HP Cartridge storage?
sburger7
don't have a refill kit yet, I'm on my first cart which is almost gone so I
have 2 more to go through until I need to refill. Thanks
Al Anderson
The best way to store the empties is to replace the printhead tape on the
printhead with the tape that comes on the new one (don't use any other tape).
You didn't say which cartridge but if it has a vent hole or maze holes on the
bottom, try to tape over them to prevent air from entering. Then place in an
airtight container - a ziplock is best and you should try to get tthe air out
before sealing. Here is a good home method:
Put the cartridge in ziplock, place a straw in one corner. Close the ziplock up
to the straw and then suck all the air out and as you remove the straw, finish
closing the ziplock. HEY - this works good for storing fresh veggies, etc. too.
Storing the cartridge in the frig will be good too but better to just store in
a cool, dry location.
When you get ready for refilling, give us a look 0^0
Cheers & Happy Printing,
Al
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BTW - buy the lesser expensive "economy carts" as they can be refilled to full
capacity but are cheaper to purchase initially.
If youy need the workaround instructions, let em know.
Bob Headrick
"Al Anderson" <ref...@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
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> The best way to store the empties is to replace the printhead tape on the
> printhead with the tape that comes on the new one (don't use any other tape).
Bad advise. If you do this with a tri-color cartridge you will almost certainly
cause color mixing under the tape, which will then contaminate the cartridge
irreparably in just a few hours.
Regards,
Bob Headrick, not speaking for my employer HP
Adriatic
Couple of hour is too generous time for this mistake. In fact 30 seconds is
enough if your yellow is gone first and you have plenty of cyan left.
So our recommendation is :
Take an small plate. Coffee one will do. Fill it with 5 mm of distillated
water. The ordinary one will do as well. Then leave the color cartridge head
down overnight or for couple of hours on it. The water will be collected by
sponge and this will prevent ink from crystallization. Otherwise you can
forget this cartridge. When the ink start to crystallize that is as you have
poured the sand in it.
Now you can leave this cartridge for couple of weeks and refill it more or
less successfully.
But by no means do not put it in plastic bag. It would be the best if you
have the original box for storage.
When you are refilling it, press the head on towel and leave it that way
for few minutes. This will help you to get back the color intensity.
It is true you will lose some ink this way, but still it is better then
loose a cartridge.
Adriatic Ink & Toner
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Al Anderson
Are you saying that the cartridge used for the "economy" cartridges is different
than the full capacity ones? If so, would you please identify the specific #s of
the cartridges you are referring to. I personally refill the economy carts for the
HP 800 series (C1823) myself for my own use and have yet to have a problem.
The other HP cartridges that we sell appear to be externally identical in every way
- whether economy or full capacity. I'm not talking about "starter" cartridges.
Bob Headrick wrote:
> "Al Anderson" <ref...@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:39608D4B...@stny.rr.com...
>
> > The best way to store the empties is to replace the printhead tape on the
> > printhead with the tape that comes on the new one (don't use any other tape).
>
> Bad advise. If you do this with a tri-color cartridge you will almost certainly
> cause color mixing under the tape, which will then contaminate the cartridge
> irreparably in just a few hours.
>
> Regards,
> Bob Headrick, not speaking for my employer HP
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John Connolly
Adriatic wrote:
> This is not right
>
> Couple of hour is too generous time for this mistake. In fact 30 seconds is
> enough if your yellow is gone first and you have plenty of cyan left.
>
> So our recommendation is :
>
> Take an small plate. Coffee one will do. Fill it with 5 mm of distillated
> water. The ordinary one will do as well. Then leave the color cartridge head
> down overnight or for couple of hours on it. The water will be collected by
> sponge and this will prevent ink from crystallization. Otherwise you can
> forget this cartridge. When the ink start to crystallize that is as you have
> poured the sand in it.
>
> Now you can leave this cartridge for couple of weeks and refill it more or
> less successfully.
>
> But by no means do not put it in plastic bag. It would be the best if you
> have the original box for storage.
>
> When you are refilling it, press the head on towel and leave it that way
> for few minutes. This will help you to get back the color intensity.
>
> It is true you will lose some ink this way, but still it is better then
> loose a cartridge.
>
> Adriatic Ink & Toner
>
> Bob Headrick <bo...@proaxis.com> wrote in message
> news:sm1jqv...@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > "Al Anderson" <ref...@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:39608D4B...@stny.rr.com...
> >
> > > The best way to store the empties is to replace the printhead tape on
> the
> > > printhead with the tape that comes on the new one (don't use any other
> tape).
> >
> > Bad advise. If you do this with a tri-color cartridge you will almost
> certainly
> > cause color mixing under the tape, which will then contaminate the
> cartridge
> > irreparably in just a few hours.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Bob Headrick, not speaking for my employer HP
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Al Anderson
I have been in this biz a long time. In no way would I subscribe to this method.
I have seen some good advice coming from you in the past - but this is not.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with storing cartridges in a plastic bag as
long as you do not let the bare printhead touch the plastic. I've been doing
that for 5 years and so have many of my customers. No problems.
Al
Adriatic wrote:
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Al Anderson
Bob Headrick wrote:
> "Al Anderson" <ref...@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:39608D4B...@stny.rr.com...
>
> > The best way to store the empties is to replace the printhead tape on the
> > printhead with the tape that comes on the new one (don't use any other tape).
>
> Bad advise. If you do this with a tri-color cartridge you will almost certainly
> cause color mixing under the tape, which will then contaminate the cartridge
> irreparably in just a few hours.
Bob,
I thought you were referring to the refilling - hence my first response. We seal
all empty and refilled cartridges with printhead sealing tape and do not have a
serious printhead contamination problem and with the amount we sell we would know
about it. other tapes like scotch tape can be a problem. There is occassionally
some contamination at the printhead but this can occur anyway and the printhead
tape has been the best system so far. The minor contamination is quickly cleared up
by blotting on a damp paper towel and printing some solid colors. I have *never*
had a cartridge returned that was totally contaminated thru the compartments using
this method.
If you have, please give me more information and the #s of cartridges it happened
to.
Obviously, my intent is not to give out bad advice (if that is what it is).
Thanks,
Al
Bob Headrick
> Bob Headrick wrote:
> > "Al Anderson" <ref...@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:39608D4B...@stny.rr.com...
> >
> > > The best way to store the empties is to replace the printhead tape on the
> > > printhead with the tape that comes on the new one (don't use any other
tape).
> >
> > Bad advise. If you do this with a tri-color cartridge you will almost
certainly
> > cause color mixing under the tape, which will then contaminate the cartridge
> > irreparably in just a few hours.
[snip]
> I have *never*
> had a cartridge returned that was totally contaminated thru the compartments
using
> this method.
>
> If you have, please give me more information and the #s of cartridges it
happened
> to.
Replacing tape on the C1823, 51641 or C6578 series cartridges will result in
color mixing in nearly all cases. This is because it is nearly impossible for a
customer to clean and dry the surface so that the tape wil properly stick. If
the tape is not properly applied a capilary path will exist under the tape
between the colors, allowing one color to be siphoned from the other. The
result is ink mixing in the chambers, and after some time up into the foam.
Once this happens the cartridge will be permanently damaged. If the
contanimated ink has not reached the foam it may be possible to recover with
printing.
I have personally seen many cases where the cartridge has been ruined by
retaping.
Adriatic
The only answer for this is ink crystallization that is happening in color
HP ink because of low concentration of glycerin in this ink.
I suppose that crystallization is happening gradually in sponge as the air
is coming in place of ink. That this sponge is choused just because of its
characteristic.
So when you pour some more ink , because it is saturated with color die in
the most cases if the cartridge has not been used for a while it can not
dissolve formed crystals, or at last not all of them so they function as a
flying plugs.
But if you let water first in, then you have some better chance to dissolve
these crystals. As you knew the crystallization is proportional with
saturation. But then it is a question how to get right color back. So you
have to play a bit around, like using some more concentrated ink and so on.
Sometimes after you pour some water in, you can get some 20% more prints
from this cartridge as reward from that HP' s sponge and dissolved crystals.
Hope this helps
Adriatic Ink & Toner
John Connolly <to...@idirect.com> wrote in message
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> The real problem is that HP has rigged these cartridges against refilling.
>
> > > "Al Anderson" <ref...@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:39608D4B...@stny.rr.com...
> > >
> > > > The best way to store the empties is to replace the printhead tape
on
> > the
> > > > printhead with the tape that comes on the new one (don't use any
other
> > tape).
> > >
> > > Bad advise. If you do this with a tri-color cartridge you will almost
> > certainly
> > > cause color mixing under the tape, which will then contaminate the
> > cartridge
> > > irreparably in just a few hours.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Bob Headrick, not speaking for my employer HP
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
> --
sburger7
Another question is how long will the store for? I don't print much so it
might be close to a year before I get through all three carts and have to
refill. I'm thinking of getting remanufactured color carts as they are
cheaper. I have all my blacks but I need 2 more color carts. Thanks.
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Adriatic
best case it can survive an month or two if you use our procedure.
But 51645 can do, but it won't heart if you put some distillated water in
it for that storage. You can easily take it out featly.
Adriatic Ink & Toner
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sburger7
never refill and 1 that I use. Swap with the 2 to reset the ink levels and
only refill the 1. Should I just do this with the blacks also? Like I said
I don't print very much, I got my printer in Feb and the original carts are
almost empty (acording to the monitor).
Thanks.
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Joseph Zorzin
> The real problem is that HP has rigged these cartridges against refilling.
Right! I'd love to do refills, but the instructions I see from various people
leave me feeling not up to it. The dam things ought to be designed to be refilled-
and HP should sell the refill stuff too. Come on HP, we all feel ripped off. We
know that the cartridges are expensive to refill, but if you designed them to be
refilled... then you could make a profit on the refill kits too- and have much
happier customers. We'd be happier and tell our friends to buy the printers too-
so in the long run, you'd be better off.
--
Joe Zorzin
sburger7
anything. Just build a refill system into the cartridges and sell the ink.
If the printheads wear out, buy a new cartridge. I think they would make a
good profit from selling ink and not having to make as many cartridges.
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