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Subject: Re: Trying to build a case for Benefit of OpenVMS Hobbyist Program	being beneficial to HP
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In article <pan.2011.11.17.00.20.53.591...@swbell.net>, Jim Hopkins <bwana...@swbell.net> writes:
>{...snip...}
>Bill, I have not done any of that, but having the ability to run OpenVMS
>as a hobbyist on a non-production system has certainly improved my OpenVMS
>administration and programming skills.

Perfect!  The Hobbyist program provides a "sand-box" for learning VMS 
and VMS skills that a production environment would not provide.



>I was scared to touch VMS when I first started my job, but after getting the
>hobbyist license, installing the simh emulator and OpenVMS on top of that, 
>(and BREAKING it on more than one occasion) I'm now comfortable with daily
>administration and I know where to go for answers when there's something I
>don't know how to do. 

And, again, learning VMS skills you wouldn't otherwise be able to on a
production systems.



>I guess you might say that benefits me, not HP - but I'm far more likely now
>which in turn make me more to recommend to my boss and upper management that we 
>continue using OpenVMS.  

It does benefit them.  It's fostering and creating knowledgeable users,
knowledgeable admins, and knowledgeable programmers who will want to use
and buy VMS.  Otherwise, the monies go to buy Micro$oft virus collector.

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