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norm.r...@metso.com

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Mar 19, 2007, 9:25:54 AM3/19/07
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Does anyone know of any FTP over SSL available for OpenVMS Alpha V7.3*?
Pointer?

Christoph Gartmann

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Mar 19, 2007, 9:30:00 AM3/19/07
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In article <OF1803BD90.307379E6-ON852572...@metso.com>, norm.r...@metso.com writes:
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>Does anyone know of any FTP over SSL available for OpenVMS Alpha V7.3*?
>Pointer?

You are looking for SFTP which is available in Multinet from Process Software.

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Christoph Gartmann

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norm.r...@metso.com

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Mar 19, 2007, 9:39:16 AM3/19/07
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gart...@nonsense.immunbio.mpg.de (Christoph Gartmann) wrote on 03/19/2007
09:30:00 AM:

> In article <OF1803BD90.307379E6-ON852572A3.0049A3CA-852572A3.


> 0049...@metso.com>, norm.r...@metso.com writes:
> >
> >Does anyone know of any FTP over SSL available for OpenVMS Alpha V7.3*?
> >Pointer?
>
> You are looking for SFTP which is available in Multinet from
ProcessSoftware.

With all due respect, I have Multinet running, and Process informs me that
they
do not yet have FTP over SSL but are not unaware of it.

I have an app which is asking specifically for FTP over SSL. I have been
informed
that at least on Windows download is available...so the question stands.

-Norm
"Everything worthwhile eventually degenerates into real work." -Murphy

Jeffrey H. Coffield

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Mar 19, 2007, 9:40:33 AM3/19/07
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norm.r...@metso.com wrote:
> Does anyone know of any FTP over SSL available for OpenVMS Alpha V7.3*?
> Pointer?
>
Try "sftp" at then $ prompt then type help.

Jeff Coffield

Richard Brodie

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Mar 19, 2007, 9:45:50 AM3/19/07
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"Christoph Gartmann" <gart...@nonsense.immunbio.mpg.de> wrote in message
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>>Does anyone know of any FTP over SSL available for OpenVMS Alpha V7.3*?
>>Pointer?
>
> You are looking for SFTP which is available in Multinet from Process Software.

That would be FTP over SSH, though. FTP over SSL isn't the same thing.


Farrell, Michael

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Mar 19, 2007, 10:06:59 AM3/19/07
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FTP over SSL is usually invoked with the command "ftps".

Under SSH it is invoked with the command "sftp".

To my knowledge, FTP under SSL is not available under VMS.

I would like to have it also.

Regards,

Mike Farrell


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gart...@nonsense.immunbio.mpg.de (Christoph Gartmann) wrote on
03/19/2007
09:30:00 AM:

> In article <OF1803BD90.307379E6-ON852572A3.0049A3CA-852572A3.
> 0049...@metso.com>, norm.r...@metso.com writes:
> >

> >Does anyone know of any FTP over SSL available for OpenVMS Alpha
V7.3*?
> >Pointer?
>
> You are looking for SFTP which is available in Multinet from

Steven M. Schweda

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Mar 19, 2007, 10:15:05 AM3/19/07
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From: norm.r...@metso.com

> Does anyone know of any FTP over SSL available for OpenVMS Alpha V7.3*?
> Pointer?

The answer might depend on whether you seek a client or a server (or
both). Kermit might offer a client.

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Steven M. Schweda sms@antinode-org
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Saint Paul MN 55105-2547

B. Z. Lederman

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Mar 19, 2007, 10:47:02 AM3/19/07
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>> In article <OF1803BD90.307379E6-ON852572A3.0049A3CA-852572A3.
>> 0049...@metso.com>, norm.r...@metso.com writes:
>> >
>> >Does anyone know of any FTP over SSL available for OpenVMS Alpha V7.3*?
>> >Pointer?

I think cURL may do what you want. Although usually described
as a a web page retriever, it does also do ftp, and there is an
SSL version. (I've done ftp, haven't tried it with SSL myself.)

http://curl.haxx.se

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dav...@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk

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Mar 19, 2007, 11:00:50 AM3/19/07
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SFTP (SSH File transfer protocol) and FTP over SSL (FTPS) are different things

see

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FTPS

and


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSH_file_transfer_protocol


David Webb
Security team leader
CCSS
Middlesex University

>Jeff Coffield

norm.r...@metso.com

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Mar 19, 2007, 11:07:42 AM3/19/07
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lede...@encompasserve.org (B. Z. Lederman) wrote on 03/19/2007 10:47:02
AM:

> >> In article <OF1803BD90.307379E6-ON852572A3.0049A3CA-852572A3.
> >> 0049...@metso.com>, norm.r...@metso.com writes:
> >> >

> >> >Does anyone know of any FTP over SSL available for OpenVMS Alpha
V7.3*?
> >> >Pointer?
>

> I think cURL may do what you want. Although usually described
> as a a web page retriever, it does also do ftp, and there is an
> SSL version. (I've done ftp, haven't tried it with SSL myself.)
>
> http://curl.haxx.se
>

I haven't been able to grok curl on VMS (albeit with minimum research).
My VMS machines do not have access to any DNS server. Is that a
show-stopper. I tried giving it an IP-address instead but the results
were not what I expected. Actually I did not know what to expect, but
do not remember it returning anything useful.

At any rate, this app apparently needs to transfer information and I
have to check to see it the transfer is from-only or two-way.

Doc

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Mar 19, 2007, 11:34:48 AM3/19/07
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norm.r...@metso.com wrote in news:OF658D4F34.F1C69AEA-
ON852572A3.0052BF2...@metso.com:

>> >> >Does anyone know of any FTP over SSL available for OpenVMS Alpha
> V7.3*?
>> >> >Pointer?

As a cludgey approach can't you set up a small box to do the FTP over SSL
with the directories on your Alpha NFS mounted, or a shared drives with
something like SAMBA?


Doc.

norm.r...@metso.com

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Mar 19, 2007, 12:06:21 PM3/19/07
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Naw, that's not cludgey enough. We'll probably use FTP from VMS to a
Windows server, then FTPS from there to the remote app, and the same to
reverse the process. The security is not needed internally.

>
> Doc.

Marty Kuhrt

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Mar 20, 2007, 9:49:13 PM3/20/07
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I did a quick test of ftps with curl 7.16.1 using this command...

$ curl -v --ftp-ssl-reqd ftps://user:pa...@knife.kuhrt.net:21

Where user was the username and pass was the password on knife
(a Mac runnning CrushFTP4 that does ftps) and it worked (somewhat).
It connected and did all the right things, but my CACERT setup
was wrong, so it failed (but that wasn't a cURL or CrushFTP
problem).

SFTP on the otherhand is _not_ supported in cURL. At least not
in the build I distribute on the curl.haxx.se site. If you want
to try and build it with the SSH2 stuff, be my guest, and let me
know how you got it to work.

Since I use curl to do website testing I don't use, or test, the
ftp stuff.

Regards,
Marty

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