Is Modem DOS Compatible?
Richard Bonner
I have a choice to buy one of two modem cards for an HP Pavilion 3438
laptop. I have been hunting around the Internet to see if either is Hayes
compatible but have only found ambiguity. Has anyone any experience with
an "XJEM3336" or "XJEM3288" modem under DOS?
I am using DR-DOS 7.03 and will be using a terminal program (Pro-Comm
Plus) on a dial-up landline.
--
Richard Bonner
http://www.chebucto.ca/~ak621/DOS/
Mike S.
In article <hf10t8$c71$1...@Kil-nws-1.UCIS.Dal.Ca>,
Richard Bonner <ak...@chebucto.ns.ca> wrote:
>Hello, All.
>
> I have a choice to buy one of two modem cards for an HP Pavilion 3438
>laptop. I have been hunting around the Internet to see if either is Hayes
>compatible but have only found ambiguity. Has anyone any experience with
>an "XJEM3336" or "XJEM3288" modem under DOS?
>
> I am using DR-DOS 7.03 and will be using a terminal program (Pro-Comm
>Plus) on a dial-up landline.
These are Megahertz (subsequently absorbed by 3Com/USRobotics) modems; the
3336 is newer. Both are "DOS compatible" but: You will need either "Card
and Socket Services" plus a modem driver, or a standalone "enabler" program
to allocate the COM port.
Don Phillipson
news:hf10t8$c71$1...@Kil-nws-1.UCIS.Dal.Ca...
> Hello, All.
>
> I have a choice to buy one of two modem cards for an HP Pavilion 3438
> laptop. I have been hunting around the Internet to see if either is Hayes
> compatible but have only found ambiguity. Has anyone any experience with
> an "XJEM3336" or "XJEM3288" modem under DOS?
>
> I am using DR-DOS 7.03 and will be using a terminal program (Pro-Comm
> Plus) on a dial-up landline.
Pamphlet about the XJEM3336T says:
"For more detailed product specifications, call
(800) 527-8677 or visit the U.S. Robotics Website at
w w w. m e g a h e rt z . c o m /"
You would not think any PCI wireless cards sold new
this century would be DOS compatible or have DOS drivers.
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)
Richard Bonner
into a new apartment, so I have not yet pursued this very far. However,
the store owner is willing to let me try both modems and to return the one
I don't want.
I will post a followup with the method that worked once I get some time
to try each modem and the suggested solutions.
BillW50
> Thanks for the help, guys. I got busy with work and have just moved
> into a new apartment, so I have not yet pursued this very far. However,
> the store owner is willing to let me try both modems and to return the one
> I don't want.
>
> I will post a followup with the method that worked once I get some time
> to try each modem and the suggested solutions.
Ever try the old, tried, and true *best* DOS modem? Many dialup servers
use banks of these.
US Robotics 56K Modem 5686E - 56 Kbps Fax / modem - serial RS-232
--
Bill
Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) - Windows XP SP2
Richard Bonner
> Ever try the old, tried, and true *best* DOS modem? Many dialup servers
> use banks of these.
> US Robotics 56K Modem 5686E - 56 Kbps Fax / modem - serial RS-232
> --
> Bill
*** Will it fit the card slot on my HP laptop?
That aside, I have used USR modems over the years and have always had
good success with them.
~misfit~
> BillW50 (Bil...@aol.kom) wrote:
>> Ever try the old, tried, and true *best* DOS modem? Many dialup
>> servers use banks of these.
>
>> US Robotics 56K Modem 5686E - 56 Kbps Fax / modem - serial RS-232
>> --
>> Bill
>
> *** Will it fit the card slot on my HP laptop?
LOL, only if your 'card slot' is the size of a hardback book and connects
via a serial port.
> That aside, I have used USR modems over the years and have always
> had good success with them.
USR make/made good hardware dialup modems.
--
Shaun.
"Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day. But set fire to him and he's
warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchet, 'Jingo'.
Richard Bonner
> These are Megahertz (subsequently absorbed by 3Com/USRobotics) modems;
> the 3336 is newer. Both are "DOS compatible" but: You will need either
> "Card and Socket Services" plus a modem driver, or a standalone
> "enabler" program to allocate the COM port.
*** I finally had some free time and picked up the two modems today. I
went to Google and spent the last 80 minutes trying to find drivers or an
enabler. All I saw was lots of documentation and discussion, but no
downloads of executables save for one. It was 39 MB! So I knew it was for
bloatware and not DOS.
Can someone point me toward a site that might have an install disc or
DOS services/drivers for the XJEM3336?
Richard Bonner
> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Richard Bonner wrote:
> > BillW50 (Bil...@aol.kom) wrote:
> >> Ever try the old, tried, and true *best* DOS modem? Many dialup
> >> servers use banks of these.
> >
> >> US Robotics 56K Modem 5686E - 56 Kbps Fax / modem - serial RS-232
> >> --
> >> Bill
> >
> > *** Will it fit the card slot on my HP laptop?
> LOL, only if your 'card slot' is the size of a hardback book and connects
> via a serial port.
> --
> Shaun.
*** Hmm, no... (-:
The HP has a serial port but I connect a trackball to it. I could use
it for modem purposes, but I don't want the bulk of an outboard modem when
carting around a laptop.
Pen
> Hello, All.
>
> I have a choice to buy one of two modem cards for an HP Pavilion 3438
> laptop. I have been hunting around the Internet to see if either is Hayes
> compatible but have only found ambiguity. Has anyone any experience with
> an "XJEM3336" or "XJEM3288" modem under DOS?
>
> I am using DR-DOS 7.03 and will be using a terminal program (Pro-Comm
> Plus) on a dial-up landline.
>
was introduced too late to have DOS drivers. There are
drivers for all sorts of Windows versions.
Mike S.
In article <hfu8kp$im9$1...@Kil-nws-1.UCIS.Dal.Ca>,
Check your email. You could probably use the standalone PCMCIA enabler
program as, IIRC, the port interface never changed throughout the lifetime
of this product line.
BillW50
> Check your email. You could probably use the standalone PCMCIA enabler
> program as, IIRC, the port interface never changed throughout the lifetime
> of this product line.
Just a word of warning Mike to be prepared. I know of nobody that has a
problem with your reference to PCMCIA at all, except one. And this one
might give you a hard time about it. But just ignore them when they slap
your hand and tell you that it is called a PC Card and not a PCMCIA
card, ok? Personally I thought we got over the days of witch hunts
myself. ;-)
Mike S.
In article <hfute9$f4a$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
Bill, I have pretty thick skin after almost 20 years on Usenet. You're
right, of course, on the technicality ... but I'm willing to bet that in
the readme files the software authors probably refer to the interface as
PCMCIA themselves ... so there :-)
Frank Slootweg
Well, there are clueless people everywhere! Not all PCMCIA cards are
PC Cards. Reason: It was a tad hard to name them after a standard which
*didn't exist* yet.
Also the term "PCMCIA card" is never *wrong*, only - from PCMCIA 2.0
on - the term "PC Card" is the *easier*/*preferred* term.
For the *real* story, see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PC_card>.
GEO
(Richard Bonner) wrote:
>.... Has anyone any experience with an "XJEM3336" or "XJEM3288" modem under DOS?
>Mike S. (rets...@xinap.moc) wrote:
>> These are Megahertz (subsequently absorbed by 3Com/USRobotics) modems;
>> the 3336 is newer. Both are "DOS compatible" but: You will need either
>> "Card and Socket Services" plus a modem driver, or a standalone
>> "enabler" program to allocate the COM port.
> Can someone point me toward a site that might have an install disc or
>DOS services/drivers for the XJEM3336?
Hello,
I have a diskette that might have what you need:
Megahertz 33.6 Ethernet Modem (1996), but I don't see any clear
indication that it would work. I guess I could try it in my old
laptop (with DOS 6.2).
Quote:
10. Setting Up Your XJEM3288 or CCEM3288 PC Card Using DOS
This section explains how to set up the LAN portion of your Card
without running Setup and without using Windows.
>>>BillW50 wrote:
>>>...just ignore them when they slap your hand and tell you that it is
>>>called a PC Card and not a PCMCIA card, ok?
One of my floppies says: PC Card Modem (Dell, Motorola 1997), but
another says: PCMCIA Card Configuration(AST Research 1992). I didn't
know that they had been re-named somewhere in between.
Geo
Richard Bonner
*** Not so. The card did indeed came with an Enabler and DOS drivers.
Richard Bonner
*** Yup. One of the sentences is:
"The Megahertz PCMCIA Card Setup v1.00 Control
screen will appear."
Richard Bonner
> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:04:41 +0000 (UTC), ak...@chebucto.ns.ca
> > Richard asked:
> > Can someone point me toward a site that might have an install disc or
> > DOS services/drivers for the XJEM3336?
> I have a diskette that might have what you need:
> Megahertz 33.6 Ethernet Modem (1996), but I don't see any clear
> indication that it would work. I guess I could try it in my old
> laptop (with DOS 6.2).
*** Thanks for the offer but Tony C, a local friend of mine e-mailed me
the .zip file with everything I needed. (Mike S: Thanks for your effort,
but no e-mail from you showed up.)
> Quote:
> 10. Setting Up Your XJEM3288 or CCEM3288 PC Card Using DOS
> This section explains how to set up the LAN portion of your Card
> without running Setup and without using Windows.
> Geo
*** That is the file I got from Tony. SETUP.exe is a Windoze file, but
ENABLER.exe is.
For those that care, here is what I went through:
1/ Created an MHTZ directory in my C:\SYSTEM directory.
2/ Copied the downloaded .zip file into it and expanded it.
3/ After a no-go with SETUP.exe, I ran ENABLER.exe with various switches,
but it did not work.
4/ Read README.txt more carefully and then opened an area in memory by
using an "Exclude" switch in my CONFIG.sys QEMM line from D000
through D0FF.
5/ That worked. As per my request, ENABLE gave me a COM 2, IRQ 3 port
and allowed ProComm Plus to access it as a standard modem.
6/ Spent a bit of time with batch files and Aspect scripts to allow me to
have "one touch" dial-up to any of my three Internet accounts.
--------
I have a few bugs to work out and a few more steps to automate the
process down to a minimum of input from myself, but I am currently at work
using my laptop to type the followups in this thread. Woo Hoo! Thanks
everyone! (-:
Barry Watzman
The name was changed in the mid 1990's.
Richard Bonner
> > Mike S. (rets...@xinap.moc) wrote:
(Re: "PCMCIA" versus "PC Card)")
*** I checked; the DOS Enabler has a date of September, 1996.
> The name was changed in the mid 1990's.
*** What was the reason?
Frank Slootweg
[...]
> > The name was changed in the mid 1990's.
>
> *** What was the reason?
That "PCMCIA" was too hard to remember/use, i.e. a marketing aspect.
For the full story, see the Wikipedia reference which I gave before
(<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PC_card>).
Mike S.
In article <7osc8gF...@mid.individual.net>,
Frank Slootweg <th...@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
>Richard Bonner <ak...@chebucto.ns.ca> wrote:
>[...]
>
>> > The name was changed in the mid 1990's.
>>
>> *** What was the reason?
>
> That "PCMCIA" was too hard to remember/use, i.e. a marketing aspect.
I always thought it was to be more accurately descriptive. The PCMCIA spec
was for memory cards ... how do you explain labelling a modem with that
interface in the design?
Richard Bonner
> Frank Slootweg <th...@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
> >> > The name was changed in the mid 1990's.
> >>
> >> *** What was the reason?
> >
> > That "PCMCIA" was too hard to remember/use, i.e. a marketing aspect.
> I always thought it was to be more accurately descriptive. The PCMCIA spec
> was for memory cards ... how do you explain labelling a modem with that
> interface in the design?
*** That is my thinking, too, Mike. The uses grew beyond what the name
originally meant.