin 3, the bottom bin,
holding up to 250 sheets of the usual paper.

Bins 2, 3 (and 4) are variable - ie the user can
set the bin numbers from the printer's LCD control panel.
Alternatively, the printer can/will select automatically
from whichever bin the expected media is located, when left
to it's own devices.

Basically printing is all automatic and doesn't need, for
the RISC OS machines, any additional drivers over those
already available and in use on the particular platform -
regardless of RISC OS 'flavour'.

(Remember, the duplex facility is easily switched on/off
via Netsurf and the printer's own control web page - the
rest is automatic)!

As already said, PostScript level 2 and PostScript 3 work
just fine. The little Linux machine equally and wirelessly
prints just as capably.


What to watch out for?!

Nothing, really - except that you won't need to mess around
cleaning printer cartridges etc and et al and so on!
Original HP toner sets are expensive for some and, if your
needs are less than fine art publishing, a set of much
cheaper toners are available. Little difference to my
eyes ..but then.. ;))

One thing that I have found, first with the 5L that did such
stirling service for 15 years or so, then with five years of
replacement HP CP1515n and now with the duplex HP M451dn, is
that printer is best left switched 'on'.

This is generally advised and means that the printer is
always ready to wake up and print - these days using less
than 0.1w in a kind of auto-sleep mode.

Every once in while it will wake up, chunter to itself,
adjust click it's cartridges and then go back to sleep!
Let's one know, in the dead of night, that all is well with
the world of the printer!

I'm sure that I must have missed something, but hopefully
nothing important.

Printing with the HP Pro 400 Colour LaserJet M451dn is much
advanced over the HP LaserJet 5L - but the family connection
is obvious - both in the quality of print and the quality,
'feel' and expected longevity of the components.

Bit long - but trust helps! :))

Bill ZFC

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[Paul Sprangers]

> Colour would also be nice but I do want to keep running
> costs low.

It won't be easy to plea for another printer after Bills vivacious
description of his HP Pro etc, but I'd like to give it a try:

After two years of thinking, searching and doubting, I finally ordered a
Ricoh Aficio SP 430-DN.

I wanted to have crispy sharp text, as well as near-photo colour quality,
but at negligible costs. The Ricoh offers all three of them - only the
purchase is expensive (around �900).

The print quality, at true 1200 x 1200 dpi, is absolutely amazing,
especially if you consider the speed: 1.5 second for an A4, 3 seconds for a
duplex A4. A full page colour photo can only be distinguished from a
similar output of a real photo printer at very close sight. Text, even at
600 dpi fast mode, is completely smooth - in sharp contrast with my former
so-called 2400 enhanced dpi printer (a Xerox Phaser).

And then the running costs. I dare to state that this machine is probably
unbeatable. A page with black text costs around 0,4 ct, while the same text
in colour costs around 0.8 ct. A full colour A4 photo won't exceed a humble
18 ct.* How's this possible? Well, the toner cartridges may look expensive
(around �200 each and around �120 for black), but they last no less than
24,000 pages (at 5% coverage)!

Duplex printing may be enabled by means of the internal website of the
printer indeed, but it is a lot easier to define some feeds first and then
always choose them directly from the printer driver. The news groups will
certainly offer help to write such feeds.

Anyhow, together with the PS3 driver, this printer gives superb results,
extremely fast and at incredible low running costs. We've made it our home
network central printer, and now I never have to feel worried if the
children (or me) make prints of their favourite websites and all that.

* I've tried to estimate the costs in pounds. In euro, the printer costs
around �1000,-, the cartridges cost �240,- each for magenta, cyan and
yellow, and �140, for black, costs per page are �0,004 for black and �0,009
for colour, while a full colour A4 photo costs �0,15 - �0,20 (this is toner
only, costs of the purchase are not calculated, nor the costs of the
paper).

Oh, by the way, you don't need special paper for ultimate results, plain
laser paper will do!

Kind regards,
Paul Sprangers

[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article <4d1e7e4...@nails.abbeypress.net>,

Jim Nagel <jimne...@abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:
> I'd go for networked and Postscript.

> A networked printer is equally available to all the computers on the
> network (unlike a "shared" printer, which is accessed through the
> machine it's plugged into). And there's no question about RiscOS USB.

> With Postscript there's no question of finding drivers for RiscOS.

Is there any real benefit over using Uniprint - other than the host PC not
having to be switched on?

--
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Dave Plowman da...@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

[Jim Nagel]

Dave Symes wrote on 18 May:
> We ended up with another HP printer the HP Laserjet P2055dn ...

Dave, does this printer use Postscript driver or which? (I know I
could look it up, but others will be asking too.)

> Despite the suggestion by others that duplex is possible via RISC OS
> I've never managed to do it.

Which application are you trying to duplex-print from, or does your
problem apply to all Ro applications?

[Jim Nagel]

Jim Nagel <jimne...@abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:
>> I'd go for networked and Postscript.

>> A networked printer is equally available to all the computers on the
>> network (unlike a "shared" printer, which is accessed through the
>> machine it's plugged into). And there's no question about RiscOS USB.

>> With Postscript there's no question of finding drivers for RiscOS.

Dave Plowman (News) wrote on 18 May:
> Is there any real benefit over using Uniprint -- other than the host

> PC not having to be switched on?

Not involving a host computer that has to be switched on as well as
the one you're trying to print from -- that is a MAJOR advantage of a
networked connection.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article <685cc64...@nails.abbeypress.net>,

Jim Nagel <jimne...@abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:
> Jim Nagel <jimne...@abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:
> >> I'd go for networked and Postscript.

> >> A networked printer is equally available to all the computers on the
> >> network (unlike a "shared" printer, which is accessed through the
> >> machine it's plugged into). And there's no question about RiscOS USB.

> >> With Postscript there's no question of finding drivers for RiscOS.

> Dave Plowman (News) wrote on 18 May:
> > Is there any real benefit over using Uniprint -- other than the host
> > PC not having to be switched on?

> Not involving a host computer that has to be switched on as well as
> the one you're trying to print from -- that is a MAJOR advantage of a
> networked connection.

Right - wouldn't be for me.

--
*Microsoft broke Volkswagen's record: They only made 21.4 million bugs.

[Tim Hill]

In article <534dc28...@davenoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News)

<da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <4d1e7e4...@nails.abbeypress.net>, Jim Nagel
> <jimne...@abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:
> > I'd go for networked and Postscript.

> > A networked printer is equally available to all the computers on the
> > network (unlike a "shared" printer, which is accessed through the
> > machine it's plugged into). And there's no question about RiscOS USB.

> > With Postscript there's no question of finding drivers for RiscOS.

> Is there any real benefit over using Uniprint - other than the host PC
> not having to be switched on?

I don't know about Uniprint but printing to a network printer from a Mac
is at least possible, unlike printing to a shared printer on Windows7-64
which it seems isn't.

As my network printer is now dead, the inconvenience of shared printing
has resurfaced, although these days, and without Uniprint, I tend to
create PDFs in a shared directory with RISC OS or Mac and print those
from Windows if I really, really must sacrifice a tree.

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[Stuart]

In article <459d734d53...@thomas.smith57.virginmedia.com>,
T M Smith <thomas....@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> Can anyone recommend a replacement printer that might be as reliable.

http://www.cjemicros.co.uk/micros/individual/newprodpages/prodinfo.php?prodcode=DEL-2330DNSHNT6K

--
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Midlands RISC OS and Raspberry pi show, 13th July 2013

http://www.mug.riscos.org/show13/MUGshow.html

[Stuart]

In article <534d9cc...@triffid.co.uk>,

Dave Symes <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> Despite the suggestion by others that duplex is possible via RISC OS I've
> never managed to do it.

Works with the Dell I just mentioned.

[Stuart]

In article <534dd7eb...@argonet.co.uk>,

Stuart <Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <534d9cc...@triffid.co.uk>,
> Dave Symes <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> > Despite the suggestion by others that duplex is possible via RISC OS I've
> > never managed to do it.

> Works with the Dell I just mentioned.

Should add a rider to that I suppose.

"With printer drivers etc supplied by CJE"

[Dave Symes]

In article <534ddcb0...@argonet.co.uk>,

Stuart <Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <534dd7eb...@argonet.co.uk>,
> Stuart <Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <534d9cc...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes
> > <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> > > Despite the suggestion by others that duplex is possible via RISC OS
> > > I've never managed to do it.

> > Works with the Dell I just mentioned.

> Should add a rider to that I suppose.

> "With printer drivers etc supplied by CJE"

Indeedy, that was one of the suggestions, unfortunately SWMBO who is
really the only one here who needs Duplex, now prints from the PC side, so
purchasing the CJE driver wouldn't help her...
Me, I can't remember the last time I needed duplex for anything serious.

It was suggested that it could be done by manually setting the printer to
duplex from it's control panel, but that doesn't work when the RO printer
driver addresses the machine it returns to its default settings.

Dave

--

Dave Triffid

[Dave Symes]

In article <3abcc54...@nails.abbeypress.net>,

Jim Nagel <jimne...@abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:
> Dave Symes wrote on 18 May:
> > We ended up with another HP printer the HP Laserjet P2055dn ...

> Dave, does this printer use Postscript driver or which? (I know I
> could look it up, but others will be asking too.)

It can use either.

> > Despite the suggestion by others that duplex is possible via RISC OS
> > I've never managed to do it.

> Which application are you trying to duplex-print from, or does your
> problem apply to all Ro applications?

Of course, all RO applications, the bog standard RO printer drivers don't
have any settings for duplex.

CJE sell a driver that does Duplex.

Dave

--

Dave Triffid

[Stuart]

In article <534ddda...@triffid.co.uk>,

Dave Symes <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> Indeedy, that was one of the suggestions, unfortunately SWMBO who is
> really the only one here who needs Duplex, now prints from the PC side,
> so purchasing the CJE driver wouldn't help her..

Drivers came "free" with the printer.

[T M Smith]

>>> I'd go for networked and Postscript.

>>> A networked printer is equally available to all the computers on the
>>> network (unlike a "shared" printer, which is accessed through the
>>> machine it's plugged into). And there's no question about RiscOS USB.

>>> With Postscript there's no question of finding drivers for RiscOS.

>> Is there any real benefit over using Uniprint - other than the host PC
>> not having to be switched on?

> I don't know about Uniprint but printing to a network printer from a Mac
> is at least possible, unlike printing to a shared printer on Windows7-64
> which it seems isn't.

> As my network printer is now dead, the inconvenience of shared printing
> has resurfaced, although these days, and without Uniprint, I tend to
> create PDFs in a shared directory with RISC OS or Mac and print those
> from Windows if I really, really must sacrifice a tree.

Thanks for all the replies and in such detail in a couple of cases.
Paul it seems you have a very good printer I would be pleased to own
but I could not justify the price for a hobby printer.
I am saving all the input before I check out the models mentioned.
I wonder if anyone has experience of the Xerox laser printers; as my
brother got an inkjet which has impressed him.

Thanks for all the replies from Dave and Dave and Tim & Jim & Stuart &
Paul

Malcolm
PS. I have PS2 and 3 drivers

[John Rickman Iyonix]

Stuart wrote

> In article <459d734d53...@thomas.smith57.virginmedia.com>,
> T M Smith <thomas....@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> Can anyone recommend a replacement printer that might be as reliable.

> http://www.cjemicros.co.uk/micros/individual/newprodpages/prodinfo.php
> ?prodcode=DEL-2330DNSHNT6K

I bought one of these from CJE last year and use it with the PS3
driver. It is very fast and comes with ethernet connection and duplex.
Print quality is excellent.

However it has one serious and unforseen drawback. I cannot find a
source of toner refill powder. This makes it too expensive for the
purpose for which it was bought ie printing the free parish magazine.
With the 6000 page cartridge it costs about tuppence a side. I have
since bought Samsung colour laser for which I can buy toner for manual
refilling and this costs a third as much as buying new cartridges.

So I now have a Dell 2330dn which is not used a lot. If anyone is
interested in buying it. It could be yours for 50 pounds. Collect from
my house or the Midlands show 13 July.

John
--
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[M Harding]

In article <0712fa4d5...@rickman.argonet.co.uk>,

John Rickman Iyonix <ric...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> Stuart wrote

> > In article <459d734d53...@thomas.smith57.virginmedia.com>,
> > T M Smith <thomas....@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >> Can anyone recommend a replacement printer that might be as
> >> reliable.

> > http://www.cjemicros.co.uk/micros/individual/newprodpages/prodinfo.php
> > ?prodcode=DEL-2330DNSHNT6K

> I bought one of these from CJE last year and use it with the PS3
> driver. It is very fast and comes with ethernet connection and
> duplex. Print quality is excellent.

> However it has one serious and unforseen drawback. I cannot find a
> source of toner refill powder. This makes it too expensive for the
> purpose for which it was bought ie printing the free parish

> magazine. [ . . . . ]

I looked up the Dell 2330 on my favourite laser toner site -
www.proprint.co.uk - but it's missing. I've found the owner of that
site extremely helpful with advice. You could contact him by phone
and ask whether another toner in the Dell range would be OK, perhaps.

Michael Harding
Rev. Preb. M.D. Harding ris...@mdharding.org.uk

[T M Smith]

In message <mpro.mn1oiz...@ypical.nospam.invalid>
Fred Bambrough <fred@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:

> In message <a6d4ed4d53...@thomas.smith57.virginmedia.com>

> T M Smith <thomas....@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> [snip]

>> Thanks for all the replies from Dave and Dave and Tim & Jim & Stuart &
>> Paul

> Can I politely suggest that you don't remove attributions from your posts.
> They allow readers to follow who said what.
Thanks for the heads-up Fred.
Maybe I'm too frightened of Druck.

Malcolm

[John Rickman Iyonix]

M Harding wrote

Thanks Michael - I will give that a try when the current toner runs
out.

John




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"Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darueber muss man schweigen."

[Chris Evans]

In article <6ceabc4e5...@rickman.argonet.co.uk>, John Rickman Iyonix

Or if you have a local www.smart-cartridge.com dealership or similar they
can refill your cartridge!


Chris Evans

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[M Harding]

In article <ant21114...@client.cjemicros.co.uk>,

Chris Evans <ch...@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <6ceabc4e5...@rickman.argonet.co.uk>, John Rickman Iyonix
> <URL:mailto:ric...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> > M Harding wrote

[ . . ]

> > > I looked up the Dell 2330 on my favourite laser toner site -
> > > www.proprint.co.uk - but it's missing. I've found the owner of
> > > that site extremely helpful with advice. You could contact him
> > > by phone and ask whether another toner in the Dell range would
> > > be OK, perhaps.

> > Thanks Michael - I will give that a try when the current toner
> > runs out.

> Or if you have a local www.smart-cartridge.com dealership or
> similar they can refill your cartridge!

It's a trade-off. The cost in getting a local cartridge dealer to
refill it is much more than the cost of buying the toner and a bit of
DIY work. The DIY cheapness is offset by the aggro of a spouse if it
gets messy. 8-)

In refilling, you need a strong localised light when pouring black
toner into the black innards of the cartridge without its overflowing
everywhere.

If getting a dealer to refill it, make sure he/she gives you back the
cartridge you provided (since you know it's only been used once)
rather than another cartridge which may have been refilled several
times already. You can't keep on refilling them.

[John Rickman Iyonix]

M Harding wrote

I am sure that this is true. However, I have been refilling the same
SamSung CLP550 cartridges since 2007. Cyan, Magenta, and Black 10
times and Yellow 9 times. They seem to work as well now as when they
were new although the transport mechanism is creaking and looking a
bit tattered.

It is a pity that the replacement machine Samsung 620 does not support
Postscript.

John

--
John Rickman - http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/lynx

"Poetry is a MUG's game" - TS Eliot

[andy.ma...@gmail.com]

On Friday, May 17, 2013 11:04:41 PM UTC+1, T M Smith wrote:
> My HP laserjet5L is now 10 to 12 years old and has started 'smearing'
> the pages it prints. I think it is ready for replacement after very
> good service. It is connected to my Iyonix with a canon inkjet printer
> on my Windows 7 PC. Can anyone recommend a replacement printer that
> might be as reliable.
>
> Obviously it must work with the Iyonix but I also wonder about
> wireless connectivity(networking?) with the PC being useful. I
> currently swap files around using a pen drive.
>
> I would like duplex printing but has not been essential on the
> laserjet since it was easy to turn over the sheet.
>
> Colour would also be nice but I do want to keep running costs low.
>
> Anyone any advice or recommendations.
>
>

Coming late to this thread, I can now confirm that the Oki C321DN colour duplexing postscript-capable networkable laser printer works with RISC OS 5, using Martin Wuerthner and John Tygat's PostScript 3 driver (from http://www.mw-software.com/software/ps3/ps3.html ).

It also does duplex if you use Richard Darby's Brother PDF (from http://www.rjdarby.co.uk/riscos/ )and can be networked in you use Steffan Bellon's RemotePrinterFS (from http://www.sbellon.de/sw-modules.html ).

I bought mine from www.printerland.co.uk as they were about the cheapest and do next day delivery for free. They did try to sell me an "upgrade" to a Windows host-based Oki printer, but I stuck my guns having weighed up my needs for optional RISC OS compatibility through PostScript emulation.

I can thoroughly recommend it!

It was a replacement for my HP LaserJet 2550L which worked well with RISC OS, but started banding after being stored. I think a toner cartridge is faulty, so I've put it on eBay at http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-LaserJet-2550L-Workgroup-Laser-Printer-/151051305091 if anyone's interested AND can collect!

Hope that helps someone out.

Andy

[T M Smith]

In message <1b7b316d-93e8-434b...@googlegroups.com>

Thanks for the input Andy.
However I have already bought a Brother 2250DN.
I have looked at 'your' printer and it certainly has the facilities I
wanted it is also much bigger than I could handle.