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Prospects for a scilab package on fedora

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Steve

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Sep 17, 2009, 4:14:56 AM9/17/09
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Now that there are packages for ubuntu and some of the other
distributions I was wondering what the prospects are for a package for
Fedora. Bugzilla seems to suggest that there were problems with some
of the dependencies although there doesn't seem to have been much
progress for awhile. Any news would be gratefully appreciated.

Regards,
Steve

Leland C. Scott

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Sep 17, 2009, 5:51:52 PM9/17/09
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I've downloaded the binary RPM for Linux. The RPM installed OK on several of
my Fedora boxes running different versions from 8 to 10 OK.

73's

Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO

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RRogers

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Sep 18, 2009, 10:26:37 AM9/18/09
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On Sep 17, 4:51 pm, "Leland C. Scott" <kc8...@arrl.net> wrote:
> I've downloaded the binary RPM for Linux. The RPM installed OK on several of
> my Fedora boxes running different versions from 8 to 10 OK.
>
> 73's
>
> Leland C. Scott
> KC8LDO
>
> "Steve" <steve.j.wil...@googlemail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:bf4842e5-9e5e-4074...@o21g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Now that there are packages for ubuntu and some of the other
> > distributions I was wondering what the prospects are for a package for
> > Fedora. Bugzilla seems to suggest that there were problems with some
> > of the dependencies although there doesn't seem to have been much
> > progress for awhile. Any news would be gratefully appreciated.
>
> > Regards,
> > Steve

I tried 5.1.X (?) sometime ago on Fedora 9 and it ran okay except for
the sound demo. I don't recall any installation problems.
Recently switched to Fedora 11, X86_64 and reinstalled; rpm version.
No problems as I recall. Perhaps I had to do
ldd scilab-bin
yum provides
yum install
a couple of times, but it must have been easy or I would have given
up. (To old to go through the day long installation hassles:) )
As far as I know it works fine now; they even fixed up the old bugs I
had filed. All except for one I got in a disagreement about; which I
will analyze now that I am retired.

Ray

RRogers

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Sep 19, 2009, 10:01:43 AM9/19/09
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I actually downloaded the binary .tar.gz version.
Ray

RRogers

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Sep 19, 2009, 2:43:57 PM9/19/09
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and... it actually doesn't run. Investigating and maybe compiing;
having trouble (concerns) with jogl
Ray

RRogers

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Sep 20, 2009, 1:11:35 PM9/20/09
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On Sep 19, 1:43 pm, RRogers <rerog...@plaidheron.com> wrote:

>
> > I actually downloaded the binary .tar.gz version.
> > Ray
>
> and... it actually doesn't run.  Investigating and maybe compiing;
> having trouble  (concerns) with jogl
> Ray

Investigated: appears there is a generic driver problem that extends
across various programs.
Failure process from terminal: scilab->scicos->palletes-> Sources
(after stabbing a couple of times; button seems sticky)
terminal report on failure: scilab-bin: radeon_cs_gem.c:121:
cs_gem_write_reloc: Assertion `bo->space_accounted' failed.

apparently in libdrm versions libdrm-2.4.11 libdrm-2.4.12 ; ubantu
apparently has a version libdrm-2.4.13 that doesn't have this problem.
I will wait for fc11 to catch up; or in a couple of weeks downgrade to
libdrm-2.4.6

In summary; if i have a graphics card driver problem this is not a
general problem or solution. Your milage will vary.
Ray

Sylvestre Ledru

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Sep 22, 2009, 5:48:45 AM9/22/09
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You will find some information here:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=472639

Some dependencies are missing (jogl for example).

I won't take the lead on the Fedora/Redhat packaging but I can help and
provide support on the Scilab packaging and (most of) its dependencies.

Sylvestre

RRogers

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Sep 22, 2009, 11:51:34 AM9/22/09
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On Sep 22, 4:48 am, Sylvestre Ledru <sylvestre.le...@scilab.org>
wrote:

I don't understand the jogl problem for fedora. The scilab binary has
libjogl.so and ldd indicates it found linkages in fc11 x86_64; the
other libjogl_xx.so do have broken links but I presume they are
alternatives. This is the reason I started concentrating on the
driver; libdrm. Well that's the first problem that turned up when it
crashed.

Sylvestre Ledru

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Sep 23, 2009, 3:45:18 AM9/23/09
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Le Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:51:34 -0700, RRogers a écrit:

> On Sep 22, 4:48 am, Sylvestre Ledru <sylvestre.le...@scilab.org> wrote:
>> Le Thu, 17 Sep 2009 01:14:56 -0700, Steve a écrit:
>>
>> > Now that there are packages for ubuntu and some of the other
>> > distributions I was wondering what the prospects are for a package
>> > for Fedora. Bugzilla seems to suggest that there were problems with
>> > some of the dependencies although there doesn't seem to have been
>> > much progress for awhile. Any news would be gratefully appreciated.
>>
>> You will find some information
>> here:https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=472639
>>
>> Some dependencies are missing (jogl for example).
>>
>> I won't take the lead on the Fedora/Redhat packaging but I can help and
>> provide support on the Scilab packaging and (most of) its dependencies.
>>
>> Sylvestre
>
> I don't understand the jogl problem for fedora.

The jogl problem is Fedora is due to an internal issue in jogl packaging.
For now, the jogl distribution includes both jogl and gluegen. Gluegen is
a thirdparty developped for this application but used also elsewhere.
This is a Native code <= Java wrapper.
Fedora requires here two packages with a good separation.
See: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=439630


The scilab binary has
> libjogl.so and ldd indicates it found linkages in fc11 x86_64;

Yep but distributions are working straight from sources, no binaries. They
all want to be able to bootstrap the applications.

> the other libjogl_xx.so do have broken links but I presume they are
alternatives.
> This is the reason I started concentrating on the driver; libdrm. Well
> that's the first problem that turned up when it crashed.

It is probably due to a bad driver (and here are plenty under Linux)

Sylvestre

Steve

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Sep 28, 2009, 6:03:11 AM9/28/09
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On Sep 23, 8:45 am, Sylvestre Ledru <sylvestre.le...@scilab.org>

This all sounds a little beyond my skills as a mechanical engineer.
The prospects of using Ubuntu are looking strong!

Regards
Steve

RRogers

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Nov 5, 2009, 11:58:43 AM11/5/09
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I switched to Ubuntu and installed. Scilab installed and worked with
only one problem.
I am using a X1300 graphics card and had to do a override in the
startup file to get the java/figures working. Since then the only
problem is a warning:

WARNING: Due to your configuration limitations, Scilab switched in a
mode where mixing uicontrols and graphics is not availab
le. Type "help usecanvas" for more
information.

WARNING: Despite of our previous warning, you choosed to use Scilab
with advanced graphics capabilities. Type "help usecanvas
" for more information.

on startup. I should really ask how to kill it; in fact I have been
building a gui and viewing plots without any problem (cross my
fingers).
HP Pavillion desktop
X86_64
Ubuntu 9.10
Scilab 5.1.1

Scilab and Google-earth: not working were deciding factors when I
switched. Things aren't perfect in Ubuntu; but better:)

Ray

Ray

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