Scilab Debugger

[David K]

Hi folks,

does anyone have the latest on the status of the debugger window in Scipad ?
The link below suggests it has been 'unplugged' because of code
reorganisation but there is no date on the release

Scilab 5.1.1 Release Notes
http://www.scilab.org/download/index_download.php?page=5.1.1

Also, can someone say what development environment they are using that
allows code completion of Scilab objects and is there an object map around ?

thanks and regards

David

[Francois Vogel]

David K said on 17/10/2009 07:02:

> does anyone have the latest on the status of the debugger window in Scipad ?
> The link below suggests it has been 'unplugged' because of code
> reorganisation but there is no date on the release

You'll never have it again in Scilab 5.

Check out this interesting thread and references therein (this is 6
months old but I have nothing to change in what I said at this time).

The latest news is that the opteam has now developed this new editor
("xpad") in Java, and kicked out Scipad from Scilab (but you might get
it with ATOMS). In its current development state my opinion is that
xpad is just not a usable tool due to very basic bugs and flaws.

Also, xpad does not feature a debugger. Again, what I stated 6 months
ago in the above thread is still my opinion:
"Scicoslab is the only maintained environment featuring the debugger.
Scicoslab-4.3 provides a reasonably recent version of Scipad (7.4.BP3
- 20/09/08) that includes all the latest major improvements of the
debugger (e.g. conditional breakpoints). If you want the debugger I
don't see any other possible choice."

Good luck.
Francois

[Francois Vogel]

Francois Vogel said on 17/10/2009 13:34:

> Check out this interesting thread and references therein (this is 6
> months old but I have nothing to change in what I said at this time).

This one, sorry:

http://groups.google.fr/group/comp.soft-sys.math.scilab/browse_thread/thread/61c6aee409eec789/ac0621f4cbb7b489?hl=fr&lnk=gst&q=debugger+never#ac0621f4cbb7b489

Francois

[David K]

Thanks Francois,
as a new user I think I will fall back to the verson that has conditional
break points and watch variables etc. And is there a (UML)
object map for Scilab ?

regards

David

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[Tim Wescott]

Is there a "Scilab has no debugger" bug? Does the Scilab bugbase have a
"vote for this bug" feature (OpenOffice has this).

I don't particularly care if the debugger is in Scipad or in its own
window or what (in fact, I'd just as soon they figure out how to
integrate Scilab with Eclipse for debugging). But debugging would be
awfully nice.

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[Francois Vogel]

Tim Wescott said on 18/10/2009 02:26:

> Is there a "Scilab has no debugger" bug?

Hmm, not exactly. It has a "Scipad debugger is broken" bug (#2789):

http://bugzilla.scilab.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2789

This bug has just been tagged this week with "Fix_me_for_Scilab_5.2"
tag. I'm wondering how it will be fixed in Scilab 5.2 (that is
supposed to be released in October this year).

Feel free to comment in bug 2789, or to open a new bug if you think
it's appropriate.

> Does the Scilab bugbase have a
> "vote for this bug" feature (OpenOffice has this).

My understanding is that the Bugzilla software is featuring votes but
that this feature is not enabled in the Bugzilla configuration that is
specific to Scilab.

I have asked that question about voting for bugs a long time ago in
the developers mailing list, see the discussion here:

http://lists.scilab.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm-browse?list=dev&cmd=showmsg&msgnum=370

Francois

[Francois Vogel]

David K said on 17/10/2009 20:57:

> Thanks Francois,
> as a new user I think I will fall back to the verson that has conditional
> break points and watch variables etc.

I understand your choice, here is the link:

http://www.scicoslab.org/

> And is there a (UML) object map for Scilab ?

I'm not aware of this, sorry, but I'm interested by the answer as well.

Francois

[David K]

Merci bien Francois

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[Tim Wescott]

Were there not plans afoot to replace Scipad with an entirely different
IDE? What's the status of that effort? Is there a bug associated with
_that_?

(I'm in a 'rock the boat' mood today: I want to get on that bug's page
and point out that Eclipse is a really nifty IDE that lots of people are
already familiar with and like, and that rather than reinventing the
wheel perhaps it would make more sense to give Scilab an Eclipse-
compatible debugging interface.)

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[Francois Vogel]

"Tim Wescott" <t...@seemywebsite.com> a �crit dans le message de news:
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>
> Were there not plans afoot to replace Scipad with an entirely different
> IDE? What's the status of that effort? Is there a bug associated with
> _that_?

I think the status of the development of the opteam's replacement for xpad
is reflected in the bugzilla. Check it against the "Text Editor" (aka Xpad)
item:

All bugs:
http://bugzilla.scilab.org/buglist.cgi?&component=Text+Editor

All open bugs:
http://bugzilla.scilab.org/buglist.cgi?&component=Text+Editor&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED

Browsing through this list will quickly convince you that this piece of code
is just not usable, at least for the time being. Fortunately they did not
release it to the wild.

> (I'm in a 'rock the boat' mood today:

How funny, I've just seen this movie "The boat that rocked"!

> I want to get on that bug's page
> and point out that Eclipse is a really nifty IDE that lots of people are
> already familiar with and like, and that rather than reinventing the
> wheel perhaps it would make more sense to give Scilab an Eclipse-
> compatible debugging interface.)

I know no word from the opteam about any plans for having again a debugger,
be it in Eclipse or not. Where is the roadmap again?? ;-)

Francois