RISCOS Ltd Press Release 24/04/2008 - comp.sys.acorn.apps

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Chris Hughes

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From: Chris Hughes <n...@noonehere.co.uk>

Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:54:28 +0100

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Subject: Re: RISCOS Ltd Press Release 24/04/2008

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In message <IsoQj.3325$26....@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net>
Peter Naulls <pe...@chocky.org> wrote:

> Chris Hughes wrote:
>> In message <_znQj.3319$26.1...@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net>
>> Peter Naulls <pe...@chocky.org> wrote:

>>> At this point, I'd just like ROL to make a commitment one way or
>>> another, and quit with the bogus "not enough information" line
>>> or "we're committed to all RISC OS computers" rhetoric.

>> Just got my select renewal letter and in it, it says "...as we hope to
>> make some Select features available to Iyonix users during 2008"

>> Seems something is happening.
> Unless that post-dates recent statements by David Holden and
> Aaron, I rather doubt it. I fear it is more of the same
> rhetoric. Of course, I'd welcome statements from ROL
> to the contrary.

Its dated 21st April 2008

Note they said "some" not all. Whereas I think Aaron was on about a
full Select version (exceluding the obvious hardware driver bits I
assume).

>> As an aside if you have a select subscription it covers up to 10
>> computers. So for my 5 machines its costs 20 ukp for each copy of the
>> OS - a bargain really.

>> [snip]

>>> I don't expect ROL to say anything much about this at Wakefield,
>>> but I hope people might at least press them on such points.

>> As I hope people will also press Iyonix Ltd and RISCOS Open Ltd about
>> when the next full release of RISC OS 5 is coming out !!
> Well, maybe I can answer that in part. A "full release" is likely
> some considerable time away, and probably first depends upon full
> release of the RISC OS 5 sources. At which point I imagine a RiscPC
> version will shortly follow - this should immediately work on RPCEmu,
> and then a full free RISC OS + Emulator + ROM distribution can be made.

Unless it has changed they can't release all the sources, since they
don't own all the rights to all the OS, and need other peoples
permission before they can etc.. Steve Revill himself admitted this
when he visited the club last year, they were working on trying to get
permission from some parties with mixed success if I remember rightly

But best of luck anyway.

Seems to me a very good way to kill the rest of the commercial market
dead. But who cares anymore. :-(

> In addition, users like myself who only have 5.11 will able to be
> able to softload (or perhaps flash) 5.13 or so.

I assuming here you mean non-commercial version supported only by the
programmers and not by Iyonix Ltd? I say this because Jack when he
came to see us late last year said he did not expect another Full OS 5
release to come from them (as commercial quality anyway).

> In the meantime, I expect a variety of piecemeal updates to RISC OS
> 5 - some of that's already happened (cf ROOL forums for Clipboard
> word I referred to) - from external developers.

I am aware of them.

> The big difference here is that although Select has many of the
> more desirable features, it's controlled by a small number of
> people. RO5 at least is potentially open to many more people with
> different ideas about what ought to be done, and immediately
> able to make some of the changes themselves - especially so
> with an emulator release above.

Hopefully I have this wrong, but reading the above implies to me you
would be happy for a number of companies in the RISC OS market to
close since you would remove their market with your "FREE" OS
emulator.

--
Chris Hughes
Don't miss the Wakefield Show - 26th April - www.wakefieldshow.org.uk

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