Bookmaker
Dave Plowman (News)
folders in alphabetical order within the main list if I do a sort? I'd
like all my folders at the top of the list in alphabetical order. And
regardless of what sorting method I choose they tend to end up scattered
around. Of course I can move them afterwards.
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Nick Roberts
"Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> Love this app - but is there a way of stopping it putting my various
> folders in alphabetical order within the main list if I do a sort?
Not at present.
> I'd like all my folders at the top of the list in alphabetical order.
> And regardless of what sorting method I choose they tend to end up
> scattered around.
I could add the feature if you'd like - it shouldn't be particularly
hard.
I've just sort-of got out of the habit of tweaking BM, as it doesn't
support NetSurf, and I can't really afford the time to get familiar
enough with NetSurf to add the NetSurf-side stuff that would allow BM
to support it.
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Brian Carroll
Roberts <tig...@orpheusinternet.co.uk> wrote:
[Snip]
> I've just sort-of got out of the habit of tweaking BM, as it
> doesn't support NetSurf, and I can't really afford the time to
> get familiar enough with NetSurf to add the NetSurf-side stuff
> that would allow BM to support it.
That's a shame :-(
BM was one of my best applications when I was using Fresco a lot
and I do miss it with NetSurf.
Brian.
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Dave Plowman (News)
Nick Roberts <tig...@orpheusinternet.co.uk> wrote:
> > Love this app - but is there a way of stopping it putting my various
> > folders in alphabetical order within the main list if I do a sort?
> Not at present.
> > I'd like all my folders at the top of the list in alphabetical order.
> > And regardless of what sorting method I choose they tend to end up
> > scattered around.
> I could add the feature if you'd like - it shouldn't be particularly
> hard.
I've tried putting an 'a' or '1' in front of the folder name but that
doesn't seem to work. There are also some odds and sods that don't seem to
sort alphabetically. But look normal.
> I've just sort-of got out of the habit of tweaking BM, as it doesn't
> support NetSurf, and I can't really afford the time to get familiar
> enough with NetSurf to add the NetSurf-side stuff that would allow BM
> to support it.
Ah - My usual browser is still Oregano 1.
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Michael Finlay
Brian Carroll <bric-...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>> I've just sort-of got out of the habit of tweaking BM, as it
>> doesn't support NetSurf, and I can't really afford the time to
>> get familiar enough with NetSurf to add the NetSurf-side stuff
>> that would allow BM to support it.
> That's a shame :-(
> BM was one of my best applications when I was using Fresco a lot
> and I do miss it with NetSurf.
I find it a big miss also
Mike
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Steve Fryatt
> Ah - My usual browser is still Oregano 1.
Out of curiosity, why?
In the RISC OS world, site maintainers are still stuck having to use nasty
layout solutions to cater for users who won't migrate up to CSS-capable
browsers. In any other target market, it's generally OK to assume that
those not using 'modern' browsers (anything from the past 5+ years or so)
will be happy to see a degraded (but readable) site as a result of a lack of
CSS. For RISC OS users, we're still forced to use tables-based layout
methods if a significant chunk of the audience are to see the site as
designed.
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John-Mark Bell
> In article <50a997ee...@argonet.co.uk>,
> Stuart <Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > There is also at least one other missing feature from Netsurf, which I
> > have asked for, that makes me prefer Fresco.
>
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&atid=464315&aid=1945583&group_id=51719
>
> Still open apparently
NetSurf has long remembered the last download location and defaulted to
that for subsequent downloads. The reason that feature request is still
open is that there is no way to configure a default download location.
It probably helps to try the software to see if a feature has been
implemented, rather than relying on the state of tickets in the feature
tracker.
John.
Bill (Adopt)
Am I missing something..? :)) I use both !Fresco and
!Netsurf a lot (Risc PC with an SA'd RISC OS 4.02) as
my main - and still only(!) - machine..
In both cases, !Bookmaker accesses either that is
installed on the icon bar - even one after the other
after the one before..
Transferring urls is a simple click with !Fresco - a
little more cumbersome 'lifting' of the current url
from !Netsurf's top address bar and dropping into
!Bookmaker - but either method gets results..
Truth to tell !Fresco is convenient, fast(ish) and gets
most everywhere (*) - compared to !Netsurf's (usually
one of the latest !Netsurf 3's development ones). which
is pretty, usually accurately laid out, but almighty slow
and with a seizure making 'flashing off/on' with this
lowly 64MB platform.
Only problem with the latest !Netsurf's is an inability
to reclaim unused memory, often leading to an unceremonious
dumping of a site and all temp stored contents. Often
happens when trying to 'save' an ssl 'page' to a directory.
That and, unlike !Fresco, no immediate 'on the button'
printing with !Netsurf, of course..
..but as for Nick's !Bookmaker - seems to work OK ..at
least in it's simple sorting fashion - although, as Dave
says.... ?? :))
Hope I've got the correct end of the comments...? :))
Bill ZFC
(*) Many of the larger sites, (inc Barclay's, Amazon.co.uk
and now, slowly, even USofA's Amazon.com), are doing away
with most if not all MS Javascript - making their sites
more accessible to both !Fresco and !Netsurf as well as
other simpler browsers, or those cut down mobile versions
for the person on the move, who need speed and information
rather than vainly pretty looks.
(Amazon.com also has another site for those who's browsers
are clinically less able to accept their full site - oh that
Ebay would do the same.
For those selling Acorn kit hereabouts - as an sole RISC OS
Platform User I can't get at the very RISC OS things I might
be interested in as I'm unable to use MS Javascript - nor any
kind of PayPal, period)!
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John-Mark Bell
> That and, unlike !Fresco, no immediate 'on the button'
> printing with !Netsurf, of course..
I don't understand this. Please clarify.
John.
Rob Kendrick
Stuart <Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> Quicker to check that than going through the palaver of downloading
> etc umpteen times to find the feature you want still not implemented.
Download once, surely? Or are you still suffering dial-up?
B.
John-Mark Bell
> In article <1255442212.32582.171.camel@duiker>,
> John-Mark Bell <j...@netsurf-browser.org> wrote:
> > It probably helps to try the software to see if a feature has been
> > implemented, rather than relying on the state of tickets in the feature
> > tracker.
>
>
> I thought that was what the tracker was for!
>
> Not a lot of point having it if you don't keep it up to date is there?
I explained why that request is not closed in the part of my reply that
you snipped.
Looking at the date of that request, it predates by almost a year the
version 2.0 release. In the light of that, I don't think it's
unrealistic to suggest that you try a more recent version.
John.
Dave Plowman (News)
> Out of curiosity, why?
Should have said if I'm forced to use a RISC OS browser it will usually be
Oregano 1. Mostly I'm sensible and use Firefox - on the PC.
> In the RISC OS world, site maintainers are still stuck having to use
> nasty layout solutions to cater for users who won't migrate up to
> CSS-capable browsers. In any other target market, it's generally OK to
> assume that those not using 'modern' browsers (anything from the past 5+
> years or so) will be happy to see a degraded (but readable) site as a
> result of a lack of CSS. For RISC OS users, we're still forced to use
> tables-based layout methods if a significant chunk of the audience are
> to see the site as designed.
Not interested in 'site design'. IMHO black print on a white background
would suit me just fine.
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John-Mark Bell
> In article <1255451780.32582.195.camel@duiker>,
> John-Mark Bell <j...@netsurf-browser.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 17:06 +0100, Stuart wrote:
> > > In article <1255442212.32582.171.camel@duiker>,
> > > John-Mark Bell <j...@netsurf-browser.org> wrote:
> > > > It probably helps to try the software to see if a feature has been
> > > > implemented, rather than relying on the state of tickets in the feature
> > > > tracker.
> > >
> > > Oh!
> > >
> > > I thought that was what the tracker was for!
> > >
> > > Not a lot of point having it if you don't keep it up to date is there?
>
> > I explained why that request is not closed in the part of my reply that
> > you snipped.
>
Ah! Well, that's different :)
That particular ticket contains two requests:
1) For there to be a configurable default download location.
2) For the last used download location to be remembered and used for
subsequent downloads.
Only the second of these features is implemented, hence why we've not
closed the ticket.
John.
Michael Drake
Stuart <Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <1255444613.32582.187.camel@duiker>,
> Fresco has a button on the toolbar to initiate printing, NetSurf's print
> dialogue box is via the menu button.
So does NetSurf. You're probably using the default toolbar. It is
trivial to add and remove icons from the toolbar.
1. Click Menu over the toolbar
2. Select "Edit toolbar"
A second row of icons appears
Drag the icons around to arrange the toolbar as suits you
3. When you're done, click Menu over the toolbar
4. Select "Edit toolbar" again to toggle toolbar customisation mode off
There's more info in the documentation.
List of all the available icons:
http://www.netsurf-browser.org/documentation/guide#BrowserWindowToolbar
Details of Toolbar customisation mode:
http://www.netsurf-browser.org/documentation/guide#ConfigurationToolbar
Michael
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Chris Newman
Bill (Adopt) wrote:
> In article <31c43ba...@orpheusmail.co.uk>,
> Michael Finlay <mj...@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:
> > In message <50a9392ee3...@argonet.co.uk>
> > Brian Carroll <bric-...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > >> I've just sort-of got out of the habit of tweaking BM, as it
> > >> doesn't support NetSurf, and I can't really afford the time to
> > >> get familiar enough with NetSurf to add the NetSurf-side stuff
> > >> that would allow BM to support it.
>
> > > That's a shame :-(
>
> > > BM was one of my best applications when I was using Fresco a lot
> > > and I do miss it with NetSurf.
>
> > I find it a big miss also
>
> Am I missing something..? :)) I use both !Fresco and
> !Netsurf a lot (Risc PC with an SA'd RISC OS 4.02) as
> my main - and still only(!) - machine..
>
> In both cases, !Bookmaker accesses either that is
> installed on the icon bar - even one after the other
> after the one before..
I also am able to use Bookmaker with any browser on my RiscPC. IIRC,
the trick was to make sure that one of bookmakers supported browsers
was loaded (or maybe just "seen") when first setting up the app using !
BMConfigure. In Bookmaker's Preferences window, I also have the
"Browser" option set to Shared.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Dave Plowman (News)
Stuart <Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <50a9adb...@davenoise.co.uk>,
> Dave Plowman (News) <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> > Not interested in 'site design'. IMHO black print on a white background
> > would suit me just fine.
> With JPEGs where appropriate!
Oh indeed.
I well remember one site which was pretty ok with Oregano - apart from
some of the 'buttons' not working. Went to it with Firefox on the PC only
to find there was a coloured pattern behind the text making it very
difficult to read. ;-)
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Michael Finlay
ups.com>
Chris Newman <cvj...@waitrose.com> wrote:
> I also am able to use Bookmaker with any browser on my RiscPC. IIRC,
> the trick was to make sure that one of bookmakers supported browsers
> was loaded (or maybe just "seen") when first setting up the app using !
> BMConfigure. In Bookmaker's Preferences window, I also have the
> "Browser" option set to Shared.
> Hope this helps.
> Regards,
I've just tried setting the Browser option to shared as mentioned
above. Now Bookmaker crashes on loading with the error message:
"Cannot Locate Address Books (Applications have not been seen by
filer)"
My machine is an Iyonix
Mike
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Bill (Adopt)
Michael Drake <mi...@smoothartist.com> wrote:
> In article <50a9c62a...@argonet.co.uk>,
> Stuart <Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <1255444613.32582.187.camel@duiker>,
> > John-Mark Bell <j...@netsurf-browser.org> wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 15:32 +0100, Bill (Adopt) wrote:
> > > > That and, unlike !Fresco, no immediate 'on the button'
> > > > printing with !Netsurf, of course..
> > > I don't understand this. Please clarify.
> > Fresco has a button on the toolbar to initiate printing, NetSurf's print
> > dialogue box is via the menu button.
> So does NetSurf. You're probably using the default toolbar. It is
> trivial to add and remove icons from the toolbar.
> 1. Click Menu over the toolbar
> 2. Select "Edit toolbar"
> A second row of icons appears
> Drag the icons around to arrange the toolbar as suits you
> 3. When you're done, click Menu over the toolbar
> 4. Select "Edit toolbar" again to toggle toolbar customisation mode off
Well.. blow me! ..or something! So it does... doh! :))
Last time I attempted printing from !Netsurf's menu,
it just collapsed in a heap ..following which I was
advised in these august columns, by The Great and The
Good, that printing from !Netsurf didn't work and to
save my pages out as !Drawfiles and use the very
useful !DrawPrint facility to print..
..which very useful app works fine enough although
clearly not as (scaleably) immediate as !Fresco's
'on the button'..
Go on ..tell me that printing was added to/sorted with
!Netsurf many iterations ago and I just didn't think
to look further.. !#;))
It will be a decided advantage for some site pages -
especially when wishing to hardcopy an onsite order
form confirmation.
Thanks, Michael, for the timely reminder... :))
Bill ZFC
> List of all the available icons:
> http://www.netsurf-browser.org/documentation/guide#BrowserWindowToolbar
> Details of Toolbar customisation mode:
> http://www.netsurf-browser.org/documentation/guide#ConfigurationToolbar
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Nick Roberts
"Bill (Adopt)" <ad...@billsimpson.com> wrote:
> In article <31c43ba...@orpheusmail.co.uk>,
> Michael Finlay <mj...@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:
> > In message <50a9392ee3...@argonet.co.uk>
> > Brian Carroll <bric-...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > >> I've just sort-of got out of the habit of tweaking BM, as it
> > >> doesn't support NetSurf, and I can't really afford the time to
> > >> get familiar enough with NetSurf to add the NetSurf-side stuff
> > >> that would allow BM to support it.
>
> > > That's a shame :-(
>
> > > BM was one of my best applications when I was using Fresco a lot
> > > and I do miss it with NetSurf.
>
> > I find it a big miss also
>
> Am I missing something..? :))
Yes.
In particular, you've missed that NetSurf's "Add to Hotlist" and "Show
Hotlist" buttons don't work with BookMaker. While there is a
work-around to allow you to add a page to the hotlist, it's a hack.
You're also missing the fact that if you try to use NetSurf's native
hotlist, it bears no resemblence to what's in BookMaker.
Nick Roberts
Michael Finlay <mj...@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:
Apart from some subtle internal differences, BookMaker treats "Shared"
as meaning (roughly speaking): Use Fresco's hotlist if you can find it;
if you can't find that, use the !Browse hotlist. There are tweaks that
you can do to the configuration file for Fresco, Browse and Oregano 1
so that all these map onto the same file. All these browsers have in
common the fact that the hotlist is stored as HTML, hence they can use
the same file.
If you don't have any of these browsers, BookMaker won't be able to
find a hotlist for "Shared".
Bill (Adopt)
Nick Roberts <tig...@orpheusinternet.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <50a9a17...@billsimpson.com>
> "Bill (Adopt)" <ad...@billsimpson.com> wrote:
> > In article <31c43ba...@orpheusmail.co.uk>,
> > Michael Finlay <mj...@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:
> > > In message <50a9392ee3...@argonet.co.uk>
> > > Brian Carroll <bric-...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
[..]
> > > > BM was one of my best applications when I was using Fresco a lot
> > > > and I do miss it with NetSurf.
> >
> > > I find it a big miss also
> >
> > Am I missing something..? :))
> Yes.
> In particular, you've missed that NetSurf's "Add to Hotlist" and "Show
> Hotlist" buttons don't work with BookMaker. While there is a
> work-around to allow you to add a page to the hotlist, it's a hack.
> You're also missing the fact that if you try to use NetSurf's native
> hotlist, it bears no resemblence to what's in BookMaker.
Of course, Nick.. :))
As I've used !Bookmaker from it's inception, I haven't
acquired the habit of using !Netsurf's or any other
browser's hotlist, native or otherwise.
For me, !Bookmaker works more than well enough with
!Netsurf (inc bodge) or !Fresco, with either
momentarily loaded on the iconbar as needed..
As none of the iterations of !Bookmaker have broken
over the years, I haven't looked too much further
into it, just enjoyed a really useful app thanks to
the author, whomsoever he might be..
..!;))
Bill ZFC
Nick Roberts
Nick Roberts <tig...@orpheusinternet.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <50a8faa...@davenoise.co.uk>
> "Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Love this app - but is there a way of stopping it putting my various
> > folders in alphabetical order within the main list if I do a sort?
>
> Not at present.
>
> > I'd like all my folders at the top of the list in alphabetical order.
> > And regardless of what sorting method I choose they tend to end up
> > scattered around.
>
>
> I could add the feature if you'd like - it shouldn't be particularly
> hard.
>
> I've just sort-of got out of the habit of tweaking BM, as it doesn't
> support NetSurf, and I can't really afford the time to get familiar
> enough with NetSurf to add the NetSurf-side stuff that would allow BM
> to support it.
I took me a bit longer to find the time than I expected, but it's done,
controlled by a new preference item, "Sort books to Top". It can be
found at
http://www.bookmaker.riscos.org/
Chris Shepheard
Nick Roberts <tig...@orpheusinternet.co.uk> wrote:
> I took me a bit longer to find the time than I expected, but it's done,
> controlled by a new preference item, "Sort books to Top". It can be
> found at
>
> http://www.bookmaker.riscos.org/
That needs a .uk on the end:
http://www.bookmaker.riscos.org.uk/
Chris
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Dave Symes
Chris Shepheard <chris.s...@chrispics.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <732dfdb2...@bc63.orpheusinternet.co.uk>
> Nick Roberts <tig...@orpheusinternet.co.uk> wrote:
> > I took me a bit longer to find the time than I expected, but it's done,
> > controlled by a new preference item, "Sort books to Top". It can be
> > found at
> >
> > http://www.bookmaker.riscos.org/
> That needs a .uk on the end:
> http://www.bookmaker.riscos.org.uk/
> Chris
Strange archive as well, downloaded here as data.
Thanks Nick, extra option appreciated.
Dave
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Dave Plowman (News)
Nick Roberts <tig...@orpheusinternet.co.uk> wrote:
> I took me a bit longer to find the time than I expected, but it's done,
> controlled by a new preference item, "Sort books to Top". It can be
> found at
> http://www.bookmaker.riscos.org/
Absolutely brilliant, Nick, thanks. Having collected thousands of
addresses over the years it makes things so much easier to find.
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Chris Johnson
Came down as a spark file here (using Netsurf).
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Dave Symes
It came down here as SABM/spk but the RO file type was Data.
Dave
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Dave Plowman (News)
Dave Symes <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <50b3a022aechr...@spamcop.net>,
> Chris Johnson <chrisjoh...@spamcop.net> wrote:
> > In article <50b391c...@triffid.co.uk>,
> > Dave Symes <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> > > Strange archive as well, downloaded here as data.
> > Came down as a spark file here (using Netsurf).
> It came down here as SABM/spk but the RO file type was Data.
/spk file here in the name with Oregano 1 although the file said text but
dropping it into SparkFS worked just fine.
> Dave
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Chris Johnson
Dave Symes <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <50b3a022aechr...@spamcop.net>,
> Chris Johnson <chrisjoh...@spamcop.net> wrote:
> > In article <50b391c...@triffid.co.uk>,
> > Dave Symes <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> > > Strange archive as well, downloaded here as data.
> > Came down as a spark file here (using Netsurf).
> It came down here as SABM/spk but the RO file type was Data.
Well, Netsurf here correctly set the filetype to Archive, so it may
be a problem with your Mimemap settings.
--
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Dave Symes
Chris Johnson <chrisjoh...@spamcop.net> wrote:
> In article <50b3c4e...@triffid.co.uk>,
> Dave Symes <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <50b3a022aechr...@spamcop.net>,
> > Chris Johnson <chrisjoh...@spamcop.net> wrote:
> > > In article <50b391c...@triffid.co.uk>,
> > > Dave Symes <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > Strange archive as well, downloaded here as data.
> > > Came down as a spark file here (using Netsurf).
> > It came down here as SABM/spk but the RO file type was Data.
> Well, Netsurf here correctly set the filetype to Archive, so it may
> be a problem with your Mimemap settings.
Doubtful as it has a line detailing .spk
I've just been back to Nick's site and downloaded SABM/spk SABMFull/spk
and SABMHelp/spk. They all arrived as DATA.
Dave
Dave
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Frank de Bruijn
Dave Symes <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <50b3d7710dchr...@spamcop.net>,
> Chris Johnson <chrisjoh...@spamcop.net> wrote:
> > In article <50b3c4e...@triffid.co.uk>,
> > Dave Symes <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> > > In article <50b3a022aechr...@spamcop.net>,
> > > Chris Johnson <chrisjoh...@spamcop.net> wrote:
> > > > In article <50b391c...@triffid.co.uk>,
> > > > Dave Symes <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > > Strange archive as well, downloaded here as data.
> > > > Came down as a spark file here (using Netsurf).
> > > It came down here as SABM/spk but the RO file type was Data.
> > Well, Netsurf here correctly set the filetype to Archive, so it may
> > be a problem with your Mimemap settings.
> Doubtful as it has a line detailing .spk
But does it have a line starting with 'application/archive'? That's how
the server announces it in the HTTP-headers.
Regards,
Frank
Alex Cessford
Dave Symes <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <2f648db350.ch...@shepheard.plus.com>,
> Chris Shepheard <chris.s...@chrispics.co.uk> wrote:
>> In message <732dfdb2...@bc63.orpheusinternet.co.uk>
>> Nick Roberts <tig...@orpheusinternet.co.uk> wrote:
>>> I took me a bit longer to find the time than I expected, but it's done,
>>> controlled by a new preference item, "Sort books to Top". It can be
>>> found at
>>>
>>> http://www.bookmaker.riscos.org/
>> That needs a .uk on the end:
>> http://www.bookmaker.riscos.org.uk/
>> Chris
> Strange archive as well, downloaded here as data.
This is something I discovered a good while ago. All you need to do is
select(highlight) the data file, press Ctrl and T, (or menu, SABMFull,
Set Type), clear the word 'data' and type in the word 'archive' then
press Return. That will change it to a zipfile/SparkFile which you can
open in the usual way.
--
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Alan Griffin
<al...@cessford.org.uk> wrote:
> > Strange archive as well, downloaded here as data.
> This is something I discovered a good while ago. All you need to do
> is select(highlight) the data file, press Ctrl and T, (or menu,
> SABMFull, Set Type), clear the word 'data' and type in the word
> 'archive' then press Return. That will change it to a
> zipfile/SparkFile which you can open in the usual way.
Where do I find "Bookmaker"?
Alan Griffin
Peter Campbell-Banks
Alan Griffin <a...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
As stated a couple of posts ago
http:/www.bookmaker.riscos.org.uk
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Dave Plowman (News)
> This is something I discovered a good while ago. All you need to do is
> select(highlight) the data file, press Ctrl and T, (or menu, SABMFull,
> Set Type), clear the word 'data' and type in the word 'archive' then
> press Return. That will change it to a zipfile/SparkFile which you can
> open in the usual way.
Worked here just by dropping it into SparkFS. No need to change anything.
But after having done that the file icon changed from text to archive.
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[Snip]
> > Strange archive as well, downloaded here as data.
> This is something I discovered a good while ago. All you need to do is
> select(highlight) the data file, press Ctrl and T, (or menu, SABMFull,
> Set Type), clear the word 'data' and type in the word 'archive' then
> press Return. That will change it to a zipfile/SparkFile which you can
> open in the usual way.
Blimey that a bit of a performance, I just drag 'n dropped the archive on
the SparkFS icon bar icon.
My fathers brother did the rest.
Dave
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Dave Symes
Frank de Bruijn <zuide...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> In article <50b40f1...@triffid.co.uk>,
> Dave Symes <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
[Snip]
> > Doubtful as it has a line detailing .spk
> But does it have a line starting with 'application/archive'? That's how
> the server announces it in the HTTP-headers.
> Regards,
> Frank
Dunno about that matey...
There's a reference to .spk in the mimemap file, anything else is just
words 'innit.
application/zip Archive ddc .spk
So what you are saying is the person who wrote the mimemap file made a
complete (erection) of it.
# RISC OS Select; 1.07 (15 Mar 2004)
FWIW Frank, I've just modified the Mimemap file to contain...
application/archive Archive ddc .spk
Been to the Bookmaker site and re-downloaded, no different though, still
arrives as "Data"
Dave
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Martin Wuerthner
Dave Symes <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <50b44a0da9...@hotmail.com>,
> Frank de Bruijn <zuide...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> In article <50b40f1...@triffid.co.uk>,
>> Dave Symes <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> [Snip]
>>> Doubtful as it has a line detailing .spk
>> But does it have a line starting with 'application/archive'? That's how
>> the server announces it in the HTTP-headers.
> Dunno about that matey...
> There's a reference to .spk in the mimemap file, anything else is just
> words 'innit.
The other bits are more important in this case. NetSurf will not look
at the .spk at all. The mapping is done based on the Mime type
announced by the server.
> application/zip Archive ddc .spk
> So what you are saying is the person who wrote the mimemap file made a
> complete (erection) of it.
Not at all. Your MimeMap is fine. By definition, it can never contain
everything. For what it is worth, a web server could choose to deliver
a file of type application/dave-symes and nobody's MimeMap would have
a mapping for that. As far as I can see application/archive is not an
officially allocated standard Mime type, so I do not think that it is
a good choice for the server to use that type.
> FWIW Frank, I've just modified the Mimemap file to contain...
> application/archive Archive ddc .spk
> Been to the Bookmaker site and re-downloaded, no different though, still
> arrives as "Data"
That change does not have any effect unless you reboot or issue a
*ReadMimeMap
command. Once you have done that you will see that it will download
with type Archive. Whether it is really worth while modifying one's
MimeMap file to cater for this one server that happens to use that
type is another matter.
Martin
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Nick Roberts
Chris Shepheard <chris.s...@chrispics.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <732dfdb2...@bc63.orpheusinternet.co.uk>
> Nick Roberts <tig...@orpheusinternet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > I took me a bit longer to find the time than I expected, but it's done,
> > controlled by a new preference item, "Sort books to Top". It can be
> > found at
> >
> > http://www.bookmaker.riscos.org/
>
> That needs a .uk on the end:
>
> http://www.bookmaker.riscos.org.uk/
Oops.
Aplogies to anyone who had problems finding it.
At least I got it right in c.s.a.announce.
Dave Symes
Martin Wuerthner <spam...@mw-software.com> wrote:
> In message <50b489c...@triffid.co.uk>
> Dave Symes <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> > FWIW Frank, I've just modified the Mimemap file to contain...
> > application/archive Archive ddc .spk
> > Been to the Bookmaker site and re-downloaded, no different though,
> > still arrives as "Data"
> That change does not have any effect unless you reboot or issue a
> *ReadMimeMap
> command. Once you have done that you will see that it will download
> with type Archive. Whether it is really worth while modifying one's
> MimeMap file to cater for this one server that happens to use that
> type is another matter.
> Martin
Aha! That was the clincher *ReadMimeMap
Previously I'd just quit NetSurf, assuming when I re-ran it, it'd re-read
the Mimemap file.
Now downloads as Archive filetype.
Thanks for the pointer.
Dave
I often insert additional lines in the Mimemap file when needed.
D.
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Chris Shepheard
Nick Roberts <tig...@orpheusinternet.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <2f648db350.ch...@shepheard.plus.com>
> Chris Shepheard <chris.s...@chrispics.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> In message <732dfdb2...@bc63.orpheusinternet.co.uk>
>> Nick Roberts <tig...@orpheusinternet.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> > I took me a bit longer to find the time than I expected, but it's done,
>> > controlled by a new preference item, "Sort books to Top". It can be
>> > found at
>> >
>> > http://www.bookmaker.riscos.org/
>>
>> That needs a .uk on the end:
>>
>> http://www.bookmaker.riscos.org.uk/
>
> Oops.
>
> Aplogies to anyone who had problems finding it.
> At least I got it right in c.s.a.announce.
No problem Nick.
It's great to see that such a good piece of software is still being
maintained.
Many thanks,
Alan Griffin
> As stated a couple of posts ago
> http:/www.bookmaker.riscos.org.uk
No. I meant where on my RISC PC do I find Bookmaker! Sorry!
Alan Griffin
Steve Fryatt
> Aha! That was the clincher *ReadMimeMap Previously I'd just quit NetSurf,
> assuming when I re-ran it, it'd re-read the Mimemap file.
No, NetSurf (along with any other sensible apps that need to convert between
MIME types, file extensions or file types) asks the MimeMap module, which in
turn handles the MimeMap file for them.
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Steve Fryatt
> No. I meant where on my RISC PC do I find Bookmaker!
Wherever you put it?
Dave Higton
Alan Griffin <a...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
On your hard drive. See, it's that little group of magnetic domains
over... there...
Dave
Dave Plowman (News)
> > http:/www.bookmaker.riscos.org.uk
Since you're using an Argonet address still I'd guess it's a VIX inside
Voyager. There is a version for updating that.
I still use Voyager as a convenient toolbar for this sort of app. Bit
like a comfort blanket. ;-)
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Frank de Bruijn
> Not at all. Your MimeMap is fine. By definition, it can never contain
> everything. For what it is worth, a web server could choose to deliver
> a file of type application/dave-symes and nobody's MimeMap would have
> a mapping for that. As far as I can see application/archive is not an
> officially allocated standard Mime type, so I do not think that it is
> a good choice for the server to use that type.
It isn't. I just added this to my version of the MimeMap file because
some servers appeared to use it.
> That change does not have any effect unless you reboot or issue a
> *ReadMimeMap
> command. Once you have done that you will see that it will download
> with type Archive. Whether it is really worth while modifying one's
> MimeMap file to cater for this one server that happens to use that
> type is another matter.
Well, there's at least one other that uses it. Can't remember which one,
though.
Regards,
Frank