IPv6
Dan Drake
IPv6 is that it will have a lot more bits in the address, making it quite
difficult for this planet to exhaust the address space. And one of these
days it's gonna happen. But I've been reading old releases on comp.risks,
and encountered this:
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:42:26 -0400
From: tech...@HQ.ACM.ORG
Subject: Vint Cerf: Big Changes Ahead for the Internet
Mikael Ricknas, IDG News Service, 21 Oct 2008, via ACM TechNews, 24 Oct
2008
Google vice president Vint Cerf predicts that 2008 and 2009 will be the
most
important years for the evolution of the Internet. "This year and the
next
year are probably the most significant years for Internet's evolution that
I
can remember," Cerf says. The most significant change will be the
transition to IPv6, which will offer more address space for the Internet
as
the number of IPv4 addresses are expected to run out in 2010. Cerf notes
that IPv6 also is required to comply with user's requests to go into
encrypted mode. Another large change is the implementation of a more
secure
domain name system that uses Domain Name System Security Extensions
(DNSSECs). DNSSEC ensures that users who use a domain name hookup receive
the correct IP address instead of something from a hacker.
<etc.>
So, how is OS/2 going to fare in this big transition? Are the latest
releases completely compatible with the significant new goodies? Are the
two levels interoperable enough that OS/2 will be able limp along without
the latest goodies? Is stuff being developed to cope with the new
protocols?
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Dave Yeo
[...]
> So, how is OS/2 going to fare in this big transition? Are the latest
> releases completely compatible with the significant new goodies? Are the
> two levels interoperable enough that OS/2 will be able limp along without
> the latest goodies? Is stuff being developed to cope with the new
> protocols?
OS/2 has zero ipv6 support and I personally can't imagine anyone porting
a new IP stack. That would be a big undertaking.
Not sure if there are routers that would take care of the translating or
not but if not then that may well be the death blow for OS/2
Dave, who is hopefully wrong about the above
Bob Eager
I run IPv4 internally, but my 'infrastructure' machines support IPv6 (as
does my ISP). I am moving to support IPv6 externally....but it won't be
needed for a while yet!
Roderick Klein
There are so many devices running IP 4 still most likely all kind of
solutions will popup to support IP4/ip6 transition. But quickly thinking
about it no clue how that would all work :-) The migration will take
longer so many routers etc and software that need updating.
Most likely it will be used on back bones first.
But no IP 6 implementation planned for OS/2. Well eCOmStation right not
now. But that might change, but no plans yet.
Roderick Klein
Mensys
Mark Dodel
wrote:
-> Dan Drake wrote:
-> > I know next to nothing about protocols and how they work. All I know about
-> > IPv6 is that it will have a lot more bits in the address, making it quite
-> > difficult for this planet to exhaust the address space. And one of these
-> > days it's gonna happen. But I've been reading old releases on comp.risks,
-> > and encountered this:
-> >
-> > Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:42:26 -0400
-> > From: tech...@HQ.ACM.ORG
-> > Subject: Vint Cerf: Big Changes Ahead for the Internet
-> >
-> > Mikael Ricknas, IDG News Service, 21 Oct 2008, via ACM TechNews, 24 Oct
-> > 2008
-> >
-> > Google vice president Vint Cerf predicts that 2008 and 2009 will be the
-> > most
-> > important years for the evolution of the Internet. "This year and the
-> > next
-> > year are probably the most significant years for Internet's evolution that
-> > I
-> > can remember," Cerf says. The most significant change will be the
-> > transition to IPv6, which will offer more address space for the Internet
-> > as
-> > the number of IPv4 addresses are expected to run out in 2010. Cerf notes
-> > that IPv6 also is required to comply with user's requests to go into
-> > encrypted mode. Another large change is the implementation of a more
-> > secure
-> > domain name system that uses Domain Name System Security Extensions
-> > (DNSSECs). DNSSEC ensures that users who use a domain name hookup receive
-> > the correct IP address instead of something from a hacker.
-> > <etc.>
-> >
-> > So, how is OS/2 going to fare in this big transition? Are the latest
-> > releases completely compatible with the significant new goodies? Are the
-> > two levels interoperable enough that OS/2 will be able limp along without
-> > the latest goodies? Is stuff being developed to cope with the new
-> > protocols?
-> >
->
-> There are so many devices running IP 4 still most likely all kind of
-> solutions will popup to support IP4/ip6 transition. But quickly thinking
-> about it no clue how that would all work :-) The migration will take
-> longer so many routers etc and software that need updating.
->
-> Most likely it will be used on back bones first.
->
-> But no IP 6 implementation planned for OS/2. Well eCOmStation right not
-> now. But that might change, but no plans yet.
->
I thought that the IPv6 standard maintained compatibility with IPv4?
Not sure how that would work for a v4 system trying to access a v6 web
site though.
Mark
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Sonic Prince
Big snip
> I thought that the IPv6 standard maintained compatibility with IPv4?
> Not sure how that would work for a v4 system trying to access a v6 web
> site though.
You will be able to puchase translation routers.
ie, external = IPv6, internal = IPv4. There are also things like
routers/modems
ment for small business, legacy, and home use that will be IPv6/IPv4
external
and IPv4 internal NAT to 192.168.0.0 etc address space (rfc1918.txt),
with the
v4 to v6 translation occuring in the router itself, just as you can
with current NAT'ed
devices.
IPv6 is not backward compatible with IPv4 in relation to usage and
address space.
you could say its a similiar thing as 64bit to 32bit translation, if
you have a true
64bit piece of hardware, you will need microcode or some other
software to run
32bit stuff on it.
Cheers
IanM
Bob Eager
wrote:
> I thought that the IPv6 standard maintained compatibility with IPv4?
> Not sure how that would work for a v4 system trying to access a v6 web
> site though.
It's possible to have an IPv6 equivalent to any IPv4 address. However,
if you stick to that, there's no point in changing.