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 More options Feb 22, 6:39 am
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Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:39:36 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Feb 22 2008 6:39 am
Subject: Gates' subversiveness now apparently extends into medicine
A recent article suggests Gates is now trying to dominate the research
community and get the work of his "foundation" translated into
government policy - hence once again seeking political leverage.

What is it with this man and people like him? They can't co-exist,
they have to seek ascendancy over everyone else-  success itself never
being enough reward in itself - have to dominate and under the guise
of competition trample on anything else regardless. Aside from giving
competition a bad name, this appears to be the same old ruthless
megalomaniac tactics with a moral smokescreen. Nothing i can think of
would be a greater victory against this than a resurgent Acorn/RISC OS
platform.

Andrew


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 More options Feb 22, 6:40 am
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Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:40:01 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Gates' subversiveness now apparently extends into medicine
On 22 Feb, 11:39, groups...@googlemail.com wrote:

> A recent article suggests Gates is now trying to dominate the research
> community and get the work of his "foundation" translated into
> government policy - hence once again seeking political leverage.

> What is it with this man and people like him? They can't co-exist,
> they have to seek ascendancy over everyone else-  success itself never
> being enough reward in itself - have to dominate and under the guise
> of competition trample on anything else regardless. Aside from giving
> competition a bad name, this appears to be the same old ruthless
> megalomaniac tactics with a moral smokescreen. Nothing i can think of
> would be a greater victory against this than a resurgent Acorn/RISC OS
> platform.

> Andrew

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/02/17/america/gates.php

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 More options Feb 22, 6:54 am
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From: John M Ward <j...@acornusers.org>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:54:57 GMT
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Subject: Re: Gates' subversiveness now apparently extends into medicine
In article

<e7020261-0643-4701-b142-113f271a6...@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, <groups...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On 22 Feb, 11:39, groups...@googlemail.com wrote:
> A recent article suggests Gates is now trying to dominate the
> research community and get the work of his "foundation" translated
> into government policy - hence once again seeking political
> leverage.

I see one of those cases of the taste of power and influence, and its
usual warping and twisting effect on those ill-equipped to handle it...

> What is it with this man and people like him? They can't co-exist,
> they have to seek ascendancy over everyone else-  success itself
> never being enough reward in itself - have to dominate and under
> the guise of competition trample on anything else regardless.

This seems to be the usual result of circumstances such as Gates',
especially in the "Land of the Free".

> Aside from giving competition a bad name, this appears to be the
> same old ruthless megalomaniac tactics with a moral smokescreen.
> Nothing i can think of would be a greater victory against this than
> a resurgent Acorn/RISC OS platform.

The danger there is that, during such a resurgence, our small collection
of enterprises would be once again seen as a target and squashed.

More subtle moves such as getting far more ARM processors into use than
Intel-style CPUs around the world have been successful, but a head-on
attack directly in the face of Microsoft (and all those who ride its
coat-tails, let's not forget) would effectively be suicide for us.

The work that Acorn did with Oracle was the right idea in another area,
but that looked precarious from the outset.  Anything created in Britain
carries a "Not Invented Here" tag as far as the huge American market is
concerned.  The best markets to tackle would be the up-and-coming Indian
and Chinese ones, especially as the latter probably doesn't favour
American products and designs for ideological reasons.  Brazil and
Russia are the other two developing big markets.

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Now using an Iyonix, an A9home, 2 RiscPCs and Virtual-RPC!
Acorn/RISC OS web page: www.john-ward.org.uk/personal/john/computers


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 More options Feb 22, 2:12 pm
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From: Jeremy C B Nicoll <jer...@omba.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:12:08 +0000
Local: Fri, Feb 22 2008 2:12 pm
Subject: Re: Gates' subversiveness now apparently extends into medicine

Paul Vigay <invalid-email-addr...@invalid-domain.co.uk> wrote:
> A far scarier thing is his involvement with a top secret 'seed' bank up
> near the Arctic circle in Sweden. With other investors such as Monsanto,
> it makes you wonder why Gates is helping to control the world supply of
> organic grain....

> ...even more off-topic for this newsgroup!!

Maybe not... isn't an acorn a seed?

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 More options Feb 25, 1:48 pm
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Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 10:48:12 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Gates' subversiveness now apparently extends into medicine
In message <4f75194a2fj...@acornusers.org>
          John M Ward <j...@acornusers.org> wrote:

I don't follow or see how would a collection of companies,
individuals, collectives be "squashed". The beauty of having a set of
bodies working on RISC OS is that it's a dynamic, diverse talent base.

> More subtle moves such as getting far more ARM processors into use than
> Intel-style CPUs around the world have been successful, but a head-on
> attack directly in the face of Microsoft (and all those who ride its
> coat-tails, let's not forget) would effectively be suicide for us.

So ARM hasn't been squashed. Nobody's suggesting head-on attacks. Let
Gates play his world-domination game. The very existence of
alternatives whilst to anybody else would seem to be a good thing
would seem to to be his torment.

> The work that Acorn did with Oracle was the right idea in another area,
> but that looked precarious from the outset.  Anything created in Britain
> carries a "Not Invented Here" tag as far as the huge American market is
> concerned.  The best markets to tackle would be the up-and-coming Indian
> and Chinese ones, especially as the latter probably doesn't favour
> American products and designs for ideological reasons.  Brazil and
> Russia are the other two developing big markets.

Strength and depth in the UK would be a good start.

Andrew

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