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aicne...@gmail.com

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May 7, 2009, 7:13:49 AM5/7/09
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I am building a P4 machine for my dear old mom.

Someone gave me a motherboard, and I simply couldn't locate any info
for it.

Here are the specs for the motherboard:

478 socket

red color

4 PCI slots

1 AGP 8X slot

2 banks for DIMM

2 banks for DDR

The chipsets are VIA VT8233 and PC400.

It also has

2 USB ports

1 sound port (with 3 holes, red, blue and green)

1 parallel port

2 serial ports

The BIOS is AMI.

Since there is no marking on the board identifies its maker and model,
I don't know where to obtain the required drivers for it.

Can anyone please tell me if there is a motherboard search engine
anywhere, to help me identify this motherboard?

Thank you all !

mikea

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May 7, 2009, 7:34:19 AM5/7/09
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There ought to be an FCC approval ID somewhere on it. You can search on
that in the FCC.govsite to locate the maker and board model.

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DenverD

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May 7, 2009, 8:06:39 AM5/7/09
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> Since there is no marking on the board identifies its maker and model,


did you use a magnifying glass?

> I don't know where to obtain the required drivers for it.

don't modern OS install routines probe the board and self select and
provide needed drivers?

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Anton Ertl

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May 7, 2009, 8:10:13 AM5/7/09
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aicne...@gmail.com writes:
>Can anyone please tell me if there is a motherboard search engine
>anywhere, to help me identify this motherboard?

Try dmidecode.

Followups set to comp.os.linux.hardware.

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May 7, 2009, 8:46:31 AM5/7/09
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CPU-Z might do it....

It's better for you to take a HD photo of your motherboard and attach a
URL link to it here.

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Bill

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May 7, 2009, 9:13:47 AM5/7/09
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In the past I have used a prog called sister sandra and Crucial's Baleric
adviser to sort this problem.


GMAN

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May 7, 2009, 9:32:51 AM5/7/09
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In article <i8BMl.28901$j7.4...@news.indigo.ie>, "Bill" <Bi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>In the past I have used a prog called sister sandra and Crucial's Baleric
>adviser to sort this problem.
>
>

Thats Sisoft Sandra.
http://www.sisoftware.net/

Chrisjoy

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May 7, 2009, 9:38:05 AM5/7/09
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On 7 Mai, 13:13, aicneviv...@gmail.com wrote:
> I am building a P4 machine for my dear old mom.
>
> Someone gave me a motherboard, and I simply couldn't locate any info
> for it.
>
> Here are the specs for the motherboard:
>
> 478 socket
>
> red color
>
> 4 PCI slots
>
> 1 AGP 8X slot
>
> 2 banks for DIMM
>
> 2 banks for DDR
>
> The chipsets are VIA VT8233 and PC400.
>
> It also has
>
> 2 USB ports
>
> 1 sound port (with 3 holes, red, blue and green)
>
> 1 parallel port
>
> 2 serial ports
>
> The BIOS is AMI.
>
> Since there is no marking on the board identifies its maker and model,
> I don't know where to obtain the required drivers for it.

It looks like something MSI would make for OEM marked. Try MSI's "live-
update" (assuming XP is installed), and you may get that onboard sound
card to work. Because, everything else's working, including high speed
USB, right?

Jon Danniken

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May 7, 2009, 9:44:14 AM5/7/09
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"Chrisjoy" > It looks like something MSI would make for OEM market.

That'd be my guess as well, without any additional information.

Jon


TVeblen

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May 7, 2009, 9:51:44 AM5/7/09
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<aicne...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:555c7bce-19d7-4b40...@d2g2000pra.googlegroups.com...

If you can fire it up with minimal parts the motherboard info should appear
on the first boot screen.
I've also had some luck googling the serial numbers on the board.


Paul

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May 7, 2009, 1:56:40 PM5/7/09
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You don't need to identify the brand. You're already doing a good job,
by identifying the chipset.

To start, you need to improve the accuracy of your
guess about the Northbridge. The VT8233 makes sense
as a Southbridge chip. My guess would be the Northbridge
is something like P4X266, as it supports DDR266 and
PC133 SDRAM memory types. There is a list of chipsets here.

http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/chipsets/desktop-chipsets.jsp

If you go to viaarena.com , you can look for "chipset or platform driver".
The Hyperion package is for newer chipsets. You'd want the
"Retro chipset VIA 4in1 drivers" (depending on whether my guess
about the Northbridge is close).

http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=2

"Retro chipset VIA 4in1 drivers"

"The driver package is recommended for use with the following chipsets:
MVP#, Apollo Pro## series, KT1##, KN1##, KM1##, KT2##, KT333, KN2##, KM2##, P4X2##, P4X3##, P4M2##"

In any case, if you can do a basic install, with a CDROM drive,
one hard drive, you can download one of the utilities the other
people have mentioned, to get more info about what is on board.

A critical component, for that to happen, is the Ethernet interface.
You didn't mention what Ethernet chip is used. Some of the
VIA chipsets, have the MAC part of the Ethernet (Media Access Controller),
inside the chipset. A PHY chip sits outside, to complete the design.
You could check the section here, and download a driver so that
you'll have networking after your basic install.

http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=2&OSID=1&CatID=1190

If the MAC/PHY solution is a complete external solution, then you should
identify the part number of that chip, so you can find a network
driver. For example, if the motherboard used a separate Intel
networking chip, you'd go to the Intel site to get a driver.

Depending on the vintage of your OS install CD, it is quite possible
it will all work when you install. (For example, when I installed
WinXP on my latest VIA chipset board, it all worked out of the box.
So I could reach the network without a problem.) If you have a
working network interface, tidying up the driver installation
should be a lot easier.

Paul

Baron

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May 7, 2009, 3:06:28 PM5/7/09
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aicne...@gmail.com wrote:

The identity is displayed on the first screen right at the bottom when
it boots.

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nobody >

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May 7, 2009, 3:28:41 PM5/7/09
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aicne...@gmail.com wrote:
> I am building a P4 machine for my dear old mom.
>
> Someone gave me a motherboard, and I simply couldn't locate any info
> for it.
>

Look for an FCC ID number on the board. If you find that, go to

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/page/fcc

and follow the instructions near the bottom of the page.
This searches the FCC database for you

andy

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May 7, 2009, 3:31:34 PM5/7/09
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Paul

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May 7, 2009, 4:25:37 PM5/7/09
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If that is the case, the manual mentioned the JP1 jumper. Don't
power up the motherboard, until the RAM type, and the setting for
JP1 have been verified.

JP1: DRAM Voltage (VCC)
This jumper enables to select voltage of DRAM.

Function Jumper Setting
2.5V (DDR) Open Pins 1-2
3.3V (SDR) Short Pins 1-2

Only one kind of RAM should be installed at any one time.
The jumper JP1 should reflect the kind of RAM used.

Paul

aicne...@gmail.com

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May 8, 2009, 9:10:52 AM5/8/09
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Thank you all for your very helpful advises.

I finally found the info and am downloading the drivers now. :)

Thank you again !!

On May 7, 1:25 pm, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
> andy wrote:
> > I'm going to say it's a PC Chips M922.
> >http://www.computery.ru/upgrade/numbers/2002/045/images/N_I_M922.jpg

> > <http://www.pcchips.com.tw/PCCWebSite/Downloads/ProductsDetail_Downloa...>


>
> If that is the case, the manual mentioned the JP1 jumper. Don't
> power up the motherboard, until the RAM type, and the setting for
> JP1 have been verified.
>
> JP1: DRAM Voltage (VCC)
> This jumper enables to select voltage of DRAM.
>
> Function       Jumper Setting
> 2.5V (DDR)     Open Pins 1-2
> 3.3V (SDR)     Short Pins 1-2
>
> Only one kind of RAM should be installed at any one time.
> The jumper JP1 should reflect the kind of RAM used.
>
>     Paul
>

Jose

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May 8, 2009, 9:30:42 AM5/8/09
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What?! No pictures?! No explanation of how you figured it out?!

McGregor

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May 8, 2009, 2:46:04 PM5/8/09
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"Jon Danniken" <jondanS...@yaSPAMhoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Chrisjoy" > It looks like something MSI would make for OEM market.
>
> That'd be my guess as well, without any additional information.
>
> Jon


There must be some data on the motherboard.
Any digits, letters would help significantly to
identify this mo/bo.

Van Chocstraw

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May 8, 2009, 4:50:01 PM5/8/09
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There are all kinds of programs that will extract motherboard info
including serial numbers and write it to a file.

notbob

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May 8, 2009, 6:49:51 PM5/8/09
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On 2009-05-08, Van Chocstraw <boobooil...@roadrunner.com> wrote:

> There are all kinds of programs that will extract motherboard info
> including serial numbers and write it to a file.

One of my favorites is lshw:

http://ezix.org/project/wiki/HardwareLiSter

It appears the Parted Magic 4.0 liveCD includes lshw. I'm sure there are
others.

nb

terryc

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May 12, 2009, 10:16:01 AM5/12/09
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On Thu, 07 May 2009 13:56:40 -0400, Paul wrote:

>>
>> Since there is no marking on the board identifies its maker and model

I've never seen a maker brand on a mobo, just a board number like G56PTV
or such crap, Uusually near
pci slot 1.

Jean-David Beyer

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May 12, 2009, 12:03:59 PM5/12/09
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My motherboard says Superμ
on it and it is made by SuperMicro.
It also says X5DP*-G2
on it and that is the board type.

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Hactar

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May 12, 2009, 11:38:10 AM5/12/09
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In article <4a0984a1$0$60649$c30e...@pit-reader.telstra.net>,

You've dealt with the wrong motherboards then. Both my A7V333 and
M2NE-SLi have "ASUS" on them.

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Paul

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May 12, 2009, 1:43:23 PM5/12/09
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Hactar wrote:
> In article <4a0984a1$0$60649$c30e...@pit-reader.telstra.net>,
> terryc <newsseven...@woa.com.au> wrote:
>> On Thu, 07 May 2009 13:56:40 -0400, Paul wrote:
>>
>>>> Since there is no marking on the board identifies its maker and model
>> I've never seen a maker brand on a mobo, just a board number like G56PTV
>> or such crap, Uusually near
>> pci slot 1.
>
> You've dealt with the wrong motherboards then. Both my A7V333 and
> M2NE-SLi have "ASUS" on them.
>

There used to be a web site called "PCChips Lottery" and it
existed because of the lack of markings on their motherboards.
So it is possible to find motherboards which are hard to identify.
I worked with someone once, who had one of those, and it was
absolutely devoid of markings.

This is an archive of the old "PCChips Lottery" site. The archived copy
may not be fully functional.

http://web.archive.org/web/20060615182530/http://www.stud.fernuni-hagen.de/q3998142/pcchips/index.html

Paul

Greegor

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May 12, 2009, 6:19:02 PM5/12/09
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Jose > What?! No pictures?! No explanation of how you figured it
out?!

Yeah, What did you find and how?
You owe the groups that.

cc emailed

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