From: "Craig A. Berry" <craigbe...@nospam.mac.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 13:58:15 -0600
Local: Fri, Nov 18 2011 2:58 pm
Subject: Re: Trying to build a case for Benefit of OpenVMS Hobbyist Program being beneficial to HP
Bill Pedersen wrote:It's rather sad that this is considered a matter of personal belief
> I personally believe that the OpenVMS Hobbyist program is a great asset to
> HP and OpenVMS.
since the benefits are so numerous and so objectively obvious to anyone
paying the slightest attention.
> But I have been challenged to show the return to OpenVMS
> from this program. My hope in this process we can work toward gettingThanks for trying. The return has to be measured in terms of
> access to patches for the OpenVMS Hobbyist community. No guarantees, but I
> have to try.
capabilities and opportunities that would otherwise have been lost.
Where I work there are no system managers or even full-time OpenVMS
In fact, without the hobbyist program and my involvement in it, there's
I think it's highly probable that were there no hobbyist program, we
I suspect there are many thousands of small VMS sites around the world
> So I am asking you, the OpenVMS Hobbyists, what Open Source applicationsThere would be no Perl on OpenVMS without the hobbyist program. I've
> have you ported?
been the primary maintainer of the VMS port for quite a few years, which
means this includes the old 5.8.6 version HP still distributes as well
as later versions (current is 5.14.2).
The record of what I've done is publicly available in Perl's version
While I use Perl occasionally at work, I have no time to maintain it
Aside from being ubiquitous and powerful and something that a lot of
I also maintain the VMS port of FreeTDS (<http://www.freetds.org/>),
The original port of FreeTDS was something I did as a hobbyist and as a
As time passed, the Sybase servers that our VMS system at work was
So my premonition came true. Suddenly it was critical that we have
> What utilities have you developed? Where are they
> published?Perl and FreeTDS include OpenVMS build support in the standard source
distributions. Both of these projects have given me commit bits,
meaning I can push my changes into the official repository without any
begging or pleading.
I've also updated Joe Meadows' UAF utility and made it available here:
> What have you done as far as possibly participating in fieldHmm. I downloaded and installed the GNV 3.0 beta kit. I confess to not
> test programs?
having done much with it after I discovered it includes only 16 updated
utilities instead of the 96 new and updated utilities that were being
promised for it a year ago. It looks like if this vitally important bit
of infrastructure is ever going to get the attention it needs and
deserves, it's going to be done by hobbyists.
Sorry this got long.
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