Scanning windows from linux
karthikbalaguru
Is there a virus scanner that can scan the windows
from linux environment ?
Hope the virus scanners and security related tools
are available for free.
Thx in advans,
Karthik Balaguru
philo
Nico Kadel-Garcia
ClamAV is a very useful tool, but it is *not* as powerful nor as up-to-
date as a full-blown commercial virus scanner. Its big usefulness is
that it can operate from a much safer, unlikely-to-already-be-infected
environment, and its very useful to run as an analysis tool for saved
Windows files on a filesaver. It also needs frequent updating
(undstandably!)
G
@d4g2000pra.googlegroups.com>, karthikb...@gmail.com says...
Avira and Kaspersky both have free options available at their websites.
You just download the program and run it. It will automatically burn a
Linux distro with AV scanner to a CD. Just reboot from the CD any you're
in the new system.
karthikbalaguru
Thx for your response.
clamnav looks interesting.
I checked out clamnav. It has
on-access scanning feature.
But, does it have the feature of
scanning a Windows Machine
from a Linux Machine in Network ?
karthikbalaguru
> In article <c6af182c-2b00-4f9a-bcf9-fc3509251558
>
>
>
> > Hi,
> > Is there a virus scanner that can scan the windows
> > from linux environment ?
>
> > Hope the virus scanners and security related tools
> > are available for free.
>
> > Thx in advans,
> > Karthik Balaguru
>
> Avira and Kaspersky both have free options available at their websites.
> You just download the program and run it. It will automatically burn a
> Linux distro with AV scanner to a CD. Just reboot from the CD any you're
> in the new system.
First of all, Thx for your response.
I analyzed both the tools.
I checked Avira Anti-virus (Free version). It seems to be
based on DazukoFS and has on-access & on-demand
scanning support. But, i am unable find an option to scan
a Windows Machine from Linux Machine in the same Network.
So,
I checked the Kaspersky Anti-virus (Free version) also.
It has an option of remote administration of Kas-persky
Anti-Virus.For remotely using Kaspersky Administration
Kit, the Network Agent has to be installed on the
system that has to be remotely monitored.
But, is there a method of avoiding the Network agent
in the remote machine/client and scanning from this
Administrator machine itself ?
I find that,
Kaspersky Administration Kit enables the complete
remote administration of Kaspersky Anti-Virus on individual
client computers, including: starting and pausing scans,
general configuration such as enabling and disabling
protection, and configuring settings for report creation.
It seems that only linux clients can be monitored
from windows machine. But, does it support the scanning
of a Windows Machine from Linux Machine using the
method of Remote monitoring ?
Any ideas ?
Jacob
"karthikbalaguru" <karthikb...@gmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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On Dec 26, 1:41 am, G <geoffstempbox-use...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <c6af182c-2b00-4f9a-bcf9-fc3509251558
> @d4g2000pra.googlegroups.com>, karthikbalagur...@gmail.com says...
>
It seems that only linux clients can be monitored
from windows machine. But, does it support the scanning
of a Windows Machine from Linux Machine using the
method of Remote monitoring ?
Any ideas ?
Hello, how about mounting your Windows partition in your Linux tree? (smb or
nfs)
Greetings
Jacob
seeds
On Dec 26, 5:42 am, "Jacob" <spamt...@ewetel.net> wrote:
> "karthikbalaguru" <karthikbalagur...@gmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitragnews:d8c20d66-1f1f-48af...@r33g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
G
@r33g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, karthikb...@gmail.com says...
I'm sorry that I wasn't more clear in what I suggested. I was talking
about these two tools that are available:
http://majorgeeks.com/Avira_AntiVir_Rescue_System_d6005.html
http://majorgeeks.com/Kaspersky_Free_Cleaner_d4515.html
In order to use them, you don't actually need anything other than the
Windows system. When you download and run the .exe file on windows, it
will burn what is essentially a "LiveCD" that is a minimal Linux distro
that was specifically designed to deal with infections on a Windows
machine. You don't even need a second computer. Just boot from the
LiveCD on the machine you want to check, and run the scanner.
I don't know if that's exactly what you're looking for, but it's the
simplest way (in my opinion) to scan a machine when you have the
physical machine with you. I've used each one several times, and they do
a very nice job. Both companies typically update it several times a day,
so the definition files will always be current.
Wanna-Be Sys Admin
Sure, if you can mount the partition/drive or whatever, have it scan the
file system, or use it as a system for incoming data that's transfered
to the system via email, FTP, etc.
--
Not really a wanna-be, but I don't know everything.
karthikbalaguru
> In article <d8c20d66-1f1f-48af-add3-a490c8df2248
> @r33g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, karthikbalagur...@gmail.com says...
The method of creation of a minimal Linux distro(LiveCD)
on windows for dealing with the infections on windows
sounds fantastic ! Thats cool !
Interesting method for scanning viruses :-)
> I don't know if that's exactly what you're looking for, but it's the
> simplest way (in my opinion) to scan a machine when you have the
> physical machine with you.
I am looking for a Linux-based application that could scan
computers by accessing them via network. (Especially the
systems(windows based systems) that cannot be booted).
But, the below link seems to suggests a linux-based application
that allows accessing computers that cannot be booted anymore.
http://majorgeeks.com/Avira_AntiVir_Rescue_System_d6005.html
Though it is not via network, I think, this will serve the purpose for
the time being. Lemme know incase if there is a tool(Freeware) that
has a feature of performing it via network.
Your response has been very helpful !!
>I've used each one several times, and they do
> a very nice job. Both companies typically update it several times a day,
> so the definition files will always be current.
>
Interesting ! I will check this out.
Karthik Balaguru
G
@o9g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, karthikb...@gmail.com says...
>
> I am looking for a Linux-based application that could scan
> computers by accessing them via network. (Especially the
> systems(windows based systems) that cannot be booted).
>
networked machines using something like ClamAV, but I don't personally
know how to do it.
> But, the below link seems to suggests a linux-based application
> that allows accessing computers that cannot be booted anymore.
> http://majorgeeks.com/Avira_AntiVir_Rescue_System_d6005.html
> Though it is not via network, I think, this will serve the purpose for
> the time being. Lemme know incase if there is a tool(Freeware) that
> has a feature of performing it via network.
>
That tool is probably your best choice, as long as the BIOS is set to
allow you to boot from the CD. If the machine won't boot into Windows,
then it isn't going to show up on your network anyway. The only other
way I know to check the drive is by physically removing it and hooking
it up to another machine.
You might want to check the HD as well if it doesn't boot at all. You
could run it through something like Spinrite (not free) to check the
health of the physical drive.
Good luck.
Aragorn
identifying as karthikbalaguru wrote...
> I am looking for a Linux-based application that could scan
> computers by accessing them via network. (Especially the
> systems(windows based systems) that cannot be booted).
How on earth are you going to access a computer _which_ _cannot_ _be_
_booted_ over the network? A network connection which shares
filesystems over the network for scanning requires at least a minimal
running operating system on the target machine.
> But, the below link seems to suggests a linux-based application
> that allows accessing computers that cannot be booted anymore.
> http://majorgeeks.com/Avira_AntiVir_Rescue_System_d6005.html
> Though it is not via network, I think, this will serve the purpose for
> the time being. Lemme know incase if there is a tool(Freeware) that
> has a feature of performing it via network.
The first requirement is that you can get the infected computer to boot.
That means that if the machine is unbootable of itself due to a totally
corrupted bootsector, master boot record or Windows installation, you
will need to boot the machine off of a rescue system on a CD or DVD.
Getting the infected machine to boot from a rescue CD (or DVD) means
that you are physically in the vicinity of the infected computer and
sitting at its local console, so what would be the point in then
scanning it from somewhere else on the network? The machine would only
be temporarily running off of a CD-based system anyway and would either
way need to be rebooted after the scan/repair is complete, so you might
as well stay sitting there at the machine's local console until after
the clean-up and repair have been completed and the machine is ready
for reboot into its native operating system.
If on the other hand you are talking about scanning Windows partitions
on *running* Windows machines over the network as some sort of
preemptive scan, then you'd need to export *all* of their files over
the network, including the Windows "C:" drive and all system files
thereon, which is not exactly the safest way of setting up a network
share, and which will in addition not scan the *RAM* of the Windows
computers, where a virus might be hiding.
The only possible way of performing a virus scan without any viruses
hiding in the Windows machine's RAM is to boot the Windows machine from
such a rescue CD, which - as explained higher up - and this requires
local access to the machine in question.
--
*Aragorn*
(registered GNU/Linux user #223157)
karthikbalaguru
> On Sunday 27 December 2009 14:34 in comp.os.linux.setup, somebody
>
> identifying as karthikbalaguru wrote...
> > I am looking for a Linux-based application that could scan
> > computers by accessing them via network. (Especially the
> > systems(windows based systems) that cannot be booted).
>
> How on earth are you going to access a computer _which_ _cannot_ _be_
> _booted_ over the network? A network connection which shares
> filesystems over the network for scanning requires at least a minimal
> running operating system on the target machine.
>
Yes, it is a valid question. I am exploring various ways.
The problem is, one of the infected windows machine's CD/DVD
drive does not work . So, i was exploring alternate ways like
using rescue CD remotely/remote techniques from a remote machine
that has a CD/DVD drive (though i was aware of the chances
of its availability was very less).
Any ideas ?
For example, in linux there is a 'kickstart installation' technique
that will enable automated installation of Red Hat Linux on
indivdual computers based on the answers in the file in the
server. Similarly, is it not possible to boot windows remotely
so that rescue CD can be used on similar lines to recover it ?
One thought is to dis-connect the non-working CD/DVD drive
and connect a working CD/DVD drive temporarily to fix this
issue. But, that is ruled out due to various reasons.
Is there no other way except for replacing the CD/DVD
drive in that windows machine and trying with the rescue CD ?
No way to avoid the replacement of CD/DVD drive ?
True !
>
> The only possible way of performing a virus scan without any viruses
> hiding in the Windows machine's RAM is to boot the Windows machine from
> such a rescue CD, which - as explained higher up - and this requires
> local access to the machine in question.
>
Okay.
Aragorn
identifying as karthikbalaguru wrote...
> On Dec 27, 11:59 pm, Aragorn <arag...@chatfactory.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Sunday 27 December 2009 14:34 in comp.os.linux.setup, somebody
>> identifying as karthikbalaguru wrote...
>> > I am looking for a Linux-based application that could scan
>> > computers by accessing them via network. (Especially the
>> > systems(windows based systems) that cannot be booted).
>>
>> How on earth are you going to access a computer _which_ _cannot_ _be_
>> _booted_ over the network? A network connection which shares
>> filesystems over the network for scanning requires at least a minimal
>> running operating system on the target machine.
>
> Yes, it is a valid question. I am exploring various ways.
>
> The problem is, one of the infected windows machine's CD/DVD
> drive does not work . So, i was exploring alternate ways like
> using rescue CD remotely/remote techniques from a remote machine
> that has a CD/DVD drive (though i was aware of the chances
> of its availability was very less).
> Any ideas ?
> For example, in linux there is a 'kickstart installation' technique
> that will enable automated installation of Red Hat Linux on
> indivdual computers based on the answers in the file in the
> server. Similarly, is it not possible to boot windows remotely
> so that rescue CD can be used on similar lines to recover it ?
I suppose you could try a PXE boot, but the BIOS has to support it, and
Windows has to support it as well. On the latter, I have no
knowledge - I don't do Windows, sorry - so you would have to ask about
that in a Windows group, or via the Microsoft Knowledge Base.
> One thought is to dis-connect the non-working CD/DVD drive
> and connect a working CD/DVD drive temporarily to fix this
> issue. But, that is ruled out due to various reasons.
At the moment it seems like you have no alternative.
> Is there no other way except for replacing the CD/DVD
> drive in that windows machine and trying with the rescue CD ?
> No way to avoid the replacement of CD/DVD drive ?
Not that I can think of, unless you've got some external USB storage
device that the system can boot from - again, this is BIOS-dependent.
If USB boot is supported on the target machine, then there are various
tools in various distributions for making a bootable USB stick from
which you could then scan the system, but none of those USB-based
distributions would then be designated virus scanners, so you would
probably have to add the antivirus software to the USB stick manually.
It can be done, but it's quite a bit of work.
On the other hand, you should be able to pick up a cheap second-hand
internal CD or DVD drive somewhere and mount it in the machine with the
broken CD player.
karthikbalaguru
This sounds great . This will surely be helpful :-) :-)
I think, this approach can be tried out. I need to check for the USB-
based
Free distributions and need to check for the method to add the Free
antivirus software to the USB stick. Can you lemme know the
steps/links that talk in detail about this ?
> On the other hand, you should be able to pick up a cheap second-hand
> internal CD or DVD drive somewhere and mount it in the machine with the
> broken CD player.
>
Yeah, this is another good idea, but in the current scenario, this is
ruled
out due to various reasons.
Thx in advans,
Karthik Balaguru
Aragorn
identifying as karthikbalaguru wrote...
> On Dec 28, 4:00 am, Aragorn <arag...@chatfactory.invalid> wrote:
>
>> If USB boot is supported on the target machine, then there are
>> various tools in various distributions for making a bootable USB
>> stick from which you could then scan the system, but none of those
>> USB-based distributions would then be designated virus scanners, so
>> you would probably have to add the antivirus software to the USB
>> stick manually. It can be done, but it's quite a bit of work.
>>
>
> This sounds great . This will surely be helpful :-) :-)
> I think, this approach can be tried out. I need to check for the USB-
> based Free distributions and need to check for the method to add the
> Free antivirus software to the USB stick.
Mandriva is a distribution which is available on a USB stick, and there
are some others as well. As I gather, the cost is not too high, but
alternatively, you can do it yourself using a freely downloadable
distribution and a USB memory stick you already own. There are HowTos
about it on the web. ;-)
> Can you lemme know the steps/links that talk in detail about this ?
Google is your friend. ;-)
>> On the other hand, you should be able to pick up a cheap second-hand
>> internal CD or DVD drive somewhere and mount it in the machine with
>> the broken CD player.
>>
> Yeah, this is another good idea, but in the current scenario, this is
> ruled out due to various reasons.
I don't see why it would be a problem, if you have a non-booting
machine, and thus a machine that is currently useless. Surely adding
an old CD player to it - you might even find one for free - to remedy
the problem would not be a big issue?
karthikbalaguru
> On Monday 28 December 2009 05:20 in comp.os.linux.setup, somebody
>
> identifying as karthikbalaguru wrote...
> > On Dec 28, 4:00 am, Aragorn <arag...@chatfactory.invalid> wrote:
>
> >> If USB boot is supported on the target machine, then there are
> >> various tools in various distributions for making a bootable USB
> >> stick from which you could then scan the system, but none of those
> >> USB-based distributions would then be designated virus scanners, so
> >> you would probably have to add the antivirus software to the USB
> >> stick manually. It can be done, but it's quite a bit of work.
>
> > This sounds great . This will surely be helpful :-) :-)
> > I think, this approach can be tried out. I need to check for the USB-
> > based Free distributions and need to check for the method to add the
> > Free antivirus software to the USB stick.
>
> Mandriva is a distribution which is available on a USB stick, and there
> are some others as well.
I checked Mandriva website, yeah they
are providing on USB stick based linux, and since
it is a full fledged linux, i think the virus scanners
might be supported without much hassles !
But it is not free :-(
Lemme know if there is any other USB Stick
based linux flavour that is available for Free ?
Also, lemme know if there is a USB stick
based linux flavour that would support virus
scanners ?
No clear info from internet so far.
> As I gather, the cost is not too high, but
> alternatively, you can do it yourself using a freely downloadable
> distribution and a USB memory stick you already own. There are HowTos
> about it on the web. ;-)
>
Thinking on similar lines, i got an idea to try a
Floppy based linux instead of USB.
I know of MiniRTL(based on busybox) that did
not have dependency on HDD except for the RAM
(Even the RAM requirement is very minimal).
Other than that, there are other flavours like
'Tomsrtbt', Asmutils based 'a-Linux' and various
other Busybox based flavours. But,they are all
Floppy based.
But, floppy drive is not available in that machine :-(
Does tomsrtbt support USB stick based boot up ?
I may check with the tomsrtbt user list regd this.
Incase you have any information w.r.t tomsrtbt
you can lemme know.
Another query that pops in my mind is
that these minimal versions/flavours of linux
might not have lot of features. They might be greatly
stripped and hence not sure if they would be able to
provide all required support for virus scanner or similar
tools !!
Any thoughts on this ?
Incase these minimal versions are not suitable
for existing along with virus scanning utility in
the USB stick, do lemme know.
> > Can you lemme know the steptrs/links that talk in detail about this ?
>
> Google is your friend. ;-)
>
Yeah, need to search/check the HOWTos in the
internet to setup my own USB Stick based Linux
so that it is Free . After that, the method to have the
virus scanner on it should be tried out. I think
this should be just straight forward just like having
any other application on embedded linux.
> >> On the other hand, you should be able to pick up a cheap second-hand
> >> internal CD or DVD drive somewhere and mount it in the machine with
> >> the broken CD player.
>
> > Yeah, this is another good idea, but in the current scenario, this is
> > ruled out due to various reasons.
>
PS - Have looped in comp.os.linux.embedded
to get their thoughts also as it is going towards
that direction also interms of footprints,utilities
in FD based linux, USB stick based linux ,
Tiny linux flavours having support for virus scanner
etc.
Mark Hobley
> Lemme know if there is any other USB Stick
> based linux flavour that is available for Free ?
Ubuntu provides a utility to create a bootable USB stick.
>
> Also, lemme know if there is a USB stick
> based linux flavour that would support virus
> scanners ?
Ubuntu provides clamav.
--
Mark Hobley
Linux User: #370818 http://markhobley.yi.org/
karthikbalaguru
wrote:
> On Dec 28, 9:35 am, Aragorn <arag...@chatfactory.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Monday 28 December 2009 05:20 in comp.os.linux.setup, somebody
>
> > identifying as karthikbalaguru wrote...
> > > On Dec 28, 4:00 am, Aragorn <arag...@chatfactory.invalid> wrote:
>
> > >> If USB boot is supported on the target machine, then there are
> > >> various tools in various distributions for making a bootable USB
> > >> stick from which you could then scan the system, but none of those
> > >> USB-based distributions would then be designated virus scanners, so
> > >> you would probably have to add the antivirus software to the USB
> > >> stick manually. It can be done, but it's quite a bit of work.
>
> > > This sounds great . This will surely be helpful :-) :-)
> > > I think, this approach can be tried out. I need to check for the USB-
> > > based Free distributions and need to check for the method to add the
> > > Free antivirus software to the USB stick.
>
> > Mandriva is a distribution which is available on a USB stick, and there
> > are some others as well.
>
> I checked Mandriva website, yeah they
> are providing on USB stick based linux, and since
> it is a full fledged linux, i think the virus scanners
> might be supported without much hassles !
> But it is not free :-(
>
> Lemme know if there is any other USB Stick
> based linux flavour that is available for Free ?
>
http://www.linux.com/distrocentral/distronews/8221-comparing-linux-usb-flash-disk-distros
This seems to have some good pointers to
start with.
DSL and Puppylinux seem to be very good.
Nothing like setting up Ubuntu as it is a full
blown linux.
Pendrive linux seems to have started from
Mandriva and unlike Mandriva Linux, i think
this is also Free.
> Also, lemme know if there is a USB stick
> based linux flavour that would support virus
> scanners ?
>
> No clear info from internet so far.
>
A)
Ubuntu based USB has Synaptic Packet
Manager system that could be used to install,
remove, configure, or upgrade software packages,
browse, sort and search the list of available
software packages, manage repositories, or
upgrade the whole system.
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
I think, this can be used to get the virus
scanner onto the USB stick once the Ubuntu
is up from the USB stick. Need to check.
But,
No clear method is available on the method of
addition of new software. Any ideas ?
B)
In Puppy linux, i found specific statements
that convey that one can use antivirus that is
built-in or can be installed in Puppy.
http://puppylinux.org/main/index.php?file=Overview%20and%20Getting%20Started.htm
But, did not get a clear link on the method
of addition of new application to it. Any ideas ?
C)
Pendrivelinux also seems to be full
blown linux, and the virus scanner can
be installed just as this application is installed
in the below link -
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8465858
Lemme know if this Pendrivelinux method fine
as conveyed in above link ?
Hans-Peter Diettrich
>> Mandriva is a distribution which is available on a USB stick, and there
>> are some others as well.
>
> I checked Mandriva website, yeah they
> are providing on USB stick based linux, and since
> it is a full fledged linux, i think the virus scanners
> might be supported without much hassles !
> But it is not free :-(
I'm also interested in a free (maybe trial) version of a Linux on an USB
stick. Some time ago I tried to install such a system myself (BartPE?),
but couldn't make it work with my machines. Now I don't know whether
it's a matter of the software or of my BIOSes, why I couldn't boot from
the stick :-(
>> As I gather, the cost is not too high, but
>> alternatively, you can do it yourself using a freely downloadable
>> distribution and a USB memory stick you already own. There are HowTos
>> about it on the web. ;-)
Can you give a concrete link, or an search key?
DoDi
G
dda474...@q2g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, karthikb...@gmail.com
says...
I've been partial to Fedora for a long time. So here's one for you to
check out.
https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_Live_USB
I've never used, but have heard many good impressions of DSL.
http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/
And here's a little more info.
Aragorn
identifying as karthikbalaguru wrote...
> On Dec 28, 9:35 am, Aragorn <arag...@chatfactory.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Monday 28 December 2009 05:20 in comp.os.linux.setup, somebody
>> identifying as karthikbalaguru wrote...
>>
>> > On Dec 28, 4:00 am, Aragorn <arag...@chatfactory.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> >> If USB boot is supported on the target machine, then there are
>> >> various tools in various distributions for making a bootable USB
>> >> stick from which you could then scan the system, but none of those
>> >> USB-based distributions would then be designated virus scanners,
>> >> so you would probably have to add the antivirus software to the
>> >> USB stick manually. It can be done, but it's quite a bit of work.
>>
>> > This sounds great . This will surely be helpful :-) :-)
>> > I think, this approach can be tried out. I need to check for the
>> > USB- based Free distributions and need to check for the method to
>> > add the Free antivirus software to the USB stick.
>>
>> Mandriva is a distribution which is available on a USB stick, and
>> there are some others as well.
>
> I checked Mandriva website, yeah they
> are providing on USB stick based linux, and since
> it is a full fledged linux, i think the virus scanners
> might be supported without much hassles !
> But it is not free :-(
Of course not - last thing I heard nobody was giving away USB sticks for
free yet. ;-)
> Lemme know if there is any other USB Stick
> based linux flavour that is available for Free ?
You are not going to find one, since USB sticks cost money. Most
distributions do however have the necessary tools for creating a
USB-stick-based GNU/Linux distribution, and some may even have
preconfigured and automated utilities to do such a thing for you.
> Also, lemme know if there is a USB stick
> based linux flavour that would support virus
> scanners ?
Google is your friend.
> No clear info from internet so far.
Then you didn't look well enough. ;-)
>> As I gather, the cost is not too high, but
>> alternatively, you can do it yourself using a freely downloadable
>> distribution and a USB memory stick you already own. There are
>> HowTos about it on the web. ;-)
>>
>
> Thinking on similar lines, i got an idea to try a
> Floppy based linux instead of USB.
Well, good luck with that then. The 2.6 kernel doesn't even fit on a
floppy anymore, so you'd be stuck with an old kernel, which may not
support all of your hardware. For instance, I don't even know whether
2.4 supports SATA hard disks.
> I know of MiniRTL(based on busybox) that did
> not have dependency on HDD except for the RAM
> (Even the RAM requirement is very minimal).
> Other than that, there are other flavours like
> 'Tomsrtbt', Asmutils based 'a-Linux' and various
> other Busybox based flavours. But,they are all
> Floppy based.
If they are floppy-based, then they will certainly not hold any decent
antivirus software, given the size of such software suits.
> But, floppy drive is not available in that machine :-(
Then why even consider it? ;-)
> Does tomsrtbt support USB stick based boot up ?
That is not what it was designed for, but in theory, you should be able
to make a bootable USB stick with the contents of that CD, yes. On the
other hand, you'd be far better off with a more complete distribution,
e.g. Knoppix.
> I may check with the tomsrtbt user list regd this.
> Incase you have any information w.r.t tomsrtbt
> you can lemme know.
I can't really help you with that. I've only used it once or twice, in
order to detect hardware errors on one of my machines.
> Another query that pops in my mind is
> that these minimal versions/flavours of linux
> might not have lot of features. They might be greatly
> stripped and hence not sure if they would be able to
> provide all required support for virus scanner or similar
> tools !!
> Any thoughts on this ?
Yes, that is what I wrote higher up already. You'd be far better off
with a "real" distro. There are several live-CD based distros, and
other distros allow you to make a live-CD with a few simple
mouseclicks, or a bootable USB stick. Look here and see whether you
can find something to your liking:
> Incase these minimal versions are not suitable
> for existing along with virus scanning utility in
> the USB stick, do lemme know.
They will probably not have such scanners "on board", so you'd have to
add them yourself. The simpler the base you start from, the more work
you'll have at producing a bootable USB stick with a working distro
*and* a virus scanner.
> PS - Have looped in comp.os.linux.embedded
> to get their thoughts also as it is going towards
> that direction also interms of footprints,utilities
> in FD based linux, USB stick based linux ,
> Tiny linux flavours having support for virus scanner
> etc.
USB sticks and floppy disks are not "embedded Linux". Embedded
(GNU/)Linux is what you find in routers, cellphones and satnav systems,
i.e. the "system on a chip" approach. Such systems usually don't come
with antivirus software, and most of the time those devices are
configured to not work as if they are complete UNIX systems.
For instance, a Linksys WRT router has a Linux-based system in firmware,
but other than approaching it via a webbrowser to make a few changes to
the settings, you can't do much with it, since the device was never
designed for any other purposes than being a router. Alternative
firmware downloads do exist, but they really *are* alternative, i.e.
you'd have to install it yourself. And for your intended purposes, the
issue is moot.
karthikbalaguru
Hobley) wrote:
> karthikbalaguru <karthikbalagur...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Lemme know if there is any other USB Stick
> > based linux flavour that is available for Free ?
>
> Ubuntu provides a utility to create a bootable USB stick.
>
>
>
> > Also, lemme know if there is a USB stick
> > based linux flavour that would support virus
> > scanners ?
>
> Ubuntu provides clamav.
>
Great ! This is interesting.
I searched for setting up ubuntu in USB stick
and the below link -
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-x-ubuntu-610/
Another link that claims the installation of ubuntu
in USB stick from Live CD is below -
http://www.techbuzz.in/installation-of-ubuntu-in-a-usbflash-drive-from-the-live-cd.php
Does clamav come by default after following
the procedures mentioned in the below link ?
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-x-ubuntu-610/
Or, should we need to add clamav by setting
up the network/internet once the ubuntu is up from the
USB stick ?
karthikbalaguru
I got few links, but not exact info.
I think the below link is one of the good
input to start for USB stick based linux flavour.
http://www.linux.com/distrocentral/distronews/8221-comparing-linux-usb-flash-disk-distros
But, it does not clearly convey the method of
addition of new softwares/applications to USB
stick based linux.
I assume that i need to set up the
network/internet and download the application/
software of interest(anti-virus, etc ) once the
linux boots up from the USB stick and occupies
the RAM.
Another possible method could be to add the
software/application to a particular folder in USB
Stick so that it gets added into a directory from
where it could be executed to get installed once the
ubuntu gets booted off the USB stick and occupies
the RAM.
For setting up ubuntu in USB stick -
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-x-ubuntu-610/
Setting up ubuntu in USB stick from Live CD -
http://www.techbuzz.in/installation-of-ubuntu-in-a-usbflash-drive-from-the-live-cd.php
Incase of ubuntu,
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/
I think, after the below step, the application/software
can be copied into the USB folder itself.
' Download UBconvert.zip and extract the
files to the USB folder '
But, not sure. Any ideas ?
Any trick for adding the application/software
so that the application comes by default when it gets
booted up from the USB Stick instead of adding
it everytime ? That is , it need not be installed
once the linux gets booted up from the USB stick ?
Still searching for information w.r.t this. Lemme
know if you got some information regarding this.
Nice link !
This link would be of great help to me. It is fantastic.
Your response has been very helpful !!
> > Incase these minimal versions are not suitable
> > for existing along with virus scanning utility in
> > the USB stick, do lemme know.
>
> They will probably not have such scanners "on board", so you'd have to
> add them yourself. The simpler the base you start from, the more work
> you'll have at producing a bootable USB stick with a working distro
> *and* a virus scanner.
>
Thx in advans,
Karthik Balaguru
karthikbalaguru
> In article <80080394-814b-40b1-9b50-
> dda474105...@q2g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, karthikbalagur...@gmail.com
>
> I've never used, but have heard many good impressions of DSL.
>
> http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/
>
> And here's a little more info.
>
>
Thanks for the links. They are really helpful.
Looks interesting. I will check these.
Karthik Balaguru
Aragorn
identifying as karthikbalaguru wrote...
> On Dec 29, 6:04 am, Aragorn <arag...@chatfactory.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Monday 28 December 2009 19:09 in comp.os.linux.setup, somebody
>> identifying as karthikbalaguru wrote...
>>
> I assume that i need to set up the
> network/internet and download the application/
> software of interest(anti-virus, etc ) once the
> linux boots up from the USB stick and occupies
> the RAM.
That is correct.
> Another possible method could be to add the
> software/application to a particular folder in USB
> Stick so that it gets added into a directory from
> where it could be executed to get installed once the
> ubuntu gets booted off the USB stick and occupies
> the RAM.
There are several methods for doing this, but if you're going to save it
on a separate partition on the USB stick - as opposed to making it part
of the boot image - then I recommend formatting that partition with a
UNIX-style filesystem, i.e. ext2/3, reiserfs, XFS or JFS, but not with
FAT32, as that does not honor the UNIX permissions and file ownerships.
> Any trick for adding the application/software
> so that the application comes by default when it gets
> booted up from the USB Stick instead of adding
> it everytime ? That is , it need not be installed
> once the linux gets booted up from the USB stick ?
Either use an ext2/3 or similar filesystem on the USB stick and save it
to that, or add it to the boot image from which the GNU/Linux system
boots up from the stick. If push comes to shove, you can temporarily
save the downloaded files to a /tmpfs/ - i.e. a temporary filesystem in
RAM while you are fiddling with the USB stick.
>> http://www.distrowatch.com
>
> Nice link !
> This link would be of great help to me. It is fantastic.
> Your response has been very helpful !!
That link is known to just about every GNU/Linux user. ;-) As you
didn't seem to know about it yet until I mentioned it here, you're
probably not a real GNU/Linux user... :p
Mark Hobley
> Or, should we need to add clamav by setting
> up the network/internet once the ubuntu is up from the
> USB stick ?
Right, you need to add clamav, after you have built the stick, but this is
very straightforward. The penstick will be updated to reflect changes as
packages are added or removed. (It works justs like a regular installation).
I've got some notes on the creation of the bootable pendrive somewhere. I will
try and dig them out for you.
Mark.
goarilla
huh why does windows need to support it ? you just
boot your favorite live cd with PXE boot (BIOS feature), mount the
filesystems and scan with whatever you want:
clamav, ...
personally i also use a few vm's with avast home free, mcafee and
other virus scanners and get it to scan with virtualbox shared folders
feature.
you need the cpu cycles tho for that
but a lot of my time is (invested|lost) in taking an infected
machine's hd and scanning it on my system like that (i dont use
windows either).
then i take the suspected files and run them through virustotal
if possible (obviously infected pagefiles or hiberfiles are
just gonna get deleted).
Bob Martin
>>> http://www.distrowatch.com
>>
>> Nice link !
>> This link would be of great help to me. It is fantastic.
>> Your response has been very helpful !!
>
>That link is known to just about every GNU/Linux user. ;-) As you
>didn't seem to know about it yet until I mentioned it here, you're
>probably not a real GNU/Linux user... :p
You didn't detect a hint of sarcasm?
Aragorn
identifying as Bob Martin wrote...
Given the OP's ostensible newbieness, I did not expect any sarcasm from
him with regard to that link, no, but if such sarcasm was indeed
present in his reply - of which I am still not convinced - then to my
defense, I am a high-functioning autistic person, and I have great
difficulty correctly assessing any subtle innuendo, and even more so in
written communication than in actual verbal communication, which in
itself also already poses difficulty for me with regard to "reading in
between the lines".