Is NewsHound not sending UserID & Password?
David
a userID & password to log in to read/write to all newsgroups other
than their local groups.
In the past, with news.individual.net, I've successfully put these two
parameters comma separated after the server name so I would think it
does send userID & password when requested. However, doing similarly
with motzarella
# News server hostname:
news.motzarella.org,[userID],[password]
only returns the less than helpful "Server error : 502 'Permission
denied".
Presumably, either the parameter request is being ignored by NewsHound
because it is in a form unrecognised, or the sending of them by
NewsHound is not as expected by the server.
I know NewsHound is pretty long in the tooth by now. Is it just not up
to doing a modern job or can anyone help me connect to the Motzarella
server?
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Tony Moore
> I've registered with the free news server motzarella.org which
> requires a userID & password to log in to read/write to all newsgroups
> other than their local groups.
>
> In the past, with news.individual.net, I've successfully put these two
> parameters comma separated after the server name so I would think it
> does send userID & password when requested. However, doing similarly
> with motzarella
>
> # News server hostname:
> news.motzarella.org,[userID],[password]
That format is correct, using NewsHound v1.50-32 (21-May-06).
> only returns the less than helpful "Server error : 502 'Permission
> denied".
Check that there are no spaces around the commas, or after the password.
> Presumably, either the parameter request is being ignored by NewsHound
> because it is in a form unrecognised, or the sending of them by
> NewsHound is not as expected by the server.
The format works for me, when accessing news.sunsite.dk
> I know NewsHound is pretty long in the tooth by now. Is it just not up
> to doing a modern job or can anyone help me connect to the Motzarella
> server?
I know nothing of Motzarella [sp?] but you could use free news.aioe.org
(as I do) which needs neither registration nor password.
Tony
Ben Shimmin
[...]
> only returns the less than helpful "Server error : 502 'Permission
> denied".
>
> Presumably, either the parameter request is being ignored by NewsHound
> because it is in a form unrecognised, or the sending of them by
> NewsHound is not as expected by the server.
>
> I know NewsHound is pretty long in the tooth by now. Is it just not up
> to doing a modern job or can anyone help me connect to the Motzarella
> server?
Are you sure your username and password do actually work?
Try connecting like this:
-> telnet news.motzarella.org 119
Trying 85.214.90.236...
Connected to news.motzarella.org.
Escape character is '^]'.
200 news.motzarella.org InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.4.5 ready (posting ok).
-> authinfo username [userID]
381 PASS required
-> authinfo pass [password]
281 Ok
(Type the bits indicated by ->, substituting [userID] for your username
and [password] for your password, obviously without the square brackets.)
If the end result is `281 Ok', or something similar, then you know your
username and password have been accepted and that the fault lies with
Newshound (or its configuration).
b.
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David
> [...]
> Try connecting like this:
Thanks. I got the following:
*telnet news.motzarella.org 119
Trying...
Connected to news.motzarella.org.
Escape character is '^]'.
200 news.motzarella.org InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.4.5 ready
(posting ok).
authinfo username ************
500 bad authinfo param
authinfo pass *********
482 USER required
authinfo user ************
381 PASS required
authinfo pass *********
281 Ok
Apart from it expecting 'user' rather than 'username', both userID and
password are obviously okay; and they are the ones that the
registration email returned to me.
As I wrote before, HewsHound coped with the same sort of parameters
being requested by news.individual.net; news.x-privat.org needed a full
email address as username but, again, I used the same configuration in
NewsHound without bother.
I really don't know what the problem is and was hoping that someone
familiar with the innards of NewsHound might be able to help.
David
> > I've registered with the free news server motzarella.org which
> > requires a userID & password to log in to read/write to all
> > newsgroups other than their local groups.
> >
> > In the past, with news.individual.net, I've successfully put these
> > two parameters comma separated after the server name so I would
> > think it does send userID & password when requested. However, doing
> > similarly with motzarella
> >
> > # News server hostname: news.motzarella.org,[userID],[password]
> That format is correct, using NewsHound v1.50-32 (21-May-06).
v1.42 (2-Dec-00).
> > only returns the less than helpful "Server error : 502 'Permission
> > denied".
> Check that there are no spaces around the commas, or after the
> password.
Nope; all as should be in the Config file.
> > Presumably, either the parameter request is being ignored by
> > NewsHound because it is in a form unrecognised, or the sending of
> > them by NewsHound is not as expected by the server.
> The format works for me, when accessing news.sunsite.dk
> > I know NewsHound is pretty long in the tooth by now. Is it just not
> > up to doing a modern job or can anyone help me connect to the
> > Motzarella server?
> I know nothing of Motzarella [sp?] but you could use free
> news.aioe.org (as I do) which needs neither registration nor password.
I had considered it but some say Motzarella is better than
news.aioe.org.
I only want it as a backup server but I don't like being defeated at
the first hurdle.
Tony Moore
> In article <f8686ae74f.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>, Tony
> Moore <old_c...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > On 1 Oct 2008, David <nos...@nomaps.amnops.invalid> wrote:
>
> > > I've registered with the free news server motzarella.org which
> > > requires a userID & password to log in to read/write to all
> > > newsgroups other than their local groups.
[snip]
> > > # News server hostname: news.motzarella.org,[userID],[password]
>
> > That format is correct, using NewsHound v1.50-32 (21-May-06).
>
> v1.42 (2-Dec-00).
NH v1.50-32 is at http://www.heenan.me.uk/distrib/newshound/newsh150.zip
[snip]
> > I know nothing of Motzarella [sp?] but you could use free
> > news.aioe.org (as I do) which needs neither registration nor
> > password.
>
> I had considered it but some say Motzarella is better than
> news.aioe.org.
Not if you can't get into it! For me, aioe is reliable and fast.
Tony
David
Tony Moore <old_c...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 1 Oct 2008, David <nos...@nomaps.amnops.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > v1.42 (2-Dec-00).
> NH v1.50-32 is at http://www.heenan.me.uk/distrib/newshound/newsh150.zip
Thanks. Got it now.
Unfortunately, it doesn't solve the problem.
Tony Moore
> In article <5b6386e74f.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>,
> Tony Moore <old_c...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > On 1 Oct 2008, David <nos...@nomaps.amnops.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > > v1.42 (2-Dec-00).
>
> > NH v1.50-32 is at
> > http://www.heenan.me.uk/distrib/newshound/newsh150.zip
>
> Thanks. Got it now.
>
> Unfortunately, it doesn't solve the problem.
Out of curiosity, I registered an account with news.motzarella.org but,
when I attempt to fetch, I see the same arror which you reported "Server
error : 502 'Permission denied'"
Using Nettle, I can also connect to the news server, with the same
userid and password, and the groups can be accessed, using the 'group'
command, so it seems that they do exist on the news server.
I have sent a message to motzarella concerning the 502 problem, and I
await their response.
Tony
David
<invali...@invalid-domain.co.uk> wrote:
> In a dim and distant universe
> <4865a6e74f.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>, Tony Moore
> <old_c...@yahoo.co.uk> enlightened us thusly:
> > Out of curiosity, I registered an account with news.motzarella.org
> > but, when I attempt to fetch, I see the same arror which you
> > reported "Server error : 502 'Permission denied'"
> A 502 error means the server is temporarily overloaded due to high
> traffic. I guess there's no solution to this other than to try again
> later when the server is less busy.
> I assume this is a trade-off with using a free service.
I bow to your knowledge on error number meanings but two circumstances
suggest that there could be some underlying problem other than that:
(a) I've tried at different times during the day over several days and
failed each time; and (b) I found out about Motzarella from a thread in
uk.comp.sys.mac where users seemed quite satisfied with the server and
didn't mention any problems caused by overload.
Tony Moore
> David <nos...@nomaps.amnops.invalid> enlightened us thusly:
>
> > I bow to your knowledge on error number meanings but two
> > circumstances suggest that there could be some underlying problem
> > other than that:
>
> error messages from different servers. NNTP servers may issue a
> different one, so I guess the deinitive answer is from the RFC at
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3977
[snip]
> I'd ask the nntp provider for more information....
Which I've done already <4865a6e74f.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>
but as yet no response.
Tony
Chris Hughes
David <nos...@nomaps.amnops.invalid> wrote:
> In article <4fe7d46384i...@invalid-domain.co.uk>, Paul Vigay
> <invali...@invalid-domain.co.uk> wrote:
>> In a dim and distant universe
>> <4865a6e74f.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>, Tony Moore
>> <old_c...@yahoo.co.uk> enlightened us thusly:
>>> Out of curiosity, I registered an account with news.motzarella.org
>>> but, when I attempt to fetch, I see the same arror which you
>>> reported "Server error : 502 'Permission denied'"
>> A 502 error means the server is temporarily overloaded due to high
>> traffic. I guess there's no solution to this other than to try again
>> later when the server is less busy.
>> I assume this is a trade-off with using a free service.
> I bow to your knowledge on error number meanings but two circumstances
> suggest that there could be some underlying problem other than that:
> (a) I've tried at different times during the day over several days and
> failed each time; and (b) I found out about Motzarella from a thread in
> uk.comp.sys.mac where users seemed quite satisfied with the server and
> didn't mention any problems caused by overload.
Have a look at:
http://www.webopedia.com/quick_ref/error.asp
for info on error messages.
--
Chris Hughes
David
Thanks Chris. Saved for future reference.
cfe...@freeremoveuk.com.invalid
David <nos...@nomaps.amnops.invalid> wrote:
> I've registered with thefree news server motzarella.org which requires
> a userID & password to log in to read/write to all newsgroups other
> than their local groups.
>
> In the past, with news.individual.net, I've successfully put these two
> parameters comma separated after the server name so I would think it
> does send userID & password when requested. However, doing similarly
> with motzarella
>
> # News server hostname:
> news.motzarella.org,[userID],[password]
>
> only returns the less than helpful "Server error : 502 'Permission
> denied".
>
Interesting - I had the same thing happen with 'news.x-privat.org' a
year or so ago - it just started giving errors like if the password was
wrong.
Anyone with any ideas - the test given by Ben Shimmin worked ok.
--
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Tony Moore
> On 1 Oct 2008, David <nos...@nomaps.amnops.invalid> wrote:
> > In article <5b6386e74f.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>,
> > Tony Moore <old_c...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > http://www.heenan.me.uk/distrib/newshound/newsh150.zip
> >
> > Thanks. Got it now.
> >
> > Unfortunately, it doesn't solve the problem.
>
> Out of curiosity, I registered an account with news.motzarella.org
> but, when I attempt to fetch, I see the same arror which you reported
> "Server error : 502 'Permission denied'"
>
> Using Nettle, I can also connect to the news server, with the same
> userid and password, and the groups can be accessed, using the 'group'
> command, so it seems that they do exist on the news server.
>
> I have sent a message to motzarella concerning the 502 problem, and I
> await their response.
There has been no response to the bug report, which I sent via the
feedback form at
http://news.motzarella.org/index.php?showpage=feedback&language=en , nor
to a subsequent personal email, sent to the address given at
http://news.motzarella.org/index.php?showpage=contact&language=en
The 502 problem persists, and it seems that someone at motzarella is
asleep, or doesn't care.
Tony
David
Reading motzarella.newusers it seems as though quite a few newly
registered users have problems getting newsgroups other than the local
groups. Someone going by the name of "Ray Banana", and who appears to
have some connection to the server, posts on this group and tries to
help if he knows the news client. However, this help seems to consist
only of advice on how to correctly configure the client with username
and password.
I nearly posted here a week last Thursday evening when, surprise,
surprise, I actually managed two fetches of my usual newsgroups from
motzarella. It being quite late, I decided to wait till morning by
which time the old problem was back. I've been quite busy since so
haven't posted about it until now, although I have tried unsuccessfully
to log on to the server from time to time.
I must assume from those two successful fetches that my NewsHound
configuration is correct and the problem is due to some communication
or timing failure between NH and the server. It can't be that the
server is too busy throughout the entire day, every day, except the 2nd
Thursday of the month.
Richard Torrens (News)
Tony Moore <old_c...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> There has been no response to the bug report, which I sent via the
> feedback form at
> http://news.motzarella.org/index.php?showpage=feedback&language=en , nor
> to a subsequent personal email, sent to the address given at
> http://news.motzarella.org/index.php?showpage=contact&language=en
> The 502 problem persists, and it seems that someone at motzarella is
> asleep, or doesn't care.
In Newshound's !Run file are the lines
| Enable this to set full debugging level
| syslog NewsHound 255
In !Newshound.Docs there is a file describing logging levels. You may
find the extra logging shows you the problem.
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http://www.Torrens.org.uk for genealogy, natural history, wild food, walks, cats
and more!
Tony Moore
wrote:
> In article <96999eef4f.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>,
> Tony Moore <old_c...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
[snip]
> > The 502 problem persists, and it seems that someone at motzarella is
> > asleep, or doesn't care.
>
> In Newshound's !Run file are the lines
> | Enable this to set full debugging level
> | syslog NewsHound 255
>
> In !Newshound.Docs there is a file describing logging levels. You may
> find the extra logging shows you the problem.
The following section of the log shows attempts to fetch from csa*:
Server host name is : (news.motzarella.org)
Newgroup time '081019 201850'
Resolving
Connecting to server news.motzarella.org (85.214.105.209)
Connection in progress
connect: socket is ready for reading, or error returned by select()
connect: socket has error : 0
Connection established
<<< 200 news.eternal-september.org InterNetNews NNRP server
INN 2.4.5 ready (posting ok). [on one line]
Connection to server established.
>>> DATE
<<< 111 20081019202332
Date: 081019 202332
No (more) articles to be posted
>>> NEWGROUPS 081019 201850
<<< 231 New newsgroups follow.
Updating group file
>>> GROUP comp.sys.acorn.advocacy
<<< 502 Permission denied
Warning : Server error : 502 'Permission denied'
Updating group file
[snip similar entries for six other groups]
NNTP_CLOSE start(multservers=0)
>>> QUIT
Ids saved ok
NNTP_CLOSE finished.
Ids saved ok
Terminating
>>> QUIT
In spite of 'socket has error', a connection is established. I don't see
why 'Permission denied', but maybe someone else will know better.
Tony
Frank de Bruijn
Tony Moore <old_c...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >>> NEWGROUPS 081019 201850
> <<< 231 New newsgroups follow.
> Updating group file
This is what I get when connecting to my ISP's newsserver (actual
username and password removed):
>>> NEWGROUPS 081008 202409 UTC
<<< 480 Authentication Required
>>> AUTHINFO USER ........
<<< 381 More Authentication Required
AUTHINFO PASS .......
<<< 281 Authentication Accepted, 112742891520 Bytes remaining
>>> NEWGROUPS 081008 202409 UTC
<<< 231 List of newgroups follow
Updating group file
Apparently motzarella doesn't send the 480 error, so NewsHound doesn't
try to authenticate. I'm not sure if there's a way to force NewsHound to
send the AUTHINFO lines (I thought there was, but I can't find it in the
manual... :-( ).
Regards,
Frank
Bill (Adopt)
D'you know, I'm just having a quick look at this in my
!NewsHound v1.32-32 and, immediately prior to the line:
# Last new groups time
NEWSGROUPS{09}081020 061857
are the authentication line(s) stating:
# News server hostname:
(news.server),{subscriber's logged name},{passcode}
I'm sort of guessing that the username and password that you
say you removed must have been this line above for, if not,
then surely these lines are the very ones that your server
needs for authentication, before it hops over to a default
(error) download mode?
..a thought??
Bill ZFC
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Tony Moore
The StrongHelp manual contains a page entitled 'Setting NewsHound to use
Special Ports or AUTHINFO', but no further information about authinfo. I
suppose that the details should follow the password, in the section [ #
send on connect ], but in what format?
Tony
Tony Moore
I emailed Joseph Heenan, who wrote NewsHound, and he has responded, very
promptly, as follows:
<quote>
To make newshound send AUTHINFO it should just be a case of putting
the username and password after the server hostname with commas in
the config file:
eg: news.motzarella.org,username,password
NewsHound will only send the username/password if requested by the
news server by it sending a '480 authentication required' response.
If the server isn't sending that someone would need to look at
altering newshound to send the authentication anyway; the source is
all on sourceforge under the riscosnet project, but I'm not really in
a position to look at it myself.
</quote>
Motzarella apparently disregards http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4643 ,
which requires that
An NNTP server responds to a client command with a 480 response to
indicate that the client MUST authenticate and/or authorize in order
to use that command or access the indicated resource...
and, since NewsHound works perfectly with better mannered news-servers,
in my view, there is little point in giving motzarella further thought.
Tony
Ray Banana
> Motzarella apparently disregards http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4643 ,
> which requires that
>
> An NNTP server responds to a client command with a 480 response to
> indicate that the client MUST authenticate and/or authorize in order
> to use that command or access the indicated resource...
Motzarella carries two hierarchies that allow reading and posting without
authentication, so there is no need to send a 480 on an initial connection.
At this point, it is not yet known which news groups the client intends to
access and there is no "Posting allowed (partially)" message.
If the client subsequently tries to access a group outside the scope
of its current permissions, it will get the "502 Persission denied" that has
been observed by some people in this thread.
> and, since NewsHound works perfectly with better mannered news-servers,
> in my view, there is little point in giving motzarella further thought.
You might want to reconsider your view then. What you see on Motzarella is
the standard behaviour of the current stable version of INN, which is not
likely to change any time soon. Most well-behaved news clients offer an option
to unconditionally (i.e. without an initial 480 prompt) use a user name and
and password if the user provided them (See Motzarella's FAQ[1] for details).
[1] http://news.motzarella.org/index.php?language=en&showpage=faq#Login-No-Auth
Please feel free to continue this discussion in news.software.nntp
--
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http://news.motzarella.org
Julien ÉLIE
>>> A 502 error means the server is temporarily overloaded due to high
>>> traffic. I guess there's no solution to this other than to try
>>> again later when the server is less busy.
>>
>> Have a look at: http://www.webopedia.com/quick_ref/error.asp
>> for info on error messages.
>
> Thanks Chris. Saved for future reference.
Please note that it is not at all relevant for the NNTP protocol.
Error messages are different between the HTTP protocol and the NNTP protocol.
Please see <http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3977#page-117> for the real signification
of NNTP response codes.
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Tony Moore
> * Tony Moore wrote:
>
> > Motzarella apparently disregards http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4643
> >
> > An NNTP server responds to a client command with a 480 response to
> > indicate that the client MUST authenticate and/or authorize in
> > order to use that command or access the indicated resource...
>
> Motzarella carries two hierarchies that allow reading and posting
> without authentication, so there is no need to send a 480 on an
> initial connection. At this point, it is not yet known which news
> groups the client intends to access and there is no "Posting allowed
> (partially)" message.
>
> If the client subsequently tries to access a group outside the scope
> of its current permissions, it will get the "502 Persission denied"
> that has been observed by some people in this thread.
Thank you for confirming the source of the problem.
> > and, since NewsHound works perfectly with better mannered
> > news-servers, in my view, there is little point in giving motzarella
> > further thought.
>
> You might want to reconsider your view then.
As currently configured, Motzarella is incompatible with NewsHound so,
as a user of NewsHound, I see no reason to change my view.
> What you see on Motzarella is the standard behaviour of the current
> stable version of INN which is not likely to change any time soon.
INN is only one, of many, usenet news-server packages.
Motzarella runs on INN 2.4.5. However, Aioe, which requires neither
username nor password, runs on INN 2.4.4. I am not familiar with the
details of either version, but it seems likely that both versions can be
configured with varying degrees of authentication, and that the current
configuration of Motzarella is not inevitable.
> Most well-behaved news clients offer an option to unconditionally
> (i.e. without an initial 480 prompt) use a user name and and password
> if the user provided them (See Motzarella's FAQ[1] for details).
Motzarella's FAQ lists ten mainstream newsreaders (Forte Agent, Gnus,
Mozilla Thunderbird, mutt, Opera, Pine, Seamonkey, slrn, xrn) whose
standard configurations need to be changed to work with Motzarella.
Tony
Julien ÉLIE
>> > and, since NewsHound works perfectly with better mannered
>> > news-servers, in my view, there is little point in giving motzarella
>> > further thought.
>>
>> You might want to reconsider your view then.
>
> As currently configured, Motzarella is incompatible with NewsHound so,
> as a user of NewsHound, I see no reason to change my view.
I agree INN 2.4.x is not well-mannered as for handling authentication
requests and permissions. As I explained in news.software.nntp, the problem
is fixed in INN 2.5 but this version is not the stable one (it is the
trunk, still under development).
http://groups.google.fr/group/news.software.nntp/browse_frm/thread/433febdeb5a37421
> Motzarella runs on INN 2.4.5. However, Aioe, which requires neither
> username nor password, runs on INN 2.4.4. I am not familiar with the
> details of either version, but it seems likely that both versions can be
> configured with varying degrees of authentication, and that the current
> configuration of Motzarella is not inevitable.
It is inevitable for Motzarella because it has newsgroups which are accessible
only after authentication, contrary to Aioe.
Aioe never sends 502 for reading access. Neither does it send 480.
Oh, by the way, will your NewsHound correctly behave when INN 2.5 answers 483?
Maybe NewsHound will never be able to play well with authentication because
AUTHINFO USER is discouraged on unencrypted connections. It will have
to use STARTTLS. Or AUTHINFO SASL...
This is currently the good manner. (See RFC 4643 you already mentioned.)
--
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Tony Moore
> Hi Tony,
[snip]
> > Motzarella runs on INN 2.4.5. However, Aioe, which requires neither
> > username nor password, runs on INN 2.4.4. I am not familiar with the
> > details of either version, but it seems likely that both versions
> > can be configured with varying degrees of authentication, and that
> > the current configuration of Motzarella is not inevitable.
>
> It is inevitable for Motzarella because it has newsgroups which are
> accessible only after authentication, contrary to Aioe.
My point was that INN 2.4 can be configured in differing ways and that
Motzarella's developers have chosen its authentication policy to be the
way is. It does not follow automatically from the use of INN.
If Motzarella had a single hierarchy of groups, and could make up its
mind whether it required authentication, or not, this behaviour would be
unnecessary.
> Aioe never sends 502 for reading access. Neither does it send 480.
Aioe _never_ requires authentication, so 480 is irrelevant.
news.sunsite.dk (which doesn't run on INN) does require authentication,
does issue 480, and does allow NewsHound to connect without problem.
> Oh, by the way, will your NewsHound correctly behave when INN 2.5
> answers 483? Maybe NewsHound will never be able to play well with
> authentication because AUTHINFO USER is discouraged on unencrypted
> connections. It will have to use STARTTLS. Or AUTHINFO SASL... This is
> currently the good manner. (See RFC 4643 you already mentioned.)
NewsHound uses AUTHINFO USER, which is accepted by a wide range of free,
and commercial, usenet servers. As you suggest, it would have difficulty
with a 483 response so if, and when, that behaviour becomes commonplace,
further development of NewsHound may be needed.
Tony
S G
> I've registered with the free news server motzarella.org which
> requires a userID & password to log in to read/write to all newsgroups
> other than their local groups.
> In the past, with news.individual.net, I've successfully put these two
> parameters comma separated after the server name so I would think it
> does send userID & password when requested. However, doing similarly
> with motzarella
> # News server hostname:
> news.motzarella.org,[userID],[password]
> only returns the less than helpful "Server error : 502 'Permission
> denied".
> Presumably, either the parameter request is being ignored by NewsHound
> because it is in a form unrecognised, or the sending of them by
> NewsHound is not as expected by the server.
> I know NewsHound is pretty long in the tooth by now. Is it just not up
> to doing a modern job or can anyone help me connect to the Motzarella
> server?
At Druck's suggestion (since news.aioe.cjb.net) seems to have stopped,
I gave motzarella a go only to find the same problem as David, above.
I had not followed the original thread but found it on Google whilst
searching for a solution. I didn't find one there but upon trying
the 2nd of the three server names given in the Motz. user reg. email
- reader.motzarella.org - with all other details the same, I found
that it works fine (at least, as far as fetching is concerned)!
--
Stewart Goldwater
http://janusg.co.nr
David
[Snip]
> >can anyone
> > help me connect to the Motzarella server?
> At Druck's suggestion (since news.aioe.cjb.net) seems to have stopped,
> I gave motzarella a go only to find the same problem as David, above.
> I had not followed the original thread but found it on Google whilst
> searching for a solution. I didn't find one there but upon trying
> the 2nd of the three server names given in the Motz. user reg. email
> - reader.motzarella.org - with all other details the same, I found
> that it works fine (at least, as far as fetching is concerned)!
Chrizzy Prezzy!
Thanks Stewart!
(Gonna try to post this via Motz as well as Freeola.)
Nope: Rejected by Motzarella.
Tony Moore
> In article <0070-2-0.2008...@ntlworld.com>,
> S G <nws...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> > On 1st Oct. David wrote:
>
> [Snip]
>
> > > can anyone help me connect to the Motzarella server?
[snip]
> > upon trying the 2nd of the three server names given in the Motz.
> > user reg. email - reader.motzarella.org - with all other details the
> > same, I found that it works fine (at least, as far as fetching is
> > concerned)!
[snip]
> (Gonna try to post this via Motz as well as Freeola.)
>
> Nope: Rejected by Motzarella.
reader.motzarella.org is read-only.
Tony
David H Wild
David <nos...@nomaps.amnops.invalid> wrote:
> (Gonna try to post this via Motz as well as Freeola.)
> Nope: Rejected by Motzarella.
Specify the news server as "news.motzarella.org:8119" and you should get
in.
--
David Wild using RISC OS on broadband
www.davidhwild.me.uk
JTM
David H Wild <dhw...@talktalk.net> wrote:
> In article <5012214c...@nomaps.amnops.invalid>,
> David <nos...@nomaps.amnops.invalid> wrote:
> > (Gonna try to post this via Motz as well as Freeola.)
> > Nope: Rejected by Motzarella.
> Specify the news server as "news.motzarella.org:8119" and you should get
> in.
And it allows posting as well, while 'reader.mot' allows, well, reading.
John
--
John Mulrooney
NOTE Email address IS correct but might not be checked for a while.
Where did that tag line go?
Tony Moore
[snip]
> Specify the news server as "news.motzarella.org:8119" and you should
> get in.
Excellent, many thanks for that.
Tony
David
<dhw...@talktalk.net> wrote:
> In article <5012214c...@nomaps.amnops.invalid>, David
> <nos...@nomaps.amnops.invalid> wrote:
> > (Gonna try to post this via Motz as well as Freeola.)
> > Nope: Rejected by Motzarella.
> Specify the news server as "news.motzarella.org:8119" and you should
> get in.
By golly, so I did. Brilliant!
Ta very much!