Alan Griffin <a...@argonet.co.uk> wrote: > In article <503786b0a3Spam...@argonet.co.uk>, Stuart > <Spam...@argonet.co.uk> wrote: > > In article <gopr7h$k6...@news.motzarella.org>, druck > > <n...@druck.freeuk.com> wrote:
> > > I'm not sure what point you are trying to make, but please don't > > > bring Paul's tragedy in to what appears to be the usual petty > > > internet squabble. It's highly inappropriate and hurtful to those > > > close to him.
> > So is the suggestion of cause of death you were hinting at in your > > post.
> > Speculation is very unhelpful and should be avoided.
> It was announced publicly at the S.W. show that Paul had taken his own > life. Indeed I had inferred as much from Louie's plea that Paul was > missing, and that information should be given to the police.
I would have thought that, until a coroner's court had ruled on the cause of death, any public announcement would have been speculative and inappropriate.
Most of us may wonder what the cause of death was but don't need to know - and would probably never find out unless someone announced it publicly after the coroner had ruled - which is not something which would help Louie and the family.
Stuart <Spam...@argonet.co.uk> wrote: > In article <50376a1b55UCE...@tiscali.co.uk>, > John Williams (News) <UCE...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > > and Rob, who is being very helpful over PV's funeral arrangements, > > yet makes provocatively hurtful comments to DH.
> Yes, hard to believe it's the same person isn't it.
I don't easily tolerate blatant unhelpfulness to make a quick buck, sorry, even if that's only what it looked like. I especially have no time for people who think that keeping on repeating something will make it true, and others believe them.
Chris Hughes <n...@noonehere.co.uk> wrote: "David Holden" <Spam...@apdl.co.uk> wrote: >> Well thank you both for those kind comments. You've helped me to make up my >> mind. That's it, I'm off. > Sadly I am looking at doing the same, I really don't know why some of > us bother any more. I have become very depressed with the whole RISC > OS market.
I have always just been a footsoldier in the Acorn/RISCOS world, starting in 1981 with a BBC and still going strong. The early years were a maelstrom of excitement and camaraderie. Every magazine and show oozed of a sparkling, self-confident group of people, taking on the challenges of the PC world with bold imagination.
Leading thinkers, writers and programmers, emerged and struggled to push forward our group into the future. Many still remain. We all know their names so it isn't necessary to embarrass them by listing them. One common factor has been their willingness to continue working for a loosing cause. They have my heartfelt thanks and gratitude. I do not possess their skills or abilities so I cannot replace even one of them. Suffice it to say they have held this community together through many black days.
We have just lost one such character and his death touched my heart. May it not yet sound the death knell of this community. Please don't let sourness and stupidity kill off what is left.
> Chris Hughes <n...@noonehere.co.uk> wrote: > "David Holden" <Spam...@apdl.co.uk> wrote: >>> Well thank you both for those kind comments. You've helped me to make up my >>> mind. That's it, I'm off. >> Sadly I am looking at doing the same, I really don't know why some of >> us bother any more. I have become very depressed with the whole RISC >> OS market. > I have always just been a footsoldier in the Acorn/RISCOS world, > starting in 1981 with a BBC and still going strong. The early years > were a maelstrom of excitement and camaraderie. Every magazine and > show oozed of a sparkling, self-confident group of people, taking on > the challenges of the PC world with bold imagination. > Leading thinkers, writers and programmers, emerged and struggled to > push forward our group into the future. Many still remain. We all know > their names so it isn't necessary to embarrass them by listing them. > One common factor has been their willingness to continue working for a > loosing cause. They have my heartfelt thanks and gratitude. I do not > possess their skills or abilities so I cannot replace even one of > them. Suffice it to say they have held this community together through > many black days. > We have just lost one such character and his death touched my heart. > May it not yet sound the death knell of this community. Please don't > let sourness and stupidity kill off what is left.
> On 9 Mar 2009 Don Gray <newsg...@tiscali.be> wrote: >> Chris Hughes <n...@noonehere.co.uk> wrote: >> "David Holden" <Spam...@apdl.co.uk> wrote: >>>> Well thank you both for those kind comments. You've helped me to make >>>> up my >>>> mind. That's it, I'm off. >>> Sadly I am looking at doing the same, I really don't know why some of >>> us bother any more. I have become very depressed with the whole RISC >>> OS market. >> I have always just been a footsoldier in the Acorn/RISCOS world, >> starting in 1981 with a BBC and still going strong. The early years >> were a maelstrom of excitement and camaraderie. Every magazine and >> show oozed of a sparkling, self-confident group of people, taking on >> the challenges of the PC world with bold imagination. >> Leading thinkers, writers and programmers, emerged and struggled to >> push forward our group into the future. Many still remain. We all know >> their names so it isn't necessary to embarrass them by listing them. >> One common factor has been their willingness to continue working for a >> loosing cause. They have my heartfelt thanks and gratitude. I do not >> possess their skills or abilities so I cannot replace even one of >> them. Suffice it to say they have held this community together through >> many black days. >> We have just lost one such character and his death touched my heart. >> May it not yet sound the death knell of this community. Please don't >> let sourness and stupidity kill off what is left. > Amen to all of that.
> Chris Hughes <n...@noonehere.co.uk> wrote: > "David Holden" <Spam...@apdl.co.uk> wrote: >>> Well thank you both for those kind comments. You've helped me to make up my >>> mind. That's it, I'm off. >> Sadly I am looking at doing the same, I really don't know why some of >> us bother any more. I have become very depressed with the whole RISC >> OS market. > I have always just been a footsoldier in the Acorn/RISCOS world, > starting in 1981 with a BBC and still going strong. The early years > were a maelstrom of excitement and camaraderie. Every magazine and > show oozed of a sparkling, self-confident group of people, taking on > the challenges of the PC world with bold imagination. > Leading thinkers, writers and programmers, emerged and struggled to > push forward our group into the future. Many still remain. We all know > their names so it isn't necessary to embarrass them by listing them. > One common factor has been their willingness to continue working for a > loosing cause. They have my heartfelt thanks and gratitude. I do not > possess their skills or abilities so I cannot replace even one of > them. Suffice it to say they have held this community together through > many black days. > We have just lost one such character and his death touched my heart. > May it not yet sound the death knell of this community. Please don't > let sourness and stupidity kill off what is left.
I've just loaned my RISC PC to a teacher in Newcastle who said there were no PC that could play their music program which they needed to do over the week end. His RISC PC had died after many many years,
In article <20090308160313.36160...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net>, Rob
Kendrick <n...@rjek.com> wrote: > On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:38:46 +0000 (GMT) Stuart <Spam...@argonet.co.uk> > wrote: > > In article <50376a1b55UCE...@tiscali.co.uk>, John Williams (News) > > <UCE...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > > > and Rob, who is being very helpful over PV's funeral arrangements, > > > yet makes provocatively hurtful comments to DH.
> > Yes, hard to believe it's the same person isn't it. > I don't easily tolerate blatant unhelpfulness to make a quick buck, > sorry, even if that's only what it looked like. I especially have no > time for people who think that keeping on repeating something will make > it true, and others believe them.
That almost sounds like a comment on a religious belief. Perhaps that's what RISC OS is now. With fundamentalists from each side of the non-extant fence arguing about who created what and when. Or fiddling while Rome burns, to put it another way.
In article <2caf793950.a...@ntlworld.com>, Dr Alan Leighton <alan.leight...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> I've just loaned my RISC PC to a teacher in Newcastle who said there > were no PC that could play their music program which they needed to do > over the week end. His RISC PC had died after many many years,
Not much goes wrong with them so an economical repair should be possible.
-- *A bicycle can't stand alone because it's two tyred.*
Dave Plowman d...@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound.
> In article <20090308160313.36160...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net>, Rob > Kendrick <n...@rjek.com> wrote: [snip] > > I especially have no time for people who think that keeping on > > repeating something will make it true, and others believe them.
> That almost sounds like a comment on a religious belief.
Sounds more like Usenet to me....
-- Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==
Micro Credo: Never trust a computer bigger than you can lift.
> On 14 Mar 2009 as I do recall, > Tim Hill wrote:
> > In article <20090308160313.36160...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net>, Rob > > Kendrick <n...@rjek.com> wrote: > [snip] > > > I especially have no time for people who think that keeping on > > > repeating something will make it true, and others believe them.
> > That almost sounds like a comment on a religious belief.
> Sounds more like Usenet to me....
Who was it who said "If you repeat a lie often enough some will come to regard it as the truth"?
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In article <na.f0ff5b5040.a90620willi...@orpheusmail.co.uk>, William Jackson
<willi...@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote: > Who was it who said "If you repeat a lie often enough some will come to > regard it as the truth"?
Adolph Hitler?
From /Mein Kampf:/ "The broad mass of a nation... will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one".
"Only constant repetition will finally succeed in imprinting an idea on the memory of a crowd".
"The greater the lie, the greater the chance that it will be believed".
Ben
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Ben Crick <ben.cr...@argonet.co.uk> wrote: > In article <na.f0ff5b5040.a90620willi...@orpheusmail.co.uk>, William > Jackson <willi...@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote: > > Who was it who said "If you repeat a lie often enough some will > > come to regard it as the truth"?
> Adolph Hitler?
This neatly ends this thread. :)
> "The greater the lie, the greater the chance that it will be > believed".
