Thank you to everyone for your kind words and your help over the years.
-Scott Garfinkle
All the best for the future, and thanks for your dedication to a fine
operating system.
Perce
On 11/26/05 08:41 pm Scott tossed the following ingredients into the
ever-growing pot of cybersoup:
-> Just a quick note for folks who might care. As of 1 December, I'm going to
-> be changing jobs in IBM. I'll be working on Linux. So, you can assume that
-> the days of the "testcase kernel" are over. Sigh. It's been a fun
-> thirteen-year run doing OS/2 support, but it's time to move on. I'll still
-> try to monitor the os2.bugs group sometimes to try to help, if I can.
->
-> Thank you to everyone for your kind words and your help over the years.
->
-> -Scott Garfinkle
->
Scott,
Thanks for all the years of helping us to keep on using OS/2. You've
gone above and beyond to make the kernel updated with new
functionality and freely available. Its been really great to know you
through this group and meet you at past Warpstocks. Are they going to
move the kernel code to a deadend server in India now? I guess now
there will be no one working exclusively on OS/2 anymore.
On the bright side maybe now Linux might become usable.
Mark
--
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http://www.os2voice.org
Warpstock 2005, Hershey, PA, Oct 6-9, 2005 - http://www.warpstock.org
regards,
- dink
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 01:41:20 GMT, Scott wrote:
:Just a quick note for folks who might care. As of 1 December, I'm going to
:
:
Thanks for all the work Scott.
It has been nice knowing you
--
Lorne Sunley
I'll add my thanks as well.
Out of curiousity, which aspect of Linux will you be working on? I look
forward to possibly seeing some more of your contributions on that side.
--
[Reverse the parts of the e-mail address to reply.]
> Just a quick note for folks who might care. As of 1 December, I'm going to
> be changing jobs in IBM. I'll be working on Linux. So, you can assume that
> the days of the "testcase kernel" are over. Sigh. It's been a fun
> thirteen-year run doing OS/2 support, but it's time to move on. I'll still
> try to monitor the os2.bugs group sometimes to try to help, if I can.
Linux gain is OS/2's lose. Thanks for all the fine work over the
years and best of luck with the new hat. I'm sure some of us will
cross paths with you again.
--
Will Honea
Bad news for OS/2 (which I use most of the time) but great news for Linux
(which I use more every day).
Thanks for everything, Scott, and good luck in whatever you do next.
Bob Martin (IBM 1963-2003)
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 11:10:16 UTC, "Peter Weilbacher" <news...@weilbacher.org>
wrote:
> Hi Scott, good luck in your new job. And thanks for the help on all my
> past kernel traps and the time you spent analysing my dump as well as
> for your efforts to help everybody in this group and elsewhere!
>
> I hope that not too many people will take this announcement as another
> opportunity to now turn their back on OS/2 for real. The Netlabs led
> plans that Adrian Gschwend outlined at Warpstock Europe really have the
> potential to take off within the next half year or so, so that we all
> can stay faithful to an OS/2-like UI that we like, probably on top of a
> modern kernel with good driver support.
And precisely how do you propose we deal with kernel bugs in the future?
(Its a shame none of that billion dollar MS settlement trickled down)
Sometimes I wish I owned IBM; sigh....
> And precisely how do you propose we deal with kernel bugs in the future?
If I could just get a copy of that kernel source...!
As for others' questions: My job change is not directly related to the
OS/2-related announcements that IBM has made. Certainly it's indirectly
related, as IBM will not be putting lots of money into OS/2 in the future,
and I wanted to move to a job with more growth potential. In fact, there was
a condition put on my transfer that I had to be made available in crisis
situations.... As to who/how/where OS/2 will be supported, all I can say is
that, at a minimum, customers with contractual support arrangements will
certainly continue to find IBM ready to provide the high standards of
service that IBM (and I!) have insisted on. Seriously.
ttyl, Scott
Well done sir, welcome to the land of OS/3. ;-)
A lot of products I have enjoyed working with did not finish well... at least OS/2 is better polished now than it has been in years. Your effort in making that possible is much appricated.
--
Michael Lueck
Lueck Data Systems
http://www.lueckdatasystems.com/
Remove the upper case letters NOSPAM to contact me directly.
Well, we all owe a super-large thank you to *you*, Scott. Your
helpfulness and responsiveness certainly won't be forgotten.
Good luck with the new job!
--
"I smell blood and an era of prominent madmen." - W.H. Auden
>Thank you to everyone for your kind words and your help over the years.
Thanks to you for all your help and patience over the years.
Regards,
Steven
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Viel Spass damit und denke immer mal an uns :-)
Bernd
--
"Ja, alles meine Herren" sprach Fürst Lichnowsky. "Ooch det roochen?"
"Ja, auch das Rauchen." "Ooch im Tiergarten?" "Ja, auch im Tiergarten
darf geraucht werden, meine Herren." Und so endeten die Barrikadenkämpfe
des 18. März in Berlin
Hi Scott,
it' bad news for us, but I'm sure it's good news for you.
Let me thank you for all the Italian OS/2 - eCS users, and wish you
the best of all lucks.
Now folks, seems we've got to find another solution for our kernel
issues... :-(
Mentore
--
Mentore Siesto
Team OS/2 Italia
>Bob Martin (IBM 1963-2003)
Wow... I'd love to be able to work for a company for that long, but
IT layoffs seem far too common these days (I've had my position at two
different companies terminated in that manner over the past 18 years).
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> http://www.visi.com/~rsteiner >>>---> Mableton, GA USA
OS/2 + eCS + Linux + Win95 + DOS + PC/GEOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
WARNING: I've seen FIELDATA FORTRAN V and I know how to use it!
The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then.
>Just a quick note for folks who might care. As of 1 December, I'm going
>to be changing jobs in IBM. I'll be working on Linux. So, you can assume
>that the days of the "testcase kernel" are over. Sigh. It's been a fun
>thirteen-year run doing OS/2 support, but it's time to move on.
Thanks for the tremendous amount of time and effort you were willing to
put in for us. And good luck in your new position!
Good luck! Hope you drop in every once and awhile.
--
M Greene
IRC (MikeG)
OS/2 Stuff : http://members.cox.net/greenemk/os2/
My OpenWatcom : http://members.cox.net/mikeos2/
Actually, the bit of IBM where I worked was sold to its management in 1994
and shortly after that I was "persuaded" to take early retirement, but another
IBM location invited me to look after some software I'd written for them,
as a part-time contractor.
Add my voice to the chorus: THANKS & GOOD LUCK!
--
WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!
That's a real shame for us, but I suppose it's good news for you. And
certainly for the Linux group. :)
Thanks for all your dedication, support, and professionalism. They, and
you, will be greatly missed.
Hope to see you around at least once in a while... here and there...
--
Alex Taylor
http://www.cs-club.org/~alex
Remove hat to reply (reply-to address).
> As for others' questions: My job change is not directly related to the
> OS/2-related announcements that IBM has made. Certainly it's indirectly
> related, as IBM will not be putting lots of money into OS/2 in the future,
not to be polemic, but they never did, also in the past...
my best regards
Massimo
> Bad news for OS/2 (which I use most of the time) but great news for Linux
> (which I use more every day).
i personally see IBM only as a serious threat for Linux, certainly not a great news...
just look what they did with Lotus Smartsuite, OS/2, Vage and so on...
hope for Linux users and professionals that IBM will not destroy Linux as they did
with a lot of other software in the past...
--
Massimo
- eCS Irc Network irc.ecomstation.it chans: #eCS #eCSita
- http://www.ecomstation.com http://www.teamos2.it
> And precisely how do you propose we deal with kernel bugs in the future?
>
> (Its a shame none of that billion dollar MS settlement trickled down)
>
> Sometimes I wish I owned IBM; sigh....
and who own IBM nowadays?
i've my own clear personal opinions...
>
> > Thank you to everyone for your kind words and your help over the years.
> >
> > -Scott Garfinkle
>
> Hi Scott,
> it' bad news for us, but I'm sure it's good news for you.
>
> Let me thank you for all the Italian OS/2 - eCS users, and wish you
> the best of all lucks.
add to the thanks me too :)
loosing professionals like Scott is a real pity, even if the development was allmost
"freezed" in the last years...
I will do my best not to destroy Linux as much as I did with OS/2. ok?
> Now folks, seems we've got to find another solution for our kernel
> issues... :-(
I haven't really seen an actual kernel defect in a while, as opposed to
issues with JFS, shell,
power management, USB, and cd/dvd stuff.
If something really ugly DOES come up in the os/2 kernel, I'll probably hear
about it....
At any rate, good luck with whatever you guys come up with!
-Scott
> add to the thanks me too :)
> loosing professionals like Scott is a real pity, even if the development
> was allmost
> "freezed" in the last years...
Thanks, Massimo -- there is one advantage to nearly-frozen development,
though -- I didn't break too much stuff! <g>
All I can do is join the long row of people saying thank you. Good to
know that in case of emergency IBM might still call you back.
Thanks for helping out all of these years.
Roderick Klein
If you destroy Linux the way you destroyed OS/2, there'd probably be
quite a few less of us in the OS/2 newsgroups by now. ;-)
--
[Reverse the parts of the e-mail address to reply.]
ehm...
i strongly believe you as professional are an excellent coder and you are/were
very precious for the development and support of OS/2, instead i meant the
IBM'politics to bash OS/2 (like other products, e.g. Vage, SmartSuite and so on...)
everyone know, you surely better than me, all the damages that the "cookie-man"
did to your Company
sorry for the misunderstanding
bye
Michal
> Sigh. It's been a fun
> thirteen-year run doing OS/2 support, but it's time to move on.
Hey Scott, thanks for all your contributions over the years. As one who's also
changed jobs from doing one thing for several years to something almost entirely
different I can thoroughly recommend it - it rekindles your interest in the job
and makes life more interesting all round. Hope you enjoy whatever's next.
(Ex-MVS/ESA sysprog, ex-Email/Notes support technician, ex-ethical hacker,
current Linux Sysadmin/DBA)
--
Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK.
Trevor-Hemsley at dsl dot pipex dot com
> Hey Scott, thanks for all your contributions over the years.
Hear, hear...thanks from here, too...!
> (Ex-MVS/ESA sysprog, ex-Email/Notes support technician, ex-ethical hacker,
> current Linux Sysadmin/DBA)
I've managed to change jobs a lot while staying with the same employer!
(ex-kernel designer/hacker, ex-VMS-device driver writer,
ex-compiler-writer, ex-counsellor, ex-student discipline enforcer,
administrator, all the while teaching OS kernel theory..!)
> sorry for the misunderstanding
No problem. Thanks for understanding and for the kind words.
-Scott
You wrote:
> Just a quick note for folks who might care. .....
We care. I care. Over the years, through some wierd
times, in the midst of strange problems, in spite of
working for one of Big Brother's relatives, you have
shown that you have cared. Thank you, and the best
to you for the future.
John.
P.S. In a much lighter vein, just to cheer up the
situation, you couldn't get someone to slip us the
source code, could you ?
My eCS will certainly miss you.
> It's been a fun
> thirteen-year run doing OS/2 support, but it's time to move on. I'll still
> try to monitor the os2.bugs group sometimes to try to help, if I can.
>
> Thank you to everyone for your kind words and your help over the years.
You made a great effort. Thank you and bon Linux voyage!
Cheers,
Martin
> -Scott Garfinkle
>
>
Michal
I knew, as soon as I posted that, that someone would pick up my (lack of)
grammar! ;-) Still ethical, still a hacker, just not an ethical hacker anymore.
Like one last "testcase" kernel with a complete build environment so
that we users can debug to our heart's content :-)
--
Lorne Sunley
> Thank you to everyone for your kind words and your help over the years.
>
> -Scott Garfinkle
>
We OS2 users need to thank you for your dedication and efforts to
keep OS2 in the mainstream. We will miss that. Good Luck to you.
Willard
--
Scott;
I really appreciate ALL THAT YOU HAVE DONE for OS/2, and the OS/2 Kernel.
Does your "replacement" know "how big of shoes" they need to fill?? Are
they going to "carry on" with the same diligence that you did???
On a more "sorrowful note", I would hope that IBM (or some sympathetic
soul) would leave some "droppings" of the OS/2 Kernel, rather than have
it totally disappear into "bit heaven".. (When it comes time to "Flip
the BIG RED SWITCH")
MarkO, OS/2 user since JUN-1993, OS/2 2.10.........
> Does your "replacement" know "how big of shoes" they need to fill?? Are
> they going to "carry on" with the same diligence that you did???
What makes you think there is a replacement? It will not "carry on"
unless Scott works on some PMRs.
> Just a quick note for folks who might care. As of 1 December, I'm going to
> be changing jobs in IBM. I'll be working on Linux. So, you can assume that
> the days of the "testcase kernel" are over. Sigh. It's been a fun
> thirteen-year run doing OS/2 support, but it's time to move on. I'll still
> try to monitor the os2.bugs group sometimes to try to help, if I can.
Just like everyone else here, I hate to see you go, but wish you
luck and pleasure in your new assignment!
> Thank you to everyone for your kind words and your help over the years.
Thank YOU for your support!
Regards, JvW
--
Jan van Wijk; Author of DFSee: http://www.dfsee.com
I'm starting into that trend as well.
(ex OS/2-LAN admin/support guy, ex-SPARC/Solaris system admin, ex-support
guy for financial transaction software, ex-Notes server tech, current SAN
engineering/reporting guy, probably to change soon yet again.)
(And that's just in the 8 years since graduation. All the same employer.)
Ken
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 01:41:20 UTC, "Scott"
<scott...@boguspart.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Just a quick note for folks who might care. As of 1 December, I'm going to
> be changing jobs in IBM. I'll be working on Linux. So, you can assume that
> the days of the "testcase kernel" are over. Sigh. It's been a fun
> thirteen-year run doing OS/2 support, but it's time to move on. I'll still
> try to monitor the os2.bugs group sometimes to try to help, if I can.
>
> Thank you to everyone for your kind words and your help over the years.
>
> -Scott Garfinkle
>
>
--
I want to join the chorus with my thanks! It is possible that what
you were doing with the kernel increased the "useful lifespan" of this
wonderful piece of software by several years.
So it is a sad news for many of us - and the only possibility to
increase the total amount of joy in the world is that you should have
an ENORMOUS amount of fun on your new job!
Best of wishes,
Ilya
Thanks for all the work Scott and good luck with your future tasks!
Mike
First of all, a big "Thank you" for all of your efforts. And I wish you
all the best for the future (even if that means Linux ;-) OTOH, with
Linux you're no longer going to run into roadblocks imposed by demands
not to put compatibility with existing in danger, just like the
situation with the OS/2 kernel is. Too bad that this means the kernel
will stay forever as it is...
Good luck for what's coming next!
Ciao,
Dani
You are the best....
Good to hear the Linux world will be recipient of your talents!
...eric
Thank you, and best of luck.
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As with the rest of the OS/2 community, I'm downhearted to see you go.
8(
However, the blow was somewhat softened when I read that you're still
tethered, (albeit thinly), and can be brought back to us in
emergencies... hmm does 64-bit implementation constitute an emergency?
8)
Your work on the kernel has pumped blood into the heart of the OS/2
community and for this we thank you. *salutes*
Have good luck with the new work and with life in general.
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See you around asking desperate questions about traps & searching for
wise advices when in troubles, now that you became an ordinary OS/2 user :D
I've always wondered whether you're using a normal or a fancy build of
os2krnl... :)
Once again, best whishes!
Radu
--
remove the BOGUS from the e-mail address; then go to www.netlabs.org ;)
> I've always wondered whether you're using a normal or a fancy build of
> os2krnl... :)
I always try to eat what I cook. <g>
Scott wrote:
> Just a quick note for folks who might care. As of 1 December, I'm going to
> be changing jobs in IBM. I'll be working on Linux. So, you can assume that
> the days of the "testcase kernel" are over. Sigh. It's been a fun
> thirteen-year run doing OS/2 support, but it's time to move on. I'll still
> try to monitor the os2.bugs group sometimes to try to help, if I can.
>
> Thank you to everyone for your kind words and your help over the years.
I'm sorry to see you leave OS/2 development, but all good things have to
end eventually :-( Good luck in your new position working on Linux !
Thank you and good luck.
Gordon Snider
Toronto, Canada
Best wishes and thanks a lot for your expert help. Where ever you go you will
do great
Warmest regards,
-=terry (Denver)=-
chus...@attglobal.net
AIM: terryXela