My new Mac Mini
Phineas J. Bearstein
paces, no problems with Lion or with hardware, still not putting up with
malware and such. Thank God for Steve Jobs, choice and competition.
So have a nice day as I get things done on my Mac, Winborgs.
John Slade
A Mac user calling a Windows user a "Winborg" is like the
Borg calling The Federation the Borg. I mean Mac users as a rule
are more like the Borg than Windows users are. Windows users
choose from a wide variety of hardware makers. They are free.
Mac users must assimilate and all buy the same outdated
hardware. I see they dumped he DVD burner, now you have to
borrow one or buy one. Yea that's innovation, you can't even
burn DVDs on a home computer without shelling out more $$$. And
these Mac cult members will actually believe this is an
innovation and go out and buy a external DVD burner and pay
twice as much because it matches the Mini's modeling an color.
John
Phineas J. Bearstein
> On 8/4/2011 1:33 PM, Phineas J. Bearstein wrote:
>> I have been putting the Man Mini I purchased last night through
>> its paces, no problems with Lion or with hardware, still not
>> putting up with malware and such. Thank God for Steve Jobs,
>> choice and competition.
>> So have a nice day as I get things done on my Mac, Winborgs.
> A Mac user calling a Windows user a "Winborg" is like the Borg calling
> The Federation the Borg. I mean Mac users as a rule are more like the
> Borg than Windows users are. Windows users choose from a wide variety of
> hardware makers. They are free. Mac users must assimilate and all buy
> the same outdated hardware. I see they dumped he DVD burner, now you
> have to borrow one or buy one. Yea that's innovation, you can't even
> burn DVDs on a home computer without shelling out more dollars. And these
> Mac cult members will actually believe this is an innovation and go out
> and buy a external DVD burner and pay twice as much because it matches
> the Mini's modeling an color.
>
> John
Are you dreaming or hallucinating on MuahMan's LSD?
Flint
I know what you mean. This is 'function following form' tail-dog
wagging at its finest.
It just struck me why Apple fanboys are so enamored with small form
factors to the degree they are. I like SFFs too, but not if they
don't get the job done the way I like it.
For some things, a slightly larger tool is needed to get the job done.
But the latte sippers believe the lie "Awwwww, that's alright honey,
its not how big it is, its how you use it..." .
:)
--
MFB
John Slade
As for me, I like a large case because I like my
components to stay cool. I have lots of HDs and cards in my
cases. I have a server case for one of my systems and the rest
are mid-tower cases.
>
> For some things, a slightly larger tool is needed to get the job
> done. But the latte sippers believe the lie "Awwwww, that's
> alright honey, its not how big it is, its how you use it..." .
>
> :)
I find that most Mac users to have little tools. They are
taught that smaller is better but not always. I mean who in
their right mind thinks the DVD or Blu-ray is going anywhere
soon? It's like Apple says it and these people parrot it. If
that isn't being in a cult, I don't know what it is. I wonder if
Apple still puts DVD burners on their new iMacs and the Mac Pro.
John
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Tell us how you know that.
Joe Zeff
> For some things, a slightly larger tool is needed to get the job done.
> But the latte sippers believe the lie "Awwwww, that's alright honey,
> its not how big it is, its how you use it..." .
While we're playing around with advocacy, I'll point out that the Windows
fanbois still believe that when it comes to software, "What you get for
nothing is good for nothing," and refuse to look at Linux while the Linux
fanbois (myself included) prefer to say, "Why by milk when a cow is free?"
--
Joe Zeff -- The Guy With The Sideburns:
http://www.zeff.us http://www.lasfs.info
Or you can continue griping and being bitter, which is often just
as good as solving a problem. Whatever works.
Michael A. Terrell
You brag of owning a small tool, then use a browser originally
created for Windows. A slightly updated version of the Netscape 4.80
program I still use.
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:5.0)
Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0
What a fool.
--
It's easy to think outside the box, when you have a cutting torch.
Michael A. Terrell
Joe Zeff wrote:
>
> On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 18:28:24 -0400, Flint wrote:
>
> > For some things, a slightly larger tool is needed to get the job done.
> > But the latte sippers believe the lie "Awwwww, that's alright honey,
> > its not how big it is, its how you use it..." .
>
> While we're playing around with advocacy, I'll point out that the Windows
> fanbois still believe that when it comes to software, "What you get for
> nothing is good for nothing," and refuse to look at Linux while the Linux
> fanbois (myself included) prefer to say, "Why by milk when a cow is free?"
Yawn. I use whatever does the job. Linux is OK, and the Mac has
some uses but I've never seen them used in multi million dollar
industrial systems. The pair of ground stations we built for the
European Space Agency 10 years ago used Windows 95, along with a lot of
MC68340 processors running custom code. There is no 'Best operating
system for all needs', and the control software for the ground control
terminals we built for NOAA specified it had to be Windows compatible.
I run both Windows and Linux. I use my Macs for doorstops. It was
that, or throw them in the trash since they were so useless for
dedicated systems.
Auric__
> What a fool.
...says the man replying to a troll.
--
Werewolves have to obey the speed limit just like everyone else.
Rob
Michael A. Terrell
Auric__ wrote:
>
> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>
> > What a fool.
>
> ...says the man replying to a troll.
Actually I was pointing, and laughing at him as in 'The queen has no
clothes'. BTW, did you hear that hackers can get into the programmable
battery packs in MacBook, MacBook Pro, and MacBook Air laptops?
Michael A. Terrell
A computer is just a tool. A craftsman uses a full set of tools. He
doesn't drive nails with water pump pliers, or cut steel with a
cigarette lighter. :)
Auric__
> Auric__ wrote:
>>
>> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>>
>> > What a fool.
>>
>> ...says the man replying to a troll.
>
> Actually I was pointing, and laughing at him as in 'The queen has no
> clothes'. BTW, did you hear that hackers can get into the programmable
> battery packs in MacBook, MacBook Pro, and MacBook Air laptops?
No, I hadn't. I don't pay much attention to modern Mac-related stuff; my
newest Mac is a PowerBook 1400cs (about 15 years old).
--
She stopped and grinned. "I'm a pest."
I didn't argue it.
Michael A. Terrell
Auric__ wrote:
>
> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>
> ??
> ?? Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> ??
> ?? ? What a fool.
> ??
> ?? ...says the man replying to a troll.
> ?
> ? Actually I was pointing, and laughing at him as in 'The queen has no
> ? clothes'. BTW, did you hear that hackers can get into the programmable
> ? battery packs in MacBook, MacBook Pro, and MacBook Air laptops?
>
> No, I hadn't. I don't pay much attention to modern Mac-related stuff; my
> newest Mac is a PowerBook 1400cs (about 15 years old).
The news article showed photos of a small pile of damaged battery
packs with melted spots from overheating.
Flint
> On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 18:28:24 -0400, Flint wrote:
>
>> For some things, a slightly larger tool is needed to get the job done.
>> But the latte sippers believe the lie "Awwwww, that's alright honey,
>> its not how big it is, its how you use it..." .
>
> While we're playing around with advocacy, I'll point out that the Windows
> fanbois still believe that when it comes to software, "What you get for
> nothing is good for nothing," and refuse to look at Linux while the Linux
> fanbois (myself included) prefer to say, "Why by milk when a cow is free?"
Although I'm a windows user, I'm not necessarily a windows 'fanboi'
myself.
I'm more of a "PC Neocon" than anything, having been hit with a dose
of reality in the face.
Having been an Amiga user (and to a lesser degree a Mac classic user),
I saw and lived through the era where Microsoft practically buried
it's OS competitors, and decided one day to join the 'dark side' as a
user because the reality was that it was a windows world.
I've seen really cool OSes come and go, misfire, or stillborn, and
just don't get passionate about any of them any longer. Linux still
holds some interest for me (primarily Ubuntu), but it's greatest
strength is also its greatest weakness - no one 'owns' it. These
days, there are just some applications I have for that simply won't
work on it.
The older I get, I'm less of a fanboi, and I admit I'm more of what
they call a 'hater' since I loathe corporate anticompetitive campaigns
(particularly Apphole and Microsnot, and very rapidly, *Google*)
Unfortunately, I still tend to have a bit of a sweetooth for underdogs
(RIM anyone?), but now its more like watching puppy-cide by the
corporate patent trolls.
--
MFB
msdos622wasfun
> On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 18:28:24 -0400, Flint wrote:
>
> > For some things, a slightly larger tool is needed to get the job done.
> > But the latte sippers believe the lie "Awwwww, that's alright honey,
> > its not how big it is, its how you use it..." .
>
> While we're playing around with advocacy, I'll point out that the Windows
> fanbois still believe that when it comes to software, "What you get for
> nothing is good for nothing," and refuse to look at Linux while the Linux
> fanbois (myself included) prefer to say, "Why by milk when a cow is free?"
--
Erich K.
John Slade
> On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 18:28:24 -0400, Flint wrote:
>
>> For some things, a slightly larger tool is needed to get the job done.
>> But the latte sippers believe the lie "Awwwww, that's alright honey,
>> its not how big it is, its how you use it..." .
>
> While we're playing around with advocacy, I'll point out that the Windows
> fanbois still believe that when it comes to software, "What you get for
> nothing is good for nothing," and refuse to look at Linux while the Linux
> fanbois (myself included) prefer to say, "Why by milk when a cow is free?"
>
However Linux is lacking in a lot of hardware support when it
comes to TV capture devices and tuners. Linux is great for doing
mundane tasks that need stability like running servers. Linux
isn't good for playing games on a computer, yet. On the bright
side Android is based on Linux and does those things well even
if on mobile devices. Maybe some day Linux will have some killer
games and killer apps that will make it more popular. Right now
it's at about 1% of the home user market. I wish it was more.
John
John Slade
>
> Joe Zeff wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 18:28:24 -0400, Flint wrote:
>>
>>> For some things, a slightly larger tool is needed to get the job done.
>>> But the latte sippers believe the lie "Awwwww, that's alright honey,
>>> its not how big it is, its how you use it..." .
>>
>> While we're playing around with advocacy, I'll point out that the Windows
>> fanbois still believe that when it comes to software, "What you get for
>> nothing is good for nothing," and refuse to look at Linux while the Linux
>> fanbois (myself included) prefer to say, "Why by milk when a cow is free?"
>
>
> Yawn. I use whatever does the job. Linux is OK, and the Mac has
> some uses but I've never seen them used in multi million dollar
> industrial systems. The pair of ground stations we built for the
> European Space Agency 10 years ago used Windows 95, along with a lot of
> MC68340 processors running custom code. There is no 'Best operating
> system for all needs', and the control software for the ground control
> terminals we built for NOAA specified it had to be Windows compatible.
>
develop games and for me Windows is the OS I use most of the
time. Also Windows does everything I need. Can't think of
anything Windows doesn't do well. Linux and OS X needs to catch
up in some areas.
> I run both Windows and Linux. I use my Macs for doorstops. It was
> that, or throw them in the trash since they were so useless for
> dedicated systems.
>
>
market. People could use Linux and Windows systems that were
cheaper to buy/build and maintain.
John
Joe Zeff
> Right now
> it's at about 1% of the home user market. I wish it was more.
"The few, the proud, the penguins!"
"Who said penguins can't fly!"
I care greatly about the prospect of Starbucks's demise.
I'm strongly in favour.
Lloyd
actually care. But while you can stuff Windows server and Linux in a
server role with pretty pee-poor equipment, and unfortunately many do,
real servers are not nearly as cheap as the Apple one was in most cases.
Lloyd
strengths of Linux is that there are multiple UIs available and all
those distributions. And while those are certainly strengths to a
miniscule part of the desktop market, to the broader desktop market
those are a real weakness.
Desktop Linux will remain mostly a hobbyist use, imo.
Steve de Mena
> I don't pretend to know why Apple got out of the server market, nor do I
> actually care. But while you can stuff Windows server and Linux in a
> server role with pretty pee-poor equipment, and unfortunately many do,
> real servers are not nearly as cheap as the Apple one was in most cases.
Do you have experience buying or administering "real servers" in the
enterprise sphere?
Apple's secrecy, lack of 5 year product roadmaps, etc... they were
dead in the enterprise from the get go, regardless of cost.
Steve
Lloyd
OS's on them.
No, I didn't do enterprise servers. But I did sell, install, configure
and service servers in many schools and small businesses. The majority
were Compaq servers with lots of redundancy built in and hot swap drives
and boards so taking a server down was almost a never occuring thing.
And no, Apples Xserve's wouldn't have fit the bill in those schools,
although they could have in some small businesses.
Steve de Mena
> No, I didn't do enterprise servers. But I did sell, install, configure
> and service servers in many schools and small businesses. The majority
> were Compaq servers with lots of redundancy built in and hot swap drives
> and boards so taking a server down was almost a never occuring thing.
>
> And no, Apples Xserve's wouldn't have fit the bill in those schools,
> although they could have in some small businesses.
early 2000s). Then we switched to Dells because they were cheaper and
had nothing but headaches. And lots of unintentional taking of servers
down. :(
Steve
Lloyd
we took a pass since their method of sales interfered with us being a
profitable company. Later we noticed in some installations that had
Dell servers, that issues were coming up all too often.
Gave us a perfect way to get a new client. Never had complaints about
the Proliants from clients. Rock solid gear with great support when
needed.