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drag a directory to the "layout data" window, click on "write CD on
the fly", then write, the CD seems to record (red light on), ejects
but when I try to access it again I get "not an audio track" or "CD-
ROM empty".
I've tried this with new CD-RW's, blanked CD-RWs and with simulation
on or off. What am I doing wrong?
Andrew
Martin Wuerthner
"aw2...@gmail.com" <aw2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just trying out CD Burn and not getting very far. I put a CD-RW in,
> drag a directory to the "layout data" window, click on "write CD on
> the fly", then write, the CD seems to record (red light on), ejects
There is a dialogue box at this stage. Does it say "successful"?
> but when I try to access it again I get "not an audio track" or "CD-
> ROM empty".
There are two potential reasons: 1) the CD was not written correctly
or 2) your CD drive is not compatible with CD-RW media. Of course, if
you tried to read the CD using the CD writer you wrote it with, 2) is
not an issue, so 1) must be the case.
> I've tried this with new CD-RW's, blanked CD-RWs and with simulation
> on or off. What am I doing wrong?
Please try creating an ISO image and writing that. That is far more
reliable. Only if that works OK, then try on the fly writing.
Obviously, it would help if you let us know what kind of CD writer you
have attached and which driver you have configured in CD-Burn. The
device might be incompatible with CD-Burn.
Martin
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<URL:mailto:spam...@mw-software.com> wrote:
> In message <1174993268....@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
> "aw2...@gmail.com" <aw2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Just trying out CD Burn and not getting very far. I put a CD-RW in,
> > drag a directory to the "layout data" window, click on "write CD on
> > the fly", then write, the CD seems to record (red light on), ejects
>
> There is a dialogue box at this stage. Does it say "successful"?
>
> > but when I try to access it again I get "not an audio track" or "CD-
> > ROM empty".
>
> There are two potential reasons: 1) the CD was not written correctly
> or 2) your CD drive is not compatible with CD-RW media. Of course, if
> you tried to read the CD using the CD writer you wrote it with, 2) is
> not an issue, so 1) must be the case.
>
The drive should be fine as it is brand new and reads previously
written CD-RWs.
> > I've tried this with new CD-RW's, blanked CD-RWs and with simulation
> > on or off. What am I doing wrong?
>
> Please try creating an ISO image and writing that. That is far more
> reliable. Only if that works OK, then try on the fly writing.
>
A buffer under-run occured with writing speed 2 (!) but I get a
"successful" dialogue with speed of 1. However clicking on the drive
icon still produces "not an audio track".
> Obviously, it would help if you let us know what kind of CD writer you
> have attached and which driver you have configured in CD-Burn. The
> device might be incompatible with CD-Burn.
>
It's a 52x32x52 CD-RW (Micro-something from Taiwan). The writer is set
to IDE:1 ATAPI CD-RW52xMax
and the reader is set to the same. I assume that's what you mean by
configured driver.
Andrew
jl
aw2...@gmail.com <aw2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just trying out CD Burn and not getting very far. I put a CD-RW in,
> drag a directory to the "layout data" window, click on "write CD on
> the fly", then write, the CD seems to record (red light on), ejects
> but when I try to access it again I get "not an audio track" or "CD-
> ROM empty".
I don't think that program works very reliably. I've ruined a dozen or
more CD-R and only managed to get one or two useable discs.
Jochen
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Martin Wuerthner
"aw2...@gmail.com" <aw2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <cd361eca...@bach.planiverse.com>, Martin Wuerthner
> <URL:mailto:spam...@mw-software.com> wrote:
>> In message <1174993268....@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
>> "aw2...@gmail.com" <aw2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I've tried this with new CD-RW's, blanked CD-RWs and with simulation
>> > on or off. What am I doing wrong?
>>
>> Please try creating an ISO image and writing that. That is far more
>> reliable. Only if that works OK, then try on the fly writing.
>>
> A buffer under-run occured with writing speed 2 (!) but I get a
> "successful" dialogue with speed of 1. However clicking on the drive
> icon still produces "not an audio track".
I presume you had switched "Simulate writing" off. If so, then the
only explanation I can think of is that your CD writer is incompatible
with CD-Burn.
>> Obviously, it would help if you let us know what kind of CD writer you
>> have attached and which driver you have configured in CD-Burn. The
>> device might be incompatible with CD-Burn.
>>
> It's a 52x32x52 CD-RW (Micro-something from Taiwan). The writer is set
> to IDE:1 ATAPI CD-RW52xMax
> and the reader is set to the same. I assume that's what you mean by
> configured driver.
No - there is a "Driver" field further below. What does it say?
CD-Burn is only guaranteed to work with a fixed set of CD writers it
has been tested with. If your device is not one of them (and I guess
you have not checked), then chances are that it fails to work.
David Holden
> Just trying out CD Burn and not getting very far. I put a CD-RW in,
> drag a directory to the "layout data" window, click on "write CD on
> the fly", then write, the CD seems to record (red light on), ejects
> but when I try to access it again I get "not an audio track" or "CD-
> ROM empty".
Don't bother trying to write CDs on the fly if the drive is connected to the
motherboard IDE interface. It's just not fast enough. If you create an ISO
image you should be able to write reliably at 4x, but not normally any
faster.
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Martin Wuerthner wrote:
> In message <1175000465.8...@r56g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>
> "aw2...@gmail.com" <aw2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <cd361eca...@bach.planiverse.com>, Martin Wuerthner
> > <URL:mailto:spam...@mw-software.com> wrote:
> >> In message <1174993268....@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
> >> "aw2...@gmail.com" <aw2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > I've tried this with new CD-RW's, blanked CD-RWs and with simulation
> >> > on or off. What am I doing wrong?
> >>
> >> Please try creating an ISO image and writing that. That is far more
> >> reliable. Only if that works OK, then try on the fly writing.
> >>
> > A buffer under-run occured with writing speed 2 (!) but I get a
> > "successful" dialogue with speed of 1. However clicking on the drive
> > icon still produces "not an audio track".
>
> I presume you had switched "Simulate writing" off. If so, then the
> only explanation I can think of is that your CD writer is incompatible
> with CD-Burn.
>
I've tried it with "simulate writing" on as well. The software came
with the drive from APDL so it must be possible.
> >> Obviously, it would help if you let us know what kind of CD writer you
> >> have attached and which driver you have configured in CD-Burn. The
> >> device might be incompatible with CD-Burn.
> >>
> > It's a 52x32x52 CD-RW (Micro-something from Taiwan). The writer is set
> > to IDE:1 ATAPI CD-RW52xMax
> > and the reader is set to the same. I assume that's what you mean by
> > configured driver.
>
It just says "default".
> No - there is a "Driver" field further below. What does it say?
> CD-Burn is only guaranteed to work with a fixed set of CD writers it
> has been tested with. If your device is not one of them (and I guess
> you have not checked), then chances are that it fails to work.
>
The manual says "other MMC compatible drives " so I can't imagine
David at APDL selling one that wasn't compatible. Maybe I need to keep
trying. Is the CDBurn support group still going?
Andrew
Dave Plowman (News)
jl <j...@spamnet.co.uk> wrote:
> > Just trying out CD Burn and not getting very far. I put a CD-RW in,
> > drag a directory to the "layout data" window, click on "write CD on
> > the fly", then write, the CD seems to record (red light on), ejects
> > but when I try to access it again I get "not an audio track" or "CD-
> > ROM empty".
> I don't think that program works very reliably. I've ruined a dozen or
> more CD-R and only managed to get one or two useable discs.
Are you using an 'approved' (ie tested by Martin) CD writer?
I've found it an OK prog once I got round my finger problems.
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Chris Evans
<URL:mailto:spam...@mw-software.com> wrote:
> I presume you had switched "Simulate writing" off.
I recall a customer who managed to write his first CD two years of failure
when I pointed out you need to turn simulate off!
I don't know if the documentation has been changed but it suggested doing a
simulate but then never said 'if succesfull redo with simulate off'
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> In article <4eca20...@spamnet.co.uk>,
> jl <j...@spamnet.co.uk> wrote:
> > > Just trying out CD Burn and not getting very far. I put a CD-RW in,
> > > drag a directory to the "layout data" window, click on "write CD on
> > > the fly", then write, the CD seems to record (red light on), ejects
> > > but when I try to access it again I get "not an audio track" or "CD-
> > > ROM empty".
>
> > I don't think that program works very reliably. I've ruined a dozen or
> > more CD-R and only managed to get one or two useable discs.
>
> Are you using an 'approved' (ie tested by Martin) CD writer?
>
It's a Microstar MS8352M.
Andrew
> I've found it an OK prog once I got round my finger problems.
>
?
Martin Wuerthner
"Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <4eca20...@spamnet.co.uk>,
> jl <j...@spamnet.co.uk> wrote:
>> > Just trying out CD Burn and not getting very far. I put a CD-RW in,
>> > drag a directory to the "layout data" window, click on "write CD on
>> > the fly", then write, the CD seems to record (red light on), ejects
>> > but when I try to access it again I get "not an audio track" or "CD-
>> > ROM empty".
>
>> I don't think that program works very reliably. I've ruined a dozen or
>> more CD-R and only managed to get one or two useable discs.
>
> Are you using an 'approved' (ie tested by Martin) CD writer?
^^^^^^ Steffen
I cannot do everything. ;-)
Martin Wuerthner
"aw2...@gmail.com" <aw2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Martin Wuerthner wrote:
>
>> I presume you had switched "Simulate writing" off. If so, then the
>> only explanation I can think of is that your CD writer is incompatible
>> with CD-Burn.
>>
> I've tried it with "simulate writing" on as well.
Fine, but please note that that ONLY does simulation. The important
question is whether you have tried burning the created ISO Image with
"Simulate writing" OFF.
> The software came with the drive from APDL so it must be possible.
OK, in that case, I presume that APDL have tested the device with the
software and found it working and so they should be able to help.
Alan Wrigley
Martin Wuerthner <spam...@mw-software.com> wrote:
> In message <4eca2b6...@davenoise.co.uk>
> "Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Are you using an 'approved' (ie tested by Martin) CD writer?
> ^^^^^^ Steffen
> I cannot do everything. ;-)
Sssshhhh! Don't disillusion them!
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Dave Plowman (News)
Martin Wuerthner <spam...@mw-software.com> wrote:
> In message <4eca2b6...@davenoise.co.uk>
> "Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <4eca20...@spamnet.co.uk>,
> > jl <j...@spamnet.co.uk> wrote:
> >> > Just trying out CD Burn and not getting very far. I put a CD-RW in,
> >> > drag a directory to the "layout data" window, click on "write CD on
> >> > the fly", then write, the CD seems to record (red light on), ejects
> >> > but when I try to access it again I get "not an audio track" or "CD-
> >> > ROM empty".
> >
> >> I don't think that program works very reliably. I've ruined a dozen or
> >> more CD-R and only managed to get one or two useable discs.
> >
> > Are you using an 'approved' (ie tested by Martin) CD writer?
> ^^^^^^ Steffen
> I cannot do everything. ;-)
Sorry - Martin is easier to spell than Steffen. ;-)_
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> In message <1175003554.4...@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>
> "aw2...@gmail.com" <aw2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Martin Wuerthner wrote:
> >
> >> I presume you had switched "Simulate writing" off. If so, then the
> >> only explanation I can think of is that your CD writer is incompatible
> >> with CD-Burn.
> >>
> > I've tried it with "simulate writing" on as well.
>
> Fine, but please note that that ONLY does simulation. The important
> question is whether you have tried burning the created ISO Image with
> "Simulate writing" OFF.
>
Andrew
Steve Fryatt
<4eca20...@spamnet.co.uk>:
> In article <1174993268....@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
> aw2...@gmail.com <aw2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Just trying out CD Burn and not getting very far. I put a CD-RW in,
> > drag a directory to the "layout data" window, click on "write CD on
> > the fly", then write, the CD seems to record (red light on), ejects
> > but when I try to access it again I get "not an audio track" or "CD-
> > ROM empty".
>
> I don't think that program works very reliably. I've ruined a dozen or
> more CD-R and only managed to get one or two useable discs.
While I've never had a duff disc that I can remember, and I must have got
through nearly 200 by now.
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Dave Barnett
wrote:
I found that unless the CD-RWs are specified to work at 4x speed, you
will not get reliable recording or none at all. Fortunately, my son
has a PeeCee :-) or should that be :-(
Strangely, some very cheap unbranded CDRs work OK.
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Dave Plowman (News)
aw2...@gmail.com <aw2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Martin Wuerthner wrote:
> > In message <1175003554.4...@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>
> > "aw2...@gmail.com" <aw2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Martin Wuerthner wrote:
> > >
> > >> I presume you had switched "Simulate writing" off. If so, then the
> > >> only explanation I can think of is that your CD writer is
> > >> incompatible with CD-Burn.
> > >>
> > > I've tried it with "simulate writing" on as well.
> >
> > Fine, but please note that that ONLY does simulation. The important
> > question is whether you have tried burning the created ISO Image with
> > "Simulate writing" OFF.
> >
> Yes, I get "Data successfully written" but the CD can't then be read.
Wonder if this is a problem with the CD reader? The whole thing's a
minefield.
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I had a couple due to finger trouble, but no problems since. Mainly audio
types.
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druck
> I found that unless the CD-RWs are specified to work at 4x speed, you
> will not get reliable recording or none at all. Fortunately, my son
> has a PeeCee :-) or should that be :-(
If you can only burn slowly, buy the discs closest to that speed, rather than
more expensive higher speed ones. That goes for all types of CDs and DVDs.
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Dave Symes
druck <ne...@druck.freeuk.com> wrote:
> On 27 Mar 2007 Dave Barnett <nos...@davebarnett.me.uk> wrote:
> > I found that unless the CD-RWs are specified to work at 4x speed, you
> > will not get reliable recording or none at all. Fortunately, my son
> > has a PeeCee :-) or should that be :-(
> If you can only burn slowly, buy the discs closest to that speed, rather
> than more expensive higher speed ones. That goes for all types of CDs
> and DVDs.
> ---druck
I forsee a problem...
If you burn on both A RO machine and a PC, buying just slow disks is kind
of going to hamper your PC burning somewhat. ;-)
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recognising a CD-R and a CD-R/W but CDFS just says "disc drive is
empty" in the iconbar menu.
Andrew
Martin Wuerthner
"aw2...@gmail.com" <aw2...@gmail.com> wrote:
That is perfectly normal. For obvious reasons, CD-Burn has been
written to deal with empty media whereas CDFS has been written to only
deal with media with a valid filesystem image on.
So, no matter whether the CD is still completely empty or whether
there is some content, CD-Burn is able to detect what kind of medium
it is and whether there is anything on it. CDFS, on the other hand,
displays an error for anything but a valid CD, i.e., for both empty
CDs and for CDs that were not written properly.
So, after you have written the ISO image to the CD, what does CD-Burn
(CD Tools, "Show medium information") report about the CD? Does it
show any used space?
druck
> In article <1bf947ca...@druck.freeuk.net>,
> druck <ne...@druck.freeuk.com> wrote:
> > If you can only burn slowly, buy the discs closest to that speed, rather
> > than more expensive higher speed ones. That goes for all types of CDs
> > and DVDs.
>
> of going to hamper your PC burning somewhat. ;-)
Buy two different sorts then.
Faster discs are meant to be written fast, writing slowly can be ineffective.
aw2...@gmail.com
Martin Wuerthner wrote:
> In message <1175029504.5...@p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>
> "aw2...@gmail.com" <aw2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > What puzzles me is the fact that CDBurn can discriminate between
> > recognising a CD-R and a CD-R/W but CDFS just says "disc drive is
> > empty" in the iconbar menu.
>
> That is perfectly normal. For obvious reasons, CD-Burn has been
> written to deal with empty media whereas CDFS has been written to only
> deal with media with a valid filesystem image on.
>
> So, no matter whether the CD is still completely empty or whether
> there is some content, CD-Burn is able to detect what kind of medium
> it is and whether there is anything on it. CDFS, on the other hand,
> displays an error for anything but a valid CD, i.e., for both empty
> CDs and for CDs that were not written properly.
>
> So, after you have written the ISO image to the CD, what does CD-Burn
> (CD Tools, "Show medium information") report about the CD? Does it
> show any used space?
>
No, the "writable" and "deletable " boxes become unticked but
everyhting else is "?" or "Unknown".
Andrew
David Holden
On 27-Mar-2007, Dave Barnett <nos...@davebarnett.me.uk> wrote:
> I found that unless the CD-RWs are specified to work at 4x speed, you
> will not get reliable recording or none at all. Fortunately, my son
> has a PeeCee :-) or should that be :-(
>
I've never found this. I have absolutely no problems writing to 52x CDR
media, normally either at 4x or 8x.
> Strangely, some very cheap unbranded CDRs work OK.
This is the wisest advice. Avoid the expensive 'quality' brands, especially
the ones with a blue or green tint to the surface. You'll probably be able
to write to them OK but you may have difficulty reading them.
I've written many thousands of CDs on RiscPCs and my failure rate is so low
as to be almost nil. If it does happen I normally find it's due to a
physical blemish on the CD's surface.
Martin Wuerthner
"aw2...@gmail.com" <aw2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Martin Wuerthner wrote:
>
>> So, after you have written the ISO image to the CD, what does CD-Burn
>> (CD Tools, "Show medium information") report about the CD? Does it
>> show any used space?
>>
> No, the "writable" and "deletable " boxes become unticked but
> everyhting else is "?" or "Unknown".
So, it looks like either
(a) the drive is broken
OR
(b) the drive is incompatible with CD-Burn
In either case you need to discuss this with APDL.
There is a possible third alternative: The CD-RW medium brand might be
incompatible with the device. Did you try with a normal CD-R as well?
jl
Dave Symes <d...@ukgateway.net> wrote:
> I forsee a problem...
> If you burn on both A RO machine and a PC, buying just slow disks is kind
> of going to hamper your PC burning somewhat. ;-)
Even if you manage to buy slow discs.
aw2...@gmail.com
Martin Wuerthner wrote:
> In message <1175041023.9...@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
> "aw2...@gmail.com" <aw2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Martin Wuerthner wrote:
> >
> >> So, after you have written the ISO image to the CD, what does CD-Burn
> >> (CD Tools, "Show medium information") report about the CD? Does it
> >> show any used space?
> >>
> > No, the "writable" and "deletable " boxes become unticked but
> > everyhting else is "?" or "Unknown".
>
> So, it looks like either
> (a) the drive is broken
> OR
> (b) the drive is incompatible with CD-Burn
>
> In either case you need to discuss this with APDL.
>
Speaking to APDL, it seems that the problem was the writing process
not working somehow - I was getting buffer underruns at slow speeds.
The problem wasn't something slowing it down but the not being allowed
to befast enough. I tried increasing the speed as APDL say it
definitely should be able to record at 4x, so I increased it to 8x and
it worked straight away. CDFS reads it (CR-RW) no problem. Thanks all
for the help.
Andrew
Alan P Dawes
jl <j...@spamnet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <4eca4f...@ukgateway.net>,
> Dave Symes <d...@ukgateway.net> wrote:
> > I forsee a problem...
> > If you burn on both A RO machine and a PC, buying just slow disks is kind
> > of going to hamper your PC burning somewhat. ;-)
> Even if you manage to buy slow discs.
Audio CDRs are designed to be written to 'in real time'. These were the
only CDRs that I could find a couple of years ago that would work with my
old Yamaha CD writer. However now I create the image on my RiscPC and burn
it on a PC.
Alan
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Steffen Huber
> Just trying out CD Burn and not getting very far. I put a CD-RW in,
> drag a directory to the "layout data" window, click on "write CD on
> the fly", then write, the CD seems to record (red light on), ejects
> but when I try to access it again I get "not an audio track" or "CD-
> ROM empty".
>
> on or off. What am I doing wrong?
You have also emailed me, but for the benefit of others who are reading
here, I am replying here.
First of all, a useful error report for that kind of problem
should include at least the following information:
- type of drive
- type of machine
- OS version used
- CDBurn version used
- type of media used (brand, speed)
It would also be useful to know if you have been able to write
CD-Rs successfully. This would be my preferred next step for
analyzing the problem - if it works with CD-Rs, a lot of the
possible error scenarios just vanish. The next best thing
would be to put the writer in a PC and confirm that it works
OK with exactly this media.
Unfortunately, from the description you give, many sources of errors
could be responsible. First of all, you could have an incompatible
drive that doesn't work properly with CDBurn, or one that doesn't work
properly on whatever interface you have connected it (I gather from
later postings that you use a Risc PC, internal IDE, and a
Microstar MS8352M, which is likely an OEM drive). Since you bought
the drive bundled with CDBurn from APDL, I judge the probability of
having an incompatible drive to be very low.
One problem might be that your Risc PC's power supply is just on the
edge of being able to supply enough power for the drive to work
properly with the medium you use. If the power supply can't deliver,
there is a surprising range of obscure errors that might happen.
Another problem might be that CDFS - for usually unknown reasons -
decides that it does not like CD-RW reading. Could you please
confirm what CDBurn's medium information window says about the
medium after writing to it. Does CDBurn manage to do an "Extract
Track"?
A common error source is to use a type of medium that your writer
does not like. For maximum compatibility, I would suggest using a
CD-RW medium which is specced for "1x-4x writing speed", this is
a good range for common RISC OS usage on a Risc PC, as it is unlikely
that you will be able to write with a higher speed, and medium
compatibility is usually best (not only writing, but also reading
on other devices). CD-RW is a lot more fuzzy than CD-R in this
respect.
What does the CDBurn configuration dialogue show inside the "Driver"
field? "Default" I suspect? We could try to create a custom driver
for your writer based on one of the Sony or Lite-On driver files
to see if this changes anything.
Have you made sure that the writing speed you used is compatible
with the medium you tried? According to the MMC standard, if the
software specifies a medium-incompatible speed, the drive should
use the nearest possible speed for the medium, but many drives
are not well-behaved. CDBurn should really only provide the speeds
that the drive reports to be available, but this is not implemented
yet.
OK, that's all for now.
Steffen
--
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Steffen Huber
>> Just trying out CD Burn and not getting very far. I put a CD-RW in,
>> drag a directory to the "layout data" window, click on "write CD on
>> the fly", then write, the CD seems to record (red light on), ejects
>> but when I try to access it again I get "not an audio track" or "CD-
>> ROM empty".
>
> more CD-R and only managed to get one or two useable discs.
As long as the hardware is OK (machine, cabling, drive, power supply,
medium), CDBurn is extremely reliable. I have written nearly 10000 CDs
and DVDs to date, basically without any ruined disc.
If your hardware is either unreliable or not compatible, don't
blame the software.
Jim Lesurf
<alan....@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <4eca4f...@spamnet.co.uk>, jl <j...@spamnet.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <4eca4f...@ukgateway.net>, Dave Symes
> > <d...@ukgateway.net> wrote:
> > > I forsee a problem...
> > > If you burn on both A RO machine and a PC, buying just slow disks is
> > > kind of going to hamper your PC burning somewhat. ;-)
> > Even if you manage to buy slow discs.
> Audio CDRs are designed to be written to 'in real time'. These were the
> only CDRs that I could find a couple of years ago that would work with
> my old Yamaha CD writer. However now I create the image on my RiscPC and
> burn it on a PC.
I also used to use Audio CDRs with CDBurn when I used a RPC. However since
changing to an Iyonix (and a different writer) I can't get the system to
write slowly enough for these to work. If I set a speed below x4 the writer
ignores the setting and runs at x4 regardless of the setting or the type of
disc I am using. Hence I now use 'data' CDRs for CD audio.
The snag is that the discs that write well at higher speed then don't
always play correctly on all of the audio CD players I use.
The problem seems to be that the CD writer I now have refuses to write
slowly enough to write onto the discs optimised for use in audio players.
But when using discs which can cope with a minimum write speed of x4 that
the writer is prepared to use, the results have a lower modulation depth
when read, making the results difficult for some audio players to read.
But so far as I can tell, none of this is the responsibility of CDBurn or
CDVDBurn. The old drive I used with my RPC was a Plextor via SCSI, but with
the Iyonix I am using a Sony IIRC.
Which makes me wonder:
Are there Plextor writers I could use with Iyonix that *do* allow you to
actually use speeds lower than x4, and so write OK onto CDR discs optimised
for use for audio players?
Or is there a way to force the drive I have to write slower?
Slainte,
Jim
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jl
I bought the stuff brand new as a package (100 ukp), so I assume it is
reliable.
But these days one never knows.
Alan Calder
From my experience, Jochen, CDBurn is very reliable. I have written over a
hundred CD-Rs with it with no problems. Using the cheap PC World own brand
cds.
Cheers
Alan
--
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Dave Plowman (News)
> reliable.
> But these days one never knows.
But was the package installed by the dealer?
--
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aw2...@gmail.com
Well I tried the CD-RW I'd recorded with CDFS filename translations on
a PC today but it just thought it was empty. I wasunder the
impression that this form of write would be recognised? The drive was
rewritable and I'm sure it was Windows XP. What is causing this?
Andrew
jl
Alan Calder <alan_...@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:
> From my experience, Jochen, CDBurn is very reliable. I have written
> over a hundred CD-Rs with it with no problems. Using the cheap PC World
> own brand cds.
I usually use Infiniti disc because I can print onto them directly, but
for the RiscPC setup I bought a variety of different discs in order to
experiment. I have had very poor results Some discs would at least store
up to about 400k of backup data, most of the others just reported an error
message and were spoiled.
jl
Dave Plowman (News) <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <4ecb0e...@spamnet.co.uk>,
> jl <j...@spamnet.co.uk> wrote:
> > I bought the stuff brand new as a package (100 ukp), so I assume it is
> > reliable.
> > But these days one never knows.
> But was the package installed by the dealer?
You can call me a sort of honorary dealer.
David Holden
I'm not sure what you mean by 'CDFS filename translation'. If you create a
'normal' ISO format CD then it should be readable on any platform. If you
use the appropriate 'dot extensions' then the files should be readable on
(almost) any platform, assuming that the filetypes themselves are recognised
by that platform, eg. txt, jpg, gif, etc.
Of course, if you've just used Acorn filetypes then the CD will only be
useable on a machine which can recognise them, ie. another RISC OS machine.
Steffen Huber
If you had "Add Joliet extensions" ticked, either your PC hardware is
not capable of reading the medium correctly (which is not too
unlikely, seeing the problems you had writing it!), or it is
somehow configured to take CD-RWs as "random writable media" and
therefore ignores the things in ISO9660 format on it.
If you had not ticked "Add Joliet extensions", you have probably
not produced a PC-readable medium, as there will be PC incompatible
filenames on it.
aw2...@gmail.com
I think it must have been the PC because I had joliet extensions
ticked and the filename translation standard was Acorn CDFS which I
understand is compatible with PCs? The files were 10 jpegs and all
have /jpg extensions on the CDFS display. What is the function of
"random writable media"?
Andrew
Alan Griffin
jl <j...@spamnet.co.uk> wrote:
> I usually use Infiniti disc because I can print onto them directly, but
> for the RiscPC setup I bought a variety of different discs in order to
> experiment. I have had very poor results Some discs would at least
> store up to about 400k of backup data, most of the others just reported
> an error message and were spoiled.
I've never had any problems with CD Burn.
I normally buy discs from Maplins when they're on offer (about 15 pounds
for a hundred) and I've never had a failure!
Alan Griffin
Donald
> Jochen
I bought my drive from CJE I am not an expert at such things but it works
every time without fail.
Donald
Liz Leyden
Donald <sco...@freeuk.com> wrote:
> I bought my drive from CJE I am not an expert at such things but it works
> every time without fail.
> Donald
>
Likewise, except that mine doesn't.
Slainte
Liz
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Liz Leyden
Dave Symes <d...@ukgateway.net> wrote:
> In article <1bf947ca...@druck.freeuk.net>,
> druck <ne...@druck.freeuk.com> wrote:
>> On 27 Mar 2007 Dave Barnett <nos...@davebarnett.me.uk> wrote:
>> > I found that unless the CD-RWs are specified to work at 4x speed, you
>> > will not get reliable recording or none at all. Fortunately, my son
>> > has a PeeCee :-) or should that be :-(
>
>> If you can only burn slowly, buy the discs closest to that speed, rather
>> than more expensive higher speed ones. That goes for all types of CDs
>> and DVDs.
>
>> ---druck
>
> I forsee a problem...
>
> If you burn on both A RO machine and a PC, buying just slow disks is kind
> of going to hamper your PC burning somewhat. ;-)
My solution (having eventually discovered I'd been sold a CD-burner
together with CDBurn, but the burner hadn't been tested with the prog)
was to shift just about every sort of work to the PC.
Dave Plowman (News)
Liz Leyden <l...@liz13.uklinux.net> wrote:
> > I bought my drive from CJE I am not an expert at such things but it
> > works every time without fail.
> > Donald
> >
> Likewise, except that mine doesn't.
I find it hard to believe CJE would have sold you an unsuitable CD writer.
--
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Dave Symes
Liz Leyden <l...@liz13.uklinux.net> wrote:
Dave the Grumpy old B' wrote:
> > I forsee a problem...
> >
> > If you burn on both A RO machine and a PC, buying just slow disks is
> > kind of going to hamper your PC burning somewhat. ;-)
> My solution (having eventually discovered I'd been sold a CD-burner
> together with CDBurn, but the burner hadn't been tested with the prog)
> was to shift just about every sort of work to the PC.
> Slainte
> Liz
Indeedy Liz, if you've got something like Nero or similar, it's easy peasy.
Word of Vista warning though, Nero 6 doesn't play with Vista (Issues) so
you need to update to version 7
Cheers
Dave S
--
jl
> My solution (having eventually discovered I'd been sold a CD-burner
> together with CDBurn, but the burner hadn't been tested with the prog)
> was to shift just about every sort of work to the PC.
That's what I had to do.
jl
> Liz Leyden <l...@liz13.uklinux.net> wrote:
> > > I bought my drive from CJE I am not an expert at such things but it
> > > works every time without fail.
> > > Donald
> > >
> > Likewise, except that mine doesn't.
> I find it hard to believe CJE would have sold you an unsuitable CD
> writer.
I don't. Like Liz I bought a complete package and have had very little
success.
Ray Dawson
> In article <4ecddab...@davenoise.co.uk>,
> Dave Plowman (News) <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <1b19aecd...@liz13.uklinux.net>,
> > Liz Leyden <l...@liz13.uklinux.net> wrote:
> > > > I bought my drive from CJE I am not an expert at such things but
it
> > > > works every time without fail.
> > > > Donald
> > > >
> > > Likewise, except that mine doesn't.
>
> > I find it hard to believe CJE would have sold you an unsuitable CD
> > writer.
>
> I don't. Like Liz I bought a complete package and have had very little
> success.
Or me. I bought a complete package of CD burner and software from the
Acorn company in Cambridge, whose name I can't remember, and never managed
to burn one CD with it. I bought CDBurn to see if that would work, but
didn't have a lot of success with that either.
Something like £200 wasted.
Cheers,
Ray D
Kevin Wells
jl <j...@spamnet.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <4ecddab...@davenoise.co.uk>,
> Dave Plowman (News) <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
>> In article <1b19aecd...@liz13.uklinux.net>,
>> Liz Leyden <l...@liz13.uklinux.net> wrote:
>> > > I bought my drive from CJE I am not an expert at such things but it
>> > > works every time without fail.
>> > > Donald
>> > >
>> > Likewise, except that mine doesn't.
>
>> I find it hard to believe CJE would have sold you an unsuitable CD
>> writer.
>
>
>I don't. Like Liz I bought a complete package and have had very little
>success.
>
>Jochen
>
When my CD rewriter was working I found that burning at the maximum
speed of the CD Disc or worked better than burning at 1x or 2x.
I had failure at 1x and 2x but at 12x it seemed to work all the time.
--
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Chris Ward
Similarly with Me.
I think the comapnys name went with ##### and some fables.
I spent a long time with them, SA and various clashes.
Its sat in my computer - not connected.
Again 200UKP of wasted riscos money.
Chris
--
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RiscOS technology with ARM chips make:
'.... the best Computer System in the world.... '
Alan Calder
wrote:
> In article <gemini.jfz3us0...@magray.freeserve.co.uk>, Ray
> Dawson <URL:mailto:r...@magray.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> > jl <j...@spamnet.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <4ecddab...@davenoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News)
> > > <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
[Snip]
> > >
> > > I don't. Like Liz I bought a complete package and have had very
> > > little success.
> >
> > Or me. I bought a complete package of CD burner and software from the
> > Acorn company in Cambridge, whose name I can't remember, and never
> > managed to burn one CD with it. I bought CDBurn to see if that would
> > work, but didn't have a lot of success with that either.
[Snip]
> Similarly with Me.
> I think the comapnys name went with ##### and some fables.
> I spent a long time with them, SA and various clashes. Its sat in my
> computer - not connected. Again 200UKP of wasted riscos money.
Well you have all been very unlucky. I bought mine from CJE and it has
always just worked - once I got the hang of putting in the empty disks the
right way up!
Dave Plowman (News)
> Something like £200 wasted.
Why didn't you demand your money back?
--
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Ray Dawson
> In article <gemini.jfz3us0...@magray.freeserve.co.uk>,
> Ray Dawson <r...@magray.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> > jl <j...@spamnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > In article <4ecddab...@davenoise.co.uk>,
> > > Dave Plowman (News) <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > In article <1b19aecd...@liz13.uklinux.net>,
> > > > Liz Leyden <l...@liz13.uklinux.net> wrote:
> > > > > > I bought my drive from CJE I am not an expert at such things
> > > > > > but it works every time without fail. Donald
> > > > > >
> > > > > Likewise, except that mine doesn't.
> > >
> > > > I find it hard to believe CJE would have sold you an unsuitable CD
> > > > writer.
> > >
> > > I don't. Like Liz I bought a complete package and have had very
> > > little success.
>
> > Or me. I bought a complete package of CD burner and software from the
> > Acorn company in Cambridge, whose name I can't remember, and never
> > managed to burn one CD with it. I bought CDBurn to see if that would
> > work, but didn't have a lot of success with that either.
>
> > Something like £200 wasted.
>
> Why didn't you demand your money back?
>
I did, but they came up with all sorts of excuses why it was the fault of
my machine, including the fact that my 2 slice power supply wouldn't
support it. In the end they disappeared from view and stopped answering
the telephone.
I seem to get caught by all the crooks on the RISC OS scene :-(
Cheers,
Ray D
Alan Griffin
Alan Calder <alan_...@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:
> Well you have all been very unlucky. I bought mine from CJE and it has
> always just worked - once I got the hang of putting in the empty disks
> the right way up!
Mine has never failed, either for data or audio!
Alan Griffin
David
Alan Calder <alan_...@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:
And me - always worked (Iyonix) and then bought a DVD drive in Hong
Kong to replace the worn out CD drive, again no problems at all.
--
Dave Wisnia, Leeds, UK
Graham Pickles
My experience is the same as Alan's regarding CD burner. Again I bought
my system from CJE as part of my Iyonix and am burning CDs with no
trouble several times a week. The CDs are mainly of images for the
museum where I work.
Regards,
--
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Whitby Museum http://www.whitbymuseum.org.uk
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Dave Plowman (News)
Right. But my comment referred to CJE. Are you tarring them with the same
brush? If so, we should be told, - given the amount of plugging they get
on here, etc.
FWIW I bought my package from Castle at an Epsom show. The writer was a
Yamaha SCSI, so expensive. But worked ok until the Yamaha failed after not
much use - but just more than a year. It wasn't a 'normal' CD drive fault,
but one with the SCSI chips - so really not one which should have happened
at all. No help from Castle or Yamaha - the whole saga put me off both of
them. Either could have offered a new drive at a cut price out of goodwill.
I replaced it with a TEAC IDE bought from a box shifter. It works fine -
as did a Philips I bought for the other machine.
--
*Many hamsters only blink one eye at a time *
Liz Leyden
Dave Symes <d...@ukgateway.net> wrote:
Tx. I think I'm going to say with XP for the foreseeable future, i.e.
unless my machine/s die/s and I have no option or some future PS
upgrade won't run on XP.
Liz Leyden
"Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <1b19aecd...@liz13.uklinux.net>,
> Liz Leyden <l...@liz13.uklinux.net> wrote:
>> > I bought my drive from CJE I am not an expert at such things but it
>> > works every time without fail.
>> > Donald
>> >
>> Likewise, except that mine doesn't.
>
> I find it hard to believe CJE would have sold you an unsuitable CD writer.
>
They said as much on this group: something to the effect that I
couldn't expect Steffen to have tested it on every new writer which
came out.
Liz Leyden
"Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <gemini.jfz3us0...@magray.freeserve.co.uk>,
> Ray Dawson <r...@magray.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>> jl <j...@spamnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> > In article <4ecddab...@davenoise.co.uk>,
>> > Dave Plowman (News) <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
>> > > In article <1b19aecd...@liz13.uklinux.net>,
>> > > Liz Leyden <l...@liz13.uklinux.net> wrote:
>> > > > > I bought my drive from CJE I am not an expert at such things but
>> it
>> > > > > works every time without fail.
>> > > > > Donald
>> > > > >
>> > > > Likewise, except that mine doesn't.
>> >
>> > > I find it hard to believe CJE would have sold you an unsuitable CD
>> > > writer.
>> >
>> > I don't. Like Liz I bought a complete package and have had very little
>> > success.
>
>> Or me. I bought a complete package of CD burner and software from the
>> Acorn company in Cambridge, whose name I can't remember, and never
>> managed to burn one CD with it. I bought CDBurn to see if that would
>> work, but didn't have a lot of success with that either.
>
>> Something like £200 wasted.
>
> Why didn't you demand your money back?
In my case it was because I assumed I was doing something wrong, so it
was well over the 12 month period when I eventually found out I
wasn't.
:-(
Dave Plowman (News)
Liz Leyden <l...@liz13.uklinux.net> wrote:
> In message <4ecddab...@davenoise.co.uk>
> "Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <1b19aecd...@liz13.uklinux.net>,
> > Liz Leyden <l...@liz13.uklinux.net> wrote:
> >> > I bought my drive from CJE I am not an expert at such things but it
> >> > works every time without fail.
> >> > Donald
> >> >
> >> Likewise, except that mine doesn't.
> >
> > I find it hard to believe CJE would have sold you an unsuitable CD
> > writer.
> >
> They said as much on this group: something to the effect that I
> couldn't expect Steffen to have tested it on every new writer which
> came out.
But Steffen doesn't own CJE or sell CD hardware?
I'd expect a RISC OS dealer only to sell suitable CD hardware - given the
problems with incompatible drives have been around since day one even with
plain CDFS. And if he didn't to refund your money as with any other faulty
product. Or perhaps I'm missing something?
--
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David Holden
On 4-Apr-2007, "Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> FWIW I bought my package from Castle at an Epsom show. The writer was a
> Yamaha SCSI, so expensive. But worked ok until the Yamaha failed after not
> much use - but just more than a year. It wasn't a 'normal' CD drive fault,
> but one with the SCSI chips - so really not one which should have happened
> at all. No help from Castle or Yamaha - the whole saga put me off both of
> them. Either could have offered a new drive at a cut price out of
> goodwill.
This was common for the Yamaha drives. A very large proportion of them
seemed to fail after slightly more than a year, especially if fitted
internally in a RiscPC as they got *very* hot. That's the main reason I
never supplied Yamaha drives even though they were the cheapest and so would
have given me a bigger profit margin.
Supplying CD writers for Acorn machines can be a minefield. I always make
sure a particular model works but with some makes it's necessary to test
every batch in case the firmware has changed. This is particularly true of
the cheaper brands since they're normally re-badged drives from a major
manufacturer and so more liable to change.
--
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Dave Plowman (News)
David Holden <black...@apdl.co.uk> wrote:
> > FWIW I bought my package from Castle at an Epsom show. The writer was
> > a Yamaha SCSI, so expensive. But worked ok until the Yamaha failed
> > after not much use - but just more than a year. It wasn't a 'normal'
> > CD drive fault, but one with the SCSI chips - so really not one which
> > should have happened at all. No help from Castle or Yamaha - the whole
> > saga put me off both of them. Either could have offered a new drive at
> > a cut price out of goodwill.
> This was common for the Yamaha drives. A very large proportion of them
> seemed to fail after slightly more than a year, especially if fitted
> internally in a RiscPC as they got *very* hot.
Yes. However, mine was an external one in a Yamaha caddy complete with
cooling fan so that excuse didn't apply.
> That's the main reason I
> never supplied Yamaha drives even though they were the cheapest and so
> would have given me a bigger profit margin.
Right. Profit must have been the motive as the selling price was little
different from other makes. Yamaha offered a fixed price 'repair' but the
cost was such that they'd make a large profit on the deal as I reckon it
was more than the ex factory price of a new unit. And several times the
cost of a replacement IDE unit.
> Supplying CD writers for Acorn machines can be a minefield. I always
> make sure a particular model works but with some makes it's necessary to
> test every batch in case the firmware has changed. This is particularly
> true of the cheaper brands since they're normally re-badged drives from
> a major manufacturer and so more liable to change.
Indeed. It's why I'd be happy to pay more than from a box shifter. But
that's with hindsight after my experience with Castle.
--
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David Holden
On 5-Apr-2007, "Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> > This was common for the Yamaha drives. A very large proportion of them
> > seemed to fail after slightly more than a year, especially if fitted
> > internally in a RiscPC as they got *very* hot.
>
> Yes. However, mine was an external one in a Yamaha caddy complete with
> cooling fan so that excuse didn't apply.
Yes, I didn't mean to imply that the heat was a main cause of failure,
though it may have contributed. However it did tend to make CD writing
expensive because when they got hot, say, after writing a CD or two, you'd
have to wait for the drive to cool down and until it did you'd get coasters.
Dave Plowman (News)
David Holden <black...@apdl.co.uk> wrote:
Mine was initially mainly used for archiving LPs - so had lots of time to
cool between usage. It only managed about 30 CDs before failing. Rather
later I bought a secondhand slightly later faulty one off Ebay - having
first ascertained the SCSI side still worked, ie the SCSI ident was
recognised, and made two out of one. That still will burn ok - but I could
never get it to read properly.
--
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Stuart
Dave Plowman (News) <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> FWIW I bought my package from Castle at an Epsom show. The writer was a
> Yamaha SCSI, so expensive. But worked ok until the Yamaha failed after
> not much use - but just more than a year.
I did the same and had the same experience. Yamahas were failing "all over
the place" but because it was over a year and outside warranty I shrugged
my shoulders and didn't bother pursuing it.
Instead I bought an even more expensive Plextor from CJE and it's still in
use.
--
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Alan Griffin
David Holden <black...@apdl.co.uk> wrote:
> > FWIW I bought my package from Castle at an Epsom show. The writer was
> > a Yamaha SCSI, so expensive. But worked ok until the Yamaha failed
> > after not much use - but just more than a year. It wasn't a 'normal'
> > CD drive fault, but one with the SCSI chips - so really not one which
> > should have happened at all. No help from Castle or Yamaha - the
> > whole saga put me off both of them. Either could have offered a new
> > drive at a cut price out of goodwill.
> This was common for the Yamaha drives. A very large proportion of them
> seemed to fail after slightly more than a year, especially if fitted
> internally in a RiscPC as they got *very* hot. That's the main reason I
> never supplied Yamaha drives even though they were the cheapest and so
> would have given me a bigger profit margin.
I'm glad I bought mine from you!
Thanks a lot. It always works!
Alan Griffin
Mr John FO Evans
> I don't. Like Liz I bought a complete package and have had very little
> success.
Absolutely no problems with my Ricoh CD burner and CDBurn. Works every time!
John
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Richard Porter
decided to write:
> In article <4ece29...@spamnet.co.uk>, jl <j...@spamnet.co.uk> wrote:
>> I don't. Like Liz I bought a complete package and have had very little
>> success.
> Absolutely no problems with my Ricoh CD burner and CDBurn. Works every time!
I got a Ricoh and CDBurn with my RPC from Castle and it's been pretty
good up to now. It is sometimes a bit reluctant to open, but "Eject"
from the menu always does the job.
--
Richard Porter
Mail to username ricp at domain minijem.plus.com
"You can't have Windows without pains."
John Williams (News)
Richard Porter <dontu...@address.uk.invalid> wrote:
> I got a Ricoh and CDBurn with my RPC from Castle and it's been pretty
> good up to now.
In summary, there are a very few people who have had problems, and a very
much larger group who have had virtually none!
If they all posted here, this thread would continue with me-toos for a long
while. My CDBurn registration is 1708, if that's any indication, whereas my
CDVDBurn is 9 - I got in early there! And that's great too, and I use it
now for both CDs and DVDs.
John
--
John Williams, Wirral, Merseyside, UK - no attachments to these addresses!
Non-RISC OS posters change user to johnrwilliams or put 'risc' in subject
for reliable contact! Who is John Williams? http://www.picindex.info/author/
Jess Hampshire
"John Williams (News)" <UCE...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <cada3bc...@user.minijem.plus.com>,
> Richard Porter <dontu...@address.uk.invalid> wrote:
>
>> I got a Ricoh and CDBurn with my RPC from Castle and it's been pretty
>> good up to now.
>
> In summary, there are a very few people who have had problems, and a very
> much larger group who have had virtually none!
>
> If they all posted here, this thread would continue with me-toos for a long
> while. My CDBurn registration is 1708, if that's any indication, whereas my
> CDVDBurn is 9 - I got in early there! And that's great too, and I use it
> now for both CDs and DVDs.
>
here's my me too.
I've used CDBurn for years. Initially I used it because PC writers
were far too unreliable under windows. (Before burnproof and UDMA).
I had one bad failure with it, but that was when my hard drive died.
Otherwise, it just seems to work.
--
Jess
http://jess.itworkshop-nexus.net
Martin Hodgson
Ray Dawson <r...@magray.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> "Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <gemini.jfz3us0...@magray.freeserve.co.uk>,
> > Ray Dawson <r...@magray.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> > > jl <j...@spamnet.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > > In article <4ecddab...@davenoise.co.uk>,
> > > > Dave Plowman (News) <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > > In article <1b19aecd...@liz13.uklinux.net>,
> > > > > Liz Leyden <l...@liz13.uklinux.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > I bought my drive from CJE I am not an expert at such things
> > > > > > > but it works every time without fail. Donald
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Likewise, except that mine doesn't.
> > > >
> > > > > I find it hard to believe CJE would have sold you an unsuitable CD
> > > > > writer.
> > > >
> > > > I don't. Like Liz I bought a complete package and have had very
> > > > little success.
> >
> > > Or me. I bought a complete package of CD burner and software from the
> > > Acorn company in Cambridge, whose name I can't remember, and never
> > > managed to burn one CD with it. I bought CDBurn to see if that would
[Snip]
Just in the interests of balance in this discussion :
I bought this Iyonix with CD burner and CD Burn Light from CTL - it just
worked
I upgraded to CD Burn full (direct from Steffan) - it just worked.
I upgraded to CDVD Burn (from Steffan), and the DVD burner he suggested
(from Dabs - CJE hadn't got their act together just then) - it just works.
I put the old CD burner into the RPC SA, and temporarily copied CD Burn
onto that - guess what, it just worked.
I have used a variety of Cds and DVDs from Maplins, PC World, Tesco, Dabs,
and even CJE and they all worked. (OK, there were the *black* CDs from PC
World several years ago - they burnt OK, but faded over the next three
years).
Oh, and I have used Roxio Easy Media Creator with a variety of CD and DVD
burners on the Wintel PC - thay all work.
Once you find your way around CD Burn / CDVD Burn / Roxio, follow the
instructions, and do work out which way up to insert the discs, I find it
all very reliable.
Having said that, I shall refrain from burning anything for the next six
months - I have three machines here just waiting to collectively give me a
kick up my smug backside. ;-)
Martin Hodgson
Graham Thurlwell
wrote:
> In article <cada3bc...@user.minijem.plus.com>,
> Richard Porter <dontu...@address.uk.invalid> wrote:
>
>> I got a Ricoh and CDBurn with my RPC from Castle and it's been pretty
>> good up to now.
>
> In summary, there are a very few people who have had problems, and a very
> much larger group who have had virtually none!
>
> If they all posted here, this thread would continue with me-toos for a long
> while. My CDBurn registration is 1708, if that's any indication, whereas my
> CDVDBurn is 9 - I got in early there! And that's great too, and I use it
> now for both CDs and DVDs.
I got the full version of CDBurn and a CD burner bundled with the
Omega and it's been bombproof. Upgraded to CDVDBurn at Wakefield
(number 5, HAH! ;-)) although we /still/ haven't got round to getting
a DVD burner yet.
--
Graham Thurlwell
Jades' First Encounters Site
http://www.jades.org/ffe.htm
Bryan Hogan
Graham Thurlwell <nos...@jades.org> wrote:
> I got the full version of CDBurn and a CD burner bundled with the
> Omega and it's been bombproof. Upgraded to CDVDBurn at Wakefield
> (number 5, HAH! ;-)) although we /still/ haven't got round to getting
> a DVD burner yet.
Be careful with getting a DVD writer for an Omega, they seem quite
picky about which ones work. I now use a Sony DRU-700A which works
fine for reading and writing CDs and DVDs, but all of the following
drives had problems:
LiteOn 1673
NEC 3540
Panasonic SW-9585
NEC-2500A
Not a problem with CDVDBurn, as on most of those it was possible to
write DVDs but they couldn't be read back on the Omega, although they
would read OK on other machines!
Bryan.
Dave Plowman (News)
Bryan Hogan <ne...@no.spam.here> wrote:
> Be careful with getting a DVD writer for an Omega, they seem quite
> picky about which ones work.
So after all these years the same problems with the latest machines?
--
*The severity of the itch is proportional to the reach *
Liz Leyden
"Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <a74169ce...@liz13.uklinux.net>,
> Liz Leyden <l...@liz13.uklinux.net> wrote:
>> In message <4ecddab...@davenoise.co.uk>
>> "Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> > In article <1b19aecd...@liz13.uklinux.net>,
>> > Liz Leyden <l...@liz13.uklinux.net> wrote:
>> >> > I bought my drive from CJE I am not an expert at such things but it
>> >> > works every time without fail.
>> >> > Donald
>> >> >
>> >> Likewise, except that mine doesn't.
>> >
>> > I find it hard to believe CJE would have sold you an unsuitable CD
>> > writer.
>> >
>> They said as much on this group: something to the effect that I
>> couldn't expect Steffen to have tested it on every new writer which
>> came out.
>
> But Steffen doesn't own CJE or sell CD hardware?
>
> I'd expect a RISC OS dealer only to sell suitable CD hardware - given the
> problems with incompatible drives have been around since day one even with
> plain CDFS. And if he didn't to refund your money as with any other faulty
> product. Or perhaps I'm missing something?
>
My burner is a Liteonit, but apparently they changed the model quite
quickly after the version of CDBurn was written, so my version of
CDBurn doesn't work with my Liteonit burner. That was the explanation
given by CJE. However, as explained, so many people were telling me
that it would work fine and giving me help and suggestions before I
knew this, that I was assuming it was my fault, so it was after the 12
month guarantee period that I found out the model incompatibility
issue. I was furious, I can tell you! Like Dave, I'd naively assumed
that buying from a RISC OS dealer, and getting them to fit it (while
fitting other upgrades as well) would guarantee success.
We live and learn! I'd far rather they'd said, "Sorry, we don't have a
CDBurner, which works with the software, in stock." - I already had a
functioning CDReader, which is all I've got now, at extra expense.
I have no problems with burning CDs on my desktop or laptop Win/pcs
and it is much, *much* easier anyway - drag files into a window, press
a button, bingo! I know, I know - reading (on this thread) the palava
that some people have had to go through to manage to burn CDs reminds
me that RO users don't like their computing to be easy.
It's no longer a functional issue: I now do anything I want backed up
on the Win/pcs.
Jess Hampshire
Liz Leyden <l...@liz13.uklinux.net> wrote:
[snip]
> My burner is a Liteonit, but apparently they changed the model quite
> quickly after the version of CDBurn was written, so my version of
> CDBurn doesn't work with my Liteonit burner. That was the explanation
> given by CJE. However, as explained, so many people were telling me
> that it would work fine and giving me help and suggestions before I
> knew this, that I was assuming it was my fault, so it was after the 12
> month guarantee period that I found out the model incompatibility
> issue. I was furious, I can tell you! Like Dave, I'd naively assumed
> that buying from a RISC OS dealer, and getting them to fit it (while
> fitting other upgrades as well) would guarantee success.
It would if you didn't wait for the guarantee to expire
> We live and learn! I'd far rather they'd said, "Sorry, we don't have a
> CDBurner, which works with the software, in stock." - I already had a
> functioning CDReader, which is all I've got now, at extra expense.
They probably didn't know at the time.
> I have no problems with burning CDs on my desktop or laptop Win/pcs
> and it is much, *much* easier anyway - drag files into a window, press
> a button, bingo! I know, I know - reading (on this thread) the palava
> that some people have had to go through to manage to burn CDs reminds
> me that RO users don't like their computing to be easy.
I use RISC OS *because* it is easy. CDburn is nicer to use than
anything I've seen on a PC.
Drag files to iso filer. Generate iso. Burn ISO. done. Even works fine
(though first two step are slow) on a Mico.
> It's no longer a functional issue: I now do anything I want backed up
> on the Win/pcs.
you could always see if swapping drives between the windows machine
and the risc os one would solve it.
You can also transfer ISOs to the PC to burn there, this will
preserver risc os filetypes.
--
Jess
http://jess.itworkshop-nexus.net
Dave Plowman (News)
Liz Leyden <l...@liz13.uklinux.net> wrote:
> My burner is a Liteonit, but apparently they changed the model quite
> quickly after the version of CDBurn was written, so my version of
> CDBurn doesn't work with my Liteonit burner. That was the explanation
> given by CJE. However, as explained, so many people were telling me
> that it would work fine and giving me help and suggestions before I
> knew this, that I was assuming it was my fault, so it was after the 12
> month guarantee period that I found out the model incompatibility
> issue. I was furious, I can tell you! Like Dave, I'd naively assumed
> that buying from a RISC OS dealer, and getting them to fit it (while
> fitting other upgrades as well) would guarantee success.
> We live and learn! I'd far rather they'd said, "Sorry, we don't have a
> CDBurner, which works with the software, in stock." - I already had a
> functioning CDReader, which is all I've got now, at extra expense.
Did you actually get the brush off from CJE because it was more than one
year? If it had never worked and they supplied and installed it I'd have
been inclined to take it further regardless of time - when you discovered
the true cause if indeed it is this.
--
*Isn't it a bit unnerving that doctors call what they do "practice?"
Steve Fryatt
<4d72bed0...@liz13.uklinux.net>:
> My burner is a Liteonit, but apparently they changed the model quite
> quickly after the version of CDBurn was written, so my version of
> CDBurn doesn't work with my Liteonit burner. That was the explanation
> given by CJE. However, as explained, so many people were telling me
> that it would work fine and giving me help and suggestions before I
> knew this, that I was assuming it was my fault, so it was after the 12
> month guarantee period that I found out the model incompatibility
> issue. I was furious, I can tell you! Like Dave, I'd naively assumed
> that buying from a RISC OS dealer, and getting them to fit it (while
> fitting other upgrades as well) would guarantee success.
>
> We live and learn! I'd far rather they'd said, "Sorry, we don't have a
> CDBurner, which works with the software, in stock." - I already had a
> functioning CDReader, which is all I've got now, at extra expense.
Let's get this absolutely clear: you were in touch with CJE about the
problem for a year, without result, then when it finally came to light
that the drive was incompatible with the RISC OS system, they refused to
refund/replace despite having sold it to you as a working bundle?
Is that correct? If it is, you've had a different experience of the
company from many other people: generally customers pay over the odds to
buy kit from CJE precisely because of the way in which potential hardware
incompatibilities are dealt with.
--
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England
jl
Jess Hampshire <phant...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I use RISC OS *because* it is easy. CDburn is nicer to use than
> anything I've seen on a PC.
This I find hard to understand. !CDBurn seems to do the job for most
people but from my use of it I find it hard to understand and difficult to
use first time. The help file is fairly impenetrable as well. The most
helpful thing so far have been various answers to this thread. This
dumping the burner supplied and using a burner from an old discarded PC
and burning at 8 times speed with ISO level 2 I have actually managed to
produce a CD that worked.
I find the learning curve very steep though - and I have been using Nero
for several years now!
Jochen
--
------------------------------------
Limavady and the Roe Valley
http://www.jochenlueg.freeuk.com
Bryan Hogan
"Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <eb8c96d0...@helpful.demon.co.uk>,
> Bryan Hogan <ne...@no.spam.here> wrote:
>> Be careful with getting a DVD writer for an Omega, they seem quite
>> picky about which ones work.
>
> So after all these years the same problems with the latest machines?
Omega? Latest machine? Where have you been???
Bryan Hogan
> In article <eb8c96d0...@helpful.demon.co.uk>,
> Bryan Hogan <ne...@no.spam.here> wrote:
>> Be careful with getting a DVD writer for an Omega, they seem quite
>> picky about which ones work.
>
> So after all these years the same problems with the latest machines?
It should be pointed out that all those drives would read/write CDs
fine, it was only DVDs they had trouble with.
They also worked fine, including DVD reading and writing, in a RiscPC.
It was just in the, lets face it rather unusual, Omega that there were
problems.
This does leave us none the wiser as to why Liz had so much trouble
:-(
Bryan.
Jess Hampshire
jl <j...@spamnet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <77fcd5d...@itworkshop.invalid>,
> Jess Hampshire <phant...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> I use RISC OS *because* it is easy. CDburn is nicer to use than
>> anything I've seen on a PC.
>
> This I find hard to understand. !CDBurn seems to do the job for most
> people but from my use of it I find it hard to understand and difficult to
> use first time. The help file is fairly impenetrable as well. The most
> helpful thing so far have been various answers to this thread. This
> dumping the burner supplied and using a burner from an old discarded PC
> and burning at 8 times speed with ISO level 2 I have actually managed to
> produce a CD that worked.
>
> I find the learning curve very steep though - and I have been using Nero
> for several years now!
I am surprised. It functions very much in a RISC OS style.
Create the compilation in the same way you would copy files to a
folder.
Tell it to generate an ISO image.
Tell it to burn the Image to a CD.
--
Jess
http://jess.itworkshop-nexus.net
Liz Leyden
Steve Fryatt <ne...@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
> Let's get this absolutely clear: you were in touch with CJE about the
> problem for a year, without result, then when it finally came to light
> that the drive was incompatible with the RISC OS system, they refused to
> refund/replace despite having sold it to you as a working bundle?
That's not what I said.
I bought it from them and they installed it.
Because of that, I'd assumed it would work.
So when it didn't, I assumed it was my fault, especially since the
instructions were pretty opaque.
After a while, I posted in the groups, and a few people emailled me
and I tried various things they suggested, with no success.
I gave up for a while, decided it was too techie for me, and was
delighted that burning CDs on the win/pc, which I got a couple of
weeks after the RPC upgrade (originally just for Photoshop and easier
compatibility for work) was so incredibly easy. So gradually I moved
more and more of my computing to the win/pc, especially if it was work
I'd want to back up on CDs.
When someone else posted about a year ago with similar problems, I
posted here and the thread went to well over 100 posts with
suggestions/Me2s/NotMes. After I'd tried everything without success,
Chris posted about the problem in the updated liteonit driver not
being compatible with the software. That obviously was the end of it.
However, this was about three years after I'd bought it, I think, so
well out of its guarantee period.
>
> Is that correct? If it is, you've had a different experience of the
> company from many other people: generally customers pay over the odds to
> buy kit from CJE precisely because of the way in which potential hardware
> incompatibilities are dealt with.
That was as I understood it.
However, the above is my experience, and as I said, it hastened my
move of other-than-Photoshopping tasks to Windows, and it's no longer
a 'burning' issue (sorry!) - totally irrelevant to me now. I wouldn't
have any use for it even if it worked.
It also seems that other people have had problems with the software.
Liz Leyden
Bryan Hogan <br...@no.spam.here> wrote:
> This does leave us none the wiser as to why Liz had so much trouble
>:-(
I'm wise (after the event)
The software didn't work with the specific driver I bought.
Dead simple. If only I'd known at the time, saved a lot of my, and
many other people's, time trying to solve the unsolvable.
Ray Dawson
> In message <bc031ed1...@helpful.demon.co.uk>
> Bryan Hogan <br...@no.spam.here> wrote:
>
>
> > This does leave us none the wiser as to why Liz had so much trouble
> >:-(
> I'm wise (after the event)
> The software didn't work with the specific driver I bought.
> Dead simple. If only I'd known at the time, saved a lot of my, and
> many other people's, time trying to solve the unsolvable.
My problem was with Eesox. I bought a SCSI CD writer from them, which came
with their own software (CDScribe?), but it never worked as it always hung
during write. Eesox blamed my computer saying that a 2 slice got too hot,
so I moved it out of the case on a scsi cable. Still hung during write.
They promised a software upgrade but, as I had been waiting for an upgrade
to their art tablet software for over a year, I wasn't holding my breath.
So, I bought CDBurn - but that wouldn't work properly either. I think I
managed to burn a few data discs, but never managed to burn an audio one.
By this time the cowboy outfit had stopped doing RISC OS stuff and never
answereed the 'phone, so I never managed to get my money back. It did,
however, work well attached to my Akai digital recording workstation, so
it wasn't totally wasted money.
Cheers,
Ray D
Chris Evans
I am sorry Liz if we let you down, though I can‘t remember this particular
problem, AFAIK ALL‘ lite on CDRW IDE drives have been CD Burn compatible!
We don‘t test every drive going out the door so an individual drive could be
faulty, we used to normally test a least one of each model, but with (I
thought) 100% success rate and models changing frequently we haven‘t always
tested every model.
We have had some customers who have had problems, some of whom have
brought/sent their computers into us. IIRC all have worked o.k. for us.
I think we have had only one known hardware failure of a LiteON drives in
about 4 or 5 years.
Steffen is the first to admit that documentation is not his forte, and you
may have seen my other posting in this thread explaining that if you follow
the instruction literally it will never work as it says to do a simulate‘
and doesn‘t then say if a simulate is successful redo with simulate off!
It sounds like it it doesn't apply to you but Quite often we respond to a
problem a customer tells us of, with a suggestion and don't hear back if the
suggestion fixed the problem or not for months or even years, by which time
the warranty may have run out. Most of our suppliers will not take back
anything over a year old so we have to rule out a faulty item within that
period. Incompatibilities is of course another matter!
I seems that we never now know the cause of your problem, I am very sorry we
weren't able to resolve it at the time.
> However, this was about three years after I'd bought it, I think, so
> well out of its guarantee period.
> >
> > Is that correct? If it is, you've had a different experience of the
> > company from many other people: generally customers pay over the odds to
> > buy kit from CJE precisely because of the way in which potential hardware
> > incompatibilities are dealt with.
> That was as I understood it.
> However, the above is my experience, and as I said, it hastened my
> move of other-than-Photoshopping tasks to Windows, and it's no longer
> a 'burning' issue (sorry!) - totally irrelevant to me now. I wouldn't
> have any use for it even if it worked.
> It also seems that other people have had problems with the software.
Chris Evans
--
CJE Micro's / 4D 'RISC OS Specialists'
Telephone: 01903 523222 Fax: 01903 523679
ch...@cjemicros.co.uk http://www.cjemicros.co.uk/
78 Brighton Road, Worthing, West Sussex, BN11 2EN
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John Williams (News)
Chris Evans <ch...@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote, quoting Liz:
> It also seems that other people have had problems with the software.
But as I pointed out in Message-ID: <4ecf41df...@tiscali.co.uk> they
are few, and it was not necessarily uniquely the software, but a hardware
incompatibility. Unfortunate, but rare.
Now that Jochen has tried a different drive (Message-ID:
<4ed0e5...@spamnet.co.uk>), one less!
In article <eb8c96d0...@helpful.demon.co.uk>,
Bryan Hogan <ne...@no.spam.here> wrote:
> Not a problem with CDVDBurn, as on most of those it was possible to
> write DVDs but they couldn't be read back on the Omega, although they
> would read OK on other machines!
For completeness, I was mistakenly supplied with a LiteOn SHW-1635S, which
does everything fine /except/ blank RWs. So if anyone is compiling a list,
add that one as a 'not'.
Unfortunately the supplier failed to respond to my e-mails. However, I am
entirely happy with CDBurn and CDVDBurn, and any minor problems have been
my fault.
Liz - you've had your apology from CJE. We've had your full story a couple
of times. Could we move to more positive matters.
Ray Dawson
>
> Liz - you've had your apology from CJE. We've had your full story a
> couple of times. Could we move to more positive matters.
Her money back?
Cheers,
Ray D
David Holden
On 10-Apr-2007, Chris Evans <ch...@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote:
> I am sorry Liz if we let you down, though I can‘t remember this particular
> problem, AFAIK ALL‘ lite on CDRW IDE drives have been CD Burn compatible!
Like most generalities it's mainly true but most certainly not always. I
have twice had batches of LiteOn drives that didn't work.
--
David Holden - APDL - <http://www.apdl.co.uk>
Tim Powys-Lybbe
After three years?
It needs to be established that the kit was never fit for its purpose.
But the cause could be anything from operator error to some other faulty
component in either of which cases there is no reason for CJE to return
any money.
Further it could even be the case that the kit in fact was functioning
OK withing the guarantee period (or so - I have known firms extend that
period a tad) but failed after that period expired. Which of us have
not had that sort of thing happen over our long lives?
Perhaps CJE could look into the matter but, after three years, I wonder
if they should do this free of charge? Of course if they do find the
kit was never fit for its purpose, they should indeed refund the money
and make no charge for the investigation.
What is the next fair step?
--
Tim Powys-Lybbe t...@powys.org
For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/
jl
Tim Powys-Lybbe <t...@powys.org> wrote:
> In message of 10 Apr, Ray Dawson <r...@magray.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> > "John Williams (News)" <UCE...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Liz - you've had your apology from CJE. We've had your full story a
> > > couple of times. Could we move to more positive matters.
> >
> > Her money back?
> After three years?
> It needs to be established that the kit was never fit for its purpose.
If It was my business I would give public relations the priority.
aw2...@gmail.com
Do you mind advising what is the best format for a CD-R/W to make it
readable on a PC? What options do you normally use? I should be able
to test out different ones now I have W98 running on the same RiscPC
but when I recorded a set of files before they didn't show up on a
Windows XP (I think) machine.
Andrew
Steve Fryatt
<4ed0bab...@davenoise.co.uk>:
> In article <eb8c96d0...@helpful.demon.co.uk>,
> Bryan Hogan <ne...@no.spam.here> wrote:
>
> > Be careful with getting a DVD writer for an Omega, they seem quite
> > picky about which ones work.
>
> So after all these years the same problems with the latest machines?
Uh? Omega? Latest machines?
Chris Hughes
"John Williams (News)" <UCE...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <ant10135...@client.cjemicros.co.uk>,
> Chris Evans <ch...@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote, quoting Liz:
>
>> It also seems that other people have had problems with the software.
>
> But as I pointed out in Message-ID: <4ecf41df...@tiscali.co.uk> they
> are few, and it was not necessarily uniquely the software, but a hardware
> incompatibility. Unfortunate, but rare.
Not as rare as you think. I also am now on the third writer, first one
was SCSI (yamaha) lasted three writes (yes it was most likely hardware
rather then software), Second one turned out to be faulty. Third one
from another supplier not CJE, works fine as a reader and I even
managed to get it to write once (SONY drive) but have had no success
thereafter, the drive works fine in a PC.
So could be hardware or software and since both and all connecting
bits were from the same supplier, difficult to prove.
I now use the PC, quicker and easier sadly.
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