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Jess Hampshire

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Jun 27, 2001, 8:19:56 AM6/27/01
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In message <na.4b24ef4a91.a...@argo.net.invalid>
Mr Dennis <nospa...@argo.net.invalid> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> (I have previously posted this to argonet.acorn.misc, thought i'd broaden to
> see if i get a better response - so sorry if any have seen this before).
>
> We have a Microdigital Mico which has been working perfectly except for the
> sound card which has always refused to work - have any other users been
> successful in getting sound to work? We tried to install the PNP directory
> in Boot:Choices.Boot.PreDesk, but on re-booting the whole system crashed
> (the hourglass freezes and a reset is the only way out).
>
> Now i've looked at the files that are loaded in this PNP directory, and it
> seems that it is the SoundDMA module that is causing the machine to crash -
> why should this be?
>
> I can supply more details on request if that would help.
>
> Just thought i'd ask before emailing Microdigital...
>
> Regards,
> R Dennis

there is an compatibility issue with some of the Mico soundcards, phone
MD 01274 618774 and they should arrange some sort of exchange.

I just contacted them about my brother's one. Up until the release of
kino, stupidplayer and the new Amplayer, not having sound was really
very little disadvantage. My brother is not bothered about it at all.
However I need to know how some MP3s on my website sound on it.

Given the fact that hopefully the omega is entering production about
now, I'm not bothered if they don't get it sorted out as quickly as I
would otherwise expect.

--
Jess

icq 91353267 http://www.kentwebnet.com Using RISC OS 4

Harriet Bazley

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Jun 27, 2001, 8:04:08 PM6/27/01
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On 27 Jun 2001 as I do recall,
Mr Dennis wrote:

> We have a Microdigital Mico which has been working perfectly except for the
> sound card which has always refused to work - have any other users been
> successful in getting sound to work?

As far as I know, the sound system in the Mico still doesn't work.
(Unless they've managed it since this Easter...)

--
Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==

You cannot kill time without injuring eternity.

Martin Birchall

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Jun 28, 2001, 9:07:19 AM6/28/01
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In article <0fe96e914...@freeuk.com>,

Harriet Bazley <har...@bazley.freeuk.com> wrote:
> On 27 Jun 2001 as I do recall,
> Mr Dennis wrote:

> > We have a Microdigital Mico which has been working perfectly except
> > for the sound card which has always refused to work - have any other
> > users been successful in getting sound to work?

> As far as I know, the sound system in the Mico still doesn't work.
> (Unless they've managed it since this Easter...)

I have had a Mico since May 2000 and still have no sound for it. At first
David Atkins told me that the problem would be resolved with a CD which
would be sent later and would provide the necessary sound drivers. I rang
him before Xmas and he then told me it was a hardware problem and now my
Mico would need to be returned to base for the necessary fitting. He said
he was pinning a note to his noticeboard to remind himself about this
problem. Needless to say that was the last I have heard from him despite
the fact that he promised to get back to me to arrange a pick-up date for
my Mico. I bought the Mico because it had built-in Midi-interface (or so
I was led to believe!) and needed it to plug in my Yamaha Keyboard which I
use with Sibelius. Obviously I have not been able to use this system fo
over a year!

Then I was doodling with my mouse (as one does) and noticed, in "Show Log"
of my ArcFax program, that I had been blacklisted by MicroDigital from 21
July 2000 onwards which explains why, at the time, I was unable to fax my
complaints to MicroDigital. You can imagine my suspicions were then
aroused, this coinciding with various mags coverage of the failure of
MicroDigital to get their new computer off the ground, despite taking
peoples' deposits well in advance.

I decided to do a quick search of RiscOS mailing lists for articles with
mention of the Mico. I contacted several of these people. One contact
told me:

"This is a bit scandalous - basically Microdigital sold the computer with a
sound card, but no drivers. I contacted them a few days ago, on this
subject as well as a few others, and they claimed that sound drivers have
now been written. Apparently they are supposed to be in the post to me, but
I'll believe it when I see them. I've already been waiting nearly a year...
I would phone them up and give them some stick about having paid for
something that you didn't get basically - thats what I did."

So I am not alone. What are MicroDigital up to? I have had three Micos
and had problems with all three. On the last occasion David Atkins (credit
to him) drove from MicroDigital to my home in Yeovil with a replacement.
But I have since found problems with this too.

Needless to say I am disillusioned with my machine and am becoming more
reliant on a PC laptop. As a staunch supporter of "Acorn" for 20 years, I
never thought I'd say that!

Martin

--
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\ | _| |\/ |\__ \ / GENEALOGY and PHOTOGRAPHY of Wessex, UK
\__/ ___|_| _|____/ / http://www.jems.freeuk.com

Keith Porter

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Jun 28, 2001, 1:00:32 PM6/28/01
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In message <0fe96e914...@freeuk.com>
Harriet Bazley <har...@bazley.freeuk.com> wrote:

> On 27 Jun 2001 as I do recall,
> Mr Dennis wrote:
>
> > We have a Microdigital Mico which has been working perfectly except for the
> > sound card which has always refused to work - have any other users been
> > successful in getting sound to work?
>
> As far as I know, the sound system in the Mico still doesn't work.
> (Unless they've managed it since this Easter...)
>

My Mico sound has been working since February. Microdigital mailed a
replacement motherboard, and software. Easily fitted and set up with no
problem.
--
Keith Porter

Paul F. Johnson

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Jun 28, 2001, 3:17:33 PM6/28/01
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Hiya,

In message <4a91b69...@freeuk.com>
Martin Birchall <je...@freeuk.com> wrote:

> I have had a Mico since May 2000 and still have no sound for it. At
> first David Atkins told me that the problem would be resolved with a CD
> which would be sent later and would provide the necessary sound drivers.
> I rang him before Xmas and he then told me it was a hardware problem and
> now my Mico would need to be returned to base for the necessary fitting.
> He said he was pinning a note to his noticeboard to remind himself about
> this problem. Needless to say that was the last I have heard from him
> despite the fact that he promised to get back to me to arrange a pick-up
> date for my Mico. I bought the Mico because it had built-in
> Midi-interface (or so I was led to believe!) and needed it to plug in my
> Yamaha Keyboard which I use with Sibelius. Obviously I have not been
> able to use this system fo over a year!

Well, you could have always bought a spangly new RiscStation which has had
the driver and software for all it's sound stuff since launch (or as near
as dammit).

16 sound channels (including Midi as standard) + Sampler and controller
software (plus in tests is a damned sight faster than the Mico anyway).
But, you live and learn.

Ho hum.

TTFN

Paul

--
Sent from the heart of British Technology at its best - the all
new RiscStation R7500 - now running with the new 50ns upgrade

Richard Walker

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Jun 28, 2001, 3:42:17 PM6/28/01
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In message <4a91b69...@freeuk.com>
Martin Birchall <je...@freeuk.com> wrote:

> I have had a Mico since May 2000 and still have no sound for it. At first
> David Atkins told me that the problem would be resolved with a CD which
> would be sent later and would provide the necessary sound drivers. I rang
> him before Xmas and he then told me it was a hardware problem and now my
> Mico would need to be returned to base for the necessary fitting. He said
> he was pinning a note to his noticeboard to remind himself about this
> problem. Needless to say that was the last I have heard from him despite
> the fact that he promised to get back to me to arrange a pick-up date for
> my Mico. I bought the Mico because it had built-in Midi-interface (or so
> I was led to believe!) and needed it to plug in my Yamaha Keyboard which I
> use with Sibelius. Obviously I have not been able to use this system fo
> over a year!

Why on earth didn't you send the machine back, and demand a refund?

> Then I was doodling with my mouse (as one does) and noticed, in "Show Log"
> of my ArcFax program, that I had been blacklisted by MicroDigital from 21
> July 2000 onwards which explains why, at the time, I was unable to fax my
> complaints to MicroDigital. You can imagine my suspicions were then
> aroused, this coinciding with various mags coverage of the failure of
> MicroDigital to get their new computer off the ground, despite taking
> peoples' deposits well in advance.

MicroDigital are *very* dodgy. I would *never* *ever* give them a penny.

They are conning you, and they are conning RISC OS developers.


--
Richard.

"Take these broken wings and learn to fly all your life."

Richard Walker

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Jun 28, 2001, 3:53:55 PM6/28/01
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In message <5982d89...@blueyonder.co.uk>

Paul F. Johnson <paulf....@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:

> Well, you could have always bought a spangly new RiscStation which has had
> the driver and software for all it's sound stuff since launch (or as near
> as dammit).
>
> 16 sound channels (including Midi as standard) + Sampler and controller
> software (plus in tests is a damned sight faster than the Mico anyway).
> But, you live and learn.

Whilst I'm 99% certain that the Simtec-designed system is *far* superior, why
do we have no benchmarks put up in magazines and web sites etc. to *prove*
this?

Do Acorn User have no spine? Oh, no. They are 'MicroDigital User'. :-/

Do RiscStation mention these facts in their web site? Oh, no. They don't
know how to produce a decent web site. :-/

Or are your claims invalid?


--
Richard.

"Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see."

Nick Boalch

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Jun 28, 2001, 5:38:57 PM6/28/01
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In message <dbc5da914...@riscpc.ntlworld.com>
Richard Walker <runny...@mindless.com> wrote:
[snip]

> MicroDigital are *very* dodgy. I would *never* *ever* give them a penny.

My experience would tend to disagree. I bought one of their "awesome" IDE
cards which turned out to be faulty. Although I had some initial trouble in
actually speaking to a human at MicroDigital, once I got through they were
extremely helpful. When a number of suggested fixes failed to resolve the
problem the interface was replaced immediately.

Cheers,
Nick
--
i would like to tell the story of
my life all in capital
letters
-- Don Marquis, "CAPITALS AT LAST"

Paul F. Johnson

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Jun 28, 2001, 7:20:30 PM6/28/01
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Hiya,

> Do RiscStation mention these facts in their web site? Oh, no. They
> don't know how to produce a decent web site. :-/
>
> Or are your claims invalid?

Okay, here are two using Dave Holden's HDSpeed between the Odessy and
RiscStation. I do have more around.

-----

Speed test carried out on 'ADFS::HardDisc4' on Tue,14 Dec 1999.17:09:38

Produced by program 'HDspeed', v1.10 Jan 1995, © David Holden

Castle Oddesy 1024x768x256c 60Hz AKF60

Comparison with: Tandon/Miniscribe 20Mb, 65ms, ST506

Byte access test, large file sise = 8 Mb
All times are in centi-seconds

Read 50K sequential bytes 34.8 513%
Write 50K sequential bytes 79.9 426%
Read 500K sequential bytes 372 498%
Write 500K sequential bytes 788 440%
50 Kb file read 1,000 random bytes 161 880%
50 Kb file write 1,000 random bytes 1044 251%
Large file read 1,000 random bytes 1070 873%
Large file write 1,000 random bytes 1968 799%
Average random variation from baseline 585%

Block Load/Save, large file sise = 2 Mb
Data transfer speed shown in Kb/Sec

Save 50Kb file 1106 544%
Load 50Kb file 671 224%
Save large block file 1700 472%
Load large block file 1742 477%
Save/load 50 Kb file 819 339%
Save/load 512 Kb file 1592 450%
Save/load large block file 1726 472%
Average block variation from baseline 425%

Overall average variation from baseline 510%


Speed test carried out on 'IDEFS::HardDisc' on Tue,14 Dec 1999.17:20:57

Produced by program 'HDspeed', v1.10 Jan 1995, © David Holden

R7500FE 1024x768x256c 60Hz AKF60

Comparison with: Tandon/Miniscribe 20Mb, 65ms, ST506

Byte access test, large file sise = 8 Mb
All times are in centi-seconds

Read 50K sequential bytes 24.9 718%
Write 50K sequential bytes 38.6 883%
Read 500K sequential bytes 250 741%
Write 500K sequential bytes 393 883%
50 Kb file read 1,000 random bytes 403 351%
50 Kb file write 1,000 random bytes 1479 177%
Large file read 1,000 random bytes 989 945%
Large file write 1,000 random bytes 1761 893%
Average random variation from baseline 698%

Block Load/Save, large file sise = 2 Mb
Data transfer speed shown in Kb/Sec

Save 50Kb file 2016 993%
Load 50Kb file 2347 784%
Save large block file 3413 948%
Load large block file 3190 873%
Save/load 50 Kb file 1275 529%
Save/load 512 Kb file 2951 835%
Save/load large block file 3282 899%
Average block variation from baseline 837%

Overall average variation from baseline 763%

All times below in seconds. Unless stated, all performed in mode 28.

Convert a jpeg using ChangeFSI

Normal Mode 0 Fast Mode 0 Mode 28 Fast Mode 28

A3020 30.34 29.89 30.34 54.12
A5000 14.78 14.82 14.76 17.54
A7000 9.37 9.4 9.37 10.95
RPC700 7.54 7.53 7.53 7.57
Mico 7.25 5.49 5.51 5.49
R7500 4.97 4.98 4.95 5.22
SARPC 1.6 1.6 1.59 1.61

Convert a jpeg and enlarge x 3

A3020 110.64 110.47 110.8 202.64
A5000 52.87 52.76 52.95 62.51
A7000 32.91 33.22 33.16 39.12
RPC700 27.31 27.31 27.27 27.29
Mico 26.15 21.44 19.66 19.56
R7500 17.39 17.45 17.38 18.41
SARPC 6.87 6.88 6.84 6.85

Duplicate 6M replay file

A7000 14
A3020 13
SARPC 11
RPC700 9
A5000 8
Mico 3
R7500 3

Count to a million

BASIC BASIC 64
A3020 37 188
A5000 8 46
A7000 6 43
RPC700 5 33
R7500 3 2
Mico 3 1
SARPC 1 4

Print to file
Postscript PCL (HPLJ4)
A3020 70 670
A5000 24 192
A7000 12 114
RPC700 11 71
Mico 9 25
R7500 7 54
SARPC 3 24

SICK Tests

SICK V0.94

.---------------.
| Result Values |
'---------------'
&000000B4 &000000A4 &0000007C &00000333 &00000000 &01FF0000
&00000136 &000000A0 &00000003 &001E837A &00400000 &00B70390
&FFFFFFFF &00008000 &00000080 &00000000 &00000000 &00000100
&036E0D4C &00000001 &00000000 &00000000 &00000012 &000ECD8A
&00000000 &00000025 &00000000 &FFFFFFFF &00000001 &00000001
&FFFFFFFF &00000044 &0000001F &00004000 &005D21D3 &00000010
&0435441B &01DC1300 &00408F56 &01DC1300 &00407EAE &01F2F660
&00400FE7 &01F2F660 &00401207

.-----------.
| Guesswork |
'-----------'

Computer model: Acorn A3010

.-----------.
| Processor |
'-----------'
Type: ARM250
Clock rate: 12.00 MHz

Processor bugs:
RRX: No
Mode change: No
LDM^: Yes
LDM/STM: Yes
STM^: Yes
Istream abort: Yes
LDMIB: Yes

Floating point unit: Old FP-Emulator


.--------.
| Memory |
'--------'
DRAM size: 4 MByte

VRAM size: 0 MByte

ROM size: 2 MByte
Low ROM access time: 450 ns
High ROM access time: 325 ns

.-------------.
| Frequencies |
'-------------'
Timer frequency: 2.000 MHz
Memory clock: 11.99 MHz (reported by OS)

.-----.
| ICs |
'-----'
Memory controller: MEMC1a

I/O chip: 82C711

Videochip: VIDC1a

LCD controller: None

Special functions chip: IOEB

Real time clock: Philips PCF8583
I²C address: &A0
Reference clock: 32.768 kHz

.--------------------------.
| Input And Output Devices |
'--------------------------'
Keyboard type: Archimedes keyboard
Layout: UK (configured)

Pointer device: Quadrature mouse (guessed)

Monitor type: 'Auto' (configured)
Monitor lead ID: Super VGA

.--------.
| Others |
'--------'
Unique machine ID: &0000000ECD8A

OS version: 3.10
OS identifier: &A4
OS description: RISC OS 3.10 (30 Apr 1992)

.--------------------.
| System Performance |
'--------------------'
Relative to
This machine A310¹ RiscPC²
Integer: 5368.717 Dhrystones/sec 1.24 0.0145
(3.056 Dhrystone-MIPS)

Floating point: 45.32597 kWhetstones/sec 1.00 0.0149

Memory:
Main memory linear read: 14.065 MBytes/sec (1.20) (0.353)
Main memory linear write: 14.079 MBytes/sec (1.13) (0.392)
Screen memory linear read: 14.856 MBytes/sec (1.14) (1.15)
Screen memory linear write: 14.854 MBytes/sec (1.13) (0.639)
Average linear read/write: 14.462 MBytes/sec 1.15 0.517

Weighted overall: 1.18 0.182

¹ A310 with ARM2/8, MEMC1 and RISC OS 3.11 (not Arthur, yet)
² RiscPC SA with SA110(rev.T)/233, RISC OS 3.70 and 2 MByte VRAM

.-----------------.
| Expansion Cards |
'-----------------'
Expansion card slots: 4 (reported by OS)

Slot Manufacturer Product DMA Speed
----------------------------------------------------------------------
1 I-Cubed (UK) &00CF

.----------------.
| Filing Systems |
'----------------'
Number Name Read only Max. open files Discs
-------------------------------------------------------
8 ADFS No unlimited 1
13 null No unlimited
14 printer No unlimited
17 vdu No unlimited
18 rawvdu No unlimited
19 kbd No unlimited
20 rawkbd No unlimited
46 Resources Yes unlimited
47 Pipe No unlimited
53 devices No unlimited
99 Share No unlimited

.-----------------.
| FileCore Drives |
'-----------------'
ADFS::0
Disc format: ADFS 1.6M
Disc name: Test
Disc filetype: &FCD (harddisc image)
Density: quad density
Disc size: 1.563 MBytes
RISC OS partition > 512 MB: No
Sector size: 1 KByte
Sectors per track: 10
Heads: 2
Big map: No
Long filename support: No
idlen: 15 bits
Maximum number of objects: 32765
Smallest object: 1 KByte
Bytes per map bit (LFAU): 64
Number of zones: 4
Size of map: 4 KBytes
Boot option: No boot action
Supported by RISC OS: 3.00 or higher

.-------------.
| IDE Devices |
'-------------'
Master
Bad drive

Slave
Bad drive

.---------.
| Remarks |
'---------'
None

SICK V0.94

.---------------.
| Result Values |
'---------------'
&000000B4 &000000A4 &00000078 &00000322 &00000000 &01FF0000
&00000137 &000000A0 &00000003 &001E841E &00400000 &00B722D0
&FFFFFFFF &00008000 &00000080 &00000000 &00000000 &00000100
&036E0D4C &00000001 &00000000 &00000000 &00000011 &000AB076
&00000000 &41560300 &00000000 &FFFFFFFF &00000001 &00000001
&FFFFFFFF &00000044 &0000001F &00010000 &0066A69E &00000010
&00B6828D &01F2F660 &00405C4A &021C2940 &004042B6 &0237A080
&00403639 &0240C840 &00402A3E

.-----------.
| Guesswork |
'-----------'

Computer model: Acorn A5000

.-----------.
| Processor |
'-----------'
Type: ARM3, rev. 0
Designer: Acorn Computer
Manufacturer: VLSI
Clock rate: 25.00 MHz

Processor bugs:
RRX: No
Mode change: No
LDM^: No
LDM/STM: Yes
STM^: Yes
Istream abort: Yes
LDMIB: Yes

Floating point unit: Old FP-Emulator


.--------.
| Memory |
'--------'
DRAM size: 4 MByte

VRAM size: 0 MByte

ROM size: 2 MByte
Low ROM access time: 450 ns
High ROM access time: 325 ns

.-------------.
| Frequencies |
'-------------'
Timer frequency: 2.000 MHz
Memory clock: 12.00 MHz (reported by OS)

.-----.
| ICs |
'-----'
Memory controller: MEMC1a

I/O chip: 82C710

Videochip: VIDC1a

LCD controller: None

Special functions chip: IOEB

Real time clock: Philips PCF8583
I²C address: &A0
Reference clock: 32.768 kHz

.--------------------------.
| Input And Output Devices |
'--------------------------'
Keyboard type: Archimedes keyboard
Layout: UK (configured)

Pointer device: Quadrature mouse (guessed)

Monitor type: 'Auto' (configured)
Monitor lead ID: Super VGA

.--------.
| Others |
'--------'
Unique machine ID: &0000000AB076

OS version: 3.11
OS identifier: &A4
OS description: RISC OS 3.11 (29 Sep 1992)

.--------------------.
| System Performance |
'--------------------'
Relative to
This machine A310¹ RiscPC²
Integer: 19483.52 Dhrystones/sec 4.50 0.0528
(11.09 Dhrystone-MIPS)

Floating point: 267.5368 kWhetstones/sec 5.89 0.0879

Memory:
Main memory linear read: 14.787 MBytes/sec (1.27) (0.372)
Main memory linear write: 16.033 MBytes/sec (1.29) (0.447)
Screen memory linear read: 16.861 MBytes/sec (1.29) (1.30)
Screen memory linear write: 17.145 MBytes/sec (1.31) (0.738)
Average linear read/write: 16.205 MBytes/sec 1.29 0.579

Weighted overall: 3.58 0.232

¹ A310 with ARM2/8, MEMC1 and RISC OS 3.11 (not Arthur, yet)
² RiscPC SA with SA110(rev.T)/233, RISC OS 3.70 and 2 MByte VRAM

.-----------------.
| Expansion Cards |
'-----------------'
Expansion card slots: 4 (reported by OS)

Slot Manufacturer Product DMA Speed
----------------------------------------------------------------------

.----------------.
| Filing Systems |
'----------------'
Number Name Read only Max. open files Discs
-------------------------------------------------------
8 ADFS No unlimited 1
13 null No unlimited
14 printer No unlimited
17 vdu No unlimited
18 rawvdu No unlimited
19 kbd No unlimited
20 rawkbd No unlimited
46 Resources Yes unlimited
47 Pipe No unlimited
53 devices No unlimited

.-----------------.
| FileCore Drives |
'-----------------'
ADFS::0
Disc format: ADFS 1.6M
Disc name: Test
Disc filetype: &FCD (harddisc image)
Density: quad density
Disc size: 1.563 MBytes
RISC OS partition > 512 MB: No
Sector size: 1 KByte
Sectors per track: 10
Heads: 2
Big map: No
Long filename support: No
idlen: 15 bits
Maximum number of objects: 32765
Smallest object: 1 KByte
Bytes per map bit (LFAU): 64
Number of zones: 4
Size of map: 4 KBytes
Boot option: No boot action
Supported by RISC OS: 3.00 or higher

.-------------.
| IDE Devices |
'-------------'
Master
Bad drive

Slave
Bad drive

.---------.
| Remarks |
'---------'
None

SICK V0.94

.---------------.
| Result Values |
'---------------'
&000000C8 &000000A8 &00000078 &00000222 &00FE0100 &01FD0100
&00000192 &000000A0 &00000003 &001E8513 &10000000 &00F42400
&00000002 &00000002 &04000000 &04000000 &04000000 &04000000
&00001000 &00010200 &00200000 &00400000 &D4E70201 &45450512
&00000000 &00000001 &00000000 &65010013 &A4001AB8 &00000050
&4401A102 &00000001 &00000001 &00000002 &00000007 &00000000
&00000001 &00000003 &00100000 &00455964 &00000080 &00645232
&053417A0 &00401C67 &04AAC360 &00401194 &053417A0 &00402EB4
&0501BD00 &00401DE0

.-----------.
| Guesswork |
'-----------'

Computer model: Acorn RiscPC 600

.-----------.
| Processor |
'-----------'
Type: SA110, rev. J or K
Implementor: Digital
Clock rate: 276.5 MHz
Quartz: 3.686400 MHz
DIP switch setting: 0 0 0 1 (factor = 75)

Processor bugs:
RRX: No
Mode change: No
LDM^: No
LDM/STM: -
STM^: Yes
Istream abort: Yes
LDMIB: Yes

Floating point unit: New FP-Emulator (FPE 400)

Second processor card: PC card
ASIC: Gemini I

.--------.
| Memory |
'--------'
DRAM size: 256 MByte

SIMM Bank Size
------------------------------
0 0 64 MByte
1 64 MByte
1 0 64 MByte
1 64 MByte

VRAM size: 2 MByte
VRAM organisation: 2 banks of 256K×32

ROM size: 4 MByte
ROM bank 0 access: 5 MEMCLK cycles
ROM bank 0 burst: 3 MEMCLK cycles
ROM bank 1 access: 2 MEMCLK cycles
ROM bank 1 burst: off

.-------------.
| Frequencies |
'-------------'
Timer frequency: 2.000 MHz
Memory clock: 16.00 MHz (reported by OS)

.-----.
| ICs |
'-----'
Memory controller: IOMD20, rev. B

I/O chip: FDC37C665GT, rev 1

Videochip: VIDC20

LCD controller: None

Special functions chip: None

Real time clock: Philips PCF8583
I²C address: &A0
Reference clock: 32.768 kHz

.--------------------------.
| Input And Output Devices |
'--------------------------'
Keyboard type: PC keyboard
Layout: Germany (configured)

Pointer device: Quadrature mouse (configured)

Monitor type: VGA-type monitor (configured)
Monitor lead ID: TV standard

Parallel port device:
Type: PRINTER
Product: Lexmark Optra LaserPrinter

.--------.
| Others |
'--------'
Unique machine ID: &0050A4001AB8

OS version: 4.02
OS identifier: &A8
OS description: RISC OS 4.02 (10 Aug 1999)
Part number: 19990818-001

.--------------------.
| System Performance |
'--------------------'
Relative to
This machine A310¹ RiscPC²
Integer: 461433.0 Dhrystones/sec 107 1.25
(262.6 Dhrystone-MIPS)

Floating point: 3893.748 kWhetstones/sec 85.7 1.28

Memory:
Main memory linear read: 39.631 MBytes/sec (3.39) (1.00)
Main memory linear write: 35.569 MBytes/sec (2.87) (0.991)
Screen memory linear read: 39.587 MBytes/sec (3.04) (3.06)
Screen memory linear write:38.129 MBytes/sec (2.91) (1.64)
Average linear read/write: 38.230 MBytes/sec 3.04 1.37

Weighted overall: 69.7 1.29

¹ A310 with ARM2/8, MEMC1 and RISC OS 3.11 (not Arthur, yet)
² RiscPC SA with SA110(rev.T)/233, RISC OS 3.70 and 2 MByte VRAM

.-----------------.
| Expansion Cards |
'-----------------'
Expansion card slots: 9 (reported by OS)

Slot Manufacturer Product DMA Speed
----------------------------------------------------------------------
0 Irlam Instruments (UK) VideoDesk2 &000 9/9
1 Cumana (UK) SCSI2 &010 5/4
2 Cumana (UK) SCSI2 5
3 Yellowstone (UK) RapIDE32 5
8 I-Cubed (UK) EtherLan 600Lk &105 9/9

.----------------.
| Filing Systems |
'----------------'
Number Name Read only Max. open files Discs
-------------------------------------------------------
8 ADFS No unlimited 2
13 null No unlimited
14 printer No unlimited
17 vdu No unlimited
18 rawvdu No unlimited
19 kbd No unlimited
20 rawkbd No unlimited
23 RAM No unlimited
26 SCSI No unlimited 5
37 CDFS Yes 255 2
46 Resources Yes unlimited
47 Pipe No unlimited
53 devices No unlimited
66 SparkFS No unlimited
99 Share No unlimited
115 ATAFS No unlimited 3

.-----------------.
| FileCore Drives |
'-----------------'
ADFS::0
Disc format: Unknown
Disc name: SICK
Disc filetype: &FCD (harddisc image)
Density: quad density
Disc size: 1.563 MBytes
RISC OS partition > 512 MB: No
Sector size: 1 KByte
Sectors per track: 10
Heads: 2
Big map: No
Long filename support: No
idlen: 15 bits
Maximum number of objects: 32765
Smallest object: 1 KByte
Bytes per map bit (LFAU): 64
Number of zones: 4
Size of map: 4 KBytes
Boot option: No boot action
Supported by RISC OS: 3.00 or higher

ADFS::4
Disc name: ADFS4
Disc filetype: &FCD (harddisc image)
Density: hard disc
Disc size: 2.019 GBytes
RISC OS partition > 512 MB: Yes
Sector size: 512 Bytes
Sectors per track: 63
Heads: 16
Big map: Yes
Long filename support: Yes
idlen: 18 bits
Maximum number of objects: 262141
Smallest object: 9.5 KBytes
Bytes per map bit (LFAU): 512
Number of zones: 1042
Size of map: 521 KBytes
Boot option: *Run boot file
Supported by RISC OS: 4.00 or higher

RAM::0
Disc name: RamDisc0
Disc filetype: &FCD (harddisc image)
Density: hard disc
Disc size: 6.906 MBytes
RISC OS partition > 512 MB: No
Sector size: 1 KByte
Sectors per track: 1
Heads: 1
Big map: No
Long filename support: Yes
idlen: 13 bits
Maximum number of objects: 8189
Smallest object: 2 KBytes
Bytes per map bit (LFAU): 128
Number of zones: 7
Size of map: 7 KBytes
Boot option: No boot action
Supported by RISC OS: 4.00 or higher

SCSI::4
Disc name: SCSI4
Disc filetype: &FCD (harddisc image)
Density: hard disc
Disc size: 2.100 GBytes
RISC OS partition > 512 MB: Yes
Sector size: 512 Bytes
Sectors per track: 125
Heads: 8
Big map: Yes
Long filename support: Yes
idlen: 17 bits
Maximum number of objects: 131069
Smallest object: 18 KBytes
Bytes per map bit (LFAU): 1024
Number of zones: 542
Size of map: 271 KBytes
Boot option: No boot action
Supported by RISC OS: 4.00 or higher

SCSI::5
Disc name: SCSI5
Disc filetype: &FCD (harddisc image)
Density: hard disc
Disc size: 8.485 GBytes
RISC OS partition > 512 MB: Yes
Sector size: 512 Bytes
Sectors per track: 162
Heads: 18
Big map: Yes
Long filename support: Yes
idlen: 16 bits
Maximum number of objects: 65533
Smallest object: 136 KBytes
Bytes per map bit (LFAU): 8192
Number of zones: 274
Size of map: 137 KBytes
Boot option: No boot action
Supported by RISC OS: 4.00 or higher

SCSI::6
Disc name: SCSI6
Disc filetype: &FCD (harddisc image)
Density: hard disc
Disc size: 4.238 GBytes
RISC OS partition > 512 MB: Yes
Sector size: 512 Bytes
Sectors per track: 176
Heads: 8
Big map: Yes
Long filename support: Yes
idlen: 16 bits
Maximum number of objects: 65533
Smallest object: 68 KBytes
Bytes per map bit (LFAU): 4096
Number of zones: 274
Size of map: 137 KBytes
Boot option: No boot action
Supported by RISC OS: 4.00 or higher

ATAFS::0
Disc name: ATAFS0
Disc filetype: &FCD (harddisc image)
Density: hard disc
Disc size: 1.590 GBytes
RISC OS partition > 512 MB: Yes
Sector size: 512 Bytes
Sectors per track: 63
Heads: 16
Big map: Yes
Long filename support: Yes
idlen: 18 bits
Maximum number of objects: 262141
Smallest object: 9.5 KBytes
Bytes per map bit (LFAU): 512
Number of zones: 821
Size of map: 410.5 KBytes
Boot option: No boot action
Supported by RISC OS: 4.00 or higher

ATAFS::1
Disc name: ATAFS1
Disc filetype: &FCD (harddisc image)
Density: hard disc
Disc size: 6.052 GBytes
RISC OS partition > 512 MB: Yes
Sector size: 512 Bytes
Sectors per track: 63
Heads: 16
Big map: Yes
Long filename support: Yes
idlen: 19 bits
Maximum number of objects: 524285
Smallest object: 20 KBytes
Bytes per map bit (LFAU): 1024
Number of zones: 1562
Size of map: 781 KBytes
Boot option: No boot action
Supported by RISC OS: 4.00 or higher

ATAFS::2
Disc name: ATAFS2
Disc filetype: &FCD (harddisc image)
Density: hard disc
Disc size: 21.05 GBytes
RISC OS partition > 512 MB: Yes
Sector size: 512 Bytes
Sectors per track: 63
Heads: 16
Big map: Yes
Long filename support: Yes
idlen: 19 bits
Maximum number of objects: 524285
Smallest object: 80 KBytes
Bytes per map bit (LFAU): 4096
Number of zones: 1359
Size of map: 679.5 KBytes
Boot option: No boot action
Supported by RISC OS: 4.00 or higher

.-------------.
| IDE Devices |
'-------------'
Master
Drive name: IBM-DAQA-32160
Firmware version: R4ORA52A
Serial number: 1W51WF40080
Cylinders: 4200
Heads: 16
Sectors per track: 63
Size (CHS): 2.019 GBytes
Size (LBA): 2.019 GBytes
Buffer size: 96 KByte
Device type: ATA
Media: Fixed
Encoding: Not MFM
Sectoring: Hard
Supports LBA: Yes
Supports DMA: Yes
Supports PIO Mode 3: Yes
Supports PIO Mode 4: Yes
Write cache: Enabled
Read look-ahead: Enabled
Reverting to power on defaults: Disabled
Auto reassign: Enabled
S.M.A.R.T. support: Yes

Slave
Not present

.------------------.
| RapIDE Interface |
'------------------'
Software version: 1.44
Hardware version: 2.00
Number of physical discs: 3

.---------------.
| ATAFS Devices |
'---------------'
Port 0, Master
Drive name: IBM-DJAA-31700
Cylinders: 3308
Heads: 16
Sectors per track: 63
Size (CHS): 1.590 GBytes

Port 0, Slave
Drive name: IBM-DHEA-36481
Cylinders: 12592
Heads: 16
Sectors per track: 63
Size (CHS): 6.052 GBytes

Port 1, Master
Drive name: IBM-DJNA-372200
Cylinders: 43800
Heads: 16
Sectors per track: 63
Size (CHS): 21.05 GBytes

.----------------.
| SCSI Interface |
'----------------'
Software version: 2.08
Hardware version: 6.00
Number of SCSI host adapters: 2

Software features
Target disconnect/reconnect: No
Background data transfer: Yes
Command queueing: Yes
Automatic Request Sense: Yes
Messaging: Yes
Scatter list for SWI SCSI_Op: Yes
*Devices: Yes
*SCSIBlock: No
Multiple SCSI cards: Yes
Device reservation: Yes
Reading control lines: Yes
Configuration: Yes
Target mode: No

Hardware features
Target mode: No
Configuration: No

.--------------.
| SCSI Devices |
'--------------'
Hostadapter 0
Device number: 0
Device type: Direct-access
Vendor identification: IBM OEM
Product identification: DFRSS2F
Product revision level: 4545
Logical blocks: 4404488
Block size: 512 Bytes
Device size: 2.100 GBytes
Media type: Fixed
ISO-Version: 0
ECMA-Version: 0
ANSI-Version: 2 (SCSI-2)
32-bit wide data transfers: No
16-bit wide data transfers: No
Synchronous data transfer: Yes
Buffer size: 512 KBytes
Product serial number: 00219257

Device number: 1
Device type: Direct-access
Vendor identification: IBM OEM
Product identification: DCHS09U
Product revision level: 5353
Logical blocks: 17796076
Block size: 512 Bytes
Device size: 8.486 GBytes
Media type: Fixed
ISO-Version: 0
ECMA-Version: 0
ANSI-Version: 2 (SCSI-2)
32-bit wide data transfers: No
16-bit wide data transfers: Yes
Synchronous data transfer: Yes
Buffer size: 472 KBytes
Product serial number: 6804406C

Device number: 2
Device type: Direct-access
Vendor identification: SEAGATE
Product identification: ST34572N
Product revision level: 0876
Logical blocks: 8888923
Block size: 512 Bytes
Device size: 4.239 GBytes
Media type: Fixed
ISO-Version: 0
ECMA-Version: 0
ANSI-Version: 2 (SCSI-2)
32-bit wide data transfers: No
16-bit wide data transfers: No
Synchronous data transfer: Yes
Buffer size: 411.53125 KBytes
Product serial number: JKF101350HGFFJ

Device number: 4
Device type: Direct-access
Vendor identification: IOMEGA
Product identification: ZIP 100
Product revision level: E.08
Media type: Removeable
ISO-Version: 0
ECMA-Version: 0
ANSI-Version: 2 (SCSI-2)
32-bit wide data transfers: No
16-bit wide data transfers: No
Synchronous data transfer: No
Buffer size: 16 KBytes

Device number: 6
Device type: Direct-access
Vendor identification: SyQuest
Product identification: SQ3270S
Product revision level: 3-14
Media type: Removeable
ISO-Version: 0
ECMA-Version: 0
ANSI-Version: 2 (SCSI-2)
32-bit wide data transfers: No
16-bit wide data transfers: No
Synchronous data transfer: Yes
Buffer size: 128 KBytes

Device number: 7
Device type: Unknown or no device
ANSI-Version: 0

Hostadapter 1
Device number: 1
Device type: CD-ROM
Vendor identification: PIONEER
Product identification: CD-ROM DR-U03S
Product revision level: 1.01
Media type: Removeable
ISO-Version: 0
ECMA-Version: 0
ANSI-Version: 2 (SCSI-2)
32-bit wide data transfers: No
16-bit wide data transfers: No
Synchronous data transfer: Yes
Buffer size: 119.4375 KBytes

Device number: 2
Device type: CD-ROM
Vendor identification: TOSHIBA
Product identification: CD-ROM XM-3701TA
Product revision level: 0236
Media type: Removeable
ISO-Version: 0
ECMA-Version: 0
ANSI-Version: 2 (SCSI-2)
32-bit wide data transfers: No
16-bit wide data transfers: No
Synchronous data transfer: Yes

Device number: 3
Device type: Write-once
Vendor identification: SONY
Product identification: CD-R CDU920S
Product revision level: 1.2a
Media type: Removeable
ISO-Version: 0
ECMA-Version: 0
ANSI-Version: 2 (SCSI-2)
32-bit wide data transfers: No
16-bit wide data transfers: No
Synchronous data transfer: Yes
Buffer size: 1 MByte

Device number: 7
Device type: Unknown or no device
ANSI-Version: 0

.---------.
| Remarks |
'---------'
None

SICK V0.94

.---------------.
| Result Values |
'---------------'
&000000C8 &000000A8 &00000038 &00000222 &00FE0100 &01FD0100
&00000190 &000000A0 &00000002 &001E8400 &05000000 &00F42400
&00000002 &00000002 &04000000 &00000000 &01000000 &00000000
&00001000 &00005200 &00200000 &00400000 &D4E70301 &45450512
&00000000 &00000001 &00000000 &65020013 &A4005564 &00000050
&4401A104 &00000001 &00000001 &00000002 &00000001 &00000000
&00000000 &0000001F &00100000 &0053598A &00000080 &00782122
&05466720 &004000C2 &04B3EB20 &00401465 &05466720 &00401BED
&050F78A0 &0040298C

.-----------.
| Guesswork |
'-----------'

Computer model: Acorn RiscPC SA

.-----------.
| Processor |
'-----------'
Type: SA110, rev. T
Implementor: Digital
Clock rate: 228.5 MHz
Quartz: 3.686400 MHz
DIP switch setting: 0 1 0 0 (factor = 62)

Processor bugs:
RRX: No
Mode change: No
LDM^: No
LDM/STM: -
STM^: Yes
Istream abort: Yes
LDMIB: No

Floating point unit: New FP-Emulator (FPE 400)

Second processor card: PC card
ASIC: Gemini I

.--------.
| Memory |
'--------'
DRAM size: 80 MByte

SIMM Bank Size
------------------------------
0 0 64 MByte
1 0 16 MByte

VRAM size: 2 MByte
VRAM organisation: 2 banks of 256K×32

ROM size: 4 MByte
ROM bank 0 access: 5 MEMCLK cycles
ROM bank 0 burst: 3 MEMCLK cycles
ROM bank 1 access: 2 MEMCLK cycles
ROM bank 1 burst: off

.-------------.
| Frequencies |
'-------------'
Timer frequency: 2.000 MHz
Memory clock: 16.00 MHz (reported by OS)

.-----.
| ICs |
'-----'
Memory controller: IOMD21, rev. A

I/O chip: FDC37C665GT, rev 2

Videochip: VIDC20

LCD controller: None

Special functions chip: None

Real time clock: Philips PCF8583
I²C address: &A0
Reference clock: 32.768 kHz

.--------------------------.
| Input And Output Devices |
'--------------------------'
Keyboard type: PC keyboard
Layout: UK (configured)

Pointer device: Quadrature mouse (configured)

Monitor type: 'Auto' (configured)
Monitor lead ID: VGA

.--------.
| Others |
'--------'
Unique machine ID: &0050A4005564

OS version: 4.00
OS identifier: &A8
OS description: RISC OS 4.00 (07 May 1999)
Part number: 19990630-002

.--------------------.
| System Performance |
'--------------------'
Relative to
This machine A310¹ RiscPC²
Integer: 383924.3 Dhrystones/sec 88.7 1.04
(218.5 Dhrystone-MIPS)

Floating point: 3251.701 kWhetstones/sec 71.5 1.07

Memory:
Main memory linear read: 40.243 MBytes/sec (3.44) (1.01)
Main memory linear write: 35.835 MBytes/sec (2.89) (1.00)
Screen memory linear read: 40.177 MBytes/sec (3.08) (3.10)
Screen memory linear write: 38.510 MBytes/sec (2.94) (1.66)
Average linear read/write: 38.691 MBytes/sec 3.08 1.38

Weighted overall: 58.2 1.16

¹ A310 with ARM2/8, MEMC1 and RISC OS 3.11 (not Arthur, yet)
² RiscPC SA with SA110(rev.T)/233, RISC OS 3.70 and 2 MByte VRAM

.-----------------.
| Expansion Cards |
'-----------------'
Expansion card slots: 9 (reported by OS)

Slot Manufacturer Product DMA Speed
----------------------------------------------------------------------
1 Alsystems (UK) Power-Tec SCSI &010 9/9

.----------------.
| Filing Systems |
'----------------'
Number Name Read only Max. open files Discs
-------------------------------------------------------
8 ADFS No unlimited 2
13 null No unlimited
14 printer No unlimited
17 vdu No unlimited
18 rawvdu No unlimited
19 kbd No unlimited
20 rawkbd No unlimited
26 SCSI No unlimited 2
37 CDFS Yes 255 1
46 Resources Yes unlimited
47 Pipe No unlimited
53 devices No unlimited
66 SparkFS No unlimited
86 FontFS No unlimited 1
99 Share No unlimited
134 FastSpool No 64

.-----------------.
| FileCore Drives |
'-----------------'
ADFS::4
Disc name: HardDisc4
Disc filetype: &FCD (harddisc image)
Density: hard disc
Disc size: 6.059 GBytes
RISC OS partition > 512 MB: Yes
Sector size: 512 Bytes
Sectors per track: 63
Heads: 15
Big map: Yes
Long filename support: Yes
idlen: 19 bits
Maximum number of objects: 524285
Smallest object: 20 KBytes
Bytes per map bit (LFAU): 1024
Number of zones: 1564
Size of map: 782 KBytes
Boot option: *Run boot file
Supported by RISC OS: 4.00 or higher

FontFS::0
Disc name: FontDisc0
Disc filetype: &FCD (harddisc image)
Density: hard disc
Disc size: 90.00 MBytes
RISC OS partition > 512 MB: No
Sector size: 1 KByte
Sectors per track: 1
Heads: 1
Big map: No
Long filename support: No
Number of zones: 0
Boot option: No boot action
Supported by RISC OS: > 4.00

.-------------.
| IDE Devices |
'-------------'
Master
Drive name: ST36531A
Firmware version: 3.41
Serial number: GX363251
Cylinders: 13446
Heads: 15
Sectors per track: 63
Size (CHS): 6.059 GBytes
Size (LBA): 6.059 GBytes
Buffer size: 128 KByte
Device type: ATA
Media: Fixed
Encoding: Not MFM
Sectoring: Hard
Supports LBA: Yes
Supports DMA: Yes
Supports PIO Mode 3: Yes
Supports PIO Mode 4: Yes
Write cache: Disabled
Read look-ahead: Disabled
Reverting to power on defaults: Enabled
Auto reassign: Enabled
S.M.A.R.T. support: Yes

Slave
Not present

.----------------.
| SCSI Interface |
'----------------'
Software version: 0.01
Hardware version: 0.00
Number of SCSI host adapters: 0

Software features
Target disconnect/reconnect: Yes
Background data transfer: Yes
Command queueing: Yes
Automatic Request Sense: Yes
Messaging: Yes
Scatter list for SWI SCSI_Op: Yes
*Devices: Yes
*SCSIBlock: Yes
Multiple SCSI cards: Yes
Device reservation: Yes
Reading control lines: No
Configuration: Yes
Target mode: No

Hardware features
Target mode: No
Configuration: No

.--------------.
| SCSI Devices |
'--------------'
Hostadapter 0

.---------.
| Remarks |
'---------'
None

SICK V0.94

.---------------.
| Result Values |
'---------------'
&000000C0 &000000A8 &0000007C &00000333 &00000000 &01FF0000
&00000193 &FFFFFFFF &03C00000 &01E84800 &00000002 &00000002
&00000000 &00000000 &03C00000 &00000000 &00001000 &00003C00
&00000000 &00400000 &AA7C0101 &30111313 &00000000 &00000001
&00000000 &03030013 &00799223 &00000000 &41077100 &00000081
&FFFFFFFF &00000002 &00000001 &00000003 &00000000 &0000001F
&00040000 &0079CBB7 &00000100 &005A1043 &05B44420 &00402A5B
&09959D00 &004008AC &094C5F00 &00400F3D &09CC8B80 &00400A6B

.-----------.
| Guesswork |
'-----------'

Computer model: RiscStation R7500

.-----------.
| Processor |
'-----------'
Type: ARM7500FE, rev. 0
Implementor: ARM
Clock rate: 56.45 MHz

Processor bugs:
RRX: No
Mode change: No
LDM^: Yes
LDM/STM: -
STM^: Yes
Istream abort: Yes
LDMIB: Yes

Floating point unit: ARM Floating Point Accelerator Chip (FPA10/FPA11)


.--------.
| Memory |
'--------'
DRAM size: 60 MByte

SIMM Bank Size
------------------------------
0 --- not fitted ---
1 0 60 MByte

DRAM type: EDO
RAS-to-CAS: 3 memory clock cycles
RAS precharge: 3 memory clock cycles

VRAM size: 0 MByte

ROM size: 4 MByte
ROM bank 0 access: 8 MEMCLK cycles
ROM bank 0 burst: 6 MEMCLK cycles
ROM bank 1 access: 8 MEMCLK cycles
ROM bank 1 burst: 6 MEMCLK cycles

.-------------.
| Frequencies |
'-------------'
Timer frequency: Unknown

Memory clock: 32.00 MHz (reported by OS)

.-----.
| ICs |
'-----'
Memory controller: IOMD (ARM7500FE), rev. 1

I/O chip: FDC37C669, rev 3

Videochip: VIDC20

LCD controller: None

Special functions chip: None

Real time clock: None

.--------------------------.
| Input And Output Devices |
'--------------------------'
Keyboard type: PC keyboard
Layout: UK (configured)

Pointer device: PS/2 mouse (configured)

Monitor type: 'Auto' (configured)
Monitor lead ID: VGA

.--------.
| Others |
'--------'
Unique machine ID: &000000799223

OS version: 4.03
OS identifier: &A8
OS description: RISC OS 4.03 (09 Nov 1999)
Part number: 20000202-002

.--------------------.
| System Performance |
'--------------------'
Relative to
This machine A310¹ RiscPC²
Integer: 65683.73 Dhrystones/sec 15.2 0.178
(37.38 Dhrystone-MIPS)

Floating point: 8674.433 kWhetstones/sec 191 2.85

Memory:
Main memory linear read: 43.407 MBytes/sec (3.71) (1.09)
Main memory linear write: 73.085 MBytes/sec (5.89) (2.04)
Screen memory linear read: 70.875 MBytes/sec (5.44) (5.48)
Screen memory linear write: 74.713 MBytes/sec (5.70) (3.21)
Average linear read/write: 65.509 MBytes/sec 5.22 2.34

Weighted overall: 31.4 1.20

¹ A310 with ARM2/8, MEMC1 and RISC OS 3.11 (not Arthur, yet)
² RiscPC SA with SA110(rev.T)/233, RISC OS 3.70 and 2 MByte VRAM

.-----------------.
| Expansion Cards |
'-----------------'
Expansion card slots: 9 (reported by OS)

Slot Manufacturer Product DMA Speed
----------------------------------------------------------------------
3 &2F2F () &2F2F 9
Extended type &2F2F
8 () &D &105 5/4

.----------------.
| Filing Systems |
'----------------'
Number Name Read only Max. open files Discs
-------------------------------------------------------
8 ADFS No unlimited 1
13 null No unlimited
14 printer No unlimited
17 vdu No unlimited
18 rawvdu No unlimited
19 kbd No unlimited
20 rawkbd No unlimited
37 CDFS Yes 255 1
46 Resources Yes unlimited
47 Pipe No unlimited
49 IDEFS No unlimited 8
53 devices No unlimited
99 Share No unlimited
156 LanMan98 No unlimited

.-----------------.
| FileCore Drives |
'-----------------'
IDEFS::4
Disc name: HardDisc
Disc filetype: &FCD (harddisc image)
Density: hard disc
Disc size: 2.000 GBytes
RISC OS partition > 512 MB: Yes
Sector size: 512 Bytes
Sectors per track: 63
Heads: 16
Big map: Yes
Long filename support: Yes
idlen: 18 bits
Maximum number of objects: 262141
Smallest object: 76 KBytes
Bytes per map bit (LFAU): 4096
Number of zones: 130
Size of map: 65 KBytes
Boot option: *Run boot file
Supported by RISC OS: 4.00 or higher

IDEFS::5
Disc name: HardDisk
Disc filetype: &FCD (harddisc image)
Density: hard disc
Disc size: 4.016 GBytes
RISC OS partition > 512 MB: Yes
Sector size: 512 Bytes
Sectors per track: 63
Heads: 15
Big map: Yes
Long filename support: Yes
idlen: 18 bits
Maximum number of objects: 262141
Smallest object: 76 KBytes
Bytes per map bit (LFAU): 4096
Number of zones: 260
Size of map: 130 KBytes
Boot option: *Run boot file
Supported by RISC OS: 4.00 or higher

.-------------.
| IDE Devices |
'-------------'
Master
Disc drive not known

Slave
Disc drive not known

.---------.
| Remarks |
'---------'
The present unique machine ID chip was not originally fitted in this
computer
Real time clock not found

Okay, happy now?

Sorry this post was so long, but I've just had the okay to publish these
numbers, so thought I should. Thanks Roy :-)

Obviously, the SA RPC is a bog standard one (not a Kinetic).

John Cartmell

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Jun 28, 2001, 7:12:10 PM6/28/01
to
In article <92d6db914...@riscpc.ntlworld.com>,

Richard Walker <runny...@mindless.com> wrote:
> Do Acorn User have no spine? Oh, no. They are 'MicroDigital User'. :-/
Do you read AU?
Have you noticed the reports of the RiscStation's speed - and of its
improved speed?

If not - look again because they're there.

Comparison between RiscStation and what? The Mico doesn't even get a look
in - the valid comparisons are between a Riscstation and a SA RiscPC and
the latter wins (in most cases) [just].

To be honest I hadn't thought that the Mico had sold sufficiently for a
comparison article to be appropriate - when there is a production Omega
available then it might be time to compare all the current RISC OS
machines. Performance/price.
Any bets on the winner?

--
John Cartmell - Manchester, UK
Fleur Designs -- compact designer board games

druck

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Jun 28, 2001, 6:13:40 PM6/28/01
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On 28 Jun 2001 Richard Walker <runny...@mindless.com> wrote:
> MicroDigital are *very* dodgy. I would *never* *ever* give them a penny.
> They are conning you, and they are conning RISC OS developers.

Can we ask what MicroDigital product you have bought and how you were
mistreated?

Or is it that you are just mouthing off on basis of hearsay, just to sully
the name of a developer?

---druck

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Spyro The Dragon

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Jun 28, 2001, 7:12:12 AM6/28/01
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>
> Processor bugs:
> RRX: No
> Mode change: No
> LDM^: No
> LDM/STM: Yes
> STM^: Yes
> Istream abort: Yes
> LDMIB: Yes

Does anyone have a complete list of these and what they are?

Timothy James Atherton

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Jun 29, 2001, 7:00:28 AM6/29/01
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[snip]

> 16 sound channels (including Midi as standard) + Sampler and controller
> software (plus in tests is a damned sight faster than the Mico anyway).
> But, you live and learn.

Christopher Bazley and I tested our machines against one another here
at Exeter. We concluded that the difference in speed between his Mico
and my R7500Lite+ was negligible, the RiscStation being _very
slightly_ faster.

I'll ask Christopher to put the results on his website.

Kind Regards,

Timothy James Atherton

druck

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Paul F. Johnson

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Hiya,

In message <na.0562394a92.a...@argo.net.invalid>
Mr Dennis <nospa...@argo.net.invalid> wrote:

> > > I have had a Mico since May 2000 and still have no sound for it. At
> > > first David Atkins told me that the problem would be resolved with a
> > > CD which would be sent later and would provide the necessary sound
> > > drivers. I rang him before Xmas and he then told me it was a hardware
> > > problem and now my Mico would need to be returned to base for the
> > > necessary fitting. He said he was pinning a note to his noticeboard
> > > to remind himself about this problem. Needless to say that was the
> > > last I have heard from him despite the fact that he promised to get
> > > back to me to arrange a pick-up date for my Mico. I bought the Mico
> > > because it had built-in Midi-interface (or so I was led to believe!)
> > > and needed it to plug in my Yamaha Keyboard which I use with
> > > Sibelius. Obviously I have not been able to use this system fo over
> > > a year!

<snip>

> Look, Paul we appreciate what you are saying but i'm afraid that i don't
> think that this is the time to plug RiscStations's products - as good as
> i know they are (i have used one myself). But at a time when our family
> were thinking 'shall we get a Mac' or 'shall we stay loyal to the RISC OS
> platform', the Mico best suited our needs. And it still does since the
> business with the sound card isn't a reason for me not to be unhappy with
> it. We have had the machine over a year now, and we're still very pleased
> to be using it.

The Mico was bought (according to the above) for the Midi interface. Fair
enough, but from this posting, very little support in terms of getting the
drivers for the sound system has been provided so the purpose of the
purchase has not been fulfilled. All the sound stuff on the RiscStation
machines have been supported from day one. Simply pointing out a fact. The
Mico is quite a nice little RISC OS box, just has been let down by lack of
drivers for some of their devices.

> Others bought Mico's, i am sure, for many different reasons - slight
> speed improvements, for instance, by the R7500 really mean nothing to me.
>
> In a time when we need all the customers we can get in the RISC OS
> market, i don't think it is right to question people's purchases. At
> least they /have/ purchased.

I have not questioned a purchase. In the past year I've bought 3 RISC OS
machines and quite a few copies of OS 4, however, from the OP position, it
would seem that perhaps the RiscStation would have been a better purchase
(for the sound support). The upshot is still the sale of a RISC OS machine.

Spyro The Dragon

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druck wrote:
>
> On 28 Jun 2001 Spyro The Dragon <imo...@clara.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Processor bugs:
> > > RRX: No
> > > Mode change: No
> > > LDM^: No
> > > LDM/STM: Yes
> > > STM^: Yes
> > > Istream abort: Yes
> > > LDMIB: Yes
> >
> > Does anyone have a complete list of these and what they are?
>
> http://www.arm.com/ http://www.intel.com/

Ta ;)

Spyro The Dragon

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druck wrote:
>
> On 28 Jun 2001 Spyro The Dragon <imo...@clara.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Processor bugs:
> > > RRX: No
> > > Mode change: No
> > > LDM^: No
> > > LDM/STM: Yes
> > > STM^: Yes
> > > Istream abort: Yes
> > > LDMIB: Yes
> >
> > Does anyone have a complete list of these and what they are?
>
> http://www.arm.com/ http://www.intel.com/

Hmm. I just looked and I couldnt find anything about the arm 2/3...

Rich Mackin

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"Richard Walker" <runny...@mindless.com> wrote in message
news:92d6db914...@riscpc.ntlworld.com...

> In message <5982d89...@blueyonder.co.uk>
> Paul F. Johnson <paulf....@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
>
> "Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see."

The irony...


Richard Walker

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In message <53c0ee9...@blueyonder.co.uk>

Paul F. Johnson <paulf....@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:

> > Do RiscStation mention these facts in their web site? Oh, no. They
> > don't know how to produce a decent web site. :-/
> >
> > Or are your claims invalid?
>
> Okay, here are two using Dave Holden's HDSpeed between the Odessy and
> RiscStation. I do have more around.

[ snip ]

> Okay, happy now?

Hmm... Not really. Some pretty bar graphs, and a comparison with the Mico
would be useful... :-) Oh, and for the thing to be published in a magazine
and/or RiscStation web site.

> Sorry this post was so long, but I've just had the okay to publish these
> numbers, so thought I should. Thanks Roy :-)

Why do you need an 'OK'?!

--
Richard.

"Man, you should have seen them kicking Edgar Alan Poe."

Richard Walker

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In message <1ba2e891...@druck.freeuk.net>
druck <ne...@druck.freeuk.com> wrote:

> On 28 Jun 2001 Richard Walker <runny...@mindless.com> wrote:
>
> > MicroDigital are *very* dodgy. I would *never* *ever* give them a penny.
> > They are conning you, and they are conning RISC OS developers.
>
> Can we ask what MicroDigital product you have bought and how you were
> mistreated?

A long time ago, I used a 'Focus IT' sound sampler. Actually, it was
fantastic, and I was very happy with it.

However, these stories of blacklisted fax numbers, silent Micos and threats
to other developers are too much - especially when you hear them from
different sources.

> Or is it that you are just mouthing off on basis of hearsay, just to sully
> the name of a developer?

Not hearsay.


--
Richard.

"Don't pass me by don't make me cry don't make me blue."

Richard Walker

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In message <4a91edf...@cartmell.demon.co.uk>
John Cartmell <jo...@cartmell.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <92d6db914...@riscpc.ntlworld.com>,
> Richard Walker <runny...@mindless.com> wrote:
>
> > Do Acorn User have no spine? Oh, no. They are 'MicroDigital User'. :-/
>
> Do you read AU?

Sometimes - In Smiths.

The last one I looked at carried a barmy spread on a selection of Omega PCI
cards - *none* of which are available to buy. Oh, and it contained *no* real
information. Looked like an advert. Maybe it was? (but it was mentioned on
the cover, so sounded like a 'feature')

> Have you noticed the reports of the RiscStation's speed - and of its
> improved speed?

No.

> If not - look again because they're there.

I'll have a look.

> Comparison between RiscStation and what? The Mico doesn't even get a look
> in - the valid comparisons are between a Riscstation and a SA RiscPC and
> the latter wins (in most cases) [just].

You could compare *all* the currently available machines.



> To be honest I hadn't thought that the Mico had sold sufficiently for a
> comparison article to be appropriate - when there is a production Omega
> available then it might be time to compare all the current RISC OS
> machines. Performance/price.
> Any bets on the winner?

The Omega will not win because it is not available.

From day 1, Acorn User should have had a comparative review article.

Look back at those reviews of the Master 128, the Archimedes 310, the A5000,
the A4 notebook, and the Risc PC. They are proper reviews.

Richard Walker

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In message <na.b563774a92.a...@argo.net.invalid>
Mr Dennis <nospa...@argo.net.invalid> wrote:

[ snip ]

> Talk like this will ensure the death of this platform. Clearly that's what
> you want if all you can do is criticise.

And if this platform dies because of a small number of such newsgroup
postings, then it wouldn't have survived anyway. Comments like mine do *not*
dictate the platform (as much as I'd like the constructive ones to).

So critical comments are not allowed? Do we all have to wear our rose-tinted
glasses?


--
Richard.

"I've got everything that you want, Like a heart that is oh, so true."

Paul F. Johnson

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Hiya,

In message <0c7eee934...@riscpc.ntlworld.com>
Richard Walker <runny...@mindless.com> wrote:

> In message <53c0ee9...@blueyonder.co.uk>
> Paul F. Johnson <paulf....@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:

> > Okay, happy now?
>
> Hmm... Not really. Some pretty bar graphs, and a comparison with the
> Mico would be useful... :-) Oh, and for the thing to be published in a
> magazine and/or RiscStation web site.

The Mico was on there. I'm sure of it. Yup, definately there. It's up to
RiscStation to bung them on their website or AU/Archive/RiscWorld to
publish the numbers (and someone at RS to give it to them).



> > Sorry this post was so long, but I've just had the okay to publish
> > these numbers, so thought I should. Thanks Roy :-)
>
> Why do you need an 'OK'?!

They belonged to RiscStation. Without seeking an okay, I could have wound
up in trouble for releasing info. Pretty obvious that.

Jess Hampshire

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In message <2ba5ee934...@riscpc.ntlworld.com>
Richard Walker <runny...@mindless.com> wrote:

Ever heard the term "chinese whispers"? Every time a story is repeated
it gains a bit more drama and deviates from the facts a little more.

A minor administrative cock-up could after a couple of retellings could
turn into a major and deliberate fraud.

Ray Dawson

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Jul 3, 2001, 5:24:57 AM7/3/01
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In article <9dea019...@itworkshop.demon.co.uk>,
Jess Hampshire <je...@itworkshop.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> A minor administrative cock-up could after a couple of retellings could
> turn into a major and deliberate fraud.

Like overcharging a credit card and refusing a refund?

Cheers,

Ray D

--

Ray Dawson
r...@magray.freeserve.co.uk
MagRay - the audio & braille specialists

Richard Walker

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Jul 3, 2001, 2:24:49 PM7/3/01
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In message <9dea019...@itworkshop.demon.co.uk>
Jess Hampshire <je...@itworkshop.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> In message <2ba5ee934...@riscpc.ntlworld.com>
> Richard Walker <runny...@mindless.com> wrote:
>
> > > Or is it that you are just mouthing off on basis of hearsay, just to
> > > sully the name of a developer?
> >
> > Not hearsay.
>
> Ever heard the term "chinese whispers"? Every time a story is repeated
> it gains a bit more drama and deviates from the facts a little more.

Yup.

However, when you hear bad things from people *directly* involved...


--
Richard.

"Watching the skirts you start to flirt now you're in gear."

Matthias Seifert

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On 29 Jun, Paul F. Johnson <paulf....@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:

[...]

> SICK Tests

> SICK V0.94

Uhhh, maybe you should get a more recent version? :-)

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Matthias Seifert

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They are described in the file !SICK.!Help (at least with recent versions
of !SICK).

Richard Walker

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In message <4a9435...@argonet.co.uk>
Ray Dawson <R...@magray.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <9dea019...@itworkshop.demon.co.uk>,
> Jess Hampshire <je...@itworkshop.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > A minor administrative cock-up could after a couple of retellings could
> > turn into a major and deliberate fraud.
>
> Like overcharging a credit card and refusing a refund?

As I did in csa.hardware, I'd just like to add this in here, in case anyone
feels it's relevant to this discussion:

I Richard Walker unreservedly withdraw the libellous and vexatious statements
made by me on csa. hardware and csa.misc between the 28th June 2001 to the 3
July 2001 regarding MicroDigital Limited, its employees and products.

I unreservedly apologise to MicroDigital Limited and its employees for my
wholly unreasonable comments and I hereby give an undertaking not to repeat
or make other libellous and vexatious statements about the company or its
employees.

I further unreservedly apologise to MicroDigital Limited for the libellous
and vexatious statements I made about their products and I hereby give an
undertaking not to repeat or make other libellous and vexatious statements
about the company‘s products.

I should like the following facts known. I do not own nor have I every owned
a product or products manufactured by MicroDigital Limited nor have I ever
had any dealings whatsoever with the company or its employees.

I should like it known that I wrote the statements in an attempt to mislead
readers of the various newsgroups and thereby cause damage to MicroDigital
Limited, its employees and products.

I had absolutely no reason whatsoever to have made such outrageous statements
and I did so without any thought as to the possible consequences of my
actions.

I accept that my statements regarding other postings were made on the
contents as presented. I now realise that they only represent the views of
the writer, they do not include a view from the company's perspective. I
should have taken that fact into account before commenting.

I am truly sorry for my actions and the trouble and inconvenience I have
caused the company and any embarrassment caused to the staff and directors.

I should like it to be known that the company has generously waived its claim
for damages instead they have asked me to make a donation to a charity chosen
by the company.


--
Richard.

"I am the eggman, they are the eggmen. I am the walrus, goo goo g'joob."

Matthias Seifert

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On 04 Jul, Richard Walker <runny...@mindless.com> wrote:

[...]

> I should like it known that I wrote the statements in an attempt to
> mislead readers of the various newsgroups and thereby cause damage to
> MicroDigital Limited, its employees and products.

Hmmm, I'm realy not sure if I should take the risk to comment on that...

Christopher Bazley

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In message <99b1f938.01062...@posting.google.com>

Comprehensive review of the Mico with performance tests:
http://www.bigfoot.com/~chrisbazley/articles/
(I can't remember the rest of the URL)

Countless people, including Simtec, have asked me to do various
speed tests on my Mico... no more, please ;-)

Chris Bazley

Christopher Bazley

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Jul 5, 2001, 3:41:58 PM7/5/01
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In message <na.b563774a92.a...@argo.net.invalid>
Mr Dennis <nospa...@argo.net.invalid> wrote:

> > On 28 Jun 2001 Richard Walker <runny...@mindless.com> wrote:
> > > MicroDigital are *very* dodgy. I would *never* *ever* give them a
> > penny.
> > > They are conning you, and they are conning RISC OS developers.
>

> Shut up and go away.


>
> Talk like this will ensure the death of this platform. Clearly that's what
> you want if all you can do is criticise.

What right do you have to publically call into question the accounts of
those who have been involved in the Mico saga for many, many months? Did
you spend hundreds of pounds on one of these computers? Are you
personally involved?

This is not a matter of idle criticism, it is a simple matter of an exchange
of money for a computer system of a certain advertised specification.
Given the current anticipation of the launch of the Omega, I would say
that MicroDigital's standard of customer service was a rather important
question.

If the RISC OS market cannot support public discussion on such issues
then it looks pretty feeble.

Sorry, but I'm a little peeved...

Chris Bazley

P.S. I'll murder the next person who says "Talk like this will lead to
XYZ bad consequences" - sometimes these newsgroups seem more like a
Orwellian big-brother regime than a public discussion forum where people
are free to exchange opinions and information.

Incidentally, I don't personally believe that MicroDigital are actually
a company operating with malign intent. But I think that the blind RISC
OS advocates should perhaps pay at least some attention to the
accounts of those people who bought the Mico.

Vincent Lefevre

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Jul 5, 2001, 6:17:52 PM7/5/01
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In article <5df67595...@freeuk.com>,
Christopher Bazley <chris...@bigfoot.com> wrote:

> Comprehensive review of the Mico with performance tests:
> http://www.bigfoot.com/~chrisbazley/articles/
> (I can't remember the rest of the URL)

I'd like to point out that the fact the Mico boots up much faster than
your Risc PC isn't due to the hardware, but to RISC OS 4 (the same is
true when switching from RO3 to RO4 on the same machine). And concerning
the hard disc spindown, it is also possible with ADFS (I used to do that
a few years ago, because the HD was making a lot of noise at night).

--
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Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / SPACES project at LORIA

druck

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Jul 5, 2001, 6:46:31 PM7/5/01
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On 5 Jul 2001 Christopher Bazley <chris...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> In message <na.b563774a92.a...@argo.net.invalid>
> Mr Dennis <nospa...@argo.net.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 28 Jun 2001 Richard Walker <runny...@mindless.com> wrote:

[Libelous comments snipped]

>> Shut up and go away.
>>
>> Talk like this will ensure the death of this platform. Clearly that's what
>> you want if all you can do is criticise.
>
> What right do you have to publically call into question the accounts of
> those who have been involved in the Mico saga for many, many months? Did
> you spend hundreds of pounds on one of these computers? Are you
> personally involved?

But AFAIK Richard Walker is not an MD customer, does not have a Mico, and has
admitted making the statements with malicous intent,



> If the RISC OS market cannot support public discussion on such issues
> then it looks pretty feeble.

There is no desire of anyone to prevent genuine greviances by customers of
the product being aired.

> P.S. I'll murder the next person who says "Talk like this will lead to
> XYZ bad consequences" - sometimes these newsgroups seem more like a
> Orwellian big-brother regime than a public discussion forum where people
> are free to exchange opinions and information.

If a company in the RISC OS market was deliberately treating its customers
badly, it would not be in our interest to protect them in any way. In the
current climate, it could well end up with the aggrieved party moving to a
different platform.

> Incidentally, I don't personally believe that MicroDigital are actually
> a company operating with malign intent. But I think that the blind RISC
> OS advocates should perhaps pay at least some attention to the
> accounts of those people who bought the Mico.

I fully admit to being a blind RIC OS advocate but I have been listening. One
reason why I have not placed a deposit on the Omega, is that in the light of
the Mico, I'd like to see how many of the new developments such as PCI and
USB, have working drivers at the day of launch. However if there are no other
alternatives, I will certainly be getting one and start writing the drivers
myself.

Michael Curtis

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Jul 5, 2001, 7:17:07 PM7/5/01
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In message <4a9583de7av...@vinc17.org>
Vincent Lefevre <vincen...@vinc17.org> wrote:

> I'd like to point out that the fact the Mico boots up much faster than
> your Risc PC isn't due to the hardware, but to RISC OS 4 (the same is
> true when switching from RO3 to RO4 on the same machine). And concerning
> the hard disc spindown, it is also possible with ADFS (I used to do that
> a few years ago, because the HD was making a lot of noise at night).

NO! The Mico and RiscStation machines both have faster disc interfaces
and therefore /are/ faster to boot up. When the Omega is working at
full speed the results will be blinding (fast disc i/f + fast
processor!).

--
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I # # Electronics enthusiast
S # #
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Vincent Lefevre

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Jul 6, 2001, 3:34:58 AM7/6/01
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In article <204b89954a%m...@jamjars.ihug.co.nz>,
Michael Curtis <m...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:

> NO! The Mico and RiscStation machines both have faster disc interfaces
> and therefore /are/ faster to boot up.

OK, but is it really significant compared to the difference between RO3
and RO4? Do you have a comparison between the Mico or RiscStation and a
RO4 Risc PC?

Bazley Family

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Jul 5, 2001, 7:46:46 PM7/5/01
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In message <5982d89...@blueyonder.co.uk>

Paul F. Johnson <paulf....@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
[snip]

> software (plus in tests is a damned sight faster than the Mico anyway).

It just ain't so - I've checked. Why should you suppose this to be the
case?

In the realm of speed/graphics, the only significant difference I found
between the RS and Mico was that the RS supports marginally higher video
bandwidth. But given that anyone using demanding screen modes on an
ARM7500 is an insane masochist, I wasn't unduly bothered.

Chris Bazley

Martin Birchall

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Jul 7, 2001, 7:46:15 AM7/7/01
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In article <6a987595...@freeuk.com>,
Christopher Bazley <chris...@bigfoot.com> wrote:

> This is not a matter of idle criticism, it is a simple matter of an
> exchange of money for a computer system of a certain advertised
> specification. Given the current anticipation of the launch of the
> Omega, I would say that MicroDigital's standard of customer service was
> a rather important question.

So Richard Walker has been pursued by MD then! Well, as a "soundless" Mico
owner of 1 year, I hope MD will now pursue owners such as myself, WITH
EQUAL ZEAL TO RECTIFY OUR PROBLEMS! No apologies for shouting.

Martin

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