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Alan Cox  
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 More options Sep 24 1993, 2:48 pm
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development, comp.os.linux.misc
From: iii...@swan.pyr (Alan Cox)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 17:35:47 GMT
Local: Fri, Sep 24 1993 1:35 pm
Subject: Re: Net-2 Patches are GREAT (sometimes)
In article <CDuxG4....@swi.psy.uva.nl> j...@swi.psy.uva.nl (Jan Wielemaker) writes:
>jmorr...@rflab.ee.ubc.ca (John Paul Morrison) writes:
>>the newest pl13 source and followed the net2-debugged instructions. The
>>instructions tell you to move your inet directory, then unpack the new
>>code. No Makefile or CONFIG is included with net2-debugged, so I
>>assume you are supposed to copy the old ones (from inet.old!).

I forgot to mention this. The new release when it comes out will have
that corrected (and a few other oddments).
>Tried exactly the same.  I've got no network at home, but we're trying to
>get the network stuff going at the University.  Even using the loopback
>net, just `rlogin myself' followed by logout crashed the system without
>any message!?  At least that works on plain pl13.  Now I trust that the
>inet-D package is debugged, but how does one get it *properly* linked
>to the kernel?

Nope you've found a bug. It took me 4 machines and about 40 rlogin
attempts to duplicate it, but on some systems if you rlogin to localhost
and the rlogin immediately screws up (as the rlogind/rlogin client pair
of old tended too) you on odd occasion get a crash. This sort of thing
illustrates how hard network debugging is, and why the real all new
networking is taking so long. [Someone else asked how does NET2debugged
fit in with the new networking. The answer is every relevant bug fix
I've made has been fed back to the new networking people and most
accepted and added. In time Net2debugged will no longer be neccessary
and for once not being needed will make me happy!
>The first thing I want are *reliable* remote running X11 applications.

Try net2debugged on a real net. I don't release it until its had 3 days
on a real machine doing real work on a busy net (40K/second broadcast
packets + all the normal stuff). I've added local rlogin to my test
list for the future and started looking at it except for that it
does seem pretty much ok from reports so far apart from one other
extra printk that crept in (udp.c udp_rcv kill the printk about
Packet received for unknown socket). I've been using net2debugged
heavily for X and its been quite good - I even test mpeg_play to a remote
host as standard.
>The second thing I want is nfs.  NIS would be the greatest!

NFS has been solid (but none too quick) since 0.99.11 (I think) 0.99.10
certainly had a memory corrupting bug. Over slip you need to turn on
udp checksums and unless you have net2debugged set the slip mtu to about
1200 before not after you use dip to connect (goes for NET2E4 also)
>    Thanks --- Jan

Thanks for finding a bug. I know where most of this evening will be going
now 8-).

Alan

iii...@pyr.swan.ac.uk


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