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Nikon Super coolscan 8000 ED and firmware update

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John Dancke

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Jul 22, 2012, 7:22:43 AM7/22/12
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I have just bought this scanner. It works fine, but Nikon Scan 4 reports
formware 1.03. I can se that Nikon offers a firmware update 1.11.
They only say that this fixes a problem when run from a Mac though. I
use Windows XP.
The installation instructions says that only preinstalled Windows XP are
supported. I am not sure what this means exactly.

The main question is: Should I go for thnis firmware update ?

Regards John Dancke, Egersund, Norway

Email fotok...@tele2.no

Rob

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Jul 22, 2012, 9:43:13 AM7/22/12
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My suggestion is NO if you do the upgrade by flashing the chip and it
fails I don't think it is recoverable.

Charlie Hoffpauir

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Jul 22, 2012, 12:14:59 PM7/22/12
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 13:22:43 +0200, John Dancke <fotok...@tele2.no>
wrote:
In general the best policy is "If it's not broke, don't fix it."

John Dancke

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Jul 22, 2012, 12:57:52 PM7/22/12
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I'am shure that, and Robs warnings too, are very good advice, and I will
probably act accordingly, i.e.: do nothing, but I can't help feeling it
would be nice to know what all these updates were about? What am I
missing out on ?

John dancke

John Dancke

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Jul 23, 2012, 12:34:11 PM7/23/12
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Well, I ran the firmware update, luckily no problems, but no major
benefits either.

Regards John Dancke

Gernot Hassenpflug

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Jul 23, 2012, 11:30:06 PM7/23/12
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John Dancke <fotok...@tele2.no> writes:

> Well, I ran the firmware update, luckily no problems, but no major
> benefits either.
>
> Regards John Dancke

I'm sorry to say, and this is a general statement, but running
firmware upgrade without an appropriate reason is plain dumb. The
rule is simple:

Read the description of the firmware update. If there is not a
specific bug for your particular device or environment that is being
fixed, and is so critical that you cannot live with it, then don't do
any firmware upgrades. No matter how innocent, any firmware upgrade is
liable to destroy your system by introducing new bugs or making
existing ones visible.

The mindset of let's see what happens will only be satisfied once a
few bad things happen, you the person moves his or her curiosity into
a more productive direction!

There are many examples of innocent upgrades causing havoc, so if one
wishes to experiment, discipine and preparation is required, in order
to recover possible from disaster (in this case, having a spare
scanner and being willing to dispose of a wrecked one).
Regards,
--
Gernot Hassenpflug

Gernot Hassenpflug

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Jul 23, 2012, 11:30:22 PM7/23/12
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John Dancke <fotok...@tele2.no> writes:

> Well, I ran the firmware update, luckily no problems, but no major
> benefits either.
>
> Regards John Dancke

I'm sorry to say, and this is a general statement, but running
firmware upgrade without an appropriate reason is plain dumb. The
rule is simple:

Read the description of the firmware update. If there is not a
specific bug for your particular device or environment that is being
fixed, and is so critical that you cannot live with it, then don't do
any firmware upgrades. No matter how innocent, any firmware upgrade is
liable to destroy your system by introducing new bugs or making
existing ones visible.

The mindset of let's see what happens will only be satisfied once a
few bad things happen, and the person moves his or her curiosity into
a more productive direction!

There are many examples of innocent upgrades causing havoc, so if one
wishes to experiment, discipine and preparation is required, in order
to recover possible from disaster (in this case, having a spare
scanner and being willing to dispose of a wrecked one).

Regards,
--
Gernot Hassenpflug

Noons

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Jul 24, 2012, 6:36:33 AM7/24/12
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John Dancke wrote,on my timestamp of 24/07/2012 2:34 AM:
> Well, I ran the firmware update, luckily no problems, but no major benefits either.
>

IIRC, the firmware upgrade for the 8000 fixed some problems with Nikonscan and
Kodachrome scanning. If that is not your use, then you won't see any
improvements. It won't hurt other scans either.


John Dancke

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Jul 24, 2012, 2:53:35 PM7/24/12
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Thank you for the information. I so come across som Kodakchromes from
time time. Despite the firmware update Digital Ice does nor work to well
on Kodakchrome in Nikon Scan 4. Vuescan is better here.

John Dancke

Rob

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Jul 25, 2012, 2:02:25 AM7/25/12
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How come its better?

Noons

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Jul 25, 2012, 6:41:36 AM7/25/12
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John Dancke wrote,on my timestamp of 25/07/2012 4:53 AM:

> Despite the firmware update Digital Ice does nor work to well on Kodakchrome in
> Nikon Scan 4. Vuescan is better here.

There is a corresponding patch for Nikonscan4 as well, IIRC.
The 800 and 4000 were never very good with 'chrome anyway,the VED, 5000 and 9000
are a lot better in that regard. But they also need the Nikonscan patch.

John Dancke

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Jul 25, 2012, 1:04:12 PM7/25/12
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I got a strange double outline on black letters on a white groung, when
using NikonScan.
I have put a picture that shows both scans in my DropBoks here:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/85394633/Kodachrome_scans.tif


regards John Dancke

Rob

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Jul 25, 2012, 9:12:46 PM7/25/12
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That's interesting it should do that. Wonder if its trying to clean by
adding the surrounding colour but the black is too large, small dust
most likely just gets covered without problems.

Thanks

Rob

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Jul 25, 2012, 9:14:50 PM7/25/12
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What I should have added is that when ICE was first introduced I turned
it off when scanning BW and Kodachrome. So I didn't notice it doing what
you have demonstrated.
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