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n.torre...@gmail.com

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Sep 5, 2008, 6:28:00 PM9/5/08
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My Dell Precision workstation came with RHEL 4.0 pre-installed, so I
expected 100% Linux compatibility, especially now that the machine is
2 years old.

However, after switching to Ubuntu 8.04.1, I developed a need to get
its audio working. The playback works, but the mic with the on-board
Intel audio is extremely noisy as to be unusable (I tried many
microphones with it, and in general wasted hours trying to get the
sound to work)

Anyways, I hope someone can recommend a sound card that will
definitely work 100% with Ubuntu 8.04.1, mic input included, of
course. The sound card has to be inexpensive and currently widely sold
in places like Fry's, or at least newegg or amazon.

Here's my `lspci`, if it's relevant (Btw, I'm also worried about
various IRQ incompatibilities with other hardware)


00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82955X Memory Controller Hub
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82955X PCI Express Root Port
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High
Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express
Port 1 (rev 01)
00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GR/GH/GHM (ICH7 Family) PCI
Express Port 5 (rev 01)
00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GR/GH/GHM (ICH7 Family) PCI
Express Port 6 (rev 01)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB
UHCI Controller #1 (rev 01)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB
UHCI Controller #2 (rev 01)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB
UHCI Controller #3 (rev 01)
00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB
UHCI Controller #4 (rev 01)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2
EHCI Controller (rev 01)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev e1)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GB/GR (ICH7 Family) LPC
Interface Bridge (rev 01)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE
Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801GR/GH (ICH7 Family)
SATA AHCI Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller
(rev 01)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV41 [Quadro FX
3450/4000 SDI] (rev a2)
04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5751
Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 01)
05:02.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Agere Systems FW323 (rev 61)

Michael Black

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Sep 5, 2008, 8:25:04 PM9/5/08
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On Fri, 5 Sep 2008, n.torre...@gmail.com wrote:

> My Dell Precision workstation came with RHEL 4.0 pre-installed, so I
> expected 100% Linux compatibility, especially now that the machine is
> 2 years old.
>
> However, after switching to Ubuntu 8.04.1, I developed a need to get
> its audio working. The playback works, but the mic with the on-board
> Intel audio is extremely noisy as to be unusable (I tried many
> microphones with it, and in general wasted hours trying to get the
> sound to work)
>

Did you do the obvious of running a mixer program to adjust the gain
on the microphone input? While you're there, you also want to set
the microphone input as the "record" device, since any recording
application won't know by itself what you want to record from.

Michael

graham1949

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Sep 6, 2008, 5:51:04 AM9/6/08
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Hi
I had an issue with my dell as linux did not have a driver for my
Sound blaster Audiligy card, bought a SBlive card on ebay for £1 and
all fine. Including mic
Cant remember the url, but there is a list of linux compatible
hardware on the net, try googlig it
Graham

Robert Riches

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Sep 6, 2008, 12:10:43 PM9/6/08
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On 2008-09-06, graham1949 <graha...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sep 5, 11:28 pm, n.torrey.pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>> My Dell Precision workstation came with RHEL 4.0 pre-installed, so I
>> expected 100% Linux compatibility, especially now that the machine is
>> 2 years old.
>>
>> However, after switching to Ubuntu 8.04.1, I developed a need to get
>> its audio working. The playback works, but the mic with the on-board
>> Intel audio is extremely noisy as to be unusable (I tried many
>> microphones with it, and in general wasted hours trying to get the
>> sound to work)
>>
>> ...

>
> Hi
> I had an issue with my dell as linux did not have a driver for my
> Sound blaster Audiligy card, bought a SBlive card on ebay for £1 and
> all fine. Including mic
> Cant remember the url, but there is a list of linux compatible
> hardware on the net, try googlig it
> Graham

In case the OP hasn't already dealt with it, there is
another thing to watch out for on some sound cards. Some
default to using the input jacks as outputs. To use them as
inputs, you need to disable their use as outputs. For cards
with such a (mis)feature, the mixer applications should have
a channel titled something like "line in as surround output"
or such. That/those channel(s) need to be muted to use the
inputs as inputs.

HTH

--
Robert Riches
spamt...@verizon.net
(Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)

Hactar

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Sep 6, 2008, 2:14:45 PM9/6/08
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In article <slrngc5as3....@one.localnet>,

Robert Riches <spamt...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On 2008-09-06, graham1949 <graha...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> > On Sep 5, 11:28 pm, n.torrey.pi...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> My Dell Precision workstation came with RHEL 4.0 pre-installed, so I
> >> expected 100% Linux compatibility, especially now that the machine is
> >> 2 years old.
> >>
> >> However, after switching to Ubuntu 8.04.1, I developed a need to get
> >> its audio working. The playback works, but the mic with the on-board
> >> Intel audio is extremely noisy as to be unusable (I tried many
> >> microphones with it, and in general wasted hours trying to get the
> >> sound to work)
> >
> > I had an issue with my dell as linux did not have a driver for my
> > Sound blaster Audiligy card, bought a SBlive card on ebay for £1 and
> > all fine. Including mic
> > Cant remember the url, but there is a list of linux compatible
> > hardware on the net, try googlig it
> > Graham
>
> In case the OP hasn't already dealt with it, there is
> another thing to watch out for on some sound cards. Some
> default to using the input jacks as outputs. To use them as
> inputs, you need to disable their use as outputs. For cards
> with such a (mis)feature, the mixer applications should have
> a channel titled something like "line in as surround output"
> or such. That/those channel(s) need to be muted to use the
> inputs as inputs.

That's one reason I used a separate sound card in preference to the
onboard sound on my motherboard. I prefer that my input and output
jacks not change from one to the other (hermaphroditic hardware).
That and I now have too many devices to be accomodated by the onboard
hardware, which only has three jacks.

--
-eben QebWe...@vTerYizUonI.nOetP royalty.mine.nu:81

An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of
being called an idea at all. -Oscar Wilde

n.torre...@gmail.com

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Sep 6, 2008, 3:42:49 PM9/6/08
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On Sep 6, 2:51 am, graham1949 <grahamch...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

> I had an issue with my dell as linux did not have a driver for my
> Sound blaster Audiligy card, bought a SBlive card on ebay for £1   and
> all fine. Including mic
> Cant remember the url, but there is a list of linux compatible
> hardware on the net, try googlig it
> Graham

I've heard that SB Live actually isn't fully supported by Linux, and
Audigy is better (but still may be a hit and miss)

So, not a single sound card that's guaranteed to work with Linux/
Ubuntu?

Dragomir Kollaric

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Sep 6, 2008, 4:09:16 PM9/6/08
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On 2008-09-06, n.torre...@gmail.com hit the keyboard and wrote:
> On Sep 6, 2:51 am, graham1949 <grahamch...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I had an issue with my dell as linux did not have a driver for my
>> Sound blaster Audiligy card, bought a SBlive card on ebay for £1   and
>> all fine. Including mic
>> Cant remember the url, but there is a list of linux compatible
>> hardware on the net, try googlig it
>> Graham
>
> I've heard that SB Live actually isn't fully supported by Linux, and
> Audigy is better (but still may be a hit and miss)

I've used a Soundblaster Live for years in various Gnu/Linux
including Debian. It is true hough around 2000/2001 one had
to tweak it by downloading some package and compile the
driver. tweak Alsa too.

But then the following Kernels (2.4.X onward) had the moduls
included.

You could try the *KNOPPIX-LIVE* CD and hear if its finds the
card...


>
> So, not a single sound card that's guaranteed to work with Linux/
> Ubuntu?

Dragomir Kollaric
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"When science discovers the center of the universe, a lot of
people will be disappointed to find they are not it."
>> Bernard Baily <<

n.torre...@gmail.com

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Sep 6, 2008, 4:36:03 PM9/6/08
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On Sep 6, 1:09 pm, Dragomir Kollaric <Drago...@DK.org.invalid> wrote:

> You could try the *KNOPPIX-LIVE* CD and hear if its finds the
> card...

I'm not looking for a distro that works with my hardware. I'm looking
for hardware that will definitely work with my distro.

Shadow_7

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Sep 6, 2008, 5:05:45 PM9/6/08
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> I've heard that SB Live actually isn't fully supported by Linux, and
> Audigy is better (but still may be a hit and miss)
>
> So, not a single sound card that's guaranteed to work with Linux/
> Ubuntu?

It depends on how you define work.

All of my soundcards work. Fully work, debatable. Those that aren't
fully duplex can only record OR play, but not AND. Well it can do both at
the same time, but it's NOT a full duplex soundcard, so there's about a 40%
bleed over of what's being played in the recorded track. But it has those
same results in windows or linux. Does that mean it's not supported in
either?

So what are you trying to do? And how are you trying to do it? I have an
M-Audio Delta 44 that is full duplex and supported. Although I've heard
that it has a 10 channel internal mixer. And with only 4 physical outputs
and 4 physical inputs, I don't see anything in alsamixer or amixer that
says anything other than what is represented by externally visible
hardware. Does that mean it's not supported? NO. As I do get four inputs
and four outputs. Although I've heard that the SB Live's have a 32 channel
internal mixer. Not that you'd ever use it unless playing video games,
listening to cds, watching tv, and watching a dvd at the same time on the
same machine was your thing. Or you were trying to do some recording
studio work. Not that you'd use that soundcard for that.

Mark Hobley

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Sep 6, 2008, 4:45:08 PM9/6/08
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In comp.os.linux.hardware n.torre...@gmail.com wrote:

> So, not a single sound card that's guaranteed to work with Linux/
> Ubuntu?

The ESS Solo works with Ubuntu.

Regards,

Mark.

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393 Quinton Road West,
Quinton, BIRMINGHAM.
B32 1QE.

Llanzlan Klazmon

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Sep 8, 2008, 12:09:19 AM9/8/08
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n.torrey.pi...@gmail.com wrote:


Do you have all the updates installed? Seems that there were quite a
lot of issues with sound devices with 8.04. You may want to check the
Ubuntu forums

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