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ron minnich  
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 More options Feb 1 2008, 12:34 am
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From: rminn...@gmail.com (ron minnich)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 05:34:36 GMT
Local: Fri, Feb 1 2008 12:34 am
Subject: [9fans] The $200 walmart "gPC"
seems to run Plan 9 right out of the box. It's an rtl8139, the
graphics work, I am going to transplant the drives to it tomorrow and
see if it all continues to "just work". But the Plan 9 install CD
booted and ran just fine. Seems like a nice fast little machine for
Plan 9. Of course, Plan 9 has graphics up and running before the
delivered OS can get to the point of saying "what language do you
tawk" but that's to be expected.

Nice, I thought I was going to have to host plan 9 under a VM, but it
appears I can just run it.

I did have to make one improvement, however: I had to take a
screwdrive and slash it through the "touch this sticker and void your
warranty" stickers. Standards must, after all, be upheld.

Anybody want a "google desktop" cd :-)

ron


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John Barham  
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 More options Feb 1 2008, 12:48 am
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From: jbar...@gmail.com (John Barham)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 05:48:25 GMT
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Subject: Re: [9fans] The $200 walmart "gPC"

> Seems like a nice fast little machine for Plan 9.

Dirt cheap too.  Even w/ Fry's specials it would be hard to put
together a comparable machine for that amount.

Given that it has VIA's C7 chip which has extra instructions for
crypto, including SHA1
(http://www.via.com.tw/en/initiatives/padlock/), it should make a nice
venti server--although you would probably need to upgrade the 80 GB
drive...  What would be involved in patching Plan 9's libsec to use
the C7's crypto instructions?

  John


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Pietro Gagliardi  
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 More options Feb 1 2008, 6:20 am
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From: pietr...@mac.com (Pietro Gagliardi)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 11:20:15 GMT
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Subject: Re: [9fans] The $200 walmart "gPC"
Strange, I looked at the manufacturer's website - not a mention of  
Plan 9.

On Feb 1, 2008, at 12:47 AM, John Barham wrote:


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Charles Forsyth  
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 More options Feb 1 2008, 6:33 am
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From: fors...@terzarima.net (Charles Forsyth)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 11:33:48 GMT
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Subject: Re: [9fans] The $200 walmart "gPC"

> What would be involved in patching Plan 9's libsec to use
> the C7's crypto instructions?

it didn't look too hard, but there's a bit of work to do in the kernel
to enable it (and enable sse for some instructions).
are there similar things on intel and amd? i haven't really kept up.
no doubt they all use different instructions and conventions so
we'll need an array of implementations.

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Charles Forsyth  
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 More options Feb 1 2008, 6:35 am
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From: fors...@terzarima.net (Charles Forsyth)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 11:35:53 GMT
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Subject: Re: [9fans] The $200 walmart "gPC"

>> Seems like a nice fast little machine for Plan 9.

> Dirt cheap too.  ...

given its spec i was amused by the reviews that refer to it as `underpowered'
(although even Linux should be fine on that)

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mattmob...@proweb.co.uk  
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 More options Feb 1 2008, 7:11 am
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From: mattmob...@proweb.co.uk
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 12:11:46 GMT
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Subject: Re: [9fans] The $200 walmart "gPC"
I've been using a passively cooled 500Mhz C7 in my EPIA 5000 for a few
years as a CPU/Auth see 9fans passim for how pleased I am with it

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erik quanstrom  
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 More options Feb 1 2008, 7:20 am
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From: quans...@quanstro.net (erik quanstrom)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 12:20:49 GMT
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Subject: Re: [9fans] The $200 walmart "gPC"

> Dirt cheap too.  Even w/ Fry's specials it would be hard to put
> together a comparable machine for that amount.

> Given that it has VIA's C7 chip which has extra instructions for
> crypto, including SHA1
> (http://www.via.com.tw/en/initiatives/padlock/), it should make a nice
> venti server--although you would probably need to upgrade the 80 GB
> drive...  What would be involved in patching Plan 9's libsec to use
> the C7's crypto instructions?

we have been getting similar machines for <$150.  they're sold
as thin clients with a gigabyte mainboard and case.  they pxe boot
but don't have power or room for a hard drive.  they work
very well, but i don't think they would make very nice venti
servers with only 10/100 ethernet, regardless of the processor.
a single disk would scare me, too.  i guess i'm just a paranoid
performance weenie.

- erik


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ron minnich  
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 More options Feb 1 2008, 12:05 pm
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From: rminn...@gmail.com (ron minnich)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 17:05:47 GMT
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Subject: Re: [9fans] The $200 walmart "gPC"
On Feb 1, 2008 3:41 AM, Charles Forsyth <fors...@terzarima.net> wrote:

> no doubt they all use different instructions and conventions so
> we'll need an array of implementations.

oh yeah, they are all quite different.

Great fun, eh? And now there is a 64-bit via part.

ron


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