Usenet Legends ªºªandca®ole ???? ??? <
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wrote:
>frank mccoy considers himself a "civil rights leader" for his foolish
>stance on pedophile stories.
Um ... Not quite.
My stance is an anti-censorship stance; not pro-pedophile.
Rather like people who support abortion *rights* are not pro-abortion,
like the anti-abortion groups try to portray them as being.
But yes, I deliberately *picked* subjects that I figured a lot of
people, especially the anti-sex people, would find most offensive; and
combined the lot of them as much as I could in a lot of my stories.
After all, nobody is going to arrest you for "disseminating obscene
material"; the law I set out to fight, if you write sticky-sweet
stories like "Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm".
The point I was trying to make was: Even "Obscene" writing
is/was/should-be protected under the First Amendment of the
Constitution. If nobody objects to what I'm writing or posting, then
how can I challenge the Law? The Supreme Court doesn't ALLOW
challenges to any law where the enforcement doesn't hurt you
personally. You have to have "standing" to get relief.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_%28law%29
Thus I needed to be charged under the statute I'm trying to fight for
it to be decided as a Constitutional Issue; and face REAL punishment
under said law.
So ... with that requirement, I did my best to see to it that I WOULD
be so-charged during a time I was well-prepared to fight the issue.
Thus my very first story included as much as possible to annoy the
blue-noses (like you) while still remaining art, literature, humor,
political satire, and a love-story with no pain or force in it.
"As much as possible" including the subjects:
Incest
Parent/child (both sexual variants)
Young Sibling
Adult sibling
Aunt/uncle-nephew/niece
Grandparent/grandchild
Etc.
Pedophilia (young people enjoying sex)
Bestiality
Miscegenation
Power situations
Teacher/student
Boss/employee
Etc.
Sexual variations
Oral
Anal
"straight sex"
Homosexual
And anything else I could fit into the story with a shoehorn.
All deliberately NOT leaving out the squishy in-and-out details like
most "Romance Novels" (often called "soft porn) usually do; but
instead drawing out each sexual encounter and penetration to the
ultimate detail.
After all, the intent was to OFFEND "delicate sensibilities"; while
still remaining a damned good story (or, at least the best I could
possibly write).
So, yes that story (and those who followed) deliberately *IS* by the
standards of people like B&C who think that reality about sex should
be hidden and never spoken-of, a "flood of filth hits you in the face"
and "inappropriate garbage involving sex with family members and
children". For that's exactly what it's *intended to be*!
Otherwise it wouldn't do the job it was written for.
By the standards of those who think sex-stories should be stories
about SEX, and not bowdlerized into something you can only make out
what's going on by reading DEEP "between the lines" or over the
asterisks, those stories are like cracking the window and letting a
breath of fresh air into a room that's been shut up tight for decades
or even centuries.
"Children" actually DO have sex before they turn 18.
Many, if not most children DO have sex with family members.
(Family members being the most *convenient* for sexual
experimentation.)
Boys being boys, many DO experiment with both sexes when they can.
Sex between people of different color DOES happen.
And yes, people, even young girls under 18, DO get pregnant!
Etc.
And yes, a *LOT* more goes on between a man and a woman (or boy and
girl) than just vanishing into a bedroom one night; and then a baby
magically appears nine months later. Leaving out the "juicy details"
is like snipping the Gettysburg Address and leaving out everything in
the middle between: "We are gathered here to" and "perish from the
earth."
No ... I don't *quite* consider myself a "civil rights leader".
I DO however (and did) decide that it was my Civic Duty to fight for a
cause that nobody else seemed willing to stand up for, because the
cause was socially unpopular; just like much earlier in life I found
it my Civic Duty to volunteer in the Marines.
However, to be a leader of any kind, even or especially a "civil
rights leader", you need *followers* ... Specifically people willing
to stand in the line-of-fire and face down the law; like the people
went down south and faced-down water-cannons and arrest during
protests against discrimination.
I have lots, thousands actually, or *supporters*; but not much in the
way of those willing to face being arrested, lose money or material
goods, or even jail-time; and certainly not death, just to stand up
for a point of law protecting unpopular speech and writing.
But then, the POINT of supporting any right, is to support the right
even in cases you particularly don't like. Thus, while I outright
*despise* the American Nazi Party, and nearly-as-much NAMBLA, I
support their *RIGHT* to speak up and argue their positions.
"I may disagree with what you have to say; but I will defend to the
death your right to SAY it."
Thus, THIS case.
And, since nobody ELSE seems willing to "say it" in the face of
criminal prosecution, as the above expression states, I feel it my
Civic Duty to do so.
I'm trapped if I want to maintain my integrity.
Still, B&C does have ONE point:
Yes, I actually *DO* enjoy writing and even reading the type of
stories I post, about young people having, enjoying, and learning
about sex ... at the ages most of us actually begin to DO such things!
Stories about men and women supposedly having their very first sexual
encounter at the magical age of 18 with a complete stranger and far
from home; and then suddenly finding it an exhilarating experience,
rarely ring true ... to me, at least.
Especially so when you consider the statistics of where and when MOST
people have their first sexual experience ... and if you don't believe
THAT, then look at statistics about how many girls UNDER the age of 18
actually HAVE had sex; and even babies.
Percent of teens who claim to have had sex, by age:
Age Boys Girls
14 7.9% 5.7%
15 14.6% 13.0%
16 25.3% 26.8%
17 39.4% 43.1%
18 54.3% 58.0%
19 65.2% 70.1%
Sexually active girls aged 15–19, and percent of how recently they
have been sexually active:
Age at 1st sex Last 12 months Last 3 months Once ever
14 & under 89.0% 77.3% 5.1%
15–16 89.3% 76.1% 10.6%
17–19 96.3% 73.2% 11.6%
Source Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolescent_sexuality_in_the_United_States
And:
"Girls will most likely lose their virginity to a boy who is 1 to 3
years older than they are. According to one study, almost 14 percent
of teens lose their virginity in June, the most common month.
The teen's home, their partner's home or a friend's house is the most
common place for virginity to be lost, with 68% of teens losing their
virginity in one of those three places. The same study found that
"the likelihood of a first sexual experience happening will increase
with the number of hours a day teens spend unsupervised."
That, of course, being why incest, though widely condemned, actually
is fairly common ... at least among appropriately-aged siblings where
the boy is just a few years older than the girl. It's just *easier*.
Making ALL sex-stories ignore the reality that most (54%) people DO
actually have sex at an earlier age; and some at a FAR earlier age, is
sheer stupidity and the result of allowing people who despise sex to
denigrate one of the most wonderful things the universe has to offer
... Usually in the completely mistaken impression that their religion
says so ... When in-fact, it does NOT!!!
Sometime READ the Bible (or Qu'ran) and see the actual ages of which
men and women in those "Holy Books" found mates and started having sex
and babies.
HINT: It was *NOT* eighteen!
(Mary was pregnant with jesus and married at 13 at the very latest;
and was likely actually only 12 years old or even younger. Muhammed
married Aisha when she was FIVE; and had sexual relations with the
girl when she was nine. Note: That does *NOT* make either Muhammed or
Joseph into "pedophiles" as some people accuse; as such marriages were
not only quite common in those days; but even *expected*!)
The modern definition of "pedophilia" is actually VERY recent, even in
the USA. In times before the middle of the 1800s, getting married at
12 or 13 was close to normal. Sometime go look up your own genealogy
and see the distance between one generation and the next with your
great or great-great grandparents; especially the female-half.
Nowadays, to make sexual attraction to what once was/would-have-been a
normal and very desirable mate for most men into something seen as
filthy and obscene, just shows how far from reality our society has
pushed things.
Shit ... I'm rambling again; as I do when my chain gets pulled.
Yet more propaganda ... Sorry.
Note: BEING propaganda, even political propaganda, doesn't make
something untrue.
The soapbox is empty.
NEXT!
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