I have a directory on my drive that will not go away.  When I try to delete it through the filemanager,
it says there is a system, hidden, or read only file named e_Naviga.tor.  Do you want to delete?  YES.  
"File Manager cannot delete c:\SAVE\e_Naviga.tor: File Manger cannot find the specified file."
I don't know HOW a file with that kind of name got on my drive in the first place.  I tried a *.* del from
dos with no luck.  Ive tried downloading a few file utilities but none have been able to iradicate this
demon.  Any suggestions?

thanks

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In article <3kso8l$...@desiree.teleport.com>,
   wi...@teleport.com (William Wardy) wrote:

it through the filemanager,
you want to delete?  YES.  
place.  I tried a *.* del from
been able to iradicate this

From the command line in the Save subdirectory use the command attrib <file
name> [return].  That should show you the arrtibutes of that file such as: a
(archive), s (system), r(read only) or h(hidden).  You can then change the
attribute of that file using the attrib command.  For example: attrib -r -h -s
<file name> will remove those attributes from that file which can keep the
file from being deleted.  Having done that, you may delete the file.

Aslam Hassan

   wi...@teleport.com (William Wardy) writes:

Personally, I don't think the problem is the attributes of the file;
more likely, this is a file for which there is an entry in your file
allocation table, but which doesn't actually exist on your hard drive.

First, try the rename command; rename it anything, such as thefile.xxx,
then try deleting it by that name. If that doesn't work, you may need
something like Norton Disk Editor to get rid of it.

It comes with the Norton Utilities, and describes how to get rid of
'stubborn' files like the one you describe. I've used it several times
myself.

Invalid FAT entries, such as I suspect this is, are sometimes the result
of crashes. They are also occasionally left behind by some of those
CD-ROM 'test drive' disks as a way of making sure you don't use the
limited runtime software over and over again.

Do you, btw, happen to be using a Packard-Bell computer with the
'Navigator' shell substituted for Program Mgr.? If you shut off the
computer with Windows running, that may be the source of your problem.

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This last tip is good advice - I had the same problem as the original
poster with a file called _rn - I couldn't rename it or change the
attribrutes, but the command "deltree C:\mavis\_rn" in dos worked like a
charm... thanks.

Al

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In article <3kso8l$...@desiree.teleport.com>, wi...@teleport.com (William
Wardy) says:
delete it through the filemanager,
 Do you want to delete?  YES.  
find the specified file."
first place.  I tried a *.* del from
have been able to iradicate this
refused to go off the hard drive.  The click on FILE...then PROPERTIES,
and change the file from read only to archive.  PEACE.  YoYo

In <3kso8l$...@desiree.teleport.com> wi...@teleport.com (William Wardy) writes:

:I have a directory on my drive that will not go away.  When I try to delete it through the filemanager,
:it says there is a system, hidden, or read only file named e_Naviga.tor.  Do you want to delete?  YES.
:"File Manager cannot delete c:\SAVE\e_Naviga.tor: File Manger cannot find the specified file."
:I don't know HOW a file with that kind of name got on my drive in the first place.  I tried a *.* del from
:dos with no luck.  Ive tried downloading a few file utilities but none have been able to iradicate this
:demon.  Any suggestions?

:thanks

        Have you tried the "deltree <dir>" command?  I believe the deltree
command doesn't give a hoot about file attributes.

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And if that doesn't work alone, do the above first, then use wildcards
for any unusual characters.  You might, for example, use
"del e??aviga.tor".
None of the characters you show should be a problem, but sometimes,
they look normal and aren't.  Good luck.

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It's always possible that the filename contains lower-case letters. DOS
converts all command lines to uppercase, so if the filename is e_NAVIGA.TOR
(on disk, that is) DOS will not find it. You will need to use a disk sector
editor like Norton's DiskEdit to change the lowercase letter to an uppercase.
Then DOS can delete it.

**Note: Windows suffers from the same Upper/Lower case conflict

Dave.

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: In article <3l2us3$...@cc-server9.massey.ac.nz> R.R.Alexan...@massey.ac.nz (Rob Alexander) writes:
: >a-has...@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Aslam Hassan) wrote:
: >>In article <3kso8l$...@desiree.teleport.com>,
: >>   wi...@teleport.com (William Wardy) wrote:
: >>>I have a directory on my drive that will not go away.  When I try to delete
: >>it through the filemanager,
: >>>it says there is a system, hidden, or read only file named e_Naviga.tor.  Do

: It's always possible that the filename contains lower-case letters. DOS
: converts all command lines to uppercase, so if the filename is e_NAVIGA.TOR
: (on disk, that is) DOS will not find it. You will need to use a disk sector
: editor like Norton's DiskEdit to change the lowercase letter to an uppercase.
: Then DOS can delete it.
In this case a simpler solution than a sector editor is:
DEL ?_NAVIGA.TOR

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In article <David.Rawling.25.00316...@efs.mq.edu.au>,
   David.Rawl...@efs.mq.edu.au (David Rawling) wrote:
:In article <3l2us3$...@cc-server9.massey.ac.nz>
:>>In article <3kso8l$...@desiree.teleport.com>,
:>>   wi...@teleport.com (William Wardy) wrote:
:>>>I have a directory on my drive that will not go away.  When I try
to delete
:>>it through the filemanager,
:>>>it says there is a system, hidden, or read only file named
e_Naviga.tor.  Do
:>>you want to delete?  YES.  
:>>>"File Manager cannot delete c:\SAVE\e_Naviga.tor: File Manger
cannot find the
:>>specified file."
:>>>I don't know HOW a file with that kind of name got on my drive in
the first
:>>place.  I tried a *.* del from
:>>>dos with no luck.  Ive tried downloading a few file utilities but
none have
:>>been able to iradicate this
:>>>demon.  Any suggestions?
:
:It's always possible that the filename contains lower-case letters.
DOS
:converts all command lines to uppercase, so if the filename is
e_NAVIGA.TOR
:(on disk, that is) DOS will not find it. You will need to use a disk
sector
:editor like Norton's DiskEdit to change the lowercase letter to an
uppercase.
:Then DOS can delete it.
:
:**Note: Windows suffers from the same Upper/Lower case conflict
:
:Dave.
:

If you have DOS 6.0 or later then you could do:

deltree c:\save

That should blow away the entire directory

Joe Bradshaw

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