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Mac OS X 10.5 - Mathematica 5.1 hangs - 6.0 works?

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Marc Heusser

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Nov 12, 2007, 5:15:24 AM11/12/07
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I have Mathematica 5.1. After the upgrade of Mac OS X to 10.5 (Leopard)
it seems to hang forever when I start it, using 95%+ of CPU time.

Is it not compatible? And is version 6.0 compatible?

I could not easily find the information on Wolfram's website.

TIA

Marc

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ragfield

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Nov 13, 2007, 3:32:39 AM11/13/07
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On Nov 12, 4:15 am, Marc Heusser

<marc.heus...@byeheusser.commercialspammers.invalid> wrote:
> I have Mathematica 5.1. After the upgrade of Mac OS X to 10.5 (Leopard)
> it seems to hang forever when I start it, using 95%+ of CPU time.
>
> Is it not compatible? And is version 6.0 compatible?

I just tried 5.1.1 and it runs on 10.5. 6.0 & 5.2 certainly run fine
on 10.5. Is the problem not that it is hanging, but perhaps that is
just taking a very long time to start up? I have observed that
sometimes Rosetta takes a while to start up. Are you seeing the
problem on an Intel machine?

-Rob


inevercheck...@hotmail.com

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Nov 13, 2007, 3:33:39 AM11/13/07
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On Nov 12, 10:15 am, Marc Heusser

<marc.heus...@byeheusser.commercialspammers.invalid> wrote:
> I have Mathematica 5.1. After the upgrade of Mac OS X to 10.5 (Leopard)
> it seems to hang forever when I start it, using 95%+ of CPU time.
>
> Is it not compatible? And is version 6.0 compatible?
>
> I could not easily find the information on Wolfram's website.

I can't comment on Mathematica 5.1 but I have Mathematica 6.0
installed on Leopard and it seems to be fine except for an error
installing the Notebook Indexer. I say seems to be fine since I am not
a Mathematica user, just someone who has to check stuff like whether
or not Mathematica installs and launches OK as part of their job. If
it installs and launches without spewing errors I assume it's OK
unless someone complains.

When I first ran Mathematica I was asked whether I wanted to install
the Wolfram Notebook Indexer plugin for Spotlight. I said yes and the
installer did it's stuff then told me:

The following install step failed: run postinstall script for Wolfram
Notebook Indexer. Contact the software manufacturer for assistance.

According to the logs it tried to /System/Library/Frameworks/
ApplicationServices.framework/Frameworks/LaunchServices.framework/
Support/lsregister
and that doesn't exist. lsregister exists but it's at /System/Library/
Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/LaunchServices.framework/
Support/lsregister
I suspect the plugin isn't working but can't be bothered to try and
workout how to test that. Can't find any references to the issue as
yet, I was looking to see if there were any on this group.

mike


Bill Rowe

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Nov 13, 2007, 3:47:49 AM11/13/07
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On 11/12/07 at 5:12 AM,
marc.h...@byeheusser.commercialspammers.invalid (Marc Heusser)
wrote:

>I have Mathematica 5.1. After the upgrade of Mac OS X to 10.5
>(Leopard) it seems to hang forever when I start it, using 95%+ of
>CPU time.

>Is it not compatible?

I don't know how whether version 5.1 is compatible with 10.5

>And is version 6.0 compatible?

It appears to be. That is, I've not had any problems running
version 6 under 10.5. I have noticed the launch time does seem
to be a bit slower. But not enough to be considered a problem.
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Marc Heusser

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Nov 13, 2007, 6:59:25 AM11/13/07
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In article <fhbnf7$qsl$1...@smc.vnet.net>, ragfield <ragf...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Yes, it is a Mac Book Pro.
I have version 5.1.0. To verify, I just started it up again - and it
runs.
So I will see whether I can upgrade to 5.2 or at least 5.1.1 for free.

Thank you

robert prince-wright

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Nov 14, 2007, 4:44:45 AM11/14/07
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I have been considering making a switch from Windows XP to a Mac for a while.

The arrival of Vista makes the decsion a little harder, and I have just been told that Mac Office 2008 will not include VBA which means some of my spreadsheets won't work under Leopard.

I visited the Apple Mac store this past weekend to see a demo - and was a little shocked that the demo machine crashed four times in one hour. It seemed like iCal, Time Machine and iPhoto are not stable and likely to be a huge pain. I also note there is a major bug which results in lost files during copy and move operations. All this makes me wonder whether or not to wait till next year.

Can others share their experience with the nascent operating systems. Are there Vista fans out there who would recommend Vista over Leopard.

I would also be interested in hearing from people running website applications under Tiger or Leopard. For example, would it be practical to have a small business web server on an iMac or would i need a Powermac?

inevercheck...@hotmail.com

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Nov 15, 2007, 5:57:50 AM11/15/07
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inevercheck...@hotmail.com wrote:
> I can't comment on Mathematica 5.1 but I have Mathematica 6.0
> installed on Leopard and it seems to be fine except for an error
> installing the Notebook Indexer. I say seems to be fine since I am not
> a Mathematica user, just someone who has to check stuff like whether
> or not Mathematica installs and launches OK as part of their job. If
> it installs and launches without spewing errors I assume it's OK
> unless someone complains.
>
> When I first ran Mathematica I was asked whether I wanted to install
> the Wolfram Notebook Indexer plugin for Spotlight. I said yes and the
> installer did it's stuff then told me:
>
> The following install step failed: run postinstall script for Wolfram
> Notebook Indexer. Contact the software manufacturer for assistance.

To to follow up on this, I wrote to Wolfram and got this back:

------------------
In testing the compatibility of Mathematica with Mac OS X 10.5
('Leopard'), we have found an issue that prevents the Spotlight
Notebook
Indexer from installing. We are working with Apple to resolve this
problem. The compatibility of Mathematica with Leopard is not
otherwise
affected.
------------------

mike

George Woodrow III

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Nov 16, 2007, 5:19:59 AM11/16/07
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If the Spotlight notebook indexer is already installed before going to
Leopard, it is still present -- as reported by Mathematica itself.

I filed a bug about this problem to both Apple and Wolfram during the
beta tests for both Mathematica 6 and Leopard.

george

On Nov 15, 2007, at 5:43 AM, inevercheck...@hotmail.com wrote:

>
>
> inevercheck...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> I can't comment on Mathematica 5.1 but I have Mathematica 6.0
>> installed on Leopard and it seems to be fine except for an error
>> installing the Notebook Indexer. I say seems to be fine since I am
>> not
>> a Mathematica user, just someone who has to check stuff like whether
>> or not Mathematica installs and launches OK as part of their job. If
>> it installs and launches without spewing errors I assume it's OK
>> unless someone complains.
>>
>> When I first ran Mathematica I was asked whether I wanted to install
>> the Wolfram Notebook Indexer plugin for Spotlight. I said yes and
>> the
>> installer did it's stuff then told me:
>>
>> The following install step failed: run postinstall script for Wolfram
>> Notebook Indexer. Contact the software manufacturer for assistance.
>

DrMajorBob

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Nov 17, 2007, 5:29:55 AM11/17/07
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So much for beta testing, right?

Bobby

On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:18:28 -0600, George Woodrow III <geor...@mac.com>
wrote:

> If the Spotlight notebook indexer is already installed before going to
> Leopard, it is still present -- as reported by Mathematica itself.
>
> I filed a bug about this problem to both Apple and Wolfram during the
> beta tests for both Mathematica 6 and Leopard.
>
> george
>
> On Nov 15, 2007, at 5:43 AM, inevercheck...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> inevercheck...@hotmail.com wrote:

>>> I can't comment on Mathematica 5.1 but I have Mathematica 6.0
>>> installed on Leopard and it seems to be fine except for an error
>>> installing the Notebook Indexer. I say seems to be fine since I am
>>> not
>>> a Mathematica user, just someone who has to check stuff like whether
>>> or not Mathematica installs and launches OK as part of their job. If
>>> it installs and launches without spewing errors I assume it's OK
>>> unless someone complains.
>>>
>>> When I first ran Mathematica I was asked whether I wanted to install
>>> the Wolfram Notebook Indexer plugin for Spotlight. I said yes and
>>> the
>>> installer did it's stuff then told me:
>>>
>>> The following install step failed: run postinstall script for Wolfram
>>> Notebook Indexer. Contact the software manufacturer for assistance.
>>

>> To to follow up on this, I wrote to Wolfram and got this back:
>>
>> ------------------
>> In testing the compatibility of Mathematica with Mac OS X 10.5
>> ('Leopard'), we have found an issue that prevents the Spotlight
>> Notebook
>> Indexer from installing. We are working with Apple to resolve this
>> problem. The compatibility of Mathematica with Leopard is not
>> otherwise
>> affected.
>> ------------------
>>
>> mike
>>
>
>
>

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Marc Heusser

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Jan 3, 2008, 8:39:51 PM1/3/08
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In article <fhc3it$4td$1...@smc.vnet.net>,
Marc Heusser <marc.h...@byeheusser.commercialspammers.invalid>
wrote:

Mathematica 5.1.0.0 runs stable on MAc OS X 10.5.1 on an Intel Core 2
Duo machine.

I still haven't figured out where to download Mathematica 5.1.1 or 5.2
but did not encounter problems.

Marc Heusser

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Jan 3, 2008, 8:40:52 PM1/3/08
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In article <fheg2d$ls1$1...@smc.vnet.net>,
robert prince-wright <robertpri...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I visited the Apple Mac store this past weekend to see a demo - and was a
> little shocked that the demo machine crashed four times in one hour. It
> seemed like iCal, Time Machine and iPhoto are not stable and likely to be a
> huge pain. I also note there is a major bug which results in lost files
> during copy and move operations. All this makes me wonder whether or not to
> wait till next year.

Macworld Expo is 14-18 Jan 2008 - traditionally the place to announce
new products. This is the time to buy a Mac, after the new announcements.
I hope this is not too late.

I have been using Mac OS 10.5 since it came out. There have been
occasional quirks but now at 10.5.1 it is stable and works well as do
the applications. So no more waiting. The four crashes in an hour seem
to point to a hardware problem in my experience. 10.5 was very good out
of the gates.

> > Can others share their experience with the nascent operating systems. Are
> there Vista fans out there who would recommend Vista over Leopard.

Cannot help you there - but mostly Vista was compared with the
predecessor 10.4 of Mac OS X. Mac OS X mostly won, and often Vista was
said to be a nicer looking XP. Leopard has many real improvements over
the previous version. It even runs faster on the same hardware!
If this is any indication, my fellow medical students either have a Mac
or will get one when they buy their next computer.
Small wonder, looking at tools like Osirix they can get for free
(http://www.osirix-viewer.com/).
If you long for Windows, you can also install that on a separate
partition and either boot from there or run Windows in a Window under
Mac OS X with Parallels, VMware etc.

> I would also be interested in hearing from people running website
> applications under Tiger or Leopard. For example, would it be practical to
> have a small business web server on an iMac or would i need a Powermac?

A web server typically is not taxing on a computer unless you are
serving many clients at the same time and have a VERY fast uplink to the
internet. I used a Mac mini with great success as my web and mailserver,
and will use a newer Mac mini soon.
An iMac makes a great server unless you want multiple disks (as backups
for example). You could use an older MacPro for more disks. If you want
the ultimate there is Xserve, but for a small business this may be
overkill. It does sport redundant power supplies etc if you need it.
You can run it with the standard Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard installation, it
has industrial strength Apache as webserver, and includes php perl as
well as sqllite. If you want more, install the free MAMP (Mac, Apache,
MYSQL, PHP).
Administration is simplified with Mac OS X 10.5 Server, you get many
handy User interfaces for tools already in the client version.

With all these options you get an industrial strength server, well
configured to start with. Apache serves most of the high traffic sites.
And they all have ipfw as a firewall, as you get with Mac OS X.

You may want to check hardware requirements for Mc OS X 10.5 at
http://www.apple.com/macosx/techspecs/
http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/specs.html

HTH

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