Uniprint
Dave
I am having a little prob: with Uniprint again. Last Time I used
it,couple of months ago, it was OK. Now it wont go so I thought I
woukd re-install it on PC.Trouble is I cant find the Uniprint.exe file
to put on to HD.Unless I dont recognise a .exe file? I can get the
uniprint icon showing on pc icon bar but each time I ask the RPC to
print to uniprint after a while it gives 'Connection to remote
printer server failed'
What am I doing wrong please?
Dave.
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What does UniSetup say about the network connection?
> Dave.
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Dave
> What does UniSetup say about the network connection?
>
>> Dave.
>
Eh! ellucidate please?
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Dave
Dave <ma...@daveandsylvia.plus.com> wrote:
I mean,what do you mean?
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Dave <ma...@daveandsylvia.plus.com> wrote:
> > What does UniSetup say about the network connection?
> >
> >> Dave.
> >
> Eh! ellucidate please?
UniSetup is how you configure the RISC OS end to your PC.
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Dave
"Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <18ec16b6...@dave.daveandsylvia.plus.com>,
> Dave <ma...@daveandsylvia.plus.com> wrote:
>> > What does UniSetup say about the network connection?
>> >
>> >> Dave.
>> >
>> Eh! ellucidate please?
>
> UniSetup is how you configure the RISC OS end to your PC.
>
> --
Where do I find the IP address of the PC please,Dave?
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Brian Carroll
Dave <ma...@daveandsylvia.plus.com> wrote:
> In message <50b62b6...@davenoise.co.uk>
> "Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
[Snip]
> > UniSetup is how you configure the RISC OS end to your PC.
> >
> > --
> Where do I find the IP address of the PC please,Dave?
From your header you are using RISC OS 4.02. If so, go to Apps
-> !Configure -> Network -> Hosts where you should find the IP
addresses of everything on your network, including the PC.
Brian.
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Steve Fryatt
> Where do I find the IP address of the PC please,Dave?
On the PC.
Go to the Start Menu, select "Run", enter "cmd" and hit Return. In the
resulting command window, type
ipconfig
and you will be told the machine's IP address. Close the command window by
typing
exit
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Dave
Steve Fryatt <ne...@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
> Dave <ma...@daveandsylvia.plus.com> wrote:
>
>> Where do I find the IP address of the PC please,Dave?
>
> On the PC.
>
> Go to the Start Menu, select "Run", enter "cmd" and hit Return. In the
> resulting command window, type
>
> ipconfig
>
> and you will be told the machine's IP address. Close the command window by
> typing
>
> exit
>
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Jeremy Nicoll - news posts
> Thank you,I have done it before but my memory fails when it's wanted.
Something tells me you're not keeping notes of how you install and configure
software. Why not?
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Jeremy Nicoll - news posts
<jn.nntp....@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> wrote:
> Dave <ma...@daveandsylvia.plus.com> wrote:
>
>> Thank you,I have done it before but my memory fails when it's wanted.
>
> Something tells me you're not keeping notes of how you install and configure
> software. Why not?
>
Good point! I do write stuff down and sometimes I am called away to
help with other things,then it's finding the perishing stuff
afterwards:-( however,what I am trying to do now is compile an how to
do what in a file on the RPC. hopefully this will suffice in the
future, but please don't shout at me if I have to ask something again.
What I do want to know at the moment is why I can't find a file
that says uniprint.exe on the PC,or is it called just uniprint?
Dave
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Dave
Dave <ma...@daveandsylvia.plus.com> wrote:
> In message <gemini.ksr2y...@wingsandbeaks.org.uk.invalid>
snip
>
All of the replies I have had today go into the printers file under
the name messages. I reckon even I could find them there.
This RPC is really good. I changed my password to the ISP and changed
it on all the computers on network, but forgot to change it on the
router. Consequently next day no one could log on.Could I find how to
do the necessary on the PC.No way. But on the RPC,a doddle. Just an
aside.
Dave.
>
> Friends don't tell friends 'Use Windows'
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Brian Carroll
<ma...@daveandsylvia.plus.com> wrote:
[Snip]
> ... What I do want to know at the moment is why I can't find a
> file that says uniprint.exe on the PC,or is it called just
> uniprint?
It should be in folder C:\Program Files\Uniprint\
Dave Symes
Brian Carroll <bric-...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <4b54a1b6...@dave.daveandsylvia.plus.com>, Dave
> <ma...@daveandsylvia.plus.com> wrote:
> [Snip]
> > ... What I do want to know at the moment is why I can't find a
> > file that says uniprint.exe on the PC,or is it called just
> > uniprint?
> It should be in folder C:\Program Files\Uniprint\
> Brian.
Should it...? Yes I know on most folks computers, Program Files is the
crap bin for installed things, but...
Because I'm a recalcitrant expletive, on my Win machines only Microsoft or
direct OS stuff goes in Program Files, all else goes in a directory called
"Apps".
I also refuse to have folders, I have Directories.
So there...
Dave (But not the one asking the question)
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Dave Plowman (News)
Normal place is in the Startup folder.
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Mike (Newsgroups)
> Dave
If it's any help, the file you run to install it on the Windows machine is
called Uniprint but when it is installed on the Windows machine the
application becomes Uniserver.
Michael
Dave Plowman (News)
> [Snip]
> > ... What I do want to know at the moment is why I can't find a
> > file that says uniprint.exe on the PC,or is it called just
> > uniprint?
> It should be in folder C:\Program Files\Uniprint\
Mine's not - don't think it came with the usual Windows installer. I put
it in the Startup file. Seems to work just fine.
> Brian.
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Alan Dawes
> > Where do I find the IP address of the PC please,Dave?
> On the PC.
> Go to the Start Menu, select "Run", enter "cmd" and hit Return. In the
> resulting command window, type
> ipconfig
> and you will be told the machine's IP address. Close the command window
> by typing
> exit
If as is usual your PC is using an IP address assigned by your router by
DHCP it may well change, so if you need to configure that absolute address
then go into your router set up and reserve that address for your PC so it
won't get changed.
Alan
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Grahame Parish
"Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <50b6a390fd...@argonet.co.uk>,
> Brian Carroll <bric-...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>> In article <4b54a1b6...@dave.daveandsylvia.plus.com>, Dave
>> <ma...@daveandsylvia.plus.com> wrote:
>> It should be in folder C:\Program Files\Uniprint\
> Mine's not - don't think it came with the usual Windows installer. I put
> it in the Startup file. Seems to work just fine.
>> Brian.
You wouldn't normally put a program in the Startup folder. It should
really only contain shortcuts that point to where the program is
located.
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Brian Carroll
<ne...@anotherday.me.uk> wrote:
> In article <4b54a1b6...@dave.daveandsylvia.plus.com>,
> Dave <ma...@daveandsylvia.plus.com> wrote:
[Snip]
> > ... What I do want to know at the moment is why I can't find
> > a file that says uniprint.exe on the PC,or is it called just
> > uniprint?
> If it's any help, the file you run to install it on the
> Windows machine is called Uniprint but when it is installed
> on the Windows machine the application becomes Uniserver.
Let's have a really good nit-picking session about Windows'
foibles. shall we?
The title of the application's control panel accessed from the
Windows taskbar is indeed UniServer, but the OP, Dave, wanted to
'... find a file ...': he knew the application's name.
The file that does the business here is C:\Program
Files\Uniprint\UNIPRINT.EXE which is where IIRC the installer
originally put it on my machine. Mind you, I have been through
most versions of Uniserver since it were nowt but a lad and am
now using the grown up v3.20 whose installation instructions are
not really a model of clarity:
"Click on Start in the bottom left hand corner of the screen,
then on My Computer, then double click on Drive C. Unless you
put UniPrint.exe somewhere else originally, you should see it
near the bottom of the list. ..."
which implies it was put in the root directory - surely not? It
apparently might be put anywhere; my answer to Dave
indicated the most likely place to find the .EXE file he wants.
And another thing. He will not see UniPrint.EXE unless 'hide
extensions for known file types' has been disabled in Control
Panel -> Folder Options -> View . However, the Windows 'Find'
utility lists everything containing 'UniPrint' within a minute
or two.
Dave
"Mike (Newsgroups)" <ne...@anotherday.me.uk> wrote:
> In article <4b54a1b6...@dave.daveandsylvia.plus.com>, Dave
> <ma...@daveandsylvia.plus.com> wrote:
>> In message <gemini.ksr2y...@wingsandbeaks.org.uk.invalid>
>> Jeremy Nicoll - news posts
>> <jn.nntp....@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> wrote:
snip
future, but please don't shout at me if I have to ask something
again.
>> What I do want to know at the moment is why I can't find a file
>> that says uniprint.exe on the PC,or is it called just uniprint?
>
>> Dave
>
> If it's any help, the file you run to install it on the Windows machine is
> called Uniprint but when it is installed on the Windows machine the
> application becomes Uniserver.
>
> Michael
>
AAhh! I've traced the C;\Program Files\Uniprint\ On opening this I
get the Uniserver icon on icon bar.
I can't see UniPrint.exe anywhere unless the .exe IS the UniPrint
executed ie.Uniserver?
At the moment I ask the RPC to print,and the UniPrint icon on RPC
shows Printing but nout comes through to the PC. It then turns
off,that is the icon turns back to Uniprint.
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Dave
> In article <4b54a1b6...@dave.daveandsylvia.plus.com>, Dave
> <ma...@daveandsylvia.plus.com> wrote:
>> In message <gemini.ksr2y...@wingsandbeaks.org.uk.invalid>
>> Jeremy Nicoll - news posts
>> <jn.nntp....@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> > Dave <ma...@daveandsylvia.plus.com> wrote:
>>
Hang on! I have just asked the printer to print this previous
incoming mail and it has. The difference being that the Uniserver icon
used to expand into a panel which gave the server status and showed
incoming instruction.Tried another one, yes, it would appear that the
instruction is going straight to the printer through UniPrint.
Remember that this is the R300 printer that my RPC will not print from
directly. Must try it with colour now.
Regards, Dave.
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Chris Evans
<URL:mailto:bric-...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <893882b6...@dave.daveandsylvia.plus.com>,
> Dave <ma...@daveandsylvia.plus.com> wrote:
> > In message <50b62b6...@davenoise.co.uk>
> > "Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
>
> [Snip]
>
> > > UniSetup is how you configure the RISC OS end to your PC.
> > >
> > > --
> > Where do I find the IP address of the PC please,Dave?
>
> From your header you are using RISC OS 4.02. If so, go to Apps
> -> !Configure -> Network -> Hosts where you should find the IP
> addresses of everything on your network, including the PC.
Only if you enetered the details previously by hand.
Many people never bother adding the other computers on their network in.
IIRC the only advantage in entering them is the ability to refer to other
computers by name rather than IP address.
The disadvantge being in that in a changing network you have to keep editing
them on each machine.
Chris Evans
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Dave
Dave Symes <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <50b6a390fd...@argonet.co.uk>,
> Brian Carroll <bric-...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>> In article <4b54a1b6...@dave.daveandsylvia.plus.com>, Dave
>> <ma...@daveandsylvia.plus.com> wrote:
>
>> [Snip]
>
>> > ... What I do want to know at the moment is why I can't find a
>> > file that says uniprint.exe on the PC,or is it called just
>> > uniprint?
>
>> It should be in folder C:\Program Files\Uniprint\
Hi chaps, From yesterday where I was printing via UniPrint,I came to
try it out again today and it wouldn't. Looked at the IP address and
it had altered from 192.168.1.101 to 192.168.1.102. However,putting
that correct did not help the prog to start.I looked in search and
typed in Uniprint.exe. Results were a file in
C:\WINDOWS\...27KB PF File 06/11/2009
and another one 25KB on 10/11/2009.
Also in this folder was
Uniprint C:\Program Files 96KB Application 18/11/2005.
C__PROGRAM FILES_UNIPRI... C:\Program Fil... 1KB NDB File 05/05/2009
C__DOCUMENTS AND SETTIN... C:\Program Fil... 1KB NDB File 12/06/2009
Shortcut to UNIPRINT.EXE-13...C;\Documents... 1KB Shortcut 10/11/2009
I dragged the uniprint.exe file to the desktop and found I could print
a file. I notice that the UniPrint icon on the RPC changes briefly to
printing and then back to UniPrint.
How do I get the Prog to work next time I want it to? without going
all through this again?
regards,
Dave.
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> In message <50b6a8b...@triffid.co.uk>
> Dave Symes <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > In article <50b6a390fd...@argonet.co.uk>,
> > Brian Carroll <bric-...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> >> In article <4b54a1b6...@dave.daveandsylvia.plus.com>, Dave
> >> <ma...@daveandsylvia.plus.com> wrote:
> >
> >> [Snip]
> >
> >> > ... What I do want to know at the moment is why I can't find a
> >> > file that says uniprint.exe on the PC,or is it called just
> >> > uniprint?
> >
> >> It should be in folder C:\Program Files\Uniprint\
>
>
> Hi chaps, From yesterday where I was printing via UniPrint,I came to
> try it out again today and it wouldn't. Looked at the IP address and
> it had altered from 192.168.1.101 to 192.168.1.102.
Presumably your computer gets its IP address by DHCP from your router?
Probably yesterday this computer was the first one to talkk to the router
and got the first free address (from a range starting at 101) today
something else talked to the router first (another computer perhaps, or it
may just be that having handed out 101 yesterday the router is now handing
out the next free address).
You might be better to have this PC use a static (ie fixed) IP address
rather than one assigned by DHCP. That is, tell your PC always to use - say
- 192.168.1.50 - that would need set up in Windows under Network
Connections, but whether it's sensible or not depends on what else you have
on your network and how you use the other machines.
> However,putting that correct did not help the prog to start.I looked in
> search and typed in Uniprint.exe. Results were a file in
> C:\WINDOWS\...27KB PF File 06/11/2009
> and another one 25KB on 10/11/2009.
I just don't know what you mean by that. What's the significance of "..."?
What's a "PF File"? And what do you mean by "and another one"? No-one can
read your mind you know.
> Also in this folder was
> Uniprint C:\Program Files 96KB Application 18/11/2005.
> C__PROGRAM FILES_UNIPRI... C:\Program Fil... 1KB NDB File 05/05/2009
> C__DOCUMENTS AND SETTIN... C:\Program Fil... 1KB NDB File 12/06/2009
> Shortcut to UNIPRINT.EXE-13...C;\Documents... 1KB Shortcut 10/11/2009
If there's useful info there I don't know what it is, because I don't know
what the "..." represents. Have these lines been wrapped by your email
program?
> I dragged the uniprint.exe file to the desktop and found I could print
> a file.
??? What made you drag the file anywhere? I've never ever dragged any .exe
file to the windows desktop. I don't know what that would do, other than
either copy or - worse - move it from wherever it is - and how would that
help?
If the file you dragged was in the /proper/ location on your machine, then
copying or moving it could not usefully affect how it would be found by RO
or any other part of Windows.
> How do I get the Prog to work next time I want it to? without going
> all through this again?
I don't know. But interfering with how it was installed will not help.
Did you not (I know, stupid question) make any notes about how the thing was
installed when you first started using it? Or note down the settings you
made or things you configured it to do? If you had, maybe you could compare
that with what's happening now.
Maybe you should completely uninstall the application and then install it
following whatever instructions there are, and note what you do. Then if it
doesn't work you'll have a concrete set of facts to go on, and R-Comp will
be able to help.
Steve Fryatt
> From yesterday where I was printing via UniPrint,I came to try
> it out again today and it wouldn't. Looked at the IP address and it had
> altered from 192.168.1.101 to 192.168.1.102.
That suggests that the PC is getting its IP address from DHCP. As already
noted by someone, you need to fix the address: either by reserving one for
the PC in the router so it always gets the same number, or by setting the PC
to a static IP in Windows (avoiding the block of addresses used by the
router for DHCP).
> However,putting that correct did not help the prog to start.I looked in
> search and typed in Uniprint.exe. Results were a file in
> C:\WINDOWS\...27KB PF File 06/11/2009
> and another one 25KB on 10/11/2009.
> Also in this folder was
> Uniprint C:\Program Files 96KB Application 18/11/2005. C__PROGRAM
> FILES_UNIPRI... C:\Program Fil... 1KB NDB File 05/05/2009 C__DOCUMENTS
> AND SETTIN... C:\Program Fil... 1KB NDB File 12/06/2009 Shortcut to
> UNIPRINT.EXE-13...C;\Documents... 1KB Shortcut 10/11/2009
>
> I dragged the uniprint.exe file to the desktop and found I could print a
> file. I notice that the UniPrint icon on the RPC changes briefly to
> printing and then back to UniPrint.
I don't use UniPrint, but have you tried following the installation
instructions supplied by R-comp? I'd imagine that these would explain where
the file should go and how it should be launched.
Dave
>>
>> Hi chaps, From yesterday where I was printing via UniPrint,I came to
>> try it out again today and it wouldn't. Looked at the IP address and
>> it had altered from 192.168.1.101 to 192.168.1.102.
>
> Presumably your computer gets its IP address by DHCP from your router?
> Probably yesterday this computer was the first one to talkk to the router
> and got the first free address (from a range starting at 101) today
> something else talked to the router first (another computer perhaps, or it
> may just be that having handed out 101 yesterday the router is now handing
> out the next free address).
>
> You might be better to have this PC use a static (ie fixed) IP address
> rather than one assigned by DHCP. That is, tell your PC always to use - say
> - 192.168.1.50 - that would need set up in Windows under Network
> Connections, but whether it's sensible or not depends on what else you have
> on your network and how you use the other machines.
>
>
>> However,putting that correct did not help the prog to start.I looked in
>> search and typed in Uniprint.exe. Results were a file in
>
>> C:\WINDOWS\...27KB PF File 06/11/2009
>> and another one 25KB on 10/11/2009.
>
> I just don't know what you mean by that. What's the significance of "..."?
> What's a "PF File"? And what do you mean by "and another one"? No-one can
> read your mind you know.
Trying to save ink by not repeating C:\WINDOWS\... 25KB PF File on
10/11/2009
>
>> Also in this folder was
>> Uniprint C:\Program Files 96KB Application 18/11/2005.
>> C__PROGRAM FILES_UNIPRI... C:\Program Fil... 1KB NDB File 05/05/2009
>> C__DOCUMENTS AND SETTIN... C:\Program Fil... 1KB NDB File 12/06/2009
>> Shortcut to UNIPRINT.EXE-13... C;\Documents... 1KB Shortcut 10/11/2009
>
> If there's useful info there I don't know what it is, because I don't know
> what the "..." represents. Have these lines been wrapped by your email
> program?
The ... after the cut off words were exactly as the computer showed
them
>
>> I dragged the uniprint.exe file to the desktop and found I could print
>> a file.
>
> ??? What made you drag the file anywhere? I've never ever dragged any .exe
> file to the windows desktop. I don't know what that would do, other than
> either copy or - worse - move it from wherever it is - and how would that
> help?
>
> If the file you dragged was in the /proper/ location on your machine, then
> copying or moving it could not usefully affect how it would be found by RO
> or any other part of Windows.
I haven't the foggiest either, I tried clicking to see if that
would motivate something,and then wondered if I could drag the .exe
file copy to the desktop,which in fact happened.
>
> Did you not (I know, stupid question) make any notes about how the thing was
> installed when you first started using it? Or note down the settings you
> made or things you configured it to do? If you had, maybe you could compare
> that with what's happening now.
Yes I did copy everything down that has been written in the last few
days,as per your suggestion,and also made notes as to what action I
took and also what effect those actions had.
As I do not know what changes x y z make when I do them I have to
try a print job after each step.It was yesterday as I reported that a
job got printed, but then wouldn't repeat the job.
Going back to the first installation. I followed the instructions to
the letter and the thing worked.I have in the past week re-installed
it from scratch and it didn't work.Hence the cry for help on the
Group.I am learning though how to look at various bits of the PC side.
Regards,
Dave.
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> >> Also in this folder was
> >> Uniprint C:\Program Files 96KB Application 18/11/2005.
> >> C__PROGRAM FILES_UNIPRI... C:\Program Fil... 1KB NDB File 05/05/2009
> >> C__DOCUMENTS AND SETTIN... C:\Program Fil... 1KB NDB File 12/06/2009
> >> Shortcut to UNIPRINT.EXE-13... C;\Documents... 1KB Shortcut 10/11/2009
> >
> > If there's useful info there I don't know what it is, because I don't
> > know what the "..." represents. Have these lines been wrapped by your
> > email program?
> The ... after the cut off words were exactly as the computer showed
> them
Ah right. It's because there's a long filename being shown in a narrow
column. If you put the mouse pointer on the divider between two columns'
titles you can drag the columns wider and see the whole value, or more of it
anyway. That's true of pretty much any coloumn-based layout anywhere in
windows.
> > If the file you dragged was in the /proper/ location on your machine,
> > then copying or moving it could not usefully affect how it would be
> > found by RO or any other part of Windows.
> I haven't the foggiest either, I tried clicking to see if that
> would motivate something,and then wondered if I could drag the .exe
> file copy to the desktop,which in fact happened.
Look, trying things at random is NOT the way to solve a problem. Even if it
does work now, it won't work next time; it might change the way the program
is set up in a way you don't want, too, if it is not designed to be run in
that way.
Did /you/ install uniprint on this machine? Were there instructions? Did
you follow them? Has it ever worked? What's changed?
> > Did you not (I know, stupid question) make any notes about how the thing
> > was installed when you first started using it? Or note down the
> > settings you made or things you configured it to do? If you had, maybe
> > you could compare that with what's happening now.
>
> Yes I did copy everything down that has been written in the last few
> days,as per your suggestion,and also made notes as to what action I
> took and also what effect those actions had.
> As I do not know what changes x y z make when I do them I have to
> try a print job after each step.It was yesterday as I reported that a
> job got printed, but then wouldn't repeat the job.
>
> Going back to the first installation. I followed the instructions to
> the letter and the thing worked. I have in the past week re-installed
> it from scratch and it didn't work.
Did you uninstall it cleanly before you reinstalled it?
Did you (uninstall and) reinstall both the VRPC and PC parts of it?
Does the program have any logging or debugging facilities on either OS?
When you say "it doesn't work" does all of it not work, or only some
aspects? For example, do you think the two parts are each properly
installed but won't talk to each other, or what?
Ray Dawson
> Dave <ma...@daveandsylvia.plus.com> wrote:
>
> > From yesterday where I was printing via UniPrint,I came to try it out
> > again today and it wouldn't. Looked at the IP address and it had altered
> > from 192.168.1.101 to 192.168.1.102.
>
> That suggests that the PC is getting its IP address from DHCP. As already
> noted by someone, you need to fix the address: either by reserving one for
> the PC in the router so it always gets the same number, or by setting the
> PC to a static IP in Windows (avoiding the block of addresses used by the
> router for DHCP).
Or just set the lease to forever in the router DHCP settings for this IP
address.
Cheers,
Ray D
Dave
Uniprint and the PC to the USB Epson R300 and the request failed.
Found that the IP addresses were not the same and altered one on RPC
to suit. Immediately got printing result. How do I fix the IP
addresses as suggested please.
Dave.
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Jeremy Nicoll - news posts
Tell us
- how many machines you have on your network, and which OSes they
have - version info required!
- whether, apart from Uniprint, you have other software, eg
file-sharing, that needs to know about where each machine is
- whether you've ever done any configuration of your router (assuming
that there is a router involved?)
- what model the router is (in case someone's going to have to
explain to you how to change the way it is configured)
Dave
> Tell us
>
> - how many machines you have on your network, and which OSes they
> have - version info required!
At moment 4
SARPC 4.02
2 PCs Both running XP
1 Linux running Ubunto
> - whether, apart from Uniprint, you have other software, eg
> file-sharing, that needs to know about where each machine is
No other filesharing
> - whether you've ever done any configuration of your router (assuming
> that there is a router involved?)
Configured according to router manual.
Password changed on all machines and router with help of CJE.
> - what model the router is (in case someone's going to have to
> explain to you how to change the way it is configured)
Router is Billion BIPAC-5100 / 5100W ADSL with 4 port switch
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Dave
Dave <ma...@daveandsylvia.plus.com> wrote:
>
>> Tell us
>>
>> - how many machines you have on your network, and which OSes they
>> have - version info required!
> At moment 4
> SARPC 4.02
> 2 PCs Both running XP
> 1 Linux running Ubunto
(Laptop running Ubunto)
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Jeremy Nicoll - news posts
BE SURE TO CREATE DETAILED NOTES OF EXACTLY WHAT YOU DO
OK, I know nothing about that router (my two are Draytek & Netgear). In the
router manual does it say anything about how DHCP gets configured? I'd
expect something like an IP address range eg 192.168.1.101 - 192.168.1.150,
or a start address and number of addresses eg 192.168.1.101 and 50 to be
defined. While there's no need to change these it's worth knowing what they
are.
At the moment the DHCP server in the router on the side that faces your
machines is being asked (by DHCP clients in each of your machines/OSes) for
a free IP address that they can use when they first talk to the router.
(There will also probably be a DHCP client in the router that talks to a
DHCP server at your ISP, so that your router is dynamically given an address
it can use when it talks to your ISP. This is completely separate. Most
people talk about DHCP as if there's only one set of DHCP usage in a
router...)
The router itself has an address on your network; probably 192.168.1.1.
You can find this out by Start -> Run -> ipconfig /all
On my machine I see something like:
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek Fast Ethernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.13
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 11 November 2009 11:24:37
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 14 November 2009 11:24:37
(What that means is that my laptop has been given an ip address by DHCP, and
has acquired other info by magic too). It's currently got ip address
192.168.1.13, subnet mask 255.255.255.0. The 'default gateway' is the ip
address to which my machine sends any outbound ip traffic. It's the address
on my network of my router and it's 192.168.1.1. You'll note that the same
address is also where my machine asks about DNS (ie translation of names in
URLs etc into ip addresses). In reality my machine asks my router, and the
router asks whatever machines my ISP has told my router to ask. Anyway, if
your DNS server address is your router's address you need to know that. If
on the other hand it's something else (probaly in that case a pair of
something elses) you need to know that too...
If you're going to stop using DHCP you need to decide for yourself what
addresses your various PCs etc are going to use, eg:
SARPC 192.168.1.21
PC 1 192.168.1.22
PC 2 192.168.1.23
Linux laptop 192.168.1.24
It doesn't matter what these are provided nothing else already uses the
addresses, and the addresses need to be outside the range that the router is
handing out via DHCP. You might want to leave the router's DHCP server
turned on so any other machine plugged into your network can get an address
to use without knowing what every one of your computers uses, or you might
want to turn it off (more secure). Anyway, on the assumption that your
router is using 192.168.1.101 upwards for DHCP, I picked addresses whose
last value is less than 101.
If eg you had a NAS (network attached storage) drive or a network printer
they'd also need their own addresses. If you ever get them they'll need
addresses assigned, both in the hosts files (as described below) and on the
devices themselves.
All 4 machines will need told about the addresses they're to use themselves
and (preferably) the addresses of all the other machines in your network.
In windows there's a file at;
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc
called: hosts
which is a plain text file but note it has no .txt extension. This needs
edited on the two windows machines. Here my firewall (ZoneAlarm) prevents
this (because if something adds malicious entries to the file it can cause a
big problem) and I have to use ZoneAlarm -> Firewall -> Main -> Advanced ->
General -> Lock hosts file (to turn that off) first, then turn it back on
afterwards. I also keep backup copies of previous versions of the hosts
file, just in case...
When you edit this file it's possible that the editor you use (eg Notepad -
you must not use Wordpad or Word) will append a .txt extension to the file
when you save it. If so you must rename the file to remove the extension
afterwards.
So - make a copy of whatever your hosts file is, just in case you destroy
it. Try to edit the existing one, and if your firewall or a/v stops you,
find out how to get round that. In the hosts file you need to give a name
(which you choose, for convenience really) and the address of each machine.
For example you might add lines that say:
192.168.1.1 router
192.168.1.21 sarpc
192.168.1.22 pc1
192.168.1.23 pc2
192.168.1.24 laptop
This means that on the machine that owns that particular hosts file, for
example, when you try to logon to your router, instead of (probably) typing
in your browser, you can use: http://router
(This might already be the case, but if so it will be because your PC does
not know what 'router' means, and asks the local DNS server. If that IS
your router, and it's been programmed to say "router" means me, then it will
work. On the other hand you could define:
192.168.1.1 handofgod
and then http://handofgod would work. I rather doubt it already does!)
It also means that you can issue commands to test the links between machines
by typing things like
ping router rather than: ping 192.168.1.1
ping sarpc rather than: ping 192.168.1.21
ping laptop rather than: ping 192.168.1.24
Probably also in configuring uniprint later you'll be able to put a
meaningful name in some box rather than an obscure ip address.
You'll need to make a similar change to the hosts file on the RPC and Linux
(I'm not sure where the linux file is) and I can't remember where it is on
RO 4.
While this tells each machine where the others should be, it does nothing to
tell each machine where it itself actually is. So for example, in windows
on PC1 (and then if this works, also on PC2) you need to tell it not to ask
the router for a DHCP-supplied address, but instead to just use a specific
address.
In Control Panel -> Network Connections, select the entry that describes
your connection. Mine's 'Local area connection'. Right-click and select
Properties. Scroll the pane until you see the line that says
Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)
which I expect will be ticked - it is here. Select it and click on
Properties. The next pane will show how it is currently configured. I
expect it will say:
General tab: obtain IP address automatically
obtain DNS server address automatically
You need to change the first one to set an explicit address, eg, for PC1
192.168.1.22
The subnet mask needs to be 255.255.255.0
Default gateway needs to be whatever your router's address is, eg
192.168.1.1, if that's what the ipconfig /all originally showed.
Below that you need to put either the router's address in, for DNS, if
that's what you had before, or whatever else ipconfig showed.
(You can leave Advanced... alone; it's possible to specify there ip
addresses etc to use if the first lot specified explicitly or acquired via
DHCP don't work.)
Click OK and then ClOSE.
Now, the next time your PC trys to start up networking (or if you disable
and then re-enable the LAN connection) it will use the values you've
provided. In fact, trying this out as I go, I've just found my PC tries the
new way immediately. Since the explicit values will be the same as what you
currently get via DHCP they should work. If they don't, go back to what the
previous definition was.
The same machine-specific definitions need to be made in RO and Linux so
those machines know what to use. I'm afraid I'm out of practice on RO and
have never configured Linux so someone else will need to explain that.
Steve Fryatt
> Dave <ma...@daveandsylvia.plus.com> wrote:
>
> > > - what model the router is (in case someone's going to have to
> > > explain to you how to change the way it is configured)
> > Router is Billion BIPAC-5100 / 5100W ADSL with 4 port switch
>
>
> BE SURE TO CREATE DETAILED NOTES OF EXACTLY WHAT YOU DO
Indeed. :-)
> OK, I know nothing about that router (my two are Draytek & Netgear). In
> the router manual does it say anything about how DHCP gets configured?
> I'd expect something like an IP address range eg 192.168.1.101 -
> 192.168.1.150, or a start address and number of addresses eg 192.168.1.101
> and 50 to be defined. While there's no need to change these it's worth
> knowing what they are.
A very quick skim of the manual suggests that by default DHCP is enabled and
that it allocates addresses from a pool of 192.168.1.100 to 192.168.1.199
inclusive.
Sadly, it doesn't seem to do IP address reservation, so you're stuck with
manually setting the address of the PC as Jeremy describes.
[snip]
> If you're going to stop using DHCP you need to decide for yourself what
> addresses your various PCs etc are going to use, eg:
>
> SARPC 192.168.1.21
> PC 1 192.168.1.22
> PC 2 192.168.1.23
> Linux laptop 192.168.1.24
>
> It doesn't matter what these are provided nothing else already uses the
> addresses, and the addresses need to be outside the range that the router
> is handing out via DHCP. You might want to leave the router's DHCP server
> turned on so any other machine plugged into your network can get an
> address to use without knowing what every one of your computers uses, or
> you might want to turn it off (more secure). Anyway, on the assumption
> that your router is using 192.168.1.101 upwards for DHCP, I picked
> addresses whose last value is less than 101.
That would work. If the issue is just to fix the Uniserve PC's address,
however, you could just reconfigure that machine and the other three
machines could just be left to use DHCP.
[Incidentally, Dave, you don't happen to be a WROCC member, by any chance?
I ask because I've written two articles on precisely this for the club
newsletter over the past two months. The first is now on the club website,
but the second -- which unfortunately is probably the one you need most
since it goes through how to set IP addresses in the way you seem to require
here -- isn't generally available yet.]
Dave Plowman (News)
Steve Fryatt <ne...@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
> [Incidentally, Dave, you don't happen to be a WROCC member, by any
> chance? I ask because I've written two articles on precisely this for
> the club newsletter over the past two months. The first is now on the
> club website, but the second -- which unfortunately is probably the one
> you need most since it goes through how to set IP addresses in the way
> you seem to require here -- isn't generally available yet.]
The much missed Paul Vigay's site has details of networking PCs and RPCs
and getting them to talk to one another. It's not failed me yet - although
their could be more modern ways of doing things.
http://www.riscos.org/networking/
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*Someday, we'll look back on this, laugh nervously and change the subject
Dave
Steve Fryatt <ne...@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
Big snip (original saved)
> [Incidentally, Dave, you don't happen to be a WROCC member, by any chance?
> I ask because I've written two articles on precisely this for the club
> newsletter over the past two months. The first is now on the club website,
> but the second -- which unfortunately is probably the one you need most
> since it goes through how to set IP addresses in the way you seem to require
> here -- isn't generally available yet.]
>
> --
No,I'm not a member of WROCC.
These are the present settings of my router.
IP Address O Obtain an IP Address Automatically
O Static IP Address ( This one ticked)
Connection O Connect on Demand (ticked)
O Nailed-Up Connection
WAN Info Mode: Routing
Encapsulation: PPPOA
Multiplexing: VC
VPI/VCI: 0/38
User Name: ------------
Password: *************
IP Address: 0.0.0.0
Network Address Translation: SUA Only
Vonnect on Demand: Max Idle Timeout 0 Sec.
LAN Info IP Address: 192.168.1.254
IP Mask: 255.255.255.0
DHCP: ON
Client IP Pool Starting Address: 192.168.1.100
Size of Client IP Pool: 100
This is the first time I've logged on today,I have asked for a print
out and the system has obliged.
Regards,
Dave.
--
Dave
You chaps have been so helpful, if I manage to make it to a show
where I may meet you, the drinks are on me,or food if you don't drink.
Dave.
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Friends don't tell friends 'Use Windows'
Steve Fryatt
> In message <mpro.ksymxi01...@stevefryatt.org.uk>
> Steve Fryatt <ne...@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > [Incidentally, Dave, you don't happen to be a WROCC member, by any
> > chance? I ask because I've written two articles on precisely this for
> > the club newsletter over the past two months.
[snip]
> That's an interesting letter...
> No,I'm not a member of WROCC.
I wondered if it might be useful, but you seem to have the problem sorted
now anyway -- hopefully!