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David R Lane

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Mar 2, 2009, 7:36:49 AM3/2/09
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Hi comrades in ARMs,

Where can one get WMF->Draw?

I have looked at a few software archives, but not found it.

Dave Lane

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David R Lane

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Mar 2, 2009, 3:24:13 PM3/2/09
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In message <1bcab735...@lakeview.demon.co.uk>

David R Lane <D_L...@Lakeview.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi comrades in ARMs,
>
> Where can one get WMF->Draw?
>
> I have looked at a few software archives, but not found it.
>
> Dave Lane

Replying to responses to the above, thanks to Derek Barnett, Dave
Symes and Chris Ward for emailling me WMF->Draw. I won't at this
stage be making any donation to Heatherley Cheshire Home (see help
file) as it hasn't worked on any of the 3 WMF files I have given
it. :-<

One produced an empty Draw File and the other 2 produced the error
message "unknown function 6c".

John

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Mar 2, 2009, 5:33:20 PM3/2/09
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In article <aa94e235...@lakeview.demon.co.uk>, David
R Lane <D_L...@Lakeview.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Replying to responses to the above, thanks to Derek
> Barnett, Dave Symes and Chris Ward for emailling me
> WMF->Draw. I won't at this stage be making any donation
> to Heatherley Cheshire Home (see help file) as it hasn't
> worked on any of the 3 WMF files I have given it. :-<

> One produced an empty Draw File and the other 2 produced
> the error message "unknown function 6c".

If you have ImageFS, it might just do the trick. It
certainly works here on the original Task Force CD. I can't
remember whether or not it was part of the software which
came with the Iyonix.

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Gillian Bobbett

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Mar 2, 2009, 6:16:37 PM3/2/09
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In article <5035ee66...@blueyonder.co.uk>,

John <new...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> It certainly works here on the original Task Force CD.

Yes, I use WMF->Draw to convert images on the original Task Force CD,
which works well. The only thing is having got a Draw file I then have to
group all the files before doing anything else (with ctrlA and ctrlG).

Thank you, John, for supplying the canadian web-site for the newer Task
Force CD.

Gillian

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David Holden

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Mar 3, 2009, 2:14:45 AM3/3/09
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On 2-Mar-2009, David R Lane <D_L...@Lakeview.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Where can one get WMF->Draw?
>
> I have looked at a few software archives, but not found it.

A much better converter was the one supplied with RISC World Vol. 5 Issue 3.
This was specifically designed for converting directories full of WMF files
to Drawfiles. On the '75,000 Clip Art CD of WMF files it failed on only
about half a dozen.

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Nieuwslezer

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Mar 3, 2009, 2:51:54 AM3/3/09
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"David Holden" <Spa...@apdl.co.uk> wrote:

>
> On 2-Mar-2009, David R Lane <D_L...@Lakeview.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Where can one get WMF->Draw?
> >
> > I have looked at a few software archives, but not found it.
>
> A much better converter was the one supplied with RISC World Vol. 5 Issue
3.
> This was specifically designed for converting directories full of WMF
files
> to Drawfiles. On the '75,000 Clip Art CD of WMF files it failed on only
> about half a dozen.
>

How about an URL where to get this?
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David Holden

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Mar 4, 2009, 2:46:42 PM3/4/09
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On 3-Mar-2009, Nieuwslezer <ro...@nietgeldig.nl> wrote:

> > A much better converter was the one supplied with RISC World Vol. 5
> > Issue 3. This was specifically designed for converting directories full
> > of WMF files to Drawfiles. On the '75,000 Clip Art CD of WMF files it
> > failed on only about half a dozen.
> >
> How about an URL where to get this?

I didn't want to make it too easy. The clue is in the magazine name. Try the
RISC World web site, <http:///www.riscworld.co.uk> in case that's still too
cryptic :-)

Tim Hill

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Mar 5, 2009, 4:36:11 AM3/5/09
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In article <718454F...@mid.individual.net>, David Holden
<Spa...@apdl.co.uk> wrote:

It is. Try:

<http://www.riscworld.co.uk>

Another version of WMF2Draw exists within !EasiWrite and I seem to recall
having more success with it than the original WMF2Draw, thanks no doubt
to David Pilling's modifications and enhancements.

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Rob Kendrick

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Mar 5, 2009, 5:48:22 AM3/5/09
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On Wed, 4 Mar 2009 19:46:42 GMT
"David Holden" <Spa...@apdl.co.uk> wrote:

> > How about an URL where to get this?
>
> I didn't want to make it too easy. The clue is in the magazine name.
> Try the RISC World web site, <http:///www.riscworld.co.uk> in case
> that's still too cryptic :-)

I think the OP is wondering if it's available separately from a
back issue of a dreadful publication. But I think you knew that
already.

B.

Nieuwslezer

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Mar 5, 2009, 7:50:13 AM3/5/09
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Rob Kendrick <nn...@rjek.com> wrote:

Exactly.

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David Holden

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Mar 5, 2009, 10:05:15 AM3/5/09
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On 5-Mar-2009, Nieuwslezer <ro...@nietgeldig.nl> wrote:

> Rob Kendrick <nn...@rjek.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 4 Mar 2009 19:46:42 GMT "David Holden" <Spa...@apdl.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > > How about an URL where to get this?
> > >
> > > I didn't want to make it too easy. The clue is in the magazine name.

> > > Try the RISC World web site, <http://www.riscworld.co.uk> in case


> > that's still too cryptic :-)
> >
> > I think the OP is wondering if it's available separately from a back
> > issue of a dreadful publication. But I think you knew that already.
>

> Exactly.

Well thank you both for those kind comments. You've helped me to make up my
mind. That's it, I'm off. I've already agreed to attend the Wakefield show
but after that......

Chris Hughes

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Mar 5, 2009, 12:04:25 PM3/5/09
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In message <71a81eF...@mid.individual.net>
"David Holden" <Spa...@apdl.co.uk> wrote:

Sadly I am looking at doing the same, I really don't know why some of
us bother any more. I have become very depressed with the whole RISC
OS market.

I now only run the Wakefield Show out a sense of duty on behalf of the
club - its becoming to much stress, etc.. :-(

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Dave Symes

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Mar 5, 2009, 1:42:45 PM3/5/09
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In article <71a81eF...@mid.individual.net>,
David Holden <Spa...@apdl.co.uk> wrote:

David, Don't let the mentally deficient among us get you down, I for one,
among many I'm sure, appreciate all the work you've done and are doing for
the RO community.
I do understand how frustrating it must be, to be continually worn away by
the dickheads, but that happens in many spheres.

If you do move on... Thanks you for your past works, and best wishes for
your future endeavours.

Dave

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John Williams (News)

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Mar 5, 2009, 2:40:43 PM3/5/09
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In article <503764c...@triffid.co.uk>,
Dave Symes <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

> David, Don't let the mentally deficient among us get you down, I for one,
> among many I'm sure, appreciate all the work you've done and are doing for
> the RO community.

We have druck who has assumed that PV did something deliberate - which many
of us haven't dared contemplate without further information - and Rob, who
is being very helpful over PV's funeral arrangements, yet makes
provocatively hurtful comments to DH.

I think these ideas need tying together into a more understanding and
thoughtful approach to interaction with others.

We don't want any more tragedies in the RISC OS community.

Which is why Dave's comment could have been more-measured.

John

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charles

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Mar 5, 2009, 3:49:22 PM3/5/09
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In article <50376a1b...@tiscali.co.uk>, John Williams (News)

<UCE...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <503764c...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes
> <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

> > David, Don't let the mentally deficient among us get you down, I for
> > one, among many I'm sure, appreciate all the work you've done and are
> > doing for the RO community.

> We have druck who has assumed that PV did something deliberate - which
> many of us haven't dared contemplate without further information

yet it was my first thought .....

[Snip]

> We don't want any more tragedies in the RISC OS community.

indeed not.

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Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11

Dave Symes

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Mar 5, 2009, 4:22:05 PM3/5/09
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In article <50376a1b...@tiscali.co.uk>,
John Williams (News) <UCE...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
[Snippy]

> Which is why Dave's comment could have been more-measured.

They were deliberate and measured... If I'd let the grumpmaster out of his
cage, and believe me he was frantically rattling the door, the text would
have been somewhat different.

[Snip other things I wrote]

Dave

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Rob Kendrick

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Mar 5, 2009, 5:14:32 PM3/5/09
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On Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:40:43 +0100

"John Williams (News)" <UCE...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> We have druck who has assumed that PV did something deliberate -
> which many of us haven't dared contemplate without further
> information - and Rob, who is being very helpful over PV's funeral
> arrangements, yet makes provocatively hurtful comments to DH.

Dave, who was being *deliberately* unhelpful in *deliberately*
misunderstanding what the OP asked for.

If all it takes is somebody to say that RiscWorld is dreadful for him
to abandon his business, and not the realisation that the RISC OS
market has next to no money in it, I despair for his future
enterprises. Blaming leaving on such a comment can only be seen as an
easy excuse.

B.

druck

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Mar 5, 2009, 7:37:11 PM3/5/09
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John Williams (News) wrote:
> In article <503764c...@triffid.co.uk>,
> Dave Symes <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> David, Don't let the mentally deficient among us get you down, I for one,
>> among many I'm sure, appreciate all the work you've done and are doing for
>> the RO community.
>
> We have druck who has assumed that PV did something deliberate - which many
> of us haven't dared contemplate without further information - and Rob, who
> is being very helpful over PV's funeral arrangements, yet makes
> provocatively hurtful comments to DH.

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make, but please don't bring
Paul's tragedy in to what appears to be the usual petty internet
squabble. It's highly inappropriate and hurtful to those close to him.

---druck

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Tim Hill

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Mar 6, 2009, 5:03:03 AM3/6/09
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In article <50376a92...@argonet.co.uk>, Stuart
<Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <20090305104...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net>, Rob
> Kendrick <nn...@rjek.com> wrote:

> > I think the OP is wondering if it's available separately from a back
> > issue of a dreadful publication. But I think you knew that already.

> I'd like to see you do better!

Indeed.

All RISC OS publications can't be to everyone's taste; certainly there
are some I read (p.t.) only once and realised they were 'not for me'. Was
it because of their amateurish nature, their preachiness, or were they
just repeating stuff from online or would they not work on my phone? But
just because "I don't like" something I don't expect to become chief
judge and executioner and expect everyone to bow to my opinion.

Rob should know better. But where's his publication? Where's his website?

A cursory glance at the posted URL would have revealed quickly to the OP
where a WMF converter could be downloaded without recourse to any
publication, other than to said publication's web site.

So why take an excuse simply to snipe? Why, oh why, do we have to return
to the playground? Some of us realise it's simply occupied by many
snot-nosed retards who lack social skills but others could be deeply
affected by the childish bullying which is attempted here.

I must admit to giving Rob the benefit of the doubt and assumed it was a
joke, sans ;-)

Perhaps it was and he's sorry he's caused offence.

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Rob Kendrick

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Mar 6, 2009, 5:27:33 AM3/6/09
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On Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:45:48 +0000 (GMT)
Stuart <Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <20090305104...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net>,
> Rob Kendrick <nn...@rjek.com> wrote:
>

> > I think the OP is wondering if it's available separately from a
> > back issue of a dreadful publication. But I think you knew that
> > already.
>

> I'd like to see you do better!

It would be nice if anybody would, to be honest.

B.

Rob Kendrick

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Mar 6, 2009, 5:30:05 AM3/6/09
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On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 10:03:03 +0000 (GMT)
Tim Hill <t...@invalid.org.uk> wrote:

> All RISC OS publications can't be to everyone's taste; certainly there
> are some I read (p.t.) only once and realised they were 'not for me'.
> Was it because of their amateurish nature, their preachiness, or were
> they just repeating stuff from online or would they not work on my
> phone? But just because "I don't like" something I don't expect to
> become chief judge and executioner and expect everyone to bow to my
> opinion.

I don't believe I've executed anybody. I made clear my opinion, which
perhaps slightly more directly than I would have because of Dave's
deliberate misunderstanding in the hope of making a quick buck.

> Rob should know better. But where's his publication? Where's his
> website?

Why should I need one? (Disclaimer: I have contributed to Drobe several
in the past, in many ways.)

B.

Martin Wuerthner

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Mar 6, 2009, 5:36:50 AM3/6/09
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In message <20090305221...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net>
Rob Kendrick <nn...@rjek.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:40:43 +0100
> "John Williams (News)" <UCE...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

>> We have druck who has assumed that PV did something deliberate -
>> which many of us haven't dared contemplate without further
>> information - and Rob, who is being very helpful over PV's funeral
>> arrangements, yet makes provocatively hurtful comments to DH.

> Dave, who was being *deliberately* unhelpful in *deliberately*
> misunderstanding what the OP asked for.

I think the misunderstanding was on your side. Dave's URL (once the
obvious mistake was corrected) does point at a web site from which the
WMF converter can be downloaded. So, Dave was indeed helpful, just not
as clear as he could have been because he did not mention that the
software can be be found in the "Free stuff" section, which was not
obvious at all. I, as probably many others, had taken Dave's cryptic
comment as a subtle hint to go and buy the magazine to get the
converter.

Martin
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VinceH

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Mar 6, 2009, 6:01:35 AM3/6/09
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In article <20090306102...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net>,

Rob Kendrick <nn...@rjek.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:45:48 +0000 (GMT)
> Stuart <Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

[Rob's criticism of RiscWorld]

> > I'd like to see you do better!

> It would be nice if anybody would, to be honest.

It would be nice if the RISC OS market was big enough to make it
worthwhile trying.

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Nieuwslezer

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Mar 7, 2009, 7:02:16 AM3/7/09
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You wrote:

> In message <20090305221...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net>
> Rob Kendrick <nn...@rjek.com> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:40:43 +0100 "John Williams (News)"
> > <UCE...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > We have druck who has assumed that PV did something deliberate - which
> > > many of us haven't dared contemplate without further information - and
> > > Rob, who is being very helpful over PV's funeral arrangements, yet
> > > makes provocatively hurtful comments to DH.
>
> > Dave, who was being *deliberately* unhelpful in *deliberately*
> > misunderstanding what the OP asked for.
>
> I think the misunderstanding was on your side. Dave's URL (once the
> obvious mistake was corrected) does point at a web site from which the WMF
> converter can be downloaded. So, Dave was indeed helpful, just not as
> clear as he could have been because he did not mention that the software
> can be be found in the "Free stuff" section, which was not obvious at all.
> I, as probably many others, had taken Dave's cryptic comment as a subtle
> hint to go and buy the magazine to get the converter.
>
> Martin

So did I, beiing the OP.

Had I known the impact of my short responce to Rob's comment, I probably
would not have made it.

I was convinced that the two middle letters in mr. Holden company name
actually mean Pulic Domain, and expected to find some sort of repository of
that kind.

My bad.

I do apologise to mr. Holden for hurting hid feelings, not intended, not
wanted.

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Alan Griffin

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Mar 7, 2009, 9:11:50 AM3/7/09
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In article <503786b0...@argonet.co.uk>, Stuart
<Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <gopr7h$k6k$1...@news.motzarella.org>, druck
> <ne...@druck.freeuk.com> wrote:

> > I'm not sure what point you are trying to make, but please don't
> > bring Paul's tragedy in to what appears to be the usual petty
> > internet squabble. It's highly inappropriate and hurtful to those
> > close to him.

> So is the suggestion of cause of death you were hinting at in your
> post.

> Speculation is very unhelpful and should be avoided.

It was announced publicly at the S.W. show that Paul had taken his own
life. Indeed I had inferred as much from Louie's plea that Paul was
missing, and that information should be given to the police.

Alan Griffin


Ray Dawson

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Mar 7, 2009, 10:38:40 AM3/7/09
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Alan Griffin <a...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

I would have thought that, until a coroner's court had ruled on the cause
of death, any public announcement would have been speculative and
inappropriate.

Most of us may wonder what the cause of death was but don't need to know -
and would probably never find out unless someone announced it publicly
after the coroner had ruled - which is not something which would help
Louie and the family.

Cheers,

Ray D

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Rob Kendrick

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On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:38:46 +0000 (GMT)
Stuart <Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <50376a1b...@tiscali.co.uk>,


> John Williams (News) <UCE...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> > and Rob, who is being very helpful over PV's funeral arrangements,
> > yet makes provocatively hurtful comments to DH.
>

> Yes, hard to believe it's the same person isn't it.

I don't easily tolerate blatant unhelpfulness to make a quick buck,
sorry, even if that's only what it looked like. I especially have no
time for people who think that keeping on repeating something will make
it true, and others believe them.

B.

Peter Howkins

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Mar 9, 2009, 6:16:54 AM3/9/09
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On Mar 5, 3:05 pm, "David Holden" <Spam...@apdl.co.uk> wrote:
> You've helped me to make up my mind.

Let me wish you the best of luck for whatever you choose to do in the
future.

Peter

Don Gray

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Mar 9, 2009, 7:54:28 AM3/9/09
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Chris Hughes <ne...@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

"David Holden" <Spa...@apdl.co.uk> wrote:

>> Well thank you both for those kind comments. You've helped me to make up my
>> mind. That's it, I'm off.

> Sadly I am looking at doing the same, I really don't know why some of


> us bother any more. I have become very depressed with the whole RISC
> OS market.

I have always just been a footsoldier in the Acorn/RISCOS world,
starting in 1981 with a BBC and still going strong. The early years
were a maelstrom of excitement and camaraderie. Every magazine and
show oozed of a sparkling, self-confident group of people, taking on
the challenges of the PC world with bold imagination.

Leading thinkers, writers and programmers, emerged and struggled to
push forward our group into the future. Many still remain. We all know
their names so it isn't necessary to embarrass them by listing them.
One common factor has been their willingness to continue working for a
loosing cause. They have my heartfelt thanks and gratitude. I do not
possess their skills or abilities so I cannot replace even one of
them. Suffice it to say they have held this community together through
many black days.

We have just lost one such character and his death touched my heart.
May it not yet sound the death knell of this community. Please don't
let sourness and stupidity kill off what is left.

Don Gray

Dr Peter Young

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Mar 9, 2009, 10:36:37 AM3/9/09
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> Chris Hughes <ne...@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

> "David Holden" <Spa...@apdl.co.uk> wrote:

Amen to all of that.

With best wishes,

Peter.

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Dr Alan Leighton

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Mar 9, 2009, 3:40:26 PM3/9/09
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>> Chris Hughes <ne...@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

>> "David Holden" <Spa...@apdl.co.uk> wrote:

And a big amen from me.

Luvs ya

Alan

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Mar 9, 2009, 3:43:16 PM3/9/09
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In message <63c34e3...@scarlet.be>
Don Gray <news...@tiscali.be> wrote:

> Chris Hughes <ne...@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

> "David Holden" <Spa...@apdl.co.uk> wrote:

I've just loaned my RISC PC to a teacher in Newcastle who said there
were no PC that could play their music program which they needed to do
over the week end. His RISC PC had died after many many years,

Alan

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Tim Hill

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Mar 14, 2009, 11:03:28 AM3/14/09
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In article <20090308160...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net>, Rob

That almost sounds like a comment on a religious belief. Perhaps that's
what RISC OS is now. With fundamentalists from each side of the
non-extant fence arguing about who created what and when. Or fiddling
while Rome burns, to put it another way.

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Dave Plowman (News)

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Mar 14, 2009, 2:09:24 PM3/14/09
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In article <2caf793...@ntlworld.com>,

Dr Alan Leighton <alan.le...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> I've just loaned my RISC PC to a teacher in Newcastle who said there
> were no PC that could play their music program which they needed to do
> over the week end. His RISC PC had died after many many years,

Not much goes wrong with them so an economical repair should be possible.

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Harriet Bazley

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Mar 18, 2009, 10:45:03 AM3/18/09
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On 14 Mar 2009 as I do recall,
Tim Hill wrote:

> In article <20090308160...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net>, Rob
> Kendrick <nn...@rjek.com> wrote:

[snip]


> > I especially have no time for people who think that keeping on
> > repeating something will make it true, and others believe them.
>
> That almost sounds like a comment on a religious belief.

Sounds more like Usenet to me....

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Mar 24, 2009, 6:16:47 AM3/24/09
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In article <b4e7003e5...@freeuk.com>, Harriet Bazley

<baz...@feathermail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> On 14 Mar 2009 as I do recall,
> Tim Hill wrote:
>
> > In article <20090308160...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net>, Rob
> > Kendrick <nn...@rjek.com> wrote:
> [snip]
> > > I especially have no time for people who think that keeping on
> > > repeating something will make it true, and others believe them.
> >
> > That almost sounds like a comment on a religious belief.
>
> Sounds more like Usenet to me....
>
Who was it who said "If you repeat a lie often enough some will come to
regard it as the truth"?

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Ben Crick

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Mar 24, 2009, 6:51:21 PM3/24/09
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In article <na.f0ff5b5040....@orpheusmail.co.uk>, William Jackson

<will...@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:
> Who was it who said "If you repeat a lie often enough some will come to
> regard it as the truth"?

Adolph Hitler?

From /Mein Kampf:/
"The broad mass of a nation... will more easily fall victim to a big
lie than to a small one".

"Only constant repetition will finally succeed in imprinting an idea
on the memory of a crowd".

"The greater the lie, the greater the chance that it will be believed".

Ben

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Rob Kendrick

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Mar 25, 2009, 5:38:25 AM3/25/09
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On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:51:21 GMT
Ben Crick <ben....@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <na.f0ff5b5040....@orpheusmail.co.uk>, William
> Jackson <will...@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:
> > Who was it who said "If you repeat a lie often enough some will
> > come to regard it as the truth"?
>
> Adolph Hitler?

This neatly ends this thread. :)

> "The greater the lie, the greater the chance that it will be
> believed".

A nice profundity.

B.

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