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AHappyCamper

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Apr 4, 2008, 10:18:44 PM4/4/08
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Microsoft confirms Linux Market Share exceeds 26% of all Internet users
who contact or use a Microsoft website (all microsoft websites are
behind AKAMAI Linux servers, or are actually Linux or FreeBSD servers...

The 26% figure comes from the public record of sworn testimony, and SEC
Quarterly filings under severe penalty for making false statements. Look
it up in Google (totally a Linux project!)

Check out the sections called "Competition". Funny, but, no mention of
Apple/Macintosh, even though one a minute are sold since the Intel CPU
systems were released!

James R. Gentile

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Apr 5, 2008, 2:05:15 AM4/5/08
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You misspelled "1%" when referring to linux market share...

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Mike P

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Apr 7, 2008, 1:24:18 PM4/7/08
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"AHappyCamper" <@thelandfill.com> wrote in message
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What a load of utter shite. You misspelt 1%. Linux has never and will never
be a big business desktop OS.

Mike P


Cork Soaker

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Apr 8, 2008, 10:01:33 PM4/8/08
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> What a load of utter shite. You misspelt 1%. Linux has never and will never
> be a big business desktop OS.
>

Shit head.

Rex Ballard

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Apr 9, 2008, 10:55:17 PM4/9/08
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On Apr 4, 10:18 pm, AHappyCamper <@thelandfill.com> wrote:
> Microsoft confirms Linux Market Share exceeds 26% of all Internet users
> who contact or use a Microsoft website (all microsoft websites are
> behind AKAMAI Linux servers, or are actually Linux or FreeBSD servers...

> The 26% figure comes from the public record of sworn testimony, and SEC
> Quarterly filings under severe penalty for making false statements. Look
> it up in Google (totally a Linux project!)

I was not able to find a reference. Was this for Linux Server market
share?
I found a few interesting cites

http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2008-04-03-018-26-NW-DT-MR
<quote>
Linux Desktop Market Share is Up as Much as 61 Percent, Study Finds
</quote>

From Microsoft's 10Q
http://yahoo.brand.edgar-online.com/displayfilinginfo.aspx?FilingID=5668908-160855-192031&type=sect&dcn=0001193125-08-011476
http://tinyurl.com/6fg3vp

<quote>
Challenges to our business model may reduce our revenues and
operating margins. Our business model has been based upon customers
paying a fee to license software that we developed and distributed.
Under this license-based software model, software developers bear the
costs of converting original ideas into software products through
investments in research and development, offsetting these costs with
the revenue received from the distribution of their products. In
recent years, certain "open source" software business models have
evolved into a growing challenge to our license-based software model.
Open source commonly refers to software whose source code is subject
to a license allowing it to be modified, combined with other software
and redistributed, subject to restrictions set forth in the license. A
number of commercial firms compete with us using an open source
business model by modifying and then distributing open source software
to end users at nominal cost and earning revenue on complementary
services and products. These firms do not have to bear the full costs
of research and development for the software. A prominent example of
open source software is the Linux operating system. Proponents of open
source software continue efforts to convince governments worldwide to
mandate the use of open source software in their purchase and
deployment of software products. Although we believe our products
provide customers with significant advantages in security,
productivity, and total cost of ownership, the open source software
model continues to pose a significant challenge to our business model.
To the extent open source software gains increasing market acceptance,
sales of our products may decline, we may have to reduce the prices we
charge for our products, and revenue and operating margins may
decline.

Another development is the software-as-a-service business model, under
which companies provide applications, data, and related services over
the Internet. Providers use primarily advertising or subscription-
based revenue models. Recent advances in computing and communications
technologies have made this model viable and enabled the rapid growth
of some of our competitors. We are devoting significant resources
toward developing our own competing software plus services strategies.
It is uncertain whether these strategies will be successful.

We face intense competition. We continue to experience intense
competition across all markets for our products and services. Our
competitors range in size from Fortune 100 companies to small,
specialized single-product businesses and open source community-based
projects. Although we believe the breadth of our businesses and
product portfolio are a competitive advantage, our competitors that
are focused on narrower product lines may be more effective in
devoting technical, marketing, and financial resources to compete with
us. In addition, barriers to entry in our businesses generally are low
and products, once developed, can be distributed broadly and quickly
at relatively low cost. Open source software vendors are devoting
considerable efforts to developing software that mimics the features
and functionality of our products. In response to competition, we are
developing versions of our products with basic functionality that are
sold at lower prices than the standard versions. These competitive
pressures may result in decreased sales volumes, price reductions, and/
or increased operating costs, such as for marketing and sales
incentives, resulting in lower revenue, gross margins and operating
income.
</quote>

Rex Ballard

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Apr 10, 2008, 2:08:09 PM4/10/08
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On Apr 5, 2:05 am, "James R. Gentile" <jrgent...@comcast.net> wrote:
> You misspelled "1%" when referring to linux market share...

And your information is grossly out of date. The 1% figure comes from
a very old "sample" done by doing an electronic "survey" of sites
using Windows server with ActiveX enabled. Many of the sites were
very "Linux Hostile" and many of them had fits if you tried to use
"Firefox". Pretty much "We'll only count you if you are what we are
looking for".

It also counted only 1 Operating system per IP address and eliminated
duplicates, wiping out IP addresses such as NAT routers, which
supported both Windows and Linux servers and were usually just counted
ONLY as Windows servers.

This source has since improved their methodology, but still struggles
to properly identify multiple operating systems from a single IP
address.

One benchmark is http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp

Keep in mind this only counts the number of IP addresses giving
browser signatures of "Linux" in the first field of the signature.
Most Linux browsers use the default signature of "X11" as the first
field. Only a about 1/2 the distributions correct this oversight.
About 90% of the "Other" catagory is actually Linux browsers.

No attempt is made to distinguish between the NAT routers most
frequently used by Linux users who share a single IP address with many
other users, and public DHCP addressess which are typically churned -
most frequently used by Dialup and cellular modem Windows customers.
As a result, Linux users are typically undercounted, and Windows users
are typically overcounted. This is beginning to change as more Linux
users are beginning to use cellular modems.

The Table below is best viewed with a fixed-width font such as
Courier.

You will notice that Linux was growing steadily until the relase of
Vista, at which point, it "stalled" a bit hanging just slightly above
7% for several months. Since January, Linux has begun another
aggressive growth spurt, probably as a result of new devices such as
the ASUS EEE as well as the discovery that Mac and Linux hosting seems
to make Windows perform better than when installed as the "Native"
operating system.

Note also, that the majority of the Linux users, probably 90% or more,
tend to use "Dual-mode" machines, often using both Linux and Windows
on the same desktop using virtualization. Others use "dual boot"
machines, with the ability to boot into Windows or Linux at the user's
choice.

Products such as VMWare and improved partition editors have made it
much easier to purchase a machine with Windows XP Professional and
configure a VMWare image using VMWare Converter, or to shrink the
Windows partition (rather than erasing it), then installing Linux as
the primary operating system and using Xen to boot Windows, which can
run concurrently on the same machine.

With dual-core 64/32 bit processors, Linux systems have the ability to
address the larger memory maps and still provide Windows with a more
familiar 32 bit address space.

Microsoft is again trying to "Catch up", hoping that it's "synergy"
kernel, due out sometime around 2012, will somehow be enough of a
"Vaporware" promise to discourage the OEMs from refusing to continue
to install Vista and opting for Linux/XP configurations instead.

Note that Microsoft currently accounts for Windows XP systems sold
since January 2007 as "Vista Business Editions" with the permitted
"Downgrade", even though the customer never sees the Vista software or
License when they order the machine with Windows XP Professional
instead of Vista.

The problem with Vista, and most Vista Applications, is that there is
so much bloat, so much memory thrashing, and so much useless overhead,
that there is no productivity gain - ie no value for corporate
customers, in migrating to Vista.

On the other hand, Linux whether as a VM Appliance, or as the host
system, provides better security, better stability, more
functionality, more flexibility, and in general "More Bang for the
Buck" than a Vista-Only system.

It's also worth noting that the majority of new PCs sold in the last
12 months have been "Linux friendly" systems and the minority of
"Vista-Only" systems, with DirectX 10 video and lack of drivers for
Linux have seen prices slashed by as much 70%, and many retailers have
stopped stocking them altogether.

Gateway, which used to be a "pure Microsoft" play, because they were
so aggressively supportive of Microsoft, was on the verge of being de-
listed from the NASDAQ because they had had so many bad quarters and
the stock price was about to drop below the minimum $1 per share. The
company was purchased by Acer, who has been an aggressive supporter of
Linux hand has made nearly all of their laptop and desktop machinesn
"Linux Friendly". Acer seems to have been turning a tidy profit,
while Gateway was on the verge of collapse.

Microsoft still has a future, but the aggressive adoption of Open
Source Software including FireFox, OpenOffice and Open Document
Format, Linux, and a plethora of 3rd party software written in
multiplatform Java or using OSS APIs has diminished both Microsoft's
power and it's profit margins in the marketlpace.


2008 WinXP W2000 Win98 Vista W2003 Linux Mac Other Linux+Other
February 72.30% 4.00% 1.00% 7.60% 1.80% 3.80% 4.30% 5.20% 8.10%
January 73.60% 4.00% 0.80% 7.30% 1.90% 3.60% 4.40% 4.40% 8.00%

2007 WinXP W2000 Win98 Vista W2003 Linux Mac Other Linux+Other
November 73.80% 5.10% 1.00% 6.30% 2.00% 3.30% 3.90% 4.60% 7.20%
September 74.30% 5.40% 0.90% 4.50% 2.00% 3.40% 3.90% 5.60% 7.30%
July 74.60% 6.00% 0.90% 3.60% 2.00% 3.40% 4.00% 5.50% 7.40%
May 75.00% 6.50% 0.90% 2.80% 1.90% 3.40% 3.90% 5.60% 7.30%
March 76.00% 7.20% 0.90% 1.90% 1.90% 3.40% 3.80% 4.90% 7.20%
January 76.10% 7.70% 1.00% 0.60% 1.90% 3.60% 3.80% 5.30% 7.40%

2006 WinXP W2000 Win98 WinNT W2003 Linux Mac Other Linux+Other
November 74.90% 8.00% 1.00% 0.30% 1.90% 3.50% 3.60% 6.80% 7.10%
September 74.60% 9.20% 1.40% 0.30% 2.00% 3.50% 3.60% 5.40% 7.10%
July 74.30% 10.10% 1.50% 0.30% 2.00% 3.40% 3.60% 4.80% 7.00%
May 74.20% 10.70% 1.60% 0.20% 2.00% 3.40% 3.60% 4.30% 7.00%
March 72.90% 11.90% 2.00% 0.30% 1.80% 3.40% 3.50% 4.20% 6.90%
January 72.30% 13.10% 2.40% 0.30% 1.70% 3.30% 3.50% 3.40% 6.80%

2005 WinXP W2000 Win98 WinNT W2003 Linux Mac Other Linux+Other
November 71.00% 14.60% 2.70% 0.40% 1.70% 3.30% 3.30% 3.00% 6.60%
September 69.20% 15.80% 3.20% 0.50% 1.70% 3.30% 3.10% 3.20% 6.40%
July 65.30% 17.70% 3.90% 0.60% 1.60% 3.50% 3.00% 4.40% 6.50%
May 64.50% 19.40% 3.90% 0.80% 1.40% 3.30% 2.90% 3.80% 6.20%
March 63.10% 20.20% 4.70% 0.90% 1.40% 3.20% 3.00% 3.50% 6.20%
January 61.30% 21.60% 5.30% 1.00% 1.20% 3.20% 2.80% 3.60% 6.00%

2004 WinXP W2000 Win98 WinNT Win95 Linux Mac Other Linux+Other
November 59.10% 23.70% 5.60% 1.20% 0.10% 3.10% 2.70% 4.50% 5.80%
September 55.90% 26.20% 6.40% 1.50% 0.20% 3.10% 2.60% 4.10% 5.70%
July 52.50% 28.40% 7.50% 1.90% 0.20% 3.10% 2.40% 4.00% 5.50%
May 51.00% 29.60% 8.20% 2.00% 0.30% 2.90% 2.50% 3.50% 5.40%
March 48.00% 31.10% 9.40% 2.40% 0.40% 2.60% 2.40% 3.70% 5.00%
January 44.10% 33.60% 10.40% 3.00% 0.40% 2.70% 2.40% 3.40% 5.10%

2003 WinXP W2000 Win98 WinNT Win95 Linux Mac Other Linux+Other
November 42.60% 36.30% 10.90% 3.50% 0.40% 2.60% 2.20% 1.50% 4.80%
September 38.00% 37.90% 12.10% 4.10% 0.50% 2.40% 2.00% 3.00% 4.40%
July 33.90% 40.60% 12.60% 5.30% 0.60% 2.30% 1.90% 2.80% 4.20%
May 31.40% 41.00% 13.90% 5.80% 0.70% 2.20% 1.80% 3.20% 4.00%
March 29.10% 41.90% 14.80% 6.60% 0.80% 2.20% 1.80% 2.80% 4.00%

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