Re: EPSON Printers

[Gernot Hassenpflug]

Frank Williams <FWil...@happy.com.ru> writes:

> On Sun, 04 Nov 2012 15:12:01 -0600, Joel <Jo...@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>
> >Frank Williams <FWil...@happy.com.ru> wrote:

/../

> >- Refillable Ink Cartridge is the cheapest and easiest to go
>
> I will kill myself before I ever use Refills full stop.

I've never had a problem with refills, but mostly I just refill my own
cartridges (Canon printers, not Epsons). Especially useful for those
slightly older printers that Canon does not sell cartridges for
anymore (presumably same story for Epson).

> I am a Engineer and has seen far to many printers stuffed up with using
> Refills, Plus the Ink all over the Place, but then its great for
> teenagers as they have no brains.

I don't know, but it seems making broad generalizations is not the
sort of thing an engineer would do.

> >- If you don't wanna refill yourself (you should) then you can shop for
> >remanufactured ink cartridge which costs around $3-4 or so a pop.
>
>
> It seems that you just did not understand my Post at all.

I gathered you were giving a tip, which was great.

I venture that the reply here was also useful, since you could take
the working chip from remanufactured cartridges to fix dud Epson
cartridges....
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Gernot Hassenpflug

[Gernot Hassenpflug]

Frank Williams <FWil...@happy.com.ru> writes:

> On 05 Nov 2012 15:59:14 +0900, Gernot Hassenpflug

> Nothing of the sort I was referring that the Epson Cartridge has a
> device to weigh the ink and it tacks on the back of the chip.
>
> I've been in the Electronics computer industry for some 30 years.

Thanks for the tip.
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Gernot Hassenpflug

[Bob Eager]

On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 08:19:41 -0600, Joel wrote:

> Frank Williams <FWil...@happy.com.ru> wrote:
>

>> On 05 Nov 2012 15:59:14 +0900, Gernot Hassenpflug
>> <ha4h...@asahi-net.or.jp> wrote:
>>

>> Nothing of the sort I was referring that the Epson Cartridge has a
>> device to weigh the ink and it tacks on the back of the chip.
>>
>> I've been in the Electronics computer industry for some 30 years.
>

> As have have mentioned in earlier message. Put your Engineer and
now
> Electronics + 30 years smelly experience aside and start learning thing
> you haven't learned in the past 30 years.
>
> What a waste! (I am talking about your tiny brain)

Well, his brain power is clearly insufficient for him to understand when
to use Capital Letters, or to spell correctly!

I'm sure there are actually cases where bad ink can screw up a printer,
but a good engineer should certainly know better than to make sweeping
generalisatons.



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[Bob Eager]

On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 09:58:07 +1300, Frank Williams wrote:

> No I don't want some Brain Dead Idiot go telling me to use Refills, its
> the sort of comments that come from Teenagers that DONT HAVE EXPERENCE.
>
> So wind your Heads In Little Boys,

You still can't work the caps, can you? I'm probably older than you, and
I am a qualified engineer.

[Tony]

Bob
He isn't worth it. His bad advice here and other newsgroups is well understood.
I am a fully qualified electronics engineer and have been in IT and computers
for well over 30 years. I specialised in printers for some years and I can say
that I have never seen any printer damaged by third party or refilled
cartridges.
Those that say they have are either manufacturers of printers (and they would
wouldn't they?) or people who either lie or have pitiful technical skills.
I do not advocate nor do I criticise the use of third party inks. Some are good
and some not so. But they do not "damage" printers in my experience.
Frank Williams posts using a nom de plume and has used others in the past. He
is inclined to abuse at the earliest opportunity whenever anyone disagrees with
him and has the technical skills (as demonstrated by his bad advice) of a
rhesus.
A thoroughly unpleasant individual.
Tony

[Gernot Hassenpflug]

Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz> writes:

> Bob
> He isn't worth it. His bad advice here and other newsgroups is well understood.
> I am a fully qualified electronics engineer and have been in IT and computers
> for well over 30 years. I specialised in printers for some years and I can say
> that I have never seen any printer damaged by third party or refilled
> cartridges.

Indeed. I ended off with just an ironic short post, seeing the way the
wind was blowing.

(and I also have an Electrical & Electronics Engineering degree, with
post-grad degrees in remote sensing, remoter and remoter from
reality....)

I agree with you about the inks also, and it is clear from doing
searches on the newsgroup archives how useful 3rd party inks are.

> Those that say they have are either manufacturers of printers (and they would
> wouldn't they?) or people who either lie or have pitiful technical skills.
> I do not advocate nor do I criticise the use of third party inks. Some are good
> and some not so. But they do not "damage" printers in my experience.
> Frank Williams posts using a nom de plume and has used others in the past. He
> is inclined to abuse at the earliest opportunity whenever anyone disagrees with
> him and has the technical skills (as demonstrated by his bad advice) of a
> rhesus.
> A thoroughly unpleasant individual.

Agreed!

Now let's get back to the wonderful constructive world of helping one
another fiddle with these monsters.
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Gernot Hassenpflug

[Tony]

Gernot I couldn't agree more, I get twitchy when people post things that are
misleading; especially, when based on previous experience, I think there may be
a little bitterness or malice involved.
Keep up the good work.
Tony

[Gernot Hassenpflug]

Joel <Jo...@NoSpam.com> writes:

> Frank Williams <FWil...@happy.com.ru> wrote:
>
> > >> Electronics + 30 years smelly experience aside and start learning thing
> > >> you haven't learned in the past 30 years.
> > >>
> > >> What a waste! (I am talking about your tiny brain)
> > >
> > >Well, his brain power is clearly insufficient for him to understand when
> > >to use Capital Letters, or to spell correctly!
> > >
> > >I'm sure there are actually cases where bad ink can screw up a printer,
> > >but a good engineer should certainly know better than to make sweeping
> > >generalisatons.
> >

> > No I don't want some Brain Dead Idiot go telling me to use Refills, its
> > the sort of comments that come from Teenagers that DONT HAVE EXPERENCE.
> >
> > So wind your Heads In Little Boys,
>

> No! the Brain Dead Idiots are telling you to replace the screwed up
> engineer's dream with a dead brain.
>
> And also not to use the word EXPERIENCE because everyone knows who has
> propblem. And I didn't tell ya not to mess with the chip (even I saw you
> mentioned the word engineer) because I was trying to be nice to you.
>
> I wish you act and as smart as a normal teenager so you can learn
> something.

Hear, hear!

Argument from authority: massive fail :-)
Now he can continue to argue in my killfile. I love gnus.
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