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Jeanne Douglas

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May 22, 2013, 9:33:00 PM5/22/13
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In article <c8fqp8pjb292p4j72...@4ax.com>,
Brother Love <BrotherLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> If anyone still doubts that athiests are evil, let them read this
> latest report about Dawkins, the paintron saint of athiesm.
>
> http://www.creationstudies.org/Education/richard-dawkins-abortion-tweet-.html
>
> By now, most people have heard of the world famous atheist Richard
> Dawkins. For someone whose area of expertise is supposed to be
> biology, Dr. Dawkins has become a very vocal proponent of atheism. He
> takes pride in his unflattering descriptions of the God of the Bible.
> He is actually gleeful when he has an opportunity to repeat his
> demeaning characterization of the God of Israel as noted in his
> interview with Ben Stein. This conversation is on display for all to
> see in the documentary “Expelled” (Miller, Stein & Ruloff, 2008). In
> addition to his anti-Jehovah diatribes, Dawkins is known for his
> caustic wit and his insulting characterizations that reflect poorly on
> all people of faith. He seems especially focused on Jews and
> Christians, being on record concerning his apparent dislike for the
> God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, a supreme Deity in whom he claims
> not to believe.


Where's the evil?

--

JD

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Jeanne Douglas

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May 22, 2013, 11:29:34 PM5/22/13
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In article <3ruqp8hnbkmubu2a0...@4ax.com>,
Brother Love <BrotherLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Do you deny that declaring pigs superier to humans is evil? Do you?

No.

But, of course, he did no such thing.

kni...@baawa.com

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May 22, 2013, 11:38:08 PM5/22/13
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On Wed, 22 May 2013 17:50:47 -0400, Brother Love
<BrotherLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>If anyone still doubts that athiests are evil, let them read this
>latest report about Dawkins, the paintron saint of athiesm.
>
If anyone doubts christian preachers are bags of shit, go to this
page and watch Ray Comfort. (Youtube video)
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/05/22/ray-comfort-must-think-lying-for-jesus-is-okay/


Warlord Steve
BAAWA

casey

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May 22, 2013, 11:44:17 PM5/22/13
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On 22 May, 14:50, Brother Love <BrotherLove4TheL...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> If anyone still doubts that athiests are evil, let them read this
> latest report about Dawkins, the paintron saint of athiesm.

Without commenting on Dawkin's tweet as I don't know
the context I would point out that you cannot assign the
view of one atheist as being the view of another atheist
as that would be dishonest and being a good Christian
you are I assume honest?

Not being able to find evidence that something exists
doesn't turn you into something evil.




calvin

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May 23, 2013, 12:28:24 AM5/23/13
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No, but trying to stop all opposition to abortion on demand
up until the moment of birth by tweeting nonsense gives
off an evil smell.

SkyEyes

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May 23, 2013, 1:27:29 AM5/23/13
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On May 22, 2:50 pm, Brother Love <BrotherLove4TheL...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> If anyone still doubts that athiests are evil, let them read this
> latest report about Dawkins, the paintron saint of athiesm.
>
> http://www.creationstudies.org/Education/richard-dawkins-abortion-twe...

He doesn't claim that fetuses are less "human" than pigs, he claims
their less *sentient* than pigs. And he's right. Pigs are
intelligent, conscious, sentient beings. Embryos and fetuses are
*not*. The nervous system isn't hooked up and operating until birth,
for very good reason: birth hurts.

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SkyEyes

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May 23, 2013, 1:28:04 AM5/23/13
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On May 22, 7:14 pm, Brother Love <BrotherLove4TheL...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On Wed, 22 May 2013 18:33:00 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> >In article <c8fqp8pjb292p4j72p6ouh4tqbfl7n9...@4ax.com>,
> > Brother Love <BrotherLove4TheL...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> If anyone still doubts that athiests are evil, let them read this
> >> latest report about Dawkins, the paintron saint of athiesm.
>
> >>http://www.creationstudies.org/Education/richard-dawkins-abortion-twe...
>
> >> By now, most people have heard of the world famous atheist Richard
> >> Dawkins. For someone whose area of expertise is supposed to be
> >> biology, Dr. Dawkins has become a very vocal proponent of atheism. He
> >> takes pride in his unflattering descriptions of the God of the Bible.
> >> He is actually gleeful when he has an opportunity to repeat his
> >> demeaning characterization of the God of Israel as noted in his
> >> interview with Ben Stein. This conversation is on display for all to
> >> see in the documentary “Expelled” (Miller, Stein & Ruloff, 2008). In
> >> addition to his anti-Jehovah diatribes, Dawkins is known for his
> >> caustic wit and his insulting characterizations that reflect poorly on
> >> all people of faith. He seems especially focused on Jews and
> >> Christians, being on record concerning his apparent dislike for the
> >> God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, a supreme Deity in whom he claims
> >> not to believe.
>
> >Where's the evil?
>
> Do you deny that declaring pigs superier to humans is evil? Do you?

That's not what Dawkins says, so you can stop lying about him.

SkyEyes

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May 23, 2013, 1:30:10 AM5/23/13
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We don't have abortion on demand up until the moment of birth. The
USSC has said we have abortion on demand BEFORE VIABILITY, which
occurs somewhere around weeks 24-26. After that, abortions are only
performed to save the life and health of the mother or because there's
something horribly wrong with the fetus that was undetectable before
viability.

It would be better if you got your facts straight before you spout
off.

Jason

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May 23, 2013, 3:32:49 AM5/23/13
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In article
<fcfdb9e0-d806-4923...@qz2g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
SkyEyes <skye...@cox.net> wrote:

> On May 22, 9:28=A0pm, calvin <cri...@windstream.net> wrote:
Have any fetuses been murdered by an abortion doctor as they were being born?


Alex W.

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May 23, 2013, 4:58:21 AM5/23/13
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On Thu, 23 May 2013 00:32:49 -0700, Jason wrote:


> Have any fetuses been murdered by an abortion doctor as they were being born?

No, by that stage the abortion doctors usually wait for a
few days until they can use the babies for their Black Mass
ritual sacrifice and roast-baby dinner.


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calvin

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May 23, 2013, 9:17:34 AM5/23/13
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On May 23, 1:30 am, SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net> wrote:
> On May 22, 9:28 pm, calvin <cri...@windstream.net> wrote:
> > On May 22, 11:44 pm, casey <jgkjca...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> > > On 22 May, 14:50, Brother Love <BrotherLove4TheL...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > If anyone still doubts that athiests are evil, let them read this
> > > > latest report about Dawkins, the paintron saint of athiesm.
>
> > > Without commenting on Dawkin's tweet as I don't know
> > > the context I would point out that you cannot assign the
> > > view of one atheist as being the view of another atheist
> > > as that would be dishonest and being a good Christian
> > > you are I assume honest?
>
> > > Not being able to find evidence that something exists
> > > doesn't turn you into something evil.
>
> > No, but trying to stop all opposition to abortion on demand
> > up until the moment of birth by tweeting nonsense gives
> > off an evil smell.
>
> We don't have abortion on demand up until the moment of birth.  The
> USSC has said we have abortion on demand BEFORE VIABILITY, which
> occurs somewhere around weeks 24-26.  After that, abortions are only
> performed to save the life and health of the mother or because there's
> something horribly wrong with the fetus that was undetectable before
> viability.
>
> It would be better if you got your facts straight before you spout
> off.

Gosnell, and another case that came to light
even more recently. Get your facts straight.
In the past there was Tiller. Probably there are
hundreds of late term abortionists, and if the
Dawkins tweet is accurately reported, then he
is doing his best to enable them.

MarkA

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May 23, 2013, 12:30:13 PM5/23/13
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On Thu, 23 May 2013 07:57:17 -0400, Brother Love wrote:

> On Wed, 22 May 2013 22:27:29 -0700 (PDT), SkyEyes <skye...@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>>On May 22, 2:50�pm, Brother Love <BrotherLove4TheL...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> If anyone still doubts that athiests are evil, let them read this
>>> latest report about Dawkins, the paintron saint of athiesm.
>>>
>>> http://www.creationstudies.org/Education/richard-dawkins-abortion-twe...
>>
>>He doesn't claim that fetuses are less "human" than pigs, he claims
>>their less *sentient* than pigs. And he's right. Pigs are intelligent,
>>conscious, sentient beings. Embryos and fetuses are *not*. The nervous
>>system isn't hooked up and operating until birth, for very good reason:
>>birth hurts.
>>
>>
> People who defend Dawkins makes me sick.
>
> Always remember: Jesus love's you and so do I! Yes! Each and every one of
> you!

That's pretty much how I feel about people who have to lie to make their
point. You call Dawkins' description of God "unflattering". Dawkins is
quoting the Bible; he didn't write it, he's only reading it. Which,
apparently, many Christians fail to do.

--
MarkA
Keeper of Things Put There Only Just The Night Before
About eight o'clock

MarkA

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May 23, 2013, 12:35:35 PM5/23/13
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On Thu, 23 May 2013 00:32:49 -0700, Jason wrote:

No. By the legal definition of "murder", it doesn't apply to fetuses.

MarkA

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May 23, 2013, 12:42:40 PM5/23/13
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On Thu, 23 May 2013 07:54:06 -0400, Brother Love wrote:

> On Wed, 22 May 2013 20:29:34 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
> READ THE ARTICLE! Yes he did.

I did READ THE ARTICLE. And, no, Dawkins never says that pigs are
superior to humans. In fact, he is, as usual, EXTREMELY PRECISE in his
use of language: he specifies that he is discussing the aspects of
humanness that are "relevant to the morality of abortion".

Uncle Vic

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May 23, 2013, 4:40:08 PM5/23/13
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Brother Love <BrotherLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:0q0sp8h7bgvmljtde...@4ax.com:

> On Wed, 22 May 2013 20:29:34 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
> READ THE ARTICLE! Yes he did.
>

Creation Studies .org?

Fuck you Brother Sperm.

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Jeanne Douglas

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May 23, 2013, 5:15:29 PM5/23/13
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In article <a01sp8lb31kip12e2...@4ax.com>,
Brother Love <BrotherLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 22 May 2013 22:27:29 -0700 (PDT), SkyEyes <skye...@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
> >On May 22, 2:50 pm, Brother Love <BrotherLove4TheL...@yahoo.com>
> >wrote:
> >> If anyone still doubts that athiests are evil, let them read this
> >> latest report about Dawkins, the paintron saint of athiesm.
> >>
> >> http://www.creationstudies.org/Education/richard-dawkins-abortion-twe...
> >
> >He doesn't claim that fetuses are less "human" than pigs, he claims
> >their less *sentient* than pigs. And he's right. Pigs are
> >intelligent, conscious, sentient beings. Embryos and fetuses are
> >*not*. The nervous system isn't hooked up and operating until birth,
> >for very good reason: birth hurts.
> >
>
> People who defend Dawkins makes me sick.

Why?

And who FOLLOWS Dawkins?

Jeanne Douglas

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May 23, 2013, 5:15:59 PM5/23/13
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In article <ot0sp8d4q6btjg5u2...@4ax.com>,
Brother Love <BrotherLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> That just prooves that athiests are no good.

Not according to the Pope.

Jeanne Douglas

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May 23, 2013, 5:16:21 PM5/23/13
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In article <0q0sp8h7bgvmljtde...@4ax.com>,
Brother Love <BrotherLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 22 May 2013 20:29:34 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
> READ THE ARTICLE! Yes he did.

I'm not responsible for your reading comprehension problems.

He said no such thing.

Free Lunch

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On Thu, 23 May 2013 09:58:21 +0100, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote
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Modestly proposed.
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Jeanne Douglas

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May 24, 2013, 12:12:15 AM5/24/13
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In article <skdtp816bu6gm1ov0...@4ax.com>,
Brother Love <BrotherLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dawkins is the athiest paintron saint.

According to whom?

Metspitzer

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May 24, 2013, 12:31:37 AM5/24/13
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On Thu, 23 May 2013 21:12:15 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
<hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

>In article <skdtp816bu6gm1ov0...@4ax.com>,
> Brother Love <BrotherLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 23 May 2013 14:15:29 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
>> <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <a01sp8lb31kip12e2...@4ax.com>,
>> > Brother Love <BrotherLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, 22 May 2013 22:27:29 -0700 (PDT), SkyEyes <skye...@cox.net>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On May 22, 2:50�pm, Brother Love <BrotherLove4TheL...@yahoo.com>
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >> If anyone still doubts that athiests are evil, let them read this
>> >> >> latest report about Dawkins, the paintron saint of athiesm.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://www.creationstudies.org/Education/richard-dawkins-abortion-twe...
>> >> >
>> >> >He doesn't claim that fetuses are less "human" than pigs, he claims
>> >> >their less *sentient* than pigs. And he's right. Pigs are
>> >> >intelligent, conscious, sentient beings. Embryos and fetuses are
>> >> >*not*. The nervous system isn't hooked up and operating until birth,
>> >> >for very good reason: birth hurts.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> People who defend Dawkins makes me sick.
>> >
>> >Why?
>> >
>> >And who FOLLOWS Dawkins?
>>
>> Dawkins is the athiest paintron saint.
>
>According to whom?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc5JXbyw1C0

Jeanne Douglas

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May 24, 2013, 1:05:07 AM5/24/13
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In article <u8rtp8phdeb2218as...@4ax.com>,
How is that an answer to my question?

SkyEyes

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May 24, 2013, 1:34:43 AM5/24/13
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Gosnell was a horrible aberration caused by women not having early-
term termination choices.

And what other case are you alluding to that came to light more
recently? Either quote the case, or don't mention it.

>  Get your facts straight.
> In the past there was Tiller.

Tiller only did late term abortions on women where the pregnancy
threatened the woman's life, or where there was something horribly
wrong with the fetus that they couldn't diagnose earlier in
pregnancy. Tiller operated *entirely* within the bounds of the law,
and provided a service that women desperately needed.

>  Probably there are
> hundreds of late term abortionists,

Actually, George Tiller was one of about 3 in the U.S. who did late-
term abortions. It's quite an uncommon service, thanks to you
dipshits who don't realize that they are sometimes needed
desperately. No woman decides to have a late-term abortion for any
reason other than to save her own life, or because the fetus has
horrible problems that would mean it couldn't survive for a
significant period of time outside the womb. In such cases, it's far
better to terminate while the woman is still healthy - pregnancy is
very taxing on the female body - and allow the woman to try again for
a healthy pregnancy.

> and if the
> Dawkins tweet is accurately reported, then he
> is doing his best to enable them.

You're so full of shit your eyes are brown.

SkyEyes

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May 24, 2013, 1:36:08 AM5/24/13
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On May 23, 4:57 am, Brother Love <BrotherLove4TheL...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On Wed, 22 May 2013 22:27:29 -0700 (PDT), SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
> >On May 22, 2:50 pm, Brother Love <BrotherLove4TheL...@yahoo.com>
> >wrote:
> >> If anyone still doubts that athiests are evil, let them read this
> >> latest report about Dawkins, the paintron saint of athiesm.
>
> >>http://www.creationstudies.org/Education/richard-dawkins-abortion-twe...
>
> >He doesn't claim that fetuses are less "human" than pigs,  he claims
> >their less *sentient* than pigs.  And he's right.  Pigs are
> >intelligent, conscious, sentient beings.  Embryos and fetuses are
> >*not*.  The nervous system isn't hooked up and operating until birth,
> >for very good reason:  birth hurts.
>
> People who defend Dawkins makes me sick.

You don't know a single fucking thing about Dawkins. He's one of the
great minds of our time.
>
> Always remember: Jesus love's you and so do I!
> Yes! Each and every one of you!

If you're a christian, I don't want to be one. I don't want to be
*anything* like you.

harry k

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May 24, 2013, 9:54:18 AM5/24/13
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On May 22, 2:50 pm, Brother Love <BrotherLove4TheL...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> If anyone still doubts that athiests are evil, let them read this
> latest report about Dawkins, the paintron saint of athiesm.
>
> http://www.creationstudies.org/Education/richard-dawkins-abortion-twe...
>
> By now, most people have heard of the world famous atheist Richard
> Dawkins. For someone whose area of expertise is supposed to be
> biology, Dr. Dawkins has become a very vocal proponent of atheism. He
> takes pride in his unflattering descriptions of the God of the Bible.
> He is actually gleeful when he has an opportunity to repeat his
> demeaning characterization of the God of Israel as noted in his
> interview with Ben Stein. This conversation is on display for all to
> see in the documentary “Expelled” (Miller, Stein & Ruloff, 2008). In
> addition to his anti-Jehovah diatribes, Dawkins is known for his
> caustic wit and his insulting characterizations that reflect poorly on
> all people of faith. He seems especially focused on Jews and
> Christians, being on record concerning his apparent dislike for the
> God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, a supreme Deity in whom he claims
> not to believe.
>
> Always remember: Jesus love's you and so do I!
> Yes! Each and every one of you!

Sorry Zachy, but any link that begins with "creation studies" is a lie
on the face of it and we know that anything you write about it will be
a further lie.

Harry K

WrongWayWade

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May 24, 2013, 3:43:48 PM5/24/13
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Brother Love wrote:
> On Wed, 22 May 2013 20:38:08 -0700, kni...@baawa.com wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 22 May 2013 17:50:47 -0400, Brother Love
>> <BrotherLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> If anyone still doubts that athiests are evil, let them read this
>>> latest report about Dawkins, the paintron saint of athiesm.
>>>
>> If anyone doubts christian preachers are bags of shit, go to this
>> page and watch Ray Comfort. (Youtube video)
>> http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/05/22/ray-comfort-must-think-lying-for-jesus-is-okay/
>>
>>
>
>
> That just prooves that athiests are no good.
>
>
> Always remember: Jesus love's you and so do I!

Just remember, Jesus loves you; everyone else thinks you're an asshole.


WrongWayWade

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May 24, 2013, 3:52:16 PM5/24/13
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Brother Love wrote:
> Dawkins is the athiest paintron saint.

Paintron saint. I'll have to remember that one. TMML

You'd think a religious nut would at least get his religious terminology
right.



Free Lunch

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Shouldn't it be Patr�n. En tequila es verda.
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