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Sidney Lambe

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Sep 23, 2009, 9:22:52 AM9/23/09
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First off, I'd like to tell Chris F.A. Johnson, the
technocratic bully who drops by here now and then
to tell people who aren't experts like he is that
they are idiots who shouldn't be shellscripting:

If you don't like my scripts, Chris, feel free
to print them out on stiff cardboard, roll them
into a cylinder, and insert them in your fat ass.

Anyone can write shell scripts and no one requires
your approval in the matter.

---------------------------------------------------

This improved version of the former script allows
for the creation of submenus.

#!/bin/bash

#menu.sh

# Put the script in your PATH and make it executable with:
# $ chmod +rx menu.sh
# alias the script to m in your bashrc
# alias m='/usr/local/bin/menu.sh menu.txt' Then all you have to do
# to bring up the menu is enter m at the prompt.

# This script reads a list of commands in /etc/menu/menu.txt and
# creates a menu with them. The commands should be one per line
# and be whatever you would put on the commandline. Enclose each
# line in double quotes. Limit 26.
# Press the letter corresponding to the command and it runs

# submenus - If you want to create a submenu, give it a single
# name composed of all caps and follow it with =SUBMENU:
# "NAME=SUBMENU". Then create a new list in /etc/menu entitled
# NAME.txt. If it isn't a submenu there better be something
# other than caps in the command.

list=/etc/menu/${1}

set - a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z

command=1

echo
while read line
do
if $(echo "$line" | grep =SUBMENU &> /dev/null)
then line="$(echo "$line" | sed 's/\"//g' | cut -d"=" -f1)"
fi
echo "${1}) $line" | sed 's/\"//g'
shift
eval var${command}="$line" 2> /dev/null
let "command += 1"
done < $list
echo

read -s -n1 bb
echo

sm ()
{
if echo "$foo" | grep '^[A-Z][A-Z]*$' &> /dev/null
then menu.sh ${foo}.txt
else
eval "$foo"
fi
}

case "$bb" in

a) foo=$(echo "$var1") ; sm ;;
b) foo=($echo "$var2") ; sm ;;
c) foo=$(echo "$var3") ; sm ;;
d) foo=$(echo "$var4") ; sm ;;
e) foo=$(echo "$var5") ; sm ;;
f) foo=$(echo "$var6") ; sm ;;
g) foo=$(echo "$var7") ; sm ;;
h) foo=$(echo "$var8") ; sm ;;
i) foo=$(echo "$var9") ; sm ;;
j) foo=$(echo "$var10") ; sm ;;
k) foo=$(echo "$var11") ; sm ;;
l) foo=$(echo "$var12") ; sm ;;
m) foo=$(echo "$var13") ; sm ;;
n) foo=$(echo "$var14") ; sm ;;
o) foo=$(echo "$var15") ; sm ;;
p) foo=$(echo "$var16") ; sm ;;
q) foo=$(echo "$var17") ; sm ;;
r) foo=$(echo "$var18") ; sm ;;
s) foo=$(echo "$var19") ; sm ;;
t) foo=$(echo "$var20") ; sm ;;
u) foo=$(echo "$var21") ; sm ;;
v) foo=$(echo "$var22") ; sm ;;
w) foo=$(echo "$var23") ; sm ;;
x) foo=$(echo "$var24") ; sm ;;
y) foo=$(echo "$var25") ; sm ;;
z) foo=$(echo "$var26") ; sm ;;

esac

Sid

Dan C

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Sep 23, 2009, 11:42:09 AM9/23/09
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On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:22:52 +0200, Sidney Lambe wrote:

> Anyone can write shell scripts and no one requires your approval in the
> matter.

Anyone but you, apparently. You're clueless, Alan Connor.

> This improved version of the former script allows for the creation of
> submenus.

<SNIP>

"Improved"? LOL! It's absolute and utter garbage. Fuck off and die,
Alan Connor.


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Loki Harfagr

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Sep 23, 2009, 12:53:34 PM9/23/09
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Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:42:09 +0000, Dan C did cat :

> On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:22:52 +0200, Sidney Lambe wrote:
>
>> Anyone can write shell scripts and no one requires your approval in the
>> matter.
>
> Anyone but you, apparently. You're clueless, Alan Connor.
>
>> This improved version of the former script allows for the creation of
>> submenus.
>
> <SNIP>
>
> "Improved"? LOL! It's absolute and utter garbage.

Why do you say so? I find it's either, a real effort to give a terminal
training lesson on how not to code or, one of the best puns ever
in this sad sad world of functional coding.

Imagine, he's so strung up against GUIs that he's desperately
trying and mimick one through closed QCM menus.

Truely, I'm quite impatient to see the first full presentation of
the complete O.D.E YANAWMNADE.

Besides the quality of the hilaration while reading his
most recent "'`scripts''" is definitely on an hyperbolic streak!

Message has been deleted

faeychild

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Sep 23, 2009, 10:53:14 PM9/23/09
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Dan C wrote:

> On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:22:52 +0200, Sidney Lambe wrote:

>
> "Improved"? LOL! It's absolute and utter garbage. Fuck off and die,
> Alan Connor.


probably a dumb question ,Dan.

Is this the same Alan Connor of kernel fame or a different bloke?
Always wondered.


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faeychild

Wanna-Be Sys Admin

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Sep 23, 2009, 11:21:09 PM9/23/09
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Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:

> [ bad scripting by Sidney deleted ]
>
> No, my eyes, they ble-e-e-e-e-e-e-d-d-d-d!
>
> Seriously, the man probably doesn't even know how to use 'case'
> statements, the amazingly use of alphanumeric and unnamed variables
> is... oh dear. And he's calling a shell script from inside the shell
> script itself. Didn't anybody ever explain to him that calling a shell
> script, recursively, by using 'scriptname' instead of '$0' is a
> really, really bad idea?
>
> For someone who shrieks about how shell is better than a GUI, how
> could he write such bad shell script?

haha, this idiot posted a new thread about it now? wtf!? That's an
incredible arrogance to think some shitty script he wrote to think
anyone wants to hear about it again, let alone his "improvements". let
me guess, it's still static, not dynamic or flexible code and is still
10 times longer and just as potentially broken as his first attempt.
Anyway, he writes bad shell scripts after bragging about his "skills",
because he talks about anything Linux related in a bragging and
demeaning manner, regardless of the fact he clearly doesn't know a damn
thing (including about commands and the cli, which he boasts about so
much). I liken this to a guy with a small penis that gets a big truck.

This fool is so dumb and arrogant, he reminds me of a local kook in my
town that is literally in his 50s, lives with his mother, and spends
all day on a local news site cutting into anyone that doesn't agree
with his slanted views (even though the guy is clueless). Any time
there's an election for an open slot, be it on the city council board,
school board or anything else, he re-paints his old signs and re-writes
in his new slogan and whatever he's running for in crayon (seriously)
and puts them all over town. The fool is convinced people want to hear
his bullshit and he'll just never get a clue. It's absolutely crazy,
and that is exactly what Sid reminds me of. No one asked or is
interested, but Sid thinks he's so important that he'll start new
threads about a topic that HE brought up himself in the middle of a
thread and failed at, so he starts a new one. What a fucking waste of
resources that kook is! Doesn't matter if Sid doesn't know shit about
the command line, or that he can't code a shell script worth a damn, he
is just completely delusional.
--
Not really a wanna-be, but I don't know everything.

jellybean stonerfish

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Sep 24, 2009, 2:10:53 AM9/24/09
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On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:22:52 +0200, Sidney Lambe wrote:


>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> This improved version of the former script allows for the creation of
> submenus.
>
> #!/bin/bash
>
> #menu.sh
>
> # Put the script in your PATH and make it executable with: # $ chmod +rx
> menu.sh

><<< S N I P >>>>


>
> case "$bb" in
>
> a) foo=$(echo "$var1") ; sm ;;

><<< S N I P >>>>


> z) foo=$(echo "$var26") ; sm ;;
>
> esac
>
>
>
> Sid

Hi Sid. I read your script and I think you may be on to a great idea.
This modified version of your script lists all programs dynamically, and
does not need a configuration file.


#!/bin/bash

#menu.sh
# Based on an idea from Sidney Lambe
# His version listed 26 programs and required input of a
# letter (a-z)
# This version lists all available programs in the /usr/bin
# or /bin directory, dynamically. Then a prompt is given,
# and control is passed to the parent shell.

# Generate list of programs available.
printf "Please choose a command from the following list.\n"
ls {/usr,}/bin

# Give user promt, then return control to parent shell.
printf "Enter the name of the command.\n"

#end menu.sh


It may not look like much, but the 3 lines of code in the above script,
can replace the 100,000+ files needed to support gnome or kde.

Sidney Lambe

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Sep 24, 2009, 3:33:47 AM9/24/09
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>! D 200 20:[Dan C ] +->
3! D 100 28:[Loki Harfagr] | +->
4! D 100 18:[faeychild ] | `->
5! D 200 13:[Nico Kadel-G] +->
6! D 100 45:[Wanna-Be Sys] | `->
7! D 200 57:[jellybean st] `->

No point in reading those. These folks
would disagree with me if I said the sky
was blue. I wouldn't be surprised to learn
that most of them came from the same person.

For the newbies:

Don't let these jerks discourage you.

Shellscripts just have to work. They don't have
to meet some mythical idea of perfection.

Play with them. The abs is full of example scripts:

http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html
http://linuxreviews.org/beginner/abs-guide/en/
http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/

Sid

Wanna-Be Sys Admin

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Sep 24, 2009, 4:10:01 AM9/24/09
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jellybean stonerfish wrote:

>
> Hi Sid.  I read your script and I think you may be on to a great idea.
> This modified version of your script lists all programs dynamically,
> and does not need a configuration file

hehe, fun stuff, I think Sid might take you seriously though.

Wanna-Be Sys Admin

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Sep 24, 2009, 4:14:24 AM9/24/09
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Sidney Lambe wrote:

>
>>! D 200 20:[Dan C ] +->
> 3! D 100 28:[Loki Harfagr] | +->
> 4! D 100 18:[faeychild ] | `->
> 5! D 200 13:[Nico Kadel-G] +->
> 6! D 100 45:[Wanna-Be Sys] | `->
> 7! D 200 57:[jellybean st] `->
>
> No point in reading those. These folks
> would disagree with me if I said the sky
> was blue. I wouldn't be surprised to learn
> that most of them came from the same person.

Yes, if you state incorrect claims, lie, post paranoid rants, conspiracy
theories and act like you own the group, then a lot of people will call
you on it. Also, while you've listed 6 different names, it should be
known that every single person points out your bullshit in every Linux
group, for every single post you make, so you essentially include every
single user of all of the Linux froups of being worthless, when in fact
you're the most worthless member I've ever seen on these groups.
Additionally, you are essentially accusing every user, both new and
old, of being all the same person. You truly can't accept that it's
not just one person that disagrees with you. You should kill yourself.

> For the newbies:
>
> Don't let these jerks discourage you.

Sid looks in the mirror at himself every day and says this to himself,
about himself. Doctors orders.

> Shellscripts just have to work. They don't have
> to meet some mythical idea of perfection.

True, but yours don't work or aren't useful.

<snip bullshit script -- he just can't help but quote himself>

One thing I can say about Sid, is that he doesn't suffer from any self
esteem issues, he boasts no matter how much even he knows he's wrong or
uneducated about a topic. It's disrespectful and childish, insane and
arrogant. Sid should kill himself.

Sidney Lambe

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Sep 24, 2009, 5:23:44 AM9/24/09
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3! D 200 20:[Dan C ] +->
4! D 100 28:[Loki Harfagr] | +->
5! D 100 18:[faeychild ] | `->
6! D 200 13:[Nico Kadel-G] +->
7! D 100 45:[Wanna-Be Sys] | `->
8! D 200 57:[jellybean st] +->

Never seen any of those people post any scripts
before.

And we all know why: They can't. They don't know
how.

So what are they doing criticizing my script?

Being your typical Usenet losers.

Sid

Nico Kadel-Garcia

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Sep 24, 2009, 6:16:59 AM9/24/09
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On Sep 24, 5:23 am, Sidney Lambe <sidneyla...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>  3! D   200   20:[Dan C       ]    +->
>  4! D   100   28:[Loki Harfagr]    | +->
>  5! D   100   18:[faeychild   ]    | `->
>  6! D   200   13:[Nico Kadel-G]    +->
>  7! D   100   45:[Wanna-Be Sys]    | `->
>  8! D   200   57:[jellybean st]    +->
>
> Never seen any of those people post any scripts
> before.

My public ones are mostly in open source products, and an occasional
relevant question. You know, at Sourceforge? Not posted to noone who
asked for it.

Just because mine actually *work*......

Sidney Lambe

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Sep 24, 2009, 7:45:54 AM9/24/09
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Nico Kadel-Garcia <nka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 24, 5:23=A0am, Sidney Lambe <sidneyla...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> =A03! D =A0 200 =A0 20:[Dan C =A0 =A0 =A0 ] =A0 =A0+->
>> =A04! D =A0 100 =A0 28:[Loki Harfagr] =A0 =A0| +->
>> =A05! D =A0 100 =A0 18:[faeychild =A0 ] =A0 =A0| `->
>> =A06! D =A0 200 =A0 13:[Nico Kadel-G] =A0 =A0+->
>> =A07! D =A0 100 =A0 45:[Wanna-Be Sys] =A0 =A0| `->
>> =A08! D =A0 200 =A0 57:[jellybean st] =A0 =A0+->

>>
>> Never seen any of those people post any scripts
>> before.
>
> My public ones are mostly in open source products, and an occasional
> relevant question. You know, at Sourceforge? Not posted to noone who
> asked for it.

Right. Except that we don't see any links to these supposed
accomplishements, do we.

I think you are lying. I recall from an earlier post that you
don't even know the difference between a GUI and a GDE.

I don't think the folks at sourceforge would give you the
time of day.

> Just because mine actually *work*......

Your _supposed_ scripts. We haven't seen any evidence that
they exist, have we.

I use the one I posted all the time. Works fine.

You obviously just don't know how to install and
configure scripts. Which doesn't surprise me.


Sid


Bilky White

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Sep 24, 2009, 5:00:26 AM9/24/09
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"Sidney Lambe" <sidne...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:slrnhbk86v.pn...@evergreen.net...
> First off,
>

As a complete N00B to Linux and this forum, having read previous rants of
yours and having read the different responses in this thread I can only
conclude that you're one of those Usenet nutters with nothing better to do
than tap away at a keyboard instead of having friends. It makes me wonder
if the "b" in your name is redundant. Now, to KF or not to KF, that is the
question.

Nico Kadel-Garcia

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Sep 24, 2009, 9:43:34 AM9/24/09
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On Sep 24, 7:45 am, Sidney Lambe <sidneyla...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Nico Kadel-Garcia <nka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sep 24, 5:23=A0am, Sidney Lambe <sidneyla...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> >> =A03! D =A0 200 =A0 20:[Dan C =A0 =A0 =A0 ] =A0 =A0+->
> >> =A04! D =A0 100 =A0 28:[Loki Harfagr] =A0 =A0| +->
> >> =A05! D =A0 100 =A0 18:[faeychild =A0 ] =A0 =A0| `->
> >> =A06! D =A0 200 =A0 13:[Nico Kadel-G] =A0 =A0+->
> >> =A07! D =A0 100 =A0 45:[Wanna-Be Sys] =A0 =A0| `->
> >> =A08! D =A0 200 =A0 57:[jellybean st] =A0 =A0+->
>
> >> Never seen any of those people post any scripts
> >> before.
>
> > My public ones are mostly in open source products, and an occasional
> > relevant question. You know, at Sourceforge? Not posted to noone who
> > asked for it.
>
> Right. Except that we don't see any links to these supposed
> accomplishements, do we.

Go look at sourceforge and CRM114.

Chris F.A. Johnson

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Sep 24, 2009, 10:41:21 AM9/24/09
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printf '%s\n' ${PATH//:/\/* } | column

> # Give user promt, then return control to parent shell.
> printf "Enter the name of the command.\n"
>
> #end menu.sh
>
>
> It may not look like much, but the 3 lines of code in the above script,
> can replace the 100,000+ files needed to support gnome or kde.
>


--
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Shell Scripting Recipes: | My code in this post, if any,
A Problem-Solution Approach | is released under the
2005, Apress | GNU General Public Licence

Chris F.A. Johnson

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Sep 24, 2009, 10:45:07 AM9/24/09
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Better is:

printf '%s\n' ${PATH//:/\/* } | awk -F/ '{print $NF}' | column

des...@verizon.net

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Sep 24, 2009, 11:34:49 AM9/24/09
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"Bilky White" <bl...@blah.com> writes:

> "Sidney Lambe" <sidne...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:slrnhbk86v.pn...@evergreen.net...
>> First off,
>>
>

> Now, to KF or not to KF, that is the question.

The answer about the KF is simple.

Think of it this way, if you hadn't responded to Alan,
I wouldn't even know he was still posting. Do me and
the rest of us a favor.

jellybean stonerfish

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Sep 24, 2009, 11:50:23 AM9/24/09
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:45:07 +0000, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:

> On 2009-09-24, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:
>> On 2009-09-24, jellybean stonerfish wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Sid. I read your script and I think you may be on to a great idea.
>>> This modified version of your script lists all programs dynamically,
>>> and does not need a configuration file.
>>>
>>>
>>> #!/bin/bash
>>>
>>> #menu.sh
>>> # Based on an idea from Sidney Lambe
>>> # His version listed 26 programs and required input of a # letter
>>> (a-z)
>>> # This version lists all available programs in the /usr/bin # or /bin
>>> directory, dynamically. Then a prompt is given, # and control is
>>> passed to the parent shell.
>>>
>>> # Generate list of programs available. printf "Please choose a command
>>> from the following list.\n" ls {/usr,}/bin
>>
>> printf '%s\n' ${PATH//:/\/* } | column
>
> Better is:
>
> printf '%s\n' ${PATH//:/\/* } | awk -F/ '{print $NF}' | column
>

The beauty of sharing code.....Thank you both for the suggestions. And
thanks again to Sid for the original idea. I will test these suggestions
out, and post an updated script later today.

Aragorn

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Sep 24, 2009, 12:00:13 PM9/24/09
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On Thursday 24 September 2009 17:50, someone identifying as *jellybean
stonerfish* wrote in /comp.os.linux.misc:/

> On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:45:07 +0000, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:
>
>> printf '%s\n' ${PATH//:/\/* } | awk -F/ '{print $NF}' | column
>
> The beauty of sharing code.....Thank you both for the suggestions.

You seem to be missing the irony here... ;-)

> And thanks again to Sid for the original idea.

His idea is worthless. If you want to script a menu system, then
GNU/Linux already offers you the means to do so in an easy fashion.
Just read...

man dialog

... and you will see that you can come up with much nicer looking and
more efficient menus than anything Sid could have come up with. His
only motivation for doing so is his loathing of the graphical desktop
environments anyway, and this loathing stems from some very serious
psychological issues.

--
*Aragorn*
(registered GNU/Linux user #223157)

jellybean stonerfish

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Sep 24, 2009, 12:06:12 PM9/24/09
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:00:13 +0200, Aragorn wrote:

> On Thursday 24 September 2009 17:50, someone identifying as *jellybean
> stonerfish* wrote in /comp.os.linux.misc:/
>
>> On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:45:07 +0000, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:
>>
>>> printf '%s\n' ${PATH//:/\/* } | awk -F/ '{print $NF}' | column
>>
>> The beauty of sharing code.....Thank you both for the suggestions.
>
> You seem to be missing the irony here... ;-)

Woosh

Wanna-Be Sys Admin

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Sep 24, 2009, 12:38:55 PM9/24/09
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Aragorn wrote:

>>> printf '%s\n' ${PATH//:/\/* } | awk -F/ '{print $NF}' | column
>>
>> The beauty of sharing code.....Thank you both for the suggestions.
>
> You seem to be missing the irony here... ;-)
>

He was actually poking fun at Sid's ridiculous "menu" idea. I.e.,
effectively replacing it all with a single "ls" at one point.

Wanna-Be Sys Admin

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Sep 24, 2009, 12:42:17 PM9/24/09
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Sidney Lambe wrote:

>
> 3! D   200   20:[Dan C       ]    +->
> 4! D   100   28:[Loki Harfagr]    | +->
> 5! D   100   18:[faeychild   ]    | `->
> 6! D   200   13:[Nico Kadel-G]    +->
> 7! D   100   45:[Wanna-Be Sys]    | `->
> 8! D   200   57:[jellybean st]    +->
>
> Never seen any of those people post any scripts
> before.

"Any of these people"? You've just claimed we're all the same person.

> And we all know why: They can't. They don't know
> how.

How childish, trying to tease people, or is that your way to try and get
people to post shell scripts?

> So what are they doing criticizing my script?

Pointing out the many flaws and why you don't deserve this arrogance you
have about yourself.

> Being your typical Usenet losers.
>
> Sid

You're so smart.

Anyway, Sid, what scripts do you need help with? Just ask, have a
normal conversation where you don't insult people and rant on about
conspiracies (well, actually the same single one) all of the time and
you'll see a different attitude toward you. Then again, I don't think
anyone's holding their breath since you've done this same thing for
years in every single post you make. What a miserable sod you are.

Wanna-Be Sys Admin

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Sep 24, 2009, 12:47:08 PM9/24/09
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Sidney Lambe wrote:

> Nico Kadel-Garcia <nka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sep 24, 5:23=A0am, Sidney Lambe <sidneyla...@nospam.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>> =A03! D =A0 200 =A0 20:[Dan C =A0 =A0 =A0 ] =A0 =A0+->
>>> =A04! D =A0 100 =A0 28:[Loki Harfagr] =A0 =A0| +->
>>> =A05! D =A0 100 =A0 18:[faeychild =A0 ] =A0 =A0| `->
>>> =A06! D =A0 200 =A0 13:[Nico Kadel-G] =A0 =A0+->
>>> =A07! D =A0 100 =A0 45:[Wanna-Be Sys] =A0 =A0| `->
>>> =A08! D =A0 200 =A0 57:[jellybean st] =A0 =A0+->
>>>
>>> Never seen any of those people post any scripts
>>> before.
>>
>> My public ones are mostly in open source products, and an occasional
>> relevant question. You know, at Sourceforge? Not posted to noone who
>> asked for it.
>
> Right. Except that we don't see any links to these supposed
> accomplishements, do we.

It wasn't relevant, it wasn't needed, so why would anyone post a link to
a menu shell script? You're the fool that brought up the unrelated
topic and bad script. Use sourceforge, or google and see what's
already out there.

> I think you are lying.

You think no one's ever made a shell/cli based menu system before? Or
do you think he's lying that sourceforge exists?

> I recall from an earlier post that you
> don't even know the difference between a GUI and a GDE.

My goodness, this guy clearly knows a lot more than you and you clearly
don't know anything, yet you think it's okay to just make things up so
you can say whatever you need to to make yourself feel better? Who do
you think is going to buy that?

> I don't think the folks at sourceforge would give you the
> time of day.

What does that have to do with his mention that scripts exist there?
Also, did you check for his name on any projects there?

>> Just because mine actually *work*......
>
> Your _supposed_ scripts. We haven't seen any evidence that
> they exist, have we.

We haven't seen any evidence of your attempts here, by the way, other
than the random nonsense, broken ass, spaghetti code you call scripts.
Not only that, but they are *always* completely irrelevant. It's a
mystery of why you even try and post them.

> I use the one I posted all the time. Works fine.

Not only are you lame enough to think it's worth while, but you actually
don't even see that it's broken.

> You obviously just don't know how to install and
> configure scripts. Which doesn't surprise me.
>
>
> Sid

You obviously have no problem saying any accusations about any person
you disagree with. Of course, that is what you do.

Keith Keller

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On 2009-09-24, Aragorn <ara...@chatfactory.invalid> wrote:
>
> His idea is worthless. If you want to script a menu system, then
> GNU/Linux already offers you the means to do so in an easy fashion.
> Just read...
>
> man dialog

Heh, I was going to post something about using dialog yesterday. Great
minds think alike!

... and so do ours. ;-)

The Slackware installer (and its package manager front-end, pkgtools)
uses dialog extensively. I find it much more usable than the X-based
installers provided by other distros. Of course, dialog might be too
GUI-intensive for ''some'' people.

--keith

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Chris F.A. Johnson

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The only thing worse than dialog is the shell builtin, select.

Menus are simple to construct with the shell, and can be far more
flexible than dialog or select.

Joe Beanfish

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Sep 24, 2009, 2:26:28 PM9/24/09
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Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> [ bad scripting by Sidney deleted ]
>
> No, my eyes, they ble-e-e-e-e-e-e-d-d-d-d!

No, my eyes, my reader's full of these nonsense threads. What good is
it to killfile anyone if you all yammer on constantly about him?

Marcel Bruinsma

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Sep 24, 2009, 3:03:50 PM9/24/09
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Am Mittwoch 23 September 2009 15:22, Sidney Lambe a écrit :

> This improved version of the former script allows
> for the creation of submenus.
>
> #!/bin/bash

If you put '/bin/sh' in the shebang, you might as well use some of
bash's features. In a menu with submenus there should be some
way to go back to the previous level (the example below uses ESC,
but that's probably a poor choice). And last, but not least, a few
checks for basic errors ('No such file or directory') won't hurt.


#!/bin/bash
#
# /usr/local/menu
#
menudir=/etc/menu
#
# Menu entries:
# SUBMENU=name
# Literal 'SUBMENU=' followed by name to be displayed,
# which is also the name of a menu file in $menudir.
# name=command [options] [operands]
# Descriptive name of command followed by the invoking
# command line.
# Lines without '=' are ignored (comment lines).
#
menu () {
local line name list=("P") path="$menudir/$1"
set -- 0 a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z
while [ "$2" ] && read -r line; do
name=${line#SUBMENU=}
if [ "$name" = "$line" ]; then
name=${line#*=}
[ "$name" = "$line" ] && continue
list+=("C$name")
name=${line%%=*}
else
list+=("M$name")
name="[M] $name"
fi
shift
printf '\n %s) %s' "$1" "$name" >&2
done <"$path" || return 1
printf '\n\nYour choice? [a-%s] ' "$1" >&2
line=
while [ "$line" \< a -o "$line" \> "$1" ]; do
[ "$line" = $'\e' ] && { line=9; break;}
read -srn1 line <&2
done
printf '%s\n\n' "$line" >&2
printf '%s' "${list[$((36#$line-9))]}"
}
exec 2<>/dev/tty || exit 1
ml=(main); i=0
while :; do
cm=$(menu "${ml[$i]}") || exit 1
t=${cm:0:1}; cm=${cm:1}
if [ C = "$t" ]; then ${cm}
elif [ M = "$t" ]; then ml[$((++i))]=$cm
elif [ $i -ne 0 ]; then ml[$((i--))]=
else exit 0
fi
done

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156 163 155 141 100 171 141 150 157 157 056 143 157 155|tr \ \\\\)
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Aragorn

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On Thursday 24 September 2009 18:38, someone identifying as *Wanna-Be
Sys Admin* wrote in /comp.os.linux.misc:/

> Aragorn wrote:
>
>>>> printf '%s\n' ${PATH//:/\/* } | awk -F/ '{print $NF}' | column
>>>
>>> The beauty of sharing code.....Thank you both for the suggestions.
>>
>> You seem to be missing the irony here... ;-)
>
> He was actually poking fun at Sid's ridiculous "menu" idea. I.e.,
> effectively replacing it all with a single "ls" at one point.

Well, yes, Chris was, and of that I myself am well aware, but it seemed
to me like Jellybean on the other hand was not, which is why I said


"You seem to be missing the irony here..." ;-)

--

Aragorn

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On Thursday 24 September 2009 20:21, someone identifying as *Chris F.A.
Johnson* wrote in /comp.os.linux.misc:/

> On 2009-09-24, Aragorn wrote:
>> On Thursday 24 September 2009 17:50, someone identifying as
>> *jellybean stonerfish* wrote in /comp.os.linux.misc:/
>>
>>> On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:45:07 +0000, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:
>>>
>>>> printf '%s\n' ${PATH//:/\/* } | awk -F/ '{print $NF}' | column
>>>
>>> The beauty of sharing code.....Thank you both for the suggestions.
>>
>> You seem to be missing the irony here... ;-)
>>
>>> And thanks again to Sid for the original idea.
>>
>> His idea is worthless. If you want to script a menu system, then
>> GNU/Linux already offers you the means to do so in an easy fashion.
>> Just read...
>>
>> man dialog
>>
>> ... and you will see that you can come up with much nicer looking and
>> more efficient menus than anything Sid could have come up with. His
>> only motivation for doing so is his loathing of the graphical desktop
>> environments anyway, and this loathing stems from some very serious
>> psychological issues.
>
> The only thing worse than dialog is the shell builtin, select.
>
> Menus are simple to construct with the shell, and can be far more
> flexible than dialog or select.

Well, I just wanted to throw in some eyecandy... :p

Michael Black

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Sep 24, 2009, 4:15:00 PM9/24/09
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2009, Sidney Lambe wrote:

>
3! D 200 20:[Dan C ] +->
> 4! D 100 28:[Loki Harfagr] | +->
> 5! D 100 18:[faeychild ] | `->
> 6! D 200 13:[Nico Kadel-G] +->
> 7! D 100 45:[Wanna-Be Sys] | `->
> 8! D 200 57:[jellybean st] +->
>
> Never seen any of those people post any scripts
> before.
>
> And we all know why: They can't. They don't know
> how.
>
> So what are they doing criticizing my script?
>

If you want a MUI, then you should start with Lynx. Use that as the
"shell", it has file management built in and can invoke executables. Then
your "scripts" become html pages, and all one has to do is "click" on the
link to invoke something else.

People like GUIs, or as you insist, GDEs, because it is simple to add and
subtract things. You've gone the other way, making complicated scripts to
do simple things.

Michael

Wanna-Be Sys Admin

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Sep 24, 2009, 5:03:04 PM9/24/09
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Aragorn wrote:

I thought Jellybean was playing along like you guys were (i.e., he
didn't miss the irony). I could be wrong. I wouldn't take anyone
serious that gave Sid praise anyway, then again I've never seen Sid
post anything worth a thank you, let alone any praise. :-)

Sidney Lambe

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Sep 24, 2009, 5:26:38 PM9/24/09
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Nico Kadel-Garcia <nka...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sep 24, 7:45=A0am, Sidney Lambe <sidneyla...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> Nico Kadel-Garcia <nka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Sep 24, 5:23=3DA0am, Sidney Lambe <sidneyla...@nospam.invalid> wrote=
>:
>> >> =3DA03! D =3DA0 200 =3DA0 20:[Dan C =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 ] =3DA0 =3DA0+->
>> >> =3DA04! D =3DA0 100 =3DA0 28:[Loki Harfagr] =3DA0 =3DA0| +->
>> >> =3DA05! D =3DA0 100 =3DA0 18:[faeychild =3DA0 ] =3DA0 =3DA0| `->
>> >> =3DA06! D =3DA0 200 =3DA0 13:[Nico Kadel-G] =3DA0 =3DA0+->
>> >> =3DA07! D =3DA0 100 =3DA0 45:[Wanna-Be Sys] =3DA0 =3DA0| `->
>> >> =3DA08! D =3DA0 200 =3DA0 57:[jellybean st] =3DA0 =3DA0+->

>>
>> >> Never seen any of those people post any scripts
>> >> before.
>>
>> > My public ones are mostly in open source products, and an occasional
>> > relevant question. You know, at Sourceforge? Not posted to noone who
>> > asked for it.
>>
>> Right. Except that we don't see any links to these supposed
>> accomplishements, do we.
>
> Go look at sourceforge and CRM114.

Any rational person who was telling the truth here would have simply
posted a link.

Your name appearing on a document at sourceforge means nothing.

Someone has to sweep the floor there...

Sid

Sidney Lambe

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Sep 24, 2009, 5:26:38 PM9/24/09
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jellybean stonerfish <stone...@geocities.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:22:52 +0200, Sidney Lambe wrote:
>
>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------
>>
>> This improved version of the former script allows for the creation of
>> submenus.
>>
>> #!/bin/bash
>>
>> #menu.sh
>>
>> # Put the script in your PATH and make it executable with: # $ chmod +rx
>> menu.sh
>><<< S N I P >>>>
>>
>> case "$bb" in
>>
>> a) foo=$(echo "$var1") ; sm ;;
>><<< S N I P >>>>
>> z) foo=$(echo "$var26") ; sm ;;
>>
>> esac
>>
>>
>>
>> Sid
>
> Hi Sid. I read your script and I think you may be on to a great idea.
> This modified version of your script lists all programs dynamically, and
> does not need a configuration file.
>
>
> #!/bin/bash
>
> #menu.sh
> # Based on an idea from Sidney Lambe
> # His version listed 26 programs and required input of a
> # letter (a-z)
> # This version lists all available programs in the /usr/bin
> # or /bin directory, dynamically. Then a prompt is given,
> # and control is passed to the parent shell.
>
> # Generate list of programs available.
> printf "Please choose a command from the following list.\n"
> ls {/usr,}/bin

I wonder how much time on google he had to spend to find that
little script.

>
> # Give user promt, then return control to parent shell.
> printf "Enter the name of the command.\n"
>
> #end menu.sh
>
>
> It may not look like much, but the 3 lines of code in the above script,
> can replace the 100,000+ files needed to support gnome or kde.

Of course it would, Junior. And I suggest that you immediately
disinstall your GDE and rely on that script.

>

He _must_ be a GDE user. Doesn't even know that all you have to do is
hit Tab twice, and then y, to list all the executables on your
system. Scroll through the list with Shift-PageUp/Down.

Still, this is the most intelligent response I've gotten to date
on this thread.

These losers sure go off the deep end over a simple menu script.

Ever seen any of them post a useful script? Nope.

What you are looking at is jealousy and envy, clearly.


Sid


Aragorn

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Sep 24, 2009, 5:49:34 PM9/24/09
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On Thursday 24 September 2009 23:26, someone identifying as *Sidney
Lambe* wrote in /comp.os.linux.misc:/

> jellybean stonerfish <stone...@geocities.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:22:52 +0200, Sidney Lambe wrote:
>>
>>> This improved version of the former script allows for the creation
>>> of submenus.
>>>
>>> #!/bin/bash
>>>
>>> #menu.sh
>>>
>>> # Put the script in your PATH and make it executable with: # $ chmod

>>> # +rx


>>> menu.sh
>>><<< S N I P >>>>
>>>
>>> case "$bb" in
>>>
>>> a) foo=$(echo "$var1") ; sm ;;
>>><<< S N I P >>>>
>>> z) foo=$(echo "$var26") ; sm ;;
>>>
>>> esac

>> #!/bin/bash
>>
>> #menu.sh
>> # Based on an idea from Sidney Lambe
>> # His version listed 26 programs and required input of a
>> # letter (a-z)
>> # This version lists all available programs in the /usr/bin
>> # or /bin directory, dynamically. Then a prompt is given,
>> # and control is passed to the parent shell.
>>
>> # Generate list of programs available.
>> printf "Please choose a command from the following list.\n"
>> ls {/usr,}/bin
>
> I wonder how much time on google he had to spend to find that
> little script.

It's not a script, you idiot, it's simply a list of all executables in
*/bin* and */usr/bin.* In other words, it's not even a menu, and it
was simply a way of telling you how you write complicated scripts to do
easy things in a complicated manner.

>> # Give user promt, then return control to parent shell.
>> printf "Enter the name of the command.\n"
>>
>> #end menu.sh
>>
>>
>> It may not look like much, but the 3 lines of code in the above
>> script, can replace the 100,000+ files needed to support gnome or
>> kde.
>
> Of course it would, Junior. And I suggest that you immediately
> disinstall your GDE and rely on that script.

Why is it so hard for you to grasp that even an experienced shell user
may want to use a GDE for *some* things?

> He _must_ be a GDE user.

And you're a GDE racist, apparently.

> Doesn't even know that all you have to do is hit Tab twice, and then
> y, to list all the executables on your system. Scroll through the list
> with Shift-PageUp/Down.

Sure... There's only about 2500 to choose from on a moderate GNU/Linux
installation. Should be a breeze to go over that. Far easier than
clicking on an icon that actually has a meaningful name, right?

> Still, this is the most intelligent response I've gotten to date
> on this thread.
>
> These losers sure go off the deep end over a simple menu script.

So you're missing *that* point as well, huh? It's not the script in
itself they are criticizing, but the way you present it, with arrogance
and an obvious display of the same lack of understanding of the shell
which you accuse other people of having.

> Ever seen any of them post a useful script? Nope.

I have, on numerous occasions. And yes, I have saved some of them in a
dedicated folder in my newsreader, so that I can study them and
evaluate them, and reimplement them for my own purposes.

> What you are looking at is jealousy and envy, clearly.

No, quite clearly, it is neither jealousy nor envy. And as others have
already said to you, if you were to conduct yourself as a serious and
friendly human being instead of the namecalling, crossposting, trolling
bully that you are, then people would actually take your seriously.

$DEITY_OF_CHOICE knows I've tried, but no matter how polite, respecting
and courteous I was with you, you immediately started calling me names
and accusing me of being other people. All because you could not
provide evidence for the claims you were making - which is not *my*
fault but *your* *own* fault; you should never make such ridiculous
claims unless you can prove them - and because I didn't agree with you
on a number of technical matters.

So in this world of freedom, apparently you have freedom of speech and I
don't - at least, according to your stance. Once you realize that you
are your own biggest problem, the solution will become easier. Here's
a clue: you need to change your ways. Nobody likes bullies or trolls.

Sidney Lambe

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Sep 24, 2009, 6:36:48 PM9/24/09
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Sidney Lambe <sidne...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> jellybean stonerfish <stone...@geocities.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:22:52 +0200, Sidney Lambe wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> This improved version of the former script allows for the
>>> creation of submenus.
>>>
>>> #!/bin/bash
>>>
>>> #menu.sh
>>>
>>> # Put the script in your PATH and make it executable with: #
>>>$ chmod +rx menu.sh <<< S N I P >>>>
>>>
>>> case "$bb" in
>>>
>>> a) foo=$(echo "$var1") ; sm ;; <<< S N I P >>>> z) foo=$(echo
>>>"$var26") ; sm ;;
>>>
>>> esac
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sid
>>
>> Hi Sid. I read your script and I think you may be on to a
>> great idea. This modified version of your script lists all
>> programs dynamically, and does not need a configuration file.
>>
>>
>> #!/bin/bash
>>

>> #menu.sh Based on an idea from Sidney Lambe His version
>> #listed 26 programs and required input of a letter (a-z) This
>> #version lists all available programs in the /usr/bin or /bin
>> #directory, dynamically. Then a prompt is given, and control
>> #is passed to the parent shell.


>>
>> # Generate list of programs available. printf "Please choose a
>> command from the following list.\n" ls {/usr,}/bin
>
> I wonder how much time on google he had to spend to find that
> little script.
>
>
>> # Give user promt, then return control to parent shell. printf
>> "Enter the name of the command.\n"
>>
>> #end menu.sh
>>
>>
>> It may not look like much, but the 3 lines of code in the
>> above script, can replace the 100,000+ files needed to support
>> gnome or kde.

This snotty juvenile delinquent and wannabee Linux runner doesn't
realize that he's hit very close to the mark.

The purpose of _my_ script _is_ to replace whatever Windows-clone
interface some corporate-sponsored technocrat has manipulated you
into becoming dependent on.

All you need is a minimal X install on top of the base system,
with a basic window manager and an x-terminal-emulator and
my script.

With it you can create a menu tree that has everything in it
that the one on your GDE currently has.

You don't need the GDE to run any of the individual apps that
come with it, just the libs, same as for any other application.

During the process of creating _your_ menu tree you will learn
a lot about the Linux OS. And then you can make your OS run
better and faster, more secure, and much easier to manage by
uninstalling kde/gnome/xfce (being sure to stash copies of the
application binaries/their configuration files, and the basic GDE
libs if you are going to be using any of the apps that came with
the GDE. I've never needed any of those apps. There are plenty of
good substitutes for them, graphical and console.

Sid

Wanna-Be Sys Admin

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Sep 24, 2009, 6:44:35 PM9/24/09
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Sidney Lambe wrote:

<snip more, you fool>

>> # Generate list of programs available.
>> printf "Please choose a command from the following list.\n"
>> ls {/usr,}/bin
>
> I wonder how much time on google he had to spend to find that
> little script.

It's not a really a script, troll boy.


> He _must_ be a GDE user. Doesn't even know that all you have to do is
> hit Tab twice, and then y, to list all the executables on your
> system. Scroll through the list with Shift-PageUp/Down.

And yet, you tried to write a menu script for listing them, you shell
guru, you.

> Still, this is the most intelligent response I've gotten to date
> on this thread.

Considerably more than your own, and he was mocking you when he posted
the better solution than your trash.

> These losers sure go off the deep end over a simple menu script.

Not at all, you are the one that continues to bring it up, even starting
new threads about it, because you want to feel important. People are
just calling you on it, especially since no one asked for it in the
thread, nor did anyone ask you to start a new thread about it. If it
were something useful, that would be a different story (even if you're
not liked).

> Ever seen any of them post a useful script? Nope.

I guess you should include yourself in that group.

> What you are looking at is jealousy and envy, clearly.
>

Only a nut case like you would think anyone's jealous of you.

Wanna-Be Sys Admin

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Sep 24, 2009, 6:54:33 PM9/24/09
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Sidney Lambe wrote:

<snip>


>
> This snotty juvenile delinquent and wannabee Linux runner doesn't
> realize that he's hit very close to the mark.
>
> The purpose of _my_ script _is_ to replace whatever Windows-clone
> interface some corporate-sponsored technocrat has manipulated you
> into becoming dependent on.

No one's dependant on anything. Some users surely might be, but that's
irrelevant. There are existing solutions for menu's in cli, yours
didn't do anything useful and required a pre-listed set up static
commands in a flat file (which was empty in your example to boot).



> All you need is a minimal X install on top of the base system,
> with a basic window manager and an x-terminal-emulator and
> my script.

You don't even need that, and everyone here likely has all of that (and
MORE).

> With it you can create a menu tree that has everything in it
> that the one on your GDE currently has.

Not quite, but no one ever said a menu or cli environment was a bad
thing. No one's ever disagreed about shell being useful and powerful.
No one's ever discouraged anyone from using shell one single time on
any Linux group I've ever seen. Still, you continue with your anti_GDE
rants every fucking minute you get a chance/every post, no matter how
irrelevant it is to the topic/discussion.

> You don't need the GDE to run any of the individual apps that
> come with it, just the libs, same as for any other application.

No one said anyone needed a GDE. Your irrational attitude about it
compelled you to post a broken ass, stupid, useless script. You were
called on it, end of story.

> During the process of creating _your_ menu tree you will learn
> a lot about the Linux OS.

Or maybe they won't. You clearly have no clue, after all.

> And then you can make your OS run
> better and faster, more secure, and much easier to manage by
> uninstalling kde/gnome/xfce

Absolutely UNtrue. If a user doesn't know how to properly secure their
system, it's irrelevant if they use a GDE or not. Also, it's more
likely less easily managed without the interface that more users can
more easily use. After all, you can't manage to get around the cli at
all, yet you insist it's better. You are one of the people that really
could benefit from a "GDE", Sid. Many of us actually do fine in shell
and use it all day, so we know you're a fraud. The fact that some of
us use a GDE at home or otherwise for other things, doesn't change that
fact.

> (being sure to stash copies of the
> application binaries/their configuration files, and the basic GDE
> libs if you are going to be using any of the apps that came with
> the GDE. I've never needed any of those apps. There are plenty of
> good substitutes for them, graphical and console.
>

But when you are so clueless as you, Sid, it really makes no difference
if you use a GDE or the CLI, you're still fucked. Now, leave the
advice to the group users that know what they are talking about.
Historically, every single user on all of the Linux groups for the last
year or so have all called you on your bullshit at some point. Not a
single person out of thousands of these members has ever responded in a
manner which indicates you have a clue of what you're doing. All of
that, and you are still insistent that you are the most skilled, valued
member of the groups. It's pathetic. You should kill yourself.

Wanna-Be Sys Admin

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Sep 24, 2009, 6:56:41 PM9/24/09
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Sidney Lambe wrote:

> Nico Kadel-Garcia <nka...@gmail.com> wrote:
...


>> Go look at sourceforge and CRM114.
>
> Any rational person who was telling the truth here would have simply
> posted a link.
>
> Your name appearing on a document at sourceforge means nothing.
>
> Someone has to sweep the floor there...
>
> Sid

There's an Internet "floor"? Sid, if you had anything of value, sense
or merit, you'd not be so envious of everyone else and claim these
things. It's not like people will just allow anyone to post a
contributing or author credit on a program or script. Your ego is just
too fragile to handle usenet, you should leave, or end your life. If
you need help with either, there's plenty of more suitable groups you
could frequent.

Baho Utot

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Sep 24, 2009, 7:17:23 PM9/24/09
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 15:54:33 -0700, Wanna-Be Sys Admin wrote:

[putolin]

>>
> But when you are so clueless as you, Sid, it really makes no difference
> if you use a GDE or the CLI, you're still fucked. Now, leave the advice
> to the group users that know what they are talking about. Historically,
> every single user on all of the Linux groups for the last year or so
> have all called you on your bullshit at some point. Not a single person
> out of thousands of these members has ever responded in a manner which
> indicates you have a clue of what you're doing. All of that, and you are
> still insistent that you are the most skilled, valued member of the
> groups. It's pathetic. You should kill yourself.

Well you are wrong I think Sid knows exactly what he is doing, not only
that, he posts very relevent information that all linux users can benefit
greatly from.

I whole heartedly agree that he is the most awesome, skilled and valued
member of this news group.

--
GNU/Linux runs on IBM mainframes and on the world's fastest supercomputers
Windows supercomputers on the other hand are called botnets. <grin>

Wanna-Be Sys Admin

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Sep 24, 2009, 8:07:45 PM9/24/09
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Baho Utot wrote:

>
> Well you are wrong I think Sid knows exactly what he is doing, not
> only that, he posts very relevent information that all linux users can
> benefit greatly from.
>
> I whole heartedly agree that he is the most awesome, skilled and
> valued member of this news group.
>

So you agree he should kill himself, too, right? ;-)

Sidney Lambe

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Sep 24, 2009, 8:26:48 PM9/24/09
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Sidney Lambe <sidne...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

wannabe sysadmin, if you really want to be a sysadmin, what you
need to do is shut your punk mouth and hit the books

you won't become a sysadmin trying to hassle someone who thinks
you are a stupid punk and doesn't even bother reading your
articles any more

the usenet is full of dickless losers who hide behind fake names
and the internet and run their sewer mouths all day long

a bunch of them post all the time on my threads because they just
don't have lives

the poor feebs actually seem to believe that I read their articles

you want to be a sysadmin or one of these losers?

can't be both


Sid


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Shell Interface Mailing List
screening address: usenet4444
[AT] gmail (dot) com

Wanna-Be Sys Admin

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Sep 24, 2009, 8:45:19 PM9/24/09
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Sidney Lambe wrote:

> Sidney Lambe <sidne...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
> wannabe sysadmin, if you really want to be a sysadmin, what you
> need to do is shut your punk mouth and hit the books

HAHAHAHAAAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! I know more than you ever will, plus I have
a sense of humility and decency, unlike you.

> you won't become a sysadmin trying to hassle someone who thinks
> you are a stupid punk and doesn't even bother reading your
> articles any more

HAHAHAHAAAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Sure you don't. ;-)

> the usenet is full of dickless losers who hide behind fake names
> and the internet and run their sewer mouths all day long

HAHAHAHAAAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Yes, that's you alright.

> a bunch of them post all the time on my threads because they just
> don't have lives

HAHAHAHAAAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Or because they are tied of your bullshit,
bully attitude and you constantly invite such responses ripping you a
new one. Try posting something civil, on topic and
informative/valueable and see how differently you're treated. But,
you're not capable of that, are you.

> the poor feebs actually seem to believe that I read their articles

HAHAHAHAAAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Well, you post to someone, people are
bound to think that when you respond to them, it's because you're read
their posts. Are you a child? Do you really need to go so far out of
your way to let someone know you're not reading their posts? I find
your claim suspicious at best, and retarded at fact.



> you want to be a sysadmin or one of these losers?

HAHAHAHAAAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! I already am a well paid sys admin that's
been at this for many, many years, which is why I find your rantings so
compelling to reply to and point out how kooky and stupid you are.
Admit this at least, regardless of what/who, you will claim anyone's a
loser that calls you on your bullshit, doesn't put up with your
bullshit, or even disagrees with you (even if they are civil about it).

> can't be both

HAHAHAHAAAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! I'm sure there are plenty of loser sys
admins that have skills. You just happen to be a non skilled, non sys
admin type of loser and you're taking your anger out on everyone else.

> Sid

HAHAHAHAAAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Seriously though, thanks for the laughs. I know you're stupid and
arrogant (a terrible mix), but it still amazes me that you can't see
that every single person has slammed you. It's like you and your
paranoid, incorrect, clueless views and shitty attitude against
*everyone else* and you just keep picking single names at random and
passing insults. I mean, how fucking belligerent can be be, and for
how long, in opposition to every single damn person here, and still
think you're "the man"? Geeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzz luuuuiiiiiiisssssssss!
Still, thanks for the laugh.

PS: weren't you supposed to have cast your "special" wiccan magic(k)
spell on me? Oh yeah, another usenet-tough guy. Oye vay.

Sidney Lambe

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He actually replied to this post.

I think he actually believes that I read his articles.

<snicker>

Junior, if someone told me that I had to read another one of your
shit articles to save your life, you'd be dead meat.

There are a couple of trolls with scores of aliases apiece who
have been following me around since I arrived on the Usenet. I
have dumped thousands of their articles unread. And thousands of
replies to their articles.

They think they are bothering me.

<snicker>


Sid


Baho Utot

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Sep 25, 2009, 4:46:42 AM9/25/09
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:07:45 -0700, Wanna-Be Sys Admin wrote:

> Baho Utot wrote:
>
>
>> Well you are wrong I think Sid knows exactly what he is doing, not only
>> that, he posts very relevent information that all linux users can
>> benefit greatly from.
>>
>> I whole heartedly agree that he is the most awesome, skilled and valued
>> member of this news group.
>>
>>
> So you agree he should kill himself, too, right? ;-)

No, just take a chill pill for 50 years

Wanna-Be Sys Admin

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Sep 25, 2009, 5:16:25 AM9/25/09
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Sidney Lambe wrote:

> Sidney Lambe <sidne...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> Sidney Lambe <sidne...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> wannabe sysadmin, if you really want to be a sysadmin, what you
>> need to do is shut your punk mouth and hit the books
>>
>> you won't become a sysadmin trying to hassle someone who thinks
>> you are a stupid punk and doesn't even bother reading your
>> articles any more
>>
>> the usenet is full of dickless losers who hide behind fake names
>> and the internet and run their sewer mouths all day long
>>
>> a bunch of them post all the time on my threads because they just
>> don't have lives
>>
>> the poor feebs actually seem to believe that I read their articles
>>
>> you want to be a sysadmin or one of these losers?
>>
>> can't be both
>>
>>
>> Sid
>>
>>
>> --
>> Shell Interface Mailing List
>> screening address: usenet4444
>> [AT] gmail (dot) com
>
>
> He actually replied to this post.

Yeah, you posted about me to accuse me, of course I'll reply.

> I think he actually believes that I read his articles.

Yet, somehow you "mysteriously" know I replied, yet you didn't see it.
Sure, okay then. Anyway, you not only posted to tell me you weren't
paying any attention, but you post again to tell me that you still
aren't, and that you don't bother, yet know I replied. Okay, whatever.
Do you really think anyone gives a shit if you read what they say?

> <snicker>

Oh, sure "snicker", because you're so full of yourself that you think
you control the group.

> Junior,

Yes, "junior" to insinuate that I'm some kid that is your intellectual
inferior or have to learn to get "where you're at" and am not there
yet. Wow, what an incredibly prediectable attitude.

> if someone told me that I had to read another one of your
> shit articles to save your life, you'd be dead meat.

If anything you said or did somehow dictated if I lived or died, I'd
rather be dead. At this point, it doesn't even dictate or incite an
emotional response. I just think you're dumb and desperate to disprove
anyone you can when they show you up.

> There are a couple of trolls with scores of aliases apiece who
> have been following me around since I arrived on the Usenet.

You think you're that important? How about the fact that not a single
person in any of the Linux groups respect you at all, not a single one,
not since you've started posting on usenet's Linux groups. You want to
accuse every single person of being mentally unstable trolls. Okay,
whatever.

> I
> have dumped thousands of their articles unread. And thousands of
> replies to their articles.

You can actually believe that everyone's against you and you're
brilliant, and you can continue to post arrogance bullshit to convince
yourself, but you're on your own, retard.

> They think they are bothering me.

I don't think anyone or anything bothers you. But, you do read the
posts regardless of what you claim.

> <snicker>

Again with the "snicker". You are truly retarded. The attitude and
arrogance, so prominant in your personality, yet so fucking clueless.
Wow, you should kill yourself.

The Natural Philosopher

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Sep 25, 2009, 5:16:10 AM9/25/09
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Well Linux is so perfect and its GUIS so smooth, that there isn't
anything else to talk about?

Wanna-Be Sys Admin

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Sep 25, 2009, 5:17:41 AM9/25/09
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Baho Utot wrote:

>> So you agree he should kill himself, too, right? ;-)
>
> No, just take a chill pill for 50 years

Well, I am going to stick with he should kill himself, it's just faster
and more effective. Just squash the bug now and get it over with sort
of view.

jellybean stonerfish

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Sep 25, 2009, 2:38:22 PM9/25/09
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 23:26:38 +0200, Sidney Lambe wrote:

> He _must_ be a GDE user. Doesn't even know that all you have to do is
> hit Tab twice, and then y, to list all the executables on your system.
> Scroll through the list with Shift-PageUp/Down.

I do have 'completion' in my shell. I was thinking of piping the output
of 'ls {/usr,}/bin' through 'more' but I felt that would resemble tab
completion too much, add too much user interface. KISS.

Sidney Lambe

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Sep 25, 2009, 4:18:18 PM9/25/09
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jellybean stonerfish <stone...@geocities.com> wrote:

Isn't he so very clever. I'll bet he gets straight A's from
his 6th grade teacher. And a cute little gold star on his
forehead.

The script I posted here is very simple. It makes it easy for
someone to create a menu tree they can function as a substitute
for the massive, limiting, and complex Windows-clone interfaces,
the Graphical Desktop Environments (GDE), like kde/gnome/xfce.

Properly filling in the menu requires a little knowledge of the
Linux operating system and the bash shell, but only the very
basics. Nothing even a 6th grader like you couldn't handle.

It runs off lists in /etc/menu that contain command lines
enclosed in double quotes (or the name of a submenu, see
the commented notes in the script).

Just fill them in with the commands you usually run. Don't
need to run kde in order to run the apps that come with it.
All you need is a minimal X install. Window manager and
x-term.

Here, Junior. In the hopes that you will do something besides
wandering the Internet and wasting yours and other people's time
with garbage like the above article, here are some study links
for the Linux operating system.

That's what's being hidden by that kindergarten training wheel
interface your using.

http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/howlinuxworks/
http://rute.2038bug.com/rute.html.tar.bz2
http://www.linuxpackages.net/howto/slackfiles/books/slackware-basics/html/shell.
html
http://www.usefuljaja.com/2007/5/bash-who-where-and-what
http://www.usefuljaja.com/2007/5/bash-man-command
http://www.usefuljaja.com/2007/5/bash-directory-manipulation
http://www.usefuljaja.com/2007/5/bash-files-manipulation
http://www.usefuljaja.com/2007/6/bash-history-in-the-making
http://www.usefuljaja.com/2007/6/bash-use-your-local-bin
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ
http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html
http://linuxreviews.org/beginner/abs-guide/en/
http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10878_11-1052574.html
kind of odd "shell ninja" but lots of good info:
http://www.slideshare.net/brian_dailey/nyphp-march-2009-presentation
http://stat-www.berkeley.edu/classes/s243/bash.html
http://www.learnaboutlinux.net/blog/41-programming/50-bash-basics-1
http://linux.about.com/cs/glossaries/a/aglossary.htm
http://tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Dictionary/
http://www.pathname.com/fhs/

http://axiom.anu.edu.au/~okeefe/p2b
for:
From-PowerUp-To-Bash-Prompt-HOWTO
Building a Minimal Linux System from Source Code


Sid


Baho Utot

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Sep 25, 2009, 6:00:04 PM9/25/09
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On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 02:17:41 -0700, Wanna-Be Sys Admin wrote:

> Baho Utot wrote:
>
>>> So you agree he should kill himself, too, right? ;-)
>>
>> No, just take a chill pill for 50 years
>
> Well, I am going to stick with he should kill himself, it's just faster
> and more effective. Just squash the bug now and get it over with sort
> of view.

But that colud be messy, Why should someone have to clean that up?

Baho Utot

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Sep 25, 2009, 6:15:16 PM9/25/09
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Please don't tll me you just kissed Sid

Wanna-Be Sys Admin

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Sep 25, 2009, 7:08:34 PM9/25/09
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Baho Utot wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 02:17:41 -0700, Wanna-Be Sys Admin wrote:
>
>> Baho Utot wrote:
>>
>>>> So you agree he should kill himself, too, right? ;-)
>>>
>>> No, just take a chill pill for 50 years
>>
>> Well, I am going to stick with he should kill himself, it's just
>> faster
>> and more effective. Just squash the bug now and get it over with
>> sort of view.
>
> But that colud be messy, Why should someone have to clean that up?

Nature has a way of taking care of those things on its own. He will be
reclaimed.

jellybean stonerfish

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Sep 25, 2009, 7:32:35 PM9/25/09
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On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 22:18:18 +0200, Sidney Lambe wrote:

> It runs off lists in /etc/menu that contain command lines enclosed in
> double quotes (or the name of a submenu, see the commented notes in the
> script).
>
> Just fill them in with the commands you usually run. Don't need to run
> kde in order to run the apps that come with it. All you need is a
> minimal X install. Window manager and x-term.

You are insane. It is easier to remember the first couple of letters and
hit tab, then it is to remember a random letter for a command.

jellybean stonerfish

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Sep 25, 2009, 7:34:06 PM9/25/09
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On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:15:16 -0400, Baho Utot wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:38:22 +0000, jellybean stonerfish wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 23:26:38 +0200, Sidney Lambe wrote:
>>
>>> He _must_ be a GDE user. Doesn't even know that all you have to do is
>>> hit Tab twice, and then y, to list all the executables on your system.
>>> Scroll through the list with Shift-PageUp/Down.
>>
>> I do have 'completion' in my shell. I was thinking of piping the
>> output of 'ls {/usr,}/bin' through 'more' but I felt that would
>> resemble tab completion too much, add too much user interface. KISS.
>
> Please don't tll me you just kissed Sid

Keep It Simple Stupid

In other words, forget the whole menu idea and just type the name of the
command you want if you like cli.

Baho Utot

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Sep 25, 2009, 8:15:59 PM9/25/09
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On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:08:34 -0700, Wanna-Be Sys Admin wrote:

> Baho Utot wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 02:17:41 -0700, Wanna-Be Sys Admin wrote:
>>
>>> Baho Utot wrote:
>>>
>>>>> So you agree he should kill himself, too, right? ;-)
>>>>
>>>> No, just take a chill pill for 50 years
>>>
>>> Well, I am going to stick with he should kill himself, it's just
>>> faster
>>> and more effective. Just squash the bug now and get it over with sort
>>> of view.
>>
>> But that colud be messy, Why should someone have to clean that up?
>
> Nature has a way of taking care of those things on its own. He will be
> reclaimed.

Are you sure nature will want to "take care" of this?

I don't think it would be a good thing to impose onto mother nature, as
she just might get mad and you shouldn't mess with mother nature.

Well if you insist...You can claim him, although I don't know why you
would want too.

Baho Utot

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Sep 25, 2009, 8:06:51 PM9/25/09
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On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 23:34:06 +0000, jellybean stonerfish wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:15:16 -0400, Baho Utot wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:38:22 +0000, jellybean stonerfish wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 23:26:38 +0200, Sidney Lambe wrote:
>>>
>>>> He _must_ be a GDE user. Doesn't even know that all you have to do is
>>>> hit Tab twice, and then y, to list all the executables on your
>>>> system. Scroll through the list with Shift-PageUp/Down.
>>>
>>> I do have 'completion' in my shell. I was thinking of piping the
>>> output of 'ls {/usr,}/bin' through 'more' but I felt that would
>>> resemble tab completion too much, add too much user interface. KISS.
>>
>> Please don't tll me you just kissed Sid
>
> Keep It Simple Stupid
>

I still think you just wanted to kiss Sid :)

Dan C

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Sep 25, 2009, 9:21:28 PM9/25/09
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:53:14 +1000, faeychild wrote:

> Dan C wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:22:52 +0200, Sidney Lambe wrote:
>
>

>> "Improved"? LOL! It's absolute and utter garbage. Fuck off and die,
>> Alan Connor.
>
>
> probably a dumb question ,Dan.
>
> Is this the same Alan Connor of kernel fame or a different bloke? Always
> wondered.

You are thinking of Alan Cox.

Alan Connor is the most widely detested Kook in the history of Usenet.
He currently posts from the name "Sidney Lambe", and sometimes
"Evergreen" when he forgets he isn't in the "majick" groups. He also
posted formerly as "Tom Newton", and some others that I've forgotten.

He's a certified whacko, who believes in magic, Sasquatch, and has been
abducted by aliens at least once. He is believed to reside in the
northwestern part of Washington state, probably in a mental hospital.

It's best to just ignore him, or ridicule him if you must. He's a
complete whack job and an utter luser.


--
"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".
"Bother!" said Pooh, as he garotted another passing Liberal.
Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/

Dan C

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Sep 25, 2009, 9:28:53 PM9/25/09
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:45:54 +0200, Sidney Lambe wrote:

> Nico Kadel-Garcia <nka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sep 24, 5:23=A0am, Sidney Lambe <sidneyla...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> =A03! D =A0 200 =A0 20:[Dan C =A0 =A0 =A0 ] =A0 =A0+-> =A04! D =A0 100
>>> =A0 28:[Loki Harfagr] =A0 =A0| +-> =A05! D =A0 100 =A0 18:[faeychild
>>> =A0 ] =A0 =A0| `-> =A06! D =A0 200 =A0 13:[Nico Kadel-G] =A0 =A0+->
>>> =A07! D =A0 100 =A0 45:[Wanna-Be Sys] =A0 =A0| `-> =A08! D =A0 200 =A0
>>> 57:[jellybean st] =A0 =A0+->
>>>
>>> Never seen any of those people post any scripts before.
>>
>> My public ones are mostly in open source products, and an occasional
>> relevant question. You know, at Sourceforge? Not posted to noone who
>> asked for it.
>
> Right. Except that we don't see any links to these supposed
> accomplishements, do we.

Hey, Alan Connor. I see "Nico" is in your killfile that you posted for
us up above. How can you see (and reply to!) his post if you've got him
KF'd?

LOL! Outed, again!!! Too easy.

Wanna-Be Sys Admin

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Sep 25, 2009, 9:47:45 PM9/25/09
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Dan C wrote:

> On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:45:54 +0200, Sidney Lambe wrote:
>

...


>> Right. Except that we don't see any links to these supposed
>> accomplishements, do we.
>
> Hey, Alan Connor. I see "Nico" is in your killfile that you posted
> for
> us up above. How can you see (and reply to!) his post if you've got
> him KF'd?
>
> LOL! Outed, again!!! Too easy.
>
>

Ironically, outting this idiot will not change his actions on usenet.
We all know he reads everyone's posts he says that he doesn't read,
because he replies to them and what they said. Sid is just desperate
to make any claim to appear "above" people he doesn't like. Sadly, he
has no skills or information to offer, and he doesn't like a single
usenet member, in any group, so he's just an arrogant, clueless
fucktard. He'll never stop thinking he's important, I don't think
he'll ever stop. So, poke fun/mock him, but don't think outting him or
correcting or proving anything will make any difference at all to his
attitude or actions. But, I guess we all already know this. I hope he
drowns himself in a cold lake.

Wanna-Be Sys Admin

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Sep 25, 2009, 9:50:33 PM9/25/09
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Baho Utot wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:08:34 -0700, Wanna-Be Sys Admin wrote:
>
>> Baho Utot wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 02:17:41 -0700, Wanna-Be Sys Admin wrote:
>>>
>>>> Baho Utot wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> So you agree he should kill himself, too, right? ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> No, just take a chill pill for 50 years
>>>>
>>>> Well, I am going to stick with he should kill himself, it's just
>>>> faster
>>>> and more effective. Just squash the bug now and get it over with
>>>> sort of view.
>>>
>>> But that colud be messy, Why should someone have to clean that up?
>>
>> Nature has a way of taking care of those things on its own. He will
>> be reclaimed.
>
> Are you sure nature will want to "take care" of this?
>
> I don't think it would be a good thing to impose onto mother nature,
> as she just might get mad and you shouldn't mess with mother nature.
>
> Well if you insist...You can claim him, although I don't know why you
> would want too.
>

Okay, those are all valid points. So, should we start a super fund to
launch the retard into deep space? Atomic incineration is equally
appealing, but I don't want to think that some day someonemight breath
in those toasted, dusty molecules that are bound to be left over or
bound to some other element (and who knows what sort of scary stuff
that could create).

Maxwell Lol

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Sep 25, 2009, 10:14:31 PM9/25/09
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Sidney Lambe <sidne...@nospam.invalid> writes:

> First off, I'd like to tell Chris F.A. Johnson, the
> technocratic bully who drops by here now and then
> to tell people who aren't experts like he is that
> they are idiots who shouldn't be shellscripting:


Hey Alan - if you think your scripts are so cool, why don't you write
a book? And then you can brag that your book sold more copies that Chris's
book, and got better reviews.

But of course you are just a lazy demogogue self-inflated with hatred
and hot air. It's so much easier to bitch and nymshift that to do real
work, eh?

Maxwell Lol

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Sep 25, 2009, 10:36:08 PM9/25/09
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jellybean stonerfish <stone...@geocities.com> writes:

And if you really wanted to, you could create a directory that has
links to a set of 26 executables (or so), and change the searchpath
while running the script to ONLY use that directory.

When you press tab, you will only match the 26 executables in the
searchpath.

Alan/Sid's script requires someone to
(a) move their eyes from the bottom of the terminal window to the menu
(b) scan the menu, looking for the name of the probram that is available
(c) Find the letter associated with that program
(d) type in the letter.

As Jellyfish says, the approach described here eliminates 3 of those 4 steps.

If the files needed a real searchpath, you could have a wrapper script
that prepends the proper searchpath, and then executes the proper program.


.


Maxwell Lol

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Sep 25, 2009, 10:39:20 PM9/25/09
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Sidney Lambe <sidne...@nospam.invalid> writes:


> No point in reading those.

Reality is so hard to grasp, eh?

Sidney Lambe

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Sep 26, 2009, 12:21:06 AM9/26/09
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Sidney Lambe <sidne...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

[delete]

>! - 200 30:[Dan C ] /+-Re: Improved Menu Script
2! - 100 30:[Wanna-Be Sys] | `->
3! - 100 41:[Wanna-Be Sys] +->
4! - 200 16:[Maxwell Lol ] +->
5! - 100 39:[Maxwell Lol ] +->
6! - 200 6:[Maxwell Lol ] `->
7

I know those names. They don't know anything worth knowing, are
incredibly dishonest, complete cowards, and utterly harmless.

Which is why they have to create sockpuppets and talk
to themselves most of the time.

Like me, most people don't even bother reading their articles.

None of them know anything about shell scripting. Takes a bit
of study to learn to shell script and they never shut their
sewer mouths long enough to study anything.

No. Don't tell me what they posted. I couldn't care less.
I have dumped thousands of articles from them and will
dump thousands more.

While the poor clueless feebs imagine that they are harassing
me.

Why don't they have lives? Why don't they seek the help of
good therapists? I don't know. And I don't care.

I think they want me to track them down.

Can't imagine why I'd waste my time doing that. I've already seen
a fat mentally ill creep sitting in front of a computer posting
malicious garbage on the Internet. It wasn't a pleasant sight and
I have no desire to repeat it.

Sid


jellybean stonerfish

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Sep 26, 2009, 1:05:20 AM9/26/09
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On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:06:51 -0400, Baho Utot wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 23:34:06 +0000, jellybean stonerfish wrote:
>>>> KISS.
>>>
>>> Please don't tll me you just kissed Sid
>>
>> Keep It Simple Stupid
>>
>>
> I still think you just wanted to kiss Sid :)

OK, you outed me.

Baho Utot

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Sep 26, 2009, 5:08:18 AM9/26/09
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What if some alien civilization found him and reconstructed or revived
him and sent him back?

As pissed as they may become after they reconsituted him, they would be
sure start an invasion, a war of the worlds. Who could blame them?

The Natural Philosopher

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Sep 26, 2009, 8:55:25 AM9/26/09
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well he certainly isn't of this world, so guardedly I support the idea
of sending him to another one.

But since he hasn't even ,mastered this one, I fear for his abilities to
make it on the next ;-)

The Natural Philosopher

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Sep 26, 2009, 8:56:07 AM9/26/09
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Reality is for those who cant handle drugs.

Sadly Sidney is equally at sea with either.

Wanna-Be Sys Admin

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Sep 26, 2009, 6:21:05 PM9/26/09
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Baho Utot wrote:

> What if some alien civilization found him and reconstructed or revived
> him and sent him back?
>
> As pissed as they may become after they reconsituted him, they would
> be sure start an invasion, a war of the worlds.  Who could blame them?

Good point, we don't want to start an inter-stellar war.

TJ

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Sep 26, 2009, 8:28:31 PM9/26/09
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Sidney Lambe wrote:
>
> Anyone can write shell scripts and no one requires
> your approval in the matter.
>
Sidney, anyone can use KDE or Gnome, and no one requires YOUR approval
in the matter, either. Some of us LIKE being brainless minions of vast
corporate conspiracies. It makes us feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

I have an idea. Suppose you do what YOU want, and leave the rest of us
alone to do what WE want.

TJ
--
All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.
From the ashes a fire shall be woken,
A light from the shadows shall spring;
Renewed shall be blade that was broken,
The crownless again shall be king.

J.R.R.Tolkien

Wanna-Be Sys Admin

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Sep 26, 2009, 9:34:05 PM9/26/09
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Sidney Lambe wrote:

> Sidney Lambe <sidne...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
> [delete]
>
>>! - 200 30:[Dan C ] /+-Re: Improved Menu Script
> 2! - 100 30:[Wanna-Be Sys] | `->
> 3! - 100 41:[Wanna-Be Sys] +->
> 4! - 200 16:[Maxwell Lol ] +->
> 5! - 100 39:[Maxwell Lol ] +->
> 6! - 200 6:[Maxwell Lol ] `->
> 7
>
> I know those names. They don't know anything worth knowing, are
> incredibly dishonest, complete cowards, and utterly harmless.

Uh huh, that's not YOU at all, eh?

> Which is why they have to create sockpuppets and talk
> to themselves most of the time.

Unproven, untrue. This has been proven about you, however.

> Like me, most people don't even bother reading their articles.

You think you're important enough to speak for everyone. Ironic, you
are the one everyone ignores, not a single member respects or agrees
with you.

> None of them know anything about shell scripting. Takes a bit
> of study to learn to shell script and they never shut their
> sewer mouths long enough to study anything.

All of us have proven to know more than you about every topic, including
shell scripting. Ironic that all you do is insult people and troll.
I'm starting to wonder if you really believe what you say anymore.

> No. Don't tell me what they posted. I couldn't care less.
> I have dumped thousands of articles from them and will
> dump thousands more.

You do read posts by us, because you respond to them. What sort of
jackass goes out of their way to constantly tell someone that they
aren't reading their articles anyway? Maybe if you really didn't read
them, you'd calm down a bit. Unlikely.

> While the poor clueless feebs imagine that they are harassing
> me.

Ironic, you harass everyone and are the most clueless, you've been
proven to be, but you think all you need to do is make the claim and
that's "good enough" proof. Pathetic.

> Why don't they have lives? Why don't they seek the help of
> good therapists? I don't know. And I don't care.

Ironic. Get a mirror, wacko.

> I think they want me to track them down.

You actually think anyone's worried about you? If you want to try and
"track me down", just ask for my info. I'll give it to you, you can
come on by.

> Can't imagine why I'd waste my time doing that. I've already seen
> a fat mentally ill creep sitting in front of a computer posting
> malicious garbage on the Internet. It wasn't a pleasant sight and
> I have no desire to repeat it.
>
> Sid

Get a mirror, Sid. No one takes you seriously.

Rahul

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Sep 28, 2009, 1:03:27 PM9/28/09
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Sidney Lambe <sidne...@nospam.invalid> wrote in
news:slrnhbk86v.pn...@evergreen.net:

> If you don't like my scripts, Chris, feel free
> to print them out on stiff cardboard, roll them
> into a cylinder, and insert them in your fat ass.
>

I've always wondered about printing stuff on stiff cardboard. Are there
printers around that will do that? Or do people print to a medium and then
transfer a latent image?

--
Rahul

Michael Black

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Sep 28, 2009, 3:04:03 PM9/28/09
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There was a time, decades ago, when I wanted to have the commands for
various bits of software at hand. All I did was print to paper, then
glue the paper to a piece of cardboard. I guess I used a gluestick,
and was sure to run it carefully around the edges of the paper so it
wouldn't come undone.

I also had an ASCII chart like that, and one magazine printed the needed
values for branching with 8bit CPUs (which I admit anyone could have
calculated) and I printed that out and glued it to a piece of cardboard.
That would have been about 30 years ago, when I was using a KIM-1.

Michael

Rahul

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Sep 28, 2009, 4:33:52 PM9/28/09
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Michael Black <et...@ncf.ca> wrote in
news:Pine.LNX.4.64.09...@darkstar.example.net:

> I also had an ASCII chart like that, and one magazine printed the
> needed values for branching with 8bit CPUs (which I admit anyone could
> have calculated) and I printed that out and glued it to a piece of
> cardboard. That would have been about 30 years ago, when I was using a
> KIM-1.
>
>

Thanks! I was just curious of the printing options. Not that I am
interested in any of the other "rolling" and "stuffing" operations that
Sidney, the OP, was interested in.

--
Rahul

Michael Black

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Sep 28, 2009, 5:13:13 PM9/28/09
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On Mon, 28 Sep 2009, Rahul wrote:

I suspect if you found thinner cardboard, you could print right to it.

I bought some business card stock a few years ago, and it went through
my HP 4P laserjet with no problem. If you could live with cardboard of
that smaller thickness, and find it somewhere, it would work. It would

Michael

TJ

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Sep 28, 2009, 8:43:59 PM9/28/09
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My HP Officejet 6110 prints on "60 lb." card stock with no problem. I
haven't tried anything stiffer.

terryc

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Sep 29, 2009, 1:29:47 AM9/29/09
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Think about it.
Cardboard boxes?
Yes, there are printers that can do this.
As to round rolls? I'm sure someone could build you a printer if you need
it.

terryc

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Sep 29, 2009, 1:31:41 AM9/29/09
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On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:13:13 -0400, Michael Black wrote:

> I suspect if you found thinner cardboard, you could print right to it.

It is amazing what a printer with a straight paper path can print to. The
hard part is geting the rollers to grip and not slip.

Rahul

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Sep 29, 2009, 3:25:53 AM9/29/09
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terryc <newsnine...@woa.com.au> wrote in
news:h9s60b$4sb$1...@news.eternal-september.org:

> As to round rolls? I'm sure someone could build you a printer if you
> need it.
>

I'll leave the rolling and stuffing to Sidney for now. :)

--
Rahul

Fred Finger

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Sep 29, 2009, 7:39:47 AM9/29/09
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Sidney Lambe <sidne...@nospam.invalid> writes:

>None of them know anything about shell scripting.

Too bad you didn't read the posts then. They described a replacement for your
script that only takes one line, and is much easier and faster to use.

Maxwell Lol

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Sep 29, 2009, 7:41:42 AM9/29/09
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Rahul <nos...@nospam.invalid> writes:

> I've always wondered about printing stuff on stiff cardboard. Are there
> printers around that will do that? Or do people print to a medium and then
> transfer a latent image?


Some printers have a straight-through pass for paper. Others will
print on "card stock" - which isn't quite cardboard, but is nicer than
paper.

Jerry Peters

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Sep 29, 2009, 4:35:01 PM9/29/09
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My Brother HL-1440 can take card stock through the front feed
mechanism which doesn't require it to make a tight bend like the
normal paper tray feed path does.

Jerry

Michael Black

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Sep 29, 2009, 9:32:21 PM9/29/09
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That's likely the key factor. My initial worry about too thick cardboard
was that it would come out curled, because of the rollers, I didn't
initially give thought to cardboard jamming the printer.

Michael

Matt Giwer

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Oct 25, 2009, 11:34:28 PM10/25/09
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On Thu, 25 Sep 2009, Sidney Lambe wrote:

> The purpose of _my_ script _is_ to replace whatever Windows-clone
> interface some corporate-sponsored technocrat has manipulated you into
> becoming dependent on.

Got a serious question for you.

When is this sinister corporation going to strike?

Is it named Weyland-Yutani? Yoyodyne? Newscorp?

Inquiring victims want to know.

--
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-- The Ferric Webcaesar
http://www.giwersworld.org a1
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TJ

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Oct 27, 2009, 7:12:54 PM10/27/09
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Wanna-Be Sys Admin wrote:

> Matt Giwer wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 25 Sep 2009, Sidney Lambe wrote:
>>
>>> The purpose of _my_ script _is_ to replace whatever Windows-clone
>>> interface some corporate-sponsored technocrat has manipulated you
>>> into becoming dependent on.
>> Got a serious question for you.
>>
>> When is this sinister corporation going to strike?
>>
>> Is it named Weyland-Yutani? Yoyodyne? Newscorp?
>>
>> Inquiring victims want to know.
>>
>
> Please... don't. Let him lie in quietness.

Isn't that "lay" in quietness? No, wait - it depends on the meaning you
intended - either could fit.

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Wanna-Be Sys Admin

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Oct 28, 2009, 6:11:14 PM10/28/09
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TJ wrote:

> Wanna-Be Sys Admin wrote:
>> Matt Giwer wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 25 Sep 2009, Sidney Lambe wrote:
>>>
>>>> The purpose of _my_ script _is_ to replace whatever Windows-clone
>>>> interface some corporate-sponsored technocrat has manipulated you
>>>> into becoming dependent on.
>>> Got a serious question for you.
>>>
>>> When is this sinister corporation going to strike?
>>>
>>> Is it named Weyland-Yutani? Yoyodyne? Newscorp?
>>>
>>> Inquiring victims want to know.
>>>
>>
>> Please... don't. Let him lie in quietness.
>
> Isn't that "lay" in quietness? No, wait - it depends on the meaning
> you intended - either could fit.
>
> TJ

I actually thought about that, I wasn't sure which would be the more
grammatically correct, but then I thought "lie" (both his insane
fabrications and the sitting idle/silent) would better suit the meaning
in Sid's case.

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