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Microware OS-9  
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 More options Mar 22 2012, 10:39 am
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From: Microware OS-9 <microware...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 07:39:40 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Mar 22 2012 10:39 am
Subject: OS-9 v5.2 for PowerPC, SH4, and X86 is available
Radisys is pleased to announce the release of OS-9 v5.2 for PowerPC, SH4, and X86. This is a free update for customers with a current OS-9 support subscription. Contact your OS-9 sales representative for update information.

Highlights of the v1.3.1 update include:
- Password files can now include encrypted passwords. OS-9 now supports the encryption of passwords that appear in the SYS/password file. Several utilities have been added to support this feature: passutil, useradd, userdel, and usermod.
- USB support improved. The OS-9 Configuration Wizard has been enhanced to better support configuration of the USB. In addition, the drivers were improved to better support USB controller discovery. Now, a single boot can be used on multiple systems with different USB controller configurations.
- Variadic Macros supported. Ultra C/C++ now supports the definition of macros that take a variable number of arguments. This includes support for GNU C extensions that allow for 0 variable arguments and using a name of your choice for the variable arguments.
- Updated time zone database.
- Many maintenance and enhancements have been resolved since the last release.  The Release Notes document for this release is 66 pages.

Other product options include:
- Canbus for OS-9 v5.2
- EtherCAT for OS-9 v5.2
- HawkEye for OS-9 v5.2
- NetSNMP for OS-9 v5.2
- Network Security for OS-9 v5.2
- Reliance File System for OS-9 v5.2
- TrueFFS for OS-9 v5.2
- YAFFS NAND Flash for OS-9 v5.2


 
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KenLoach  
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 More options Aug 31 2012, 8:06 am
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From: KenLoach <k...@loach.fr>
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 14:10:35 +0200
Local: Fri, Aug 31 2012 8:10 am
Subject: Re: OS-9 v5.2 for PowerPC, SH4, and X86 is available
Le 22/03/2012 15:39, Microware OS-9 a crit :

> Radisys is pleased to announce the release of OS-9 v5.2 for PowerPC, SH4, and X86. This is a free update for customers with a current OS-9 support subscription.

Hi Radisys,

Do you plan to release a free version of OS-9 for 68K?
(for hobbyist use)

Best Regards,
Ken


 
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Microware OS-9  
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 More options Aug 31 2012, 10:13 am
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From: Microware OS-9 <microware...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 07:13:25 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Aug 31 2012 10:13 am
Subject: Re: OS-9 v5.2 for PowerPC, SH4, and X86 is available

On Friday, August 31, 2012 7:06:01 AM UTC-5, KenLoach wrote:
> Do you plan to release a free version of OS-9 for 68K?

OS-9 for 68K is still an active selling product. Charging for our products is necessary so we can provide support, make enhancements, and release new versions.

The current release of OS-9 for 68k is v1.3.1. This release has the same compiler (ucc_v3.1) and Hawk as the v5.0 PowerPC/X86/ARM9/SH4/SH4A release. A lot of work went into Hawk before the v5.0 and v1.3.1 releases. Anyone that has not already updated, really should.


 
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Bill Gunshannon  
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 More options Aug 31 2012, 11:13 am
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From: billg...@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)
Date: 31 Aug 2012 15:13:09 GMT
Local: Fri, Aug 31 2012 11:13 am
Subject: Re: OS-9 v5.2 for PowerPC, SH4, and X86 is available
In article <e3139312-b53f-478d-99ee-5971d8ef8f00@googlegroups.com>,
        Microware OS-9 <microware...@gmail.com> writes:

> On Friday, August 31, 2012 7:06:01 AM UTC-5, KenLoach wrote:
>> Do you plan to release a free version of OS-9 for 68K?
> OS-9 for 68K is still an active selling product. Charging for our products is necessary so we can provide support, make enhancements, and release new versions.
> The current release of OS-9 for 68k is v1.3.1. This release has the same compiler (ucc_v3.1) and Hawk as the v5.0 PowerPC/X86/ARM9/SH4/SH4A release. A lot of work went into Hawk before the v5.0 and v1.3.1 releases. Anyone that has not already updated, really should.

Don't suppose there is any chance you might consider releasing the
pre-68K (yes, I mean the 6809 stuff) including source under something
like the GPL or BSD style licenses?  :-)

bill

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Microware OS-9  
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 More options Sep 5 2012, 9:17 am
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From: Microware OS-9 <microware...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 06:17:44 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Sep 5 2012 9:17 am
Subject: Re: OS-9 v5.2 for PowerPC, SH4, and X86 is available

On Friday, August 31, 2012 10:13:10 AM UTC-5, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> Don't suppose there is any chance you might consider releasing the
> pre-68K (yes, I mean the 6809 stuff) including source under something
> like the GPL or BSD style licenses?  :-)

I don't think that is likely.

(ahhhh, fond memories of my first Gimix OS-9 Level 2 system comes flooding back)


 
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Dennis Boone  
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 More options Sep 5 2012, 10:11 am
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From: d...@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone)
Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 09:11:47 -0500
Local: Wed, Sep 5 2012 10:11 am
Subject: Re: OS-9 v5.2 for PowerPC, SH4, and X86 is available
 > On Friday, August 31, 2012 10:13:10 AM UTC-5, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
 > > Don't suppose there is any chance you might consider releasing the
 > > pre-68K (yes, I mean the 6809 stuff) including source under something
 > > like the GPL or BSD style licenses?  :-)

 > I don't think that is likely.

How about a low-cost license for binaries-only of the 6809 stuff?

De


 
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Allan R. Batteiger  
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 More options Sep 6 2012, 10:44 am
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From: "Allan R. Batteiger" <a...@rtsi.com>
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2012 14:44:36 GMT
Local: Thurs, Sep 6 2012 10:44 am
Subject: Re: OS-9 v5.2 for PowerPC, SH4, and X86 is available
d...@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) wrote in news:WYSdnUxlWPY-
wNrNnZ2dnUVZ_r2dn...@giganews.com:

> > On Friday, August 31, 2012 10:13:10 AM UTC-5, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> > > Don't suppose there is any chance you might consider releasing the
> > > pre-68K (yes, I mean the 6809 stuff) including source under something
> > > like the GPL or BSD style licenses?  :-)

> > I don't think that is likely.

> How about a low-cost license for binaries-only of the 6809 stuff?

> De

Dennis
   I think you can find something called Nitro09 arounf that is like OS-9
but is sorta support by some of the old Microware / Coco folks.

Allan R. Batteiger


 
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Dennis Boone  
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 More options Sep 6 2012, 3:54 pm
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From: d...@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone)
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2012 14:54:39 -0500
Local: Thurs, Sep 6 2012 3:54 pm
Subject: Re: OS-9 v5.2 for PowerPC, SH4, and X86 is available
 >    I think you can find something called Nitro09 arounf that is like OS-9
 > but is sorta support by some of the old Microware / Coco folks.

Yup, I'm aware of NitrOS9, etc.  But I think the hobbyist community
would be interested in being able to legitimately run the real thing.
A low-cost hobbyist license for non-commercial use, with no vendor
support, is something that has been very popular amongst DEC equipment
collectors.  As best I've been able to discover, the 6809 product
isn't actually sold any more, though I could _very_ easily have
missed something.

De


 
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Bill Gunshannon  
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 More options Sep 6 2012, 5:02 pm
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From: billg...@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)
Date: 6 Sep 2012 21:02:41 GMT
Local: Thurs, Sep 6 2012 5:02 pm
Subject: Re: OS-9 v5.2 for PowerPC, SH4, and X86 is available
In article <dJmdnaKHYsfiYtXNnZ2dnUVZ_s6dn...@giganews.com>,
        d...@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) writes:

> >    I think you can find something called Nitro09 arounf that is like OS-9
> > but is sorta support by some of the old Microware / Coco folks.

> Yup, I'm aware of NitrOS9, etc.  But I think the hobbyist community
> would be interested in being able to legitimately run the real thing.
> A low-cost hobbyist license for non-commercial use, with no vendor
> support, is something that has been very popular amongst DEC equipment
> collectors.

Since when?  The only DEC (actually former DEC, today HP) OS with a valid
hobbyist license is VMS. There is none for any of the other DEC OSes.

>             As best I've been able to discover, the 6809 product
> isn't actually sold any more, though I could _very_ easily have
> missed something.

And some of us are actually interested in seeing if it could be ported
to other hardware of the same era as the 6809.  But I guess I will be
stuck trying NitrOS9 unless I find it, too, has some sticking point
that makes it not legal.

bill

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Egan Ford  
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 More options Sep 6 2012, 6:49 pm
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From: Egan Ford <dataj...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:49:52 -0600
Local: Thurs, Sep 6 2012 6:49 pm
Subject: Re: OS-9 v5.2 for PowerPC, SH4, and X86 is available
On 9/5/12 7:17 AM, Microware OS-9 wrote:

> I don't think that is likely.

Why?

 
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Martin Gregorie  
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 More options Sep 6 2012, 7:28 pm
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From: Martin Gregorie <mar...@address-in-sig.invalid>
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 23:29:36 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Thurs, Sep 6 2012 7:29 pm
Subject: Re: OS-9 v5.2 for PowerPC, SH4, and X86 is available

On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:49:52 -0600, Egan Ford wrote:
> On 9/5/12 7:17 AM, Microware OS-9 wrote:
>> I don't think that is likely.

> Why?

What makes you think that "Microware OS-9" is anything to do with Radisys?
His e-mail address shows he's posting from Gmail rather than via the
company mailservers, so at best he's posting unofficially.

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Egan Ford  
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 More options Sep 7 2012, 11:51 am
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From: Egan Ford <dataj...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 09:51:26 -0600
Local: Fri, Sep 7 2012 11:51 am
Subject: Re: OS-9 v5.2 for PowerPC, SH4, and X86 is available
On 9/6/12 5:29 PM, Martin Gregorie wrote:

> What makes you think that "Microware OS-9" is anything to do with Radisys?

I do not see where I stated or implied that.  It was a simple question
to someones thought.

 
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Martin Gregorie  
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 More options Sep 7 2012, 2:54 pm
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From: Martin Gregorie <mar...@address-in-sig.invalid>
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 18:55:25 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Fri, Sep 7 2012 2:55 pm
Subject: Re: OS-9 v5.2 for PowerPC, SH4, and X86 is available

On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 09:51:26 -0600, Egan Ford wrote:
> On 9/6/12 5:29 PM, Martin Gregorie wrote:
>> What makes you think that "Microware OS-9" is anything to do with
>> Radisys?

> I do not see where I stated or implied that.  It was a simple question
> to someones thought.

I misplaced my reply: apologies. It was meant to be a reply to Bill
Gunshannon, who appears to believe that "Microware OS-9" is some sort of
vendor rep.

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Egan Ford  
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 More options Sep 7 2012, 3:03 pm
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From: Egan Ford <dataj...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 13:03:51 -0600
Local: Fri, Sep 7 2012 3:03 pm
Subject: Re: OS-9 v5.2 for PowerPC, SH4, and X86 is available
On 9/7/12 12:55 PM, Martin Gregorie wrote:

> I misplaced my reply: apologies. It was meant to be a reply to Bill
> Gunshannon, who appears to believe that "Microware OS-9" is some sort of
> vendor rep.

Ah, no worries.  I made the same error.

 
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Microware OS-9  
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 More options Sep 27 2012, 11:01 am
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From: Microware OS-9 <microware...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 08:01:29 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Sep 27 2012 11:01 am
Subject: Re: OS-9 v5.2 for PowerPC, SH4, and X86 is available
Radisys sells and supports Microware OS-9 through three Value-Added Resellers.

* Freestation in Asia - http://www.freestation.co.jp/
* MicroSys in Europe - http://www.microsys.de/
* RTSI in the North America - http://www.rtsi.com/

In the US, Allan Batteiger is the route to formally request a new kind of license. He has the inside track with the business folks at Radisys.

Me, I just express personal opinions and do not speak for Radisys. But in my opinion, from the little I know of Nitro09, it looks like a violation of Radisys IP.


 
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bo...@tee-boy.com  
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 More options Jan 1, 10:11 pm
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From: bo...@tee-boy.com
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 19:11:48 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Jan 1 2013 10:11 pm
Subject: Re: OS-9 v5.2 for PowerPC, SH4, and X86 is available

How little you know, indeed.

NitrOS-9 (not Nitro09) was started years ago by Bill Noble, Curtis Boyle, and Wes Gale to adapt the then-Tandy version of OS-9 Level Two to the 6309. Some years later, I (Boisy Pitre) and Alan DeKok back-ported it to the 6809, and added community patches and enhancements to it.

In 2003 I contacted RadiSys about releasing the 6809 source in an effort to legitimize the project. It would have been a minor bit of work for them to find the source and release it, but they never acted on the request.

Meanwhile, NitrOS-9 has been extended to support Level 1 (64K) systems and further ported to the Dragon 64, Dragon Tano, CoCo 1 and 2, as well as the Atari 8-bitters using the Liber809 board.

NitrOS-9 is just as good -- no, BETTER than Microware's 6809 version of OS-9. The tools have been written to do cross-assembly and creation of RBF disk images, and additional technologies like DriveWire have been created to allow running NitrOS-9 on 6809 hardware very easy to do.


 
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