SPSS v. 16 Rounding Stats in Frequencies Command

[marybet...@gmail.com]

Hi All,

Just upgraded to version 16, and would like to see if others are
experiencing this.

Try running frequencies and request the mean (no other stats). Does it
round the mean? Mine does.

Try requesting mean and SD. Mine still rounds.

Now add something else -- try requesting mean, SD, and skewness. Mine
now gives the decimals.

I'm curious what others are experiencing.

Thanks!

Kindly,

Mary

[Bruce Weaver]

On Jan 18, 1:52 pm, "marybetholi...@gmail.com"

I am not seeing that. I used an Age variable (years in whole
numbers), and get a mean to 2 decimals in all cases.

Just curious...have you applied the 16.0.1 patch and the two hotfix
patches?

--
Bruce Weaver
bwe...@lakeheadu.ca
www.angelfire.com/wv/bwhomedir
"When all else fails, RTFM."

[marybet...@gmail.com]

> bwea...@lakeheadu.cawww.angelfire.com/wv/bwhomedir

> "When all else fails, RTFM."

Hi Bruce,

Thanks for trying. This is truly odd. I have applied the patch.
Further, I'm able to replicate this on several colleagues' machines.
We're all on XP, we've upgraded, etc. Further, it happens on data
files created in older versions, in files created in version 15, and
in files created in version 16. Hmmm....

Anybody else out there experiencing this?

Best,

Mary

[Art Kendall]

Can you make up a minimal demonstration set of syntax that shows the
problem? Something like the syntax below the sig block.

There is example syntax below the sig block. It gives 9.20 for the mean
all three times on my machine.

Save all your current work, then open a new instance of SPSS. Make sure
that you put warnings, etc. into the output file. <edit> <options>
<viewer>. Cut-and-paste then run the syntax.

Art Kendall
Social Research Consultants

data list list/id(f2) x(f2).
begin data
1 12
2 17
3 5
4 6
5 6
end data.
frequencies vars=x /statistics= mean.
frequencies vars=x /statistics= mean stddev.
frequencies vars=x /statistics= mean stddev skewness.

[JKPeck]

> bwea...@lakeheadu.cawww.angelfire.com/wv/bwhomedir

> "When all else fails, RTFM."

I don't see that behavior, but it may be worth explaining the
formatting rules that SPSS uses.
The format of a statistic for a variable is based on the variable's
own format. For the mean of a standard numeric variable, the
statistic format will have the number of decimals in the variable's
format plus 2. (Dates get a different treatment.) Other types of
statistic have similar formatting rules - some such as coefficients in
a regression do not depend on the variable's format.

HTH,
Jon Peck

[marybet...@gmail.com]

Hi All Again,

Ahhh....FINALLY. I had installed the latest patch, but not the
hotfixes. Doing that solved the problem. Oddly, the hotfixes don't say
anything about this particular problem, so perhaps it a side-effect...
Who knows.

In the meantime, the formatting for the decimals, column widths, etc.,
in the variable view had no impact whatsoever on the issue.

So now.... to get all of the university computer labs equipped with
all of the patches/hotfixes...

Thanks all.

Mary