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Michael Schwartz  
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 More options Oct 18 1991, 2:31 pm
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From: schwa...@latour.cs.colorado.edu (Michael Schwartz)
Date: 18 Oct 91 00:24:18 GMT
Local: Thurs, Oct 17 1991 8:24 pm
Subject: ITU standards available online
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As announced recently at Interop, the International Telecommunication
Union standards documents (including the CCITT Blue Book) are now available
online.  You can get them by anonymous FTP from bruno.cs.colorado.edu (soon
to be renamed digital.resource.org) in pub/standards.  There is a HELP file
in this directory that explains what you need to know.  You can also access
these documents by sending mail to info...@bruno.cs.colorado.edu, with the
message body (not subject line) containing commands to a mail server.  Use
the command
        help
to get started.  Alternatively,
        send HELP
will send a more detailed description.

These documents will soon be available at a number of other sites as
well.

Please be aware that the standards on this server are being offered on
an experimental, volunteer basis.  They are currently in a preliminary
state of typesetting conversion.  Please bear with us concerning
imperfections.  The standards are being offered free of charge and we
expressly waive all guarantees and warranties.  If you want a guaranteed
version of the standards, you MUST refer to the printed versions
available for purchase from the International Telecommunication Union.

Sincerely,
        Carl Malamud
        Michael Schwartz

        The Digital Resource Institute and the Department of Computer
        Science, University of Colorado, Boulder


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Lon Stowell  
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 More options Oct 19 1991, 8:04 am
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From: lstow...@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Date: 18 Oct 91 18:49:28 GMT
Local: Fri, Oct 18 1991 2:49 pm
Subject: Re: ITU standards available online
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In article <1991Oct18.002418.27...@colorado.edu> schwa...@latour.cs.colorado.edu (Michael Schwartz) writes:
>As announced recently at Interop, the International Telecommunication
>Union standards documents (including the CCITT Blue Book) are now available
>online.
>The standards are being offered free of charge and we
>expressly waive all guarantees and warranties.  If you want a guaranteed
>version of the standards, you MUST refer to the printed versions
>available for purchase from the International Telecommunication Union.

>Sincerely,
>    Carl Malamud
>    Michael Schwartz

    Hopefully the printed versions will be forced to reduce their
    rip-off pricing levels a bit by this long overdue competition.

    Too bad there isn't an Internet Achievement award for which you
    guys would be a certain lock.


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Discussion subject changed to "ITU standards guaranteed (Was: ITU standards available online)" by Mark Hayes
Mark Hayes  
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 More options Oct 22 1991, 6:38 am
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From: ha...@blaise.trl.OZ.AU (Mark Hayes)
Date: 22 Oct 91 01:06:48 GMT
Local: Mon, Oct 21 1991 9:06 pm
Subject: Re: ITU standards guaranteed (Was: ITU standards available online)
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Ah, but the CCITT does not publish standards, they publish
*Recommendations* :-)

Cheers,
mdh
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Mark Hayes                                      Research Labs,
m.ha...@trl.oz.au                           Telecom Australia


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Andrew Friedman  
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 More options Oct 22 1991, 6:47 am
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From: andr...@syacus.acus.oz.au (Andrew Friedman)
Date: 21 Oct 91 06:32:18 GMT
Local: Mon, Oct 21 1991 2:32 am
Subject: ITU standards guaranteed (Was: ITU standards available online)
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schwa...@latour.cs.colorado.edu (Michael Schwartz) writes:
>As announced recently at Interop, the International Telecommunication
>Union standards documents (including the CCITT Blue Book) are now available
>online...
>...
>The standards are being offered free of charge and we
>expressly waive all guarantees and warranties.  If you want a guaranteed
>version of the standards, you MUST refer to the printed versions
>available for purchase from the International Telecommunication Union.

Ah, so the printed versions of standards are guaranteed.  So the next
time a broken CCITT standard causes your organisation to lose mucho
dollars, you sue the ITU.

Come to think of it I never did see a disclaimer on any CCITT standard.
You know the sort, "...no warranty, either express or implied is offered
to the fitness or suitability of this standard for any purpose."

>Sincerely,
>    Carl Malamud
>    Michael Schwartz

Please excuse my mischief.  I assume you meant to say you can
not guarantee the online versions are the same as the printed versions.
Nevertheless, thank you for your good work in making the standards
available on line.

Regards,

Andrew

P.S.  I don't think you could sue the ITU anyway since its an organ of
the United Nations.  I presume citizens of member nations of the U.N.
are precluded from sueing it.
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