Cerner might be realizing HP-UX is industry joke
seasoned_geek
Cerner appears to be actively looking for OpenVMS skills. Even after
they were told that OpenVMS was not strategic by HP. My guess would
be their installed base decided to jump vendors rather than operating
systems...well...some of them were smart enough...enough of them that
Cerner is once again listing OpenVMS skills as a requirement in their
job postings.
I provided the link here because I know some of you worked with Cerner
products on OpenVMS before Cerner was told that OpenVMS was not
strategic for HP...hmmm...I wonder if Gartner was paid to say that as
its own "industry analysis"? Seems to be pretty much how they
generate all of their "industry analysis", whatever a vendor pays them
to say.
JF Mezei
> http://www.americasjobexchange.com/seeker/jobsearch/quick?action=JobSearchViewJob&JobSearch_JobId=525618589&utm_source=Indeed&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=Indeed
>
> Cerner appears to be actively looking for OpenVMS skills.
That job posting has no dates. So that raises question marks on its
currency.
Also, even if a company such as Cerner were to stop producing new
releases on VMS, it would still need to support customers for a number
of years and thus still need some staff familiar with the older VMS
versions.
Michael Kraemer
> This just showed up.
>
> http://www.americasjobexchange.com/seeker/jobsearch/quick?action=JobSearchViewJob&JobSearch_JobId=525618589&utm_source=Indeed&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=Indeed
>
> Cerner appears to be actively looking for OpenVMS skills. Even after
> they were told that OpenVMS was not strategic by HP. My guess would
> be their installed base decided to jump vendors rather than operating
> systems...well...some of them were smart enough...enough of them that
> Cerner is once again listing OpenVMS skills as a requirement in their
> job postings.
>
Can you say "legacy support"?
seasoned_geek
> seasoned_geek wrote:
> >http://www.americasjobexchange.com/seeker/jobsearch/quick?action=JobS...
>
> > Cerner appears to be actively looking for OpenVMS skills.
>
> That job posting has no dates. So that raises question marks on its
> currency.
>
> Also, even if a company such as Cerner were to stop producing new
> releases on VMS, it would still need to support customers for a number
> of years and thus still need some staff familiar with the older VMS
> versions.
It showed up in a daily Indeed.com feed, so it was either posted brand
new or someone hit it with a "touch" utility.
Sue
>
> Cerner appears to be actively looking for OpenVMS skills. Even after
> they were told that OpenVMS was not strategic by HP. My guess would
> be their installed base decided to jump vendors rather than operating
> systems...well...some of them were smart enough...enough of them that
> Cerner is once again listing OpenVMS skills as a requirement in their
> job postings.
>
> I provided the link here because I know some of you worked with Cerner
> products on OpenVMS before Cerner was told that OpenVMS was not
> strategic for HP...hmmm...I wonder if Gartner was paid to say that as
> its own "industry analysis"? Seems to be pretty much how they
> generate all of their "industry analysis", whatever a vendor pays them
> to say.
Cerner has some wonderful VMS people there and I would highly recomend
them is anyone is looking for a job. Please do remember that they had
VMS for years so would have a number of customers and a number of
projects running VMS. When the decision was made not to port to
Integrity by the powers that be, I am sure they thought it was for the
best. But as we all know VMS customers usually prefer to stay on VMS
for which I am very happy about.
Sue
DaveG
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While this will probably remain a mystery, I wonder what the _real_
story was behind the Cerner decision not to stick with VMS.
Maybe Indiana Jones will dig it up a few centuries from now.
Dave...
JF Mezei
> While this will probably remain a mystery, I wonder what the _real_
> story was behind the Cerner decision not to stick with VMS.
>
> Maybe Indiana Jones will dig it up a few centuries from now.
Bssed on certain clues I got, you would need to get to at least
Livermore or Hurd (or was Carly still the big cheese at that time?)
It appears that the people at the lower levels were not involved and not
aware of what was going on and heard the news at the same time David
Dachtera announced it.
And if folks in the VMS group we unaware of what was being discussed at
the Hurd/Livvermore level, they couldn't have done anything to fight
such a move.
David J Dachtera
This was fairly "straight from the horse's mouth" for both Cerner and
MiSys (now Sunquest, once again) (senior executives at both companies):
About four years ago, HP went on the road pushing I64. This we all know.
For an OS, however, HP pushed UX and barely - if at all - mentioned VMS.
The vendors interpreted this, rightly or wrongly, as "VMS is
end-of-life" (EOL, i.e. "dead").
Hence, the ISVs came forth to their user bases and announced their
"sunsetting" of support for VMS as a platform OS for new releases of
their products.
Their customer bases responded, in large measure, by choosing IBM and
AIX for their migrations, and the rest, as they say, is history.
D.J.D.