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Message from discussion Have *YOU* ever written a program which COULDN'T be proven correct?
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Mark Runyan  
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 More options Jan 24 1990, 5:26 pm
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
From: run...@hpirs.HP.COM (Mark Runyan)
Date: 24 Jan 90 22:26:42 GMT
Local: Wed, Jan 24 1990 5:26 pm
Subject: Re: Have *YOU* ever written a program which COULDN'T be proven correct?
I hate stepping in sticky piles of whatever...

>>I've been trying to follow this string, remembering those days in college
>>when the instructor indicated that program proof of correctness ...

Note the term I used, "proof of correctness"...

>Indeed, I doubt *ANYONE* on the entire net has *EVER* written a
>real-life program which couldn't in theory be verified.  We all (well,
>except for a few of those who posted earlier) know that finding a
>decision procedure for the predicate calculus (called the
>"Entscheidungsproblem" and "Hilbert's Program" in various places) is
>impossible, and therefore the halting problem and program verification
>are undecidable.

There is a difference (perhaps only in *my* mind) between using the
predicate calculus proof of correctness and program verification.  If
we call code inspections and regression testing "proofs", then, I do
prove my programs.  I was under the mistaken expression that someone
was using an automated proof assistant.  My apologies to netters for
stepping into an argument where I didn't share the same understanding
of the terms.

Mark Runyan


 
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